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(The Atlantic Wire)   Three guys decide to improve on Obamacare and make their own amazing Health Care Website in their garage. Bonus: Did not cost hundreds of millions of dollars and it works   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 122
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2013-11-04 09:42:31 AM
Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.
 
2013-11-04 09:44:42 AM

Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.


And tie into a few hundred different options from companies that offer different plans from each state that didn't make their own exchange.
 
2013-11-04 09:50:34 AM
yeah, sure they did.
 
2013-11-04 09:52:21 AM

enry: Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.

And tie into a few hundred different options from companies that offer different plans from each state that didn't make their own exchange.


and offer complete security and encryption for all the records they collect.
 
2013-11-04 09:55:30 AM

ManateeGag: enry: Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.

And tie into a few hundred different options from companies that offer different plans from each state that didn't make their own exchange.

and offer complete security and encryption for all the records they collect.


And comply with the vagaries of insurance laws in the 34 different states that need to be supported.
 
2013-11-04 10:03:02 AM

Marcus Aurelius: ManateeGag: enry: Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.

And tie into a few hundred different options from companies that offer different plans from each state that didn't make their own exchange.

and offer complete security and encryption for all the records they collect.

And comply with the vagaries of insurance laws in the 34 different states that need to be supported.


And complies with accessibility issues under the ADA.
 
2013-11-04 10:13:06 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Marcus Aurelius: ManateeGag: enry: Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.

And tie into a few hundred different options from companies that offer different plans from each state that didn't make their own exchange.

and offer complete security and encryption for all the records they collect.

And comply with the vagaries of insurance laws in the 34 different states that need to be supported.

And complies with accessibility issues under the ADA.


And it should autoplay the fight music from Final Fantasy when you go to the website.
 
2013-11-04 10:20:07 AM

Shostie: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Marcus Aurelius: ManateeGag: enry: Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.

And tie into a few hundred different options from companies that offer different plans from each state that didn't make their own exchange.

and offer complete security and encryption for all the records they collect.

And comply with the vagaries of insurance laws in the 34 different states that need to be supported.

And complies with accessibility issues under the ADA.

And it should autoplay the fight music from Final Fantasy when you go to the website.


as long as it plays the victory fan fare when you finally get coverage.
 
2013-11-04 10:29:54 AM

ManateeGag: Shostie: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Marcus Aurelius: ManateeGag: enry: Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.

And tie into a few hundred different options from companies that offer different plans from each state that didn't make their own exchange.

and offer complete security and encryption for all the records they collect.

And comply with the vagaries of insurance laws in the 34 different states that need to be supported.

And complies with accessibility issues under the ADA.

And it should autoplay the fight music from Final Fantasy when you go to the website.

as long as it plays the victory fan fare when you finally get coverage.


No, it's the "get item" music from Zelda.
 
2013-11-04 10:34:17 AM
Absolutely subby, except for the fact you can't view any subsidy information or actually sign up for the plans.

/so basically its just like the current site
//dadum tish
 
2013-11-04 10:36:17 AM
Actually most of you are wrong. You can't buy insurance at this site that I saw, you can get plans/prices for your area but when you click 'how to buy' they direct you to the insurance carrier directly, tell you what number to call and what plan to ask for. They collect no data other than your zip code.
 
2013-11-04 10:45:47 AM
They're just ripping the data from Healthcare.gov and putting some radio buttons on the side.

Just click this button on the homepage:

i.imgur.com

Enter your age and zip on a couple screens, and you get this:

i.imgur.com

/well a version of this anyways
 
2013-11-04 10:52:56 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: /well a version of this anyways


So...they created a skin...
 
2013-11-04 11:00:53 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: /well a version of this anyways

So...they created a skin...


That actually works, it seems. Sounds like they took the K.I.S.S. approach that the 'real' ACA website team should have taken...
 
2013-11-04 11:02:24 AM
You see what you can accomplish when you don't have too many cooks in the kitchen?  Now just cover all the bases discussed in previous comments... victory themes included... and you'll be a political hero.
 
2013-11-04 11:07:46 AM

cameroncrazy1984: ManateeGag: Shostie: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Marcus Aurelius: ManateeGag: enry: Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.

And tie into a few hundred different options from companies that offer different plans from each state that didn't make their own exchange.

and offer complete security and encryption for all the records they collect.

And comply with the vagaries of insurance laws in the 34 different states that need to be supported.

And complies with accessibility issues under the ADA.

And it should autoplay the fight music from Final Fantasy when you go to the website.

as long as it plays the victory fan fare when you finally get coverage.

No, it's the "get item" music from Zelda.


Needs moar dancing baby GIF.
 
