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2013-11-04 01:03:09 AM
The appeals court dismissed a pending indictment against John Christopher Lo, of Harris County. He was charged with a third-degree felony for communicating in a sexually explicit manner with a person he believed to be a minor with an intent to arouse or gratify his sexual desire.

Okay... So freedom of speech I understand, but uh.. this guy was caught verbally jacking off to a kid, and YOU LET HIM GO?!!?!?!

Texas, you're trying to become the new Florida, right?
 
2013-11-04 08:28:04 AM

strangeluck: The appeals court dismissed a pending indictment against John Christopher Lo, of Harris County. He was charged with a third-degree felony for communicating in a sexually explicit manner with a person he believed to be a minor with an intent to arouse or gratify his sexual desire.

Okay... So freedom of speech I understand, but uh.. this guy was caught verbally jacking off to a kid, and YOU LET HIM GO?!!?!?!

Texas, you're trying to become the new Florida, right?


Technically he was jacking it to an adult.  Which if he had been online for more than a day, he should have known.  Maybe he did know but didn't want to break the fantasy.
 
2013-11-04 08:56:37 AM
The judge added: "Subsection (b) covers a whole cornucopia of 'titillating talk' or 'dirty talk.' But it also includes sexually explicit literature such as 'Lolita,' '50 Shades of Grey,' 'Lady Chatterley's Lover,' and Shakespeare's 'Troilus and Cressida.' It includes sexually explicit television shows, movies, and performances such as 'The Tudors,' 'Rome,' 'Eyes Wide Shut,' 'Basic Instinct,' Janet Jackson's 'Wardrobe Malfunction' during the 2004 Super Bowl, and Miley Cyrus' 'twerking' during this year's MTV Video Music Awards. It includes sexually explicit art such as 'The Rape of the Sabine Women,' 'Venus De Milo,' 'the Naked Maja' or Japanese Shunga."


Just when I think a day might go by that I don't read a reference to Miley Cyrus and twerking.
 
2013-11-04 09:08:51 AM
soooo...asl?
 
2013-11-04 09:22:15 AM
"That's just bad, children, Mmkay?"
 
2013-11-04 09:27:19 AM

miss diminutive: soooo...asl?


13/f/wherever you want me

/amidoingitright?
 
2013-11-04 09:37:17 AM

SurfaceTension: miss diminutive: soooo...asl?

13/f/wherever you want me

/amidoingitright?


Are you a cop? You have to tell me if I ask.
 
2013-11-04 09:38:33 AM

miss diminutive: soooo...asl?


Are you wearing a robe, and wizard hat?
 
2013-11-04 09:39:51 AM

SurfaceTension: miss diminutive: soooo...asl?

13/f/wherever you want me

/amidoingitright?


Close. 13 year olds don't have the time to type out 'you'. You want = uwant.
 
2013-11-04 09:41:03 AM
AOL chatrooms FTW.
 
2013-11-04 09:41:59 AM

Sybarite: The judge added: "Subsection (b) covers a whole cornucopia of 'titillating talk' or 'dirty talk.' But it also includes sexually explicit literature such as 'Lolita,' '50 Shades of Grey,' 'Lady Chatterley's Lover,' and Shakespeare's 'Troilus and Cressida.' It includes sexually explicit television shows, movies, and performances such as 'The Tudors,' 'Rome,' 'Eyes Wide Shut,' 'Basic Instinct,' Janet Jackson's 'Wardrobe Malfunction' during the 2004 Super Bowl, and Miley Cyrus' 'twerking' during this year's MTV Video Music Awards. It includes sexually explicit art such as 'The Rape of the Sabine Women,' 'Venus De Milo,' 'the Naked Maja' or Japanese Shunga."


Just when I think a day might go by that I don't read a reference to Miley Cyrus and twerking.


WTF..............................
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-11-04 09:42:15 AM
wordspy.com

LIEburil, activist judges!!
 
2013-11-04 09:43:18 AM
Cuccinelli seen asking the Supreme Court to let him have a law in VA that bars sexually explicit speech by ANYONE so that he can protect children.
 
2013-11-04 09:45:07 AM

Leader O'Cola: Sybarite: The judge added: "Subsection (b) covers a whole cornucopia of 'titillating talk' or 'dirty talk.' But it also includes sexually explicit literature such as 'Lolita,' '50 Shades of Grey,' 'Lady Chatterley's Lover,' and Shakespeare's 'Troilus and Cressida.' It includes sexually explicit television shows, movies, and performances such as 'The Tudors,' 'Rome,' 'Eyes Wide Shut,' 'Basic Instinct,' Janet Jackson's 'Wardrobe Malfunction' during the 2004 Super Bowl, and Miley Cyrus' 'twerking' during this year's MTV Video Music Awards. It includes sexually explicit art such as 'The Rape of the Sabine Women,' 'Venus De Milo,' 'the Naked Maja' or Japanese Shunga."


Just when I think a day might go by that I don't read a reference to Miley Cyrus and twerking.

WTF..............................


Same reason the Janet Jackson nipple-slip is counted. Letting a child see a boob is JUST AS BAD as letting them watch hard-core porn. And it's WORSE than letting them see graphic violence!
 
2013-11-04 09:45:54 AM

Leader O'Cola: Sybarite: The judge added: "Subsection (b) covers a whole cornucopia of 'titillating talk' or 'dirty talk.' But it also includes sexually explicit literature such as 'Lolita,' '50 Shades of Grey,' 'Lady Chatterley's Lover,' and Shakespeare's 'Troilus and Cressida.' It includes sexually explicit television shows, movies, and performances such as 'The Tudors,' 'Rome,' 'Eyes Wide Shut,' 'Basic Instinct,' Janet Jackson's 'Wardrobe Malfunction' during the 2004 Super Bowl, and Miley Cyrus' 'twerking' during this year's MTV Video Music Awards. It includes sexually explicit art such as 'The Rape of the Sabine Women,' 'Venus De Milo,' 'the Naked Maja' or Japanese Shunga."


Just when I think a day might go by that I don't read a reference to Miley Cyrus and twerking.

WTF..............................


C'mon, statues with missing arms is teh sexay.
 
2013-11-04 09:46:22 AM
Now you can go back to cussing out that eight year old who keeps whupping your ass at that war game you like so much.

Filthy little ****. If you get your hands on her, you'll cram her iPad where the Sun don't go. But there's no real danger of that because she's in South Korea.
 
2013-11-04 09:47:04 AM

strangeluck: The appeals court dismissed a pending indictment against John Christopher Lo, of Harris County. He was charged with a third-degree felony for communicating in a sexually explicit manner with a person he believed to be a minor with an intent to arouse or gratify his sexual desire.

Okay... So freedom of speech I understand, but uh.. this guy was caught verbally jacking off to a kid, and YOU LET HIM GO?!!?!?!

Texas, you're trying to become the new Florida, right?


As disgusting as most people find that, and even though it involves another person...at that point, it's still a victimless crime.  And it borders the line on thoughtcrime with the "he believed to be" language.
 
2013-11-04 09:50:22 AM

brantgoose: Now you can go back to cussing out that eight year old who keeps whupping your ass at that war game you like so much.

Filthy little ****. If you get your hands on her, you'll cram her iPad where the Sun don't go. But there's no real danger of that because she's in South Korea.


csb: I quit starcraft after losing to a kid who had been alive fewer years than I'd been playing.
 
2013-11-04 09:51:13 AM

IlGreven: strangeluck: The appeals court dismissed a pending indictment against John Christopher Lo, of Harris County. He was charged with a third-degree felony for communicating in a sexually explicit manner with a person he believed to be a minor with an intent to arouse or gratify his sexual desire.

Okay... So freedom of speech I understand, but uh.. this guy was caught verbally jacking off to a kid, and YOU LET HIM GO?!!?!?!

Texas, you're trying to become the new Florida, right?

As disgusting as most people find that, and even though it involves another person...at that point, it's still a victimless crime.  And it borders the line on thoughtcrime with the "he believed to be" language.


It also borders on the why the hell are we policing this?  Underage kids seeing inappropriate things on the internet.  We can either allow parents to regulate their kid's access to the internet, or we can have the police attempt to regulate the entire farking internet.
 
2013-11-04 09:52:33 AM

blatz514: Leader O'Cola: Sybarite: The judge added: "Subsection (b) covers a whole cornucopia of 'titillating talk' or 'dirty talk.' But it also includes sexually explicit literature such as 'Lolita,' '50 Shades of Grey,' 'Lady Chatterley's Lover,' and Shakespeare's 'Troilus and Cressida.' It includes sexually explicit television shows, movies, and performances such as 'The Tudors,' 'Rome,' 'Eyes Wide Shut,' 'Basic Instinct,' Janet Jackson's 'Wardrobe Malfunction' during the 2004 Super Bowl, and Miley Cyrus' 'twerking' during this year's MTV Video Music Awards. It includes sexually explicit art such as 'The Rape of the Sabine Women,' 'Venus De Milo,' 'the Naked Maja' or Japanese Shunga."


Just when I think a day might go by that I don't read a reference to Miley Cyrus and twerking.

WTF..............................

C'mon, statues with missing arms is teh sexay.


Come now, the fact you are on Fark means you must be familiar enough with the internet to know there's a fetish for everything, including amputees.
 
2013-11-04 09:53:15 AM

LordJiro: Same reason the Janet Jackson nipple-slip is counted. Letting a child see a boob is JUST AS BAD as letting them watch hard-core porn. And it's WORSE than letting them see graphic violence!


smh, this country is fubar'd.
 
2013-11-04 09:54:36 AM
A harassment law already on the books bans and punishes obscene electronic communications, anyway, according to the ruling. Appellate attorney Mark Bennett, of Houston, applauded the ruling. Bennett told the Houston Chronicle that parents, not government, should police who their children talk to and what is said. "Parents have the job of dealing with this. This is not the government's job," Bennett told the newspaper
 
2013-11-04 09:54:47 AM

Leader O'Cola: LordJiro: Same reason the Janet Jackson nipple-slip is counted. Letting a child see a boob is JUST AS BAD as letting them watch hard-core porn. And it's WORSE than letting them see graphic violence!

smh, this country is fubar'd.


They train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write 'fark' on their airplanes because it is obscene.
 
2013-11-04 09:55:03 AM

Ned Stark: I quit starcraft after losing to a kid who had been alive fewer years than I'd been playing.


You merely adopted the game while he was born into it.
 
2013-11-04 10:00:17 AM

jxb465: blatz514: Leader O'Cola: Sybarite: The judge added: "Subsection (b) covers a whole cornucopia of 'titillating talk' or 'dirty talk.' But it also includes sexually explicit literature such as 'Lolita,' '50 Shades of Grey,' 'Lady Chatterley's Lover,' and Shakespeare's 'Troilus and Cressida.' It includes sexually explicit television shows, movies, and performances such as 'The Tudors,' 'Rome,' 'Eyes Wide Shut,' 'Basic Instinct,' Janet Jackson's 'Wardrobe Malfunction' during the 2004 Super Bowl, and Miley Cyrus' 'twerking' during this year's MTV Video Music Awards. It includes sexually explicit art such as 'The Rape of the Sabine Women,' 'Venus De Milo,' 'the Naked Maja' or Japanese Shunga."


Just when I think a day might go by that I don't read a reference to Miley Cyrus and twerking.

WTF..............................

C'mon, statues with missing arms is teh sexay.

Come now, the fact you are on Fark means you must be familiar enough with the internet to know there's a fetish for everything, including amputees.


Soooo true..

dump.gayadesign.nl
 
2013-11-04 10:03:04 AM

blatz514: Leader O'Cola: Sybarite: The judge added: "Subsection (b) covers a whole cornucopia of 'titillating talk' or 'dirty talk.' But it also includes sexually explicit literature such as 'Lolita,' '50 Shades of Grey,' 'Lady Chatterley's Lover,' and Shakespeare's 'Troilus and Cressida.' It includes sexually explicit television shows, movies, and performances such as 'The Tudors,' 'Rome,' 'Eyes Wide Shut,' 'Basic Instinct,' Janet Jackson's 'Wardrobe Malfunction' during the 2004 Super Bowl, and Miley Cyrus' 'twerking' during this year's MTV Video Music Awards. It includes sexually explicit art such as 'The Rape of the Sabine Women,' 'Venus De Milo,' 'the Naked Maja' or Japanese Shunga."


Just when I think a day might go by that I don't read a reference to Miley Cyrus and twerking.

WTF..............................

C'mon, statues with missing arms is teh sexay.


I wish someone would cut Miley Cyrus's arms off.

... and her head.
 
2013-11-04 10:04:04 AM

Sybarite: The judge added: "Subsection (b) covers a whole cornucopia of 'titillating talk' or 'dirty talk.' But it also includes sexually explicit literature such as 'Lolita,' '50 Shades of Grey,' 'Lady Chatterley's Lover,' and Shakespeare's 'Troilus and Cressida.' It includes sexually explicit television shows, movies, and performances such as 'The Tudors,' 'Rome,' 'Eyes Wide Shut,' 'Basic Instinct,' Janet Jackson's 'Wardrobe Malfunction' during the 2004 Super Bowl, and Miley Cyrus' 'twerking' during this year's MTV Video Music Awards. It includes sexually explicit art such as 'The Rape of the Sabine Women,' 'Venus De Milo,' 'the Naked Maja' or Japanese Shunga."


Just when I think a day might go by that I don't read a reference to Miley Cyrus and twerking.


Shakespeare must have shuddered being in that same category as Cyrus.
 
2013-11-04 10:04:25 AM

Leader O'Cola: LordJiro: Same reason the Janet Jackson nipple-slip is counted. Letting a child see a boob is JUST AS BAD as letting them watch hard-core porn. And it's WORSE than letting them see graphic violence!

smh, this country is fubar'd.


I've always thought something is wrong with a person being charged with doing or saying something to someone they thought was a kid, but was actually a cop.  Where's the victim here?
 
2013-11-04 10:05:47 AM

miss diminutive: SurfaceTension: miss diminutive: soooo...asl?

13/f/wherever you want me

/amidoingitright?

Close. 13 year olds don't have the time to type out 'you'. You want = uwant.


Wow, man, I didn't realize being a 13yo on the internet would be so demanding.
 
2013-11-04 10:06:17 AM
The judge is almost certainly right about that clause of the law being poorly written. She is very probably right about this as well:

"A man's thoughts are his own; he may sit in his armchair and think salacious thoughts, murderous thoughts, discriminatory thoughts, whatever thoughts he chooses, free from the 'thought police," she wrote.
     "It is only when the man gets out of his armchair and acts upon his thoughts that the law may intervene," Cochran added
.

This is, in fact, one of the major premises of the law. It does not and can not control people's minds. It can only address their actions. If you charge the police with controlling people's thoughts, they become thought police, ipso facto, and thus the people cease to be free.

Philip K. Dick's novel Minority Report shows how it is possible to frame somebody for a crime even if you have multiple psychics reading minds. A crime which they did not commit because it is in the future, and which they will not commit because one of the pre-cognitive spies is lying.

In the real world, mind-reading and prediction technology is nowhere near that level of precision, and the whole legal system is based on actions, not thoughts. This is wise since lawyers and judges and cops make suppositions all of the time. They are telling stories, some of which might be true but which are based on scant evidence in many cases and which are prone to all of the bias that human minds routinely generate. Seeing as there are over 100 enumerated forms of bias, it is not difficult to conclude that even with the best of wills and intentions, the witnesses, the police, the lawyers, the judges and the juries get it wrong a lot of the time.

In Texas, of course, you are guilty if accused and nobody cares if the accusation is false (well, liberals and honest conservatives care, but they are in the minority). Furthermore, nobody cares if you are not guilty of any of the accusations if you are deemed likely to be guilty of something.

It's the mentality of the witch hunt applied with racism, bigotry, and prejudices of every kind. But then, so were the witch hunts. Do you know why witches are depected wearing pointy hats? Those were the national hat of Wales and the Welsh in the 17th century. Most of the witches accused in certain parts of England were Welsh Catholics. We are talking ethnic cleansing worthy of the Twentieth Century. It's as if you depicted witches wearing Scotch bonnets or Irish green. It is exactly the same.
 
2013-11-04 10:11:22 AM

LordJiro: Letting a child see a boob is JUST AS BAD as letting them watch hard-core porn.


...so breastfeeding is/should be illegal?  Because if they're suckling from one, they're probably going to see it.
 
2013-11-04 10:13:03 AM

brantgoose: The judge is almost certainly right about that clause of the law being poorly written. She is very probably right about this as well:

"A man's thoughts are his own; he may sit in his armchair and think salacious thoughts, murderous thoughts, discriminatory thoughts, whatever thoughts he chooses, free from the 'thought police," she wrote.
     "It is only when the man gets out of his armchair and acts upon his thoughts that the law may intervene," Cochran added.

This is, in fact, one of the major premises of the law. It does not and can not control people's minds. It can only address their actions. If you charge the police with controlling people's thoughts, they become thought police, ipso facto, and thus the people cease to be free.

Philip K. Dick's novel Minority Report shows how it is possible to frame somebody for a crime even if you have multiple psychics reading minds. A crime which they did not commit because it is in the future, and which they will not commit because one of the pre-cognitive spies is lying.

In the real world, mind-reading and prediction technology is nowhere near that level of precision, and the whole legal system is based on actions, not thoughts. This is wise since lawyers and judges and cops make suppositions all of the time. They are telling stories, some of which might be true but which are based on scant evidence in many cases and which are prone to all of the bias that human minds routinely generate. Seeing as there are over 100 enumerated forms of bias, it is not difficult to conclude that even with the best of wills and intentions, the witnesses, the police, the lawyers, the judges and the juries get it wrong a lot of the time.

In Texas, of course, you are guilty if accused and nobody cares if the accusation is false (well, liberals and honest conservatives care, but they are in the minority). Furthermore, nobody cares if you are not guilty of any of the accusations if you are deemed likely to be guilty of something.

It's the mentality of the witch hunt applied with racism, bigotry, and prejudices of every kind. But then, so were the witch hunts. Do you know why witches are depected wearing pointy hats? Those were the national hat of Wales and the Welsh in the 17th century. Most of the witches accused in certain parts of England were Welsh Catholics. We are talking ethnic cleansing worthy of the Twentieth Century. It's as if you depicted witches wearing Scotch bonnets or Irish green. It is exactly the same.


In Texas? 90% of criminal cases in the US go to plea bargain instead of a jury. Accusation is conviction everywhere.
 
2013-11-04 10:14:09 AM

brantgoose: Seeing as there are over 100 enumerated forms of bias,


I'm not disagreeing with your post, to be clear, but what are these 100 enumerated forms of bias?
 
2013-11-04 10:20:08 AM

Ned Stark: csb: I quit starcraft after losing to a kid who had been alive fewer years than I'd been playing.


Rage quit on a Zerg rush? I'm sure you'd not be the first, or last to do so.
 
2013-11-04 10:22:32 AM

strangeluck: The appeals court dismissed a pending indictment against John Christopher Lo, of Harris County. He was charged with a third-degree felony for communicating in a sexually explicit manner with a person he believed to be a minor with an intent to arouse or gratify his sexual desire.

Okay... So freedom of speech I understand, but uh.. this guy was caught verbally jacking off to a kid, and YOU LET HIM GO?!!?!?!


No one supports pedophilia, but this "FOR DAH CHIWLDWENNNNNNNNNNNN!" mentality leads to nothing but totalitarianism and ruined lives.
 
2013-11-04 10:23:04 AM
It is my suspicion that the vast majority of pedophiles do not act on their inclinations. Some of them are surely using pornography and fantasy (including online chat) to satisfy their cravings and that works for them, at least for many years.

How many of these would be driven to action if they are denied fantasy?

How many are driven to action by agents provocateurs, online or offline?

Like the people accused on the basis of pre-cog evidence in Phat Dick's SF dystopia, these people are presumably endowed with the free will claimed by many of the rest of us, and can choose to act or not to act. They are aware that harming a child is wrong. Some don't care, some do.

The article says that it is the responsibility of parents, not the police state, to protect children. It says that what people do in their heads (which can, you know full will, be pretty different from their practices in "the real world"). But I suspect that even pornography, provided it is virtual and not based on the exploitation or degradation