2013-11-04 11:08:51 AM

Ashyukun: cameroncrazy1984: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: /well a version of this anyways

So...they created a skin...

That actually works, it seems. Sounds like they took the K.I.S.S. approach that the 'real' ACA website team should have taken...


It's pretty much the exact same website except that you can't click on a plan on Healthcare.gov and get a phone number. It's not like the website's front end is needlessly complicated either. It's all of the database, account, and back end stuff where things break down in a mess of shoddy work and legal compliance across a hundred various regulations.
 
2013-11-04 11:21:13 AM
If you go to the "real" site, after a potential plan comes up, can you actually read the plan you are about to buy?  The basics are covered here (deductible, co-pay, etc.), but what about things like cost of out-of-network providers, appeal rights, etc. that come in an actual plan?  Do you ever get to read that before buying?
 
2013-11-04 11:25:53 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: If you go to the "real" site, after a potential plan comes up, can you actually read the plan you are about to buy?  The basics are covered here (deductible, co-pay, etc.), but what about things like cost of out-of-network providers, appeal rights, etc. that come in an actual plan?  Do you ever get to read that before buying?


Not on the "see plans in your area" side of the site. I assume you can (if it works) if you've made an account and are doing it legitimately, but I'm not going to sign up since I already have insurance, don't really expect it to work all that well, and don't want to put additional load on the system since other people have more valid reasons to be on there than my curiosity.
 
2013-11-04 11:39:03 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Three Crooked Squirrels: If you go to the "real" site, after a potential plan comes up, can you actually read the plan you are about to buy?  The basics are covered here (deductible, co-pay, etc.), but what about things like cost of out-of-network providers, appeal rights, etc. that come in an actual plan?  Do you ever get to read that before buying?

Not on the "see plans in your area" side of the site. I assume you can (if it works) if you've made an account and are doing it legitimately, but I'm not going to sign up since I already have insurance, don't really expect it to work all that well, and don't want to put additional load on the system since other people have more valid reasons to be on there than my curiosity.


Like the KochBros' DOS bots that need to submit millions of inquiries every minute.
 
2013-11-04 11:51:36 AM

MrBallou: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Three Crooked Squirrels: If you go to the "real" site, after a potential plan comes up, can you actually read the plan you are about to buy?  The basics are covered here (deductible, co-pay, etc.), but what about things like cost of out-of-network providers, appeal rights, etc. that come in an actual plan?  Do you ever get to read that before buying?

Not on the "see plans in your area" side of the site. I assume you can (if it works) if you've made an account and are doing it legitimately, but I'm not going to sign up since I already have insurance, don't really expect it to work all that well, and don't want to put additional load on the system since other people have more valid reasons to be on there than my curiosity.

Like the KochBros' DOS bots that need to submit millions of inquiries every minute.


Is "Koch Brothers DoS" the new talking point?

Because it's just..... sad. Really, really sad.
 
2013-11-04 12:11:06 PM

MrBallou: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Three Crooked Squirrels: If you go to the "real" site, after a potential plan comes up, can you actually read the plan you are about to buy?  The basics are covered here (deductible, co-pay, etc.), but what about things like cost of out-of-network providers, appeal rights, etc. that come in an actual plan?  Do you ever get to read that before buying?

Not on the "see plans in your area" side of the site. I assume you can (if it works) if you've made an account and are doing it legitimately, but I'm not going to sign up since I already have insurance, don't really expect it to work all that well, and don't want to put additional load on the system since other people have more valid reasons to be on there than my curiosity.

Like the KochBros' DOS bots that need to submit millions of inquiries every minute.


Yeah, I am sure that is what really happened.

itsaconspiracy.jpg
 
2013-11-04 12:11:35 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.


If they built it right, it should scale....

Point is that a much smaller team could have built the site right for a lot less money.
 
2013-11-04 12:12:21 PM
IIRC, the technical issues have never been with the actual software running the site, but instead with a number of backend technologies with which it must integrate. Getting up a Website is easy as long as you don't have to deal with those, but when you have to compensate for inadequacies in backend software that you don't control, that gets a lot more difficult.
 
2013-11-04 12:13:57 PM

Millennium: IIRC, the technical issues have never been with the actual software running the site, but instead with a number of backend technologies with which it must integrate. Getting up a Website is easy as long as you don't have to deal with those, but when you have to compensate for inadequacies in backend software that you don't control, that gets a lot more difficult.


And it never helps when the entire plan was devised by backends in the first place.
 
2013-11-04 12:14:00 PM
in other news, 3 more guys who think they're web developers find out they don't know shiat.
 
2013-11-04 12:14:04 PM
www.theatlanticwire.com
What an amazing feat.  3 guys built a website that lets you click a few buttons and then tells you to call an operator and order it on the phone.  How did they do it?!?!
 
2013-11-04 12:15:10 PM

slayer199: Point is that a much smaller team could have built the site right for a lot less money.


instead of 1/50th the cost of the republican shutdown it could have cost 1/100th, fiscal responsibles!
 
2013-11-04 12:15:21 PM
www.email-marketing-blog-expertsender.com
 
2013-11-04 12:15:44 PM
GeoCities.
 
2013-11-04 12:16:48 PM

slayer199: Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.

If they built it right, it should scale....

Point is that a much smaller team could have built the site right for a lot less money.


But then, if they did that who's gonna pay off all the Obungo cronies?
 
2013-11-04 12:18:19 PM
Laugh all you want. Three Guys Healthcare and Fries saves lives!

/and is delicious.
 
2013-11-04 12:19:03 PM
hmmm the website doesn't work because they don't have my state's exchange information yet I was able to get into my state's exchange system about 4 days after launch.

Something tells me this article is lacking facts.
 
2013-11-04 12:19:21 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.


Woah. Start slowly. Anything over 200 is an improvement.
 
2013-11-04 12:20:10 PM

slayer199: Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.

If they built it right, it should scale....

Point is that a much smaller team could have built the site right for a lot less money.


They COULD have, but we have a bid process on government contracts.
 
2013-11-04 12:22:37 PM
I actually feel kind of sorry for the company that put that Gov't site up.  They must have had some idea what they were getting in to.  But somehow or other, they ended up having to explain themselves directly to Congress when the site couldn't handle the traffic.  As if anyone in Congress has the slightest idea how something like that works to start with.

They were not given adequate time for testing.  They were rushed with last minute changes.
I hope, for their sake, that people are gerally patient and wait for the rush to die down.  I'm sure the site will work much better when there aren't a gazillion DB hits every second.
 
2013-11-04 12:22:46 PM
Your blog sucks.
 
2013-11-04 12:24:37 PM
So three racists built racism.org in their racist garage.
 
2013-11-04 12:25:04 PM
Anything is better than 0bummersdeathpanelselector.gov:

s12.postimg.org
 
2013-11-04 12:26:44 PM
Sure, it's just that easy.
 
2013-11-04 12:26:53 PM
This is news... for Obama.

//good news or bad news? You decide.
 
2013-11-04 12:27:11 PM
I decided to improve on GTA Online by playing GTA V in single player mode and pretending that the people I was shooting were other players.
 
2013-11-04 12:27:41 PM

durbnpoisn: I actually feel kind of sorry for the company that put that Gov't site up.  They must have had some idea what they were getting in to.  But somehow or other, they ended up having to explain themselves directly to Congress when the site couldn't handle the traffic.  As if anyone in Congress has the slightest idea how something like that works to start with.

They were not given adequate time for testing.  They were rushed with last minute changes.
I hope, for their sake, that people are gerally patient and wait for the rush to die down.  I'm sure the site will work much better when there aren't a gazillion DB hits every second.


That's not really the point is it?. They should've been ready for at least two years and now......?

/grabs ass and holds on.
 
2013-11-04 12:28:01 PM
Are we still pretending the healthcare.gov site cost 600 million?
 
2013-11-04 12:28:14 PM

durbnpoisn: I actually feel kind of sorry for the company that put that Gov't site up.


The only have their giant novelty checks to comfort them.
www.capecodtoday.com
Artist's depiction.
 
2013-11-04 12:29:20 PM
img.fark.net
 
2013-11-04 12:30:30 PM
I signed up for health care at Zombo.com
 
2013-11-04 12:31:16 PM
This is a problem with how our government contract system works. Small companies with employees that can build an app in a week, or a website in a day, generally don't have the clout or know-how to navigate the government contract maze. So we're left with big companies who can actually get the contract, but may not necessarily be better at doing the job.
 
2013-11-04 12:31:33 PM

mediablitz: Are we still pretending the healthcare.gov site cost 600 million?


What number should we use to make you feel better?

Because that's what's important here.
 
2013-11-04 12:31:39 PM

mike_d85: slayer199: Gecko Gingrich: Great, now just a have a few million people log onto it at the same time and we'll be good to go.

If they built it right, it should scale....

Point is that a much smaller team could have built the site right for a lot less money.

They COULD have, but we have a bid process on government contracts.


From the articles I've read, the government basically bypassed the entire contract process and just tacked the entire project onto a previous contract with their current IT contractor.  The couple articles I looked at basically said Silicon Valley had a few startups already working on systems to do exactly what the government was looking to do, but politics got in the way.
 
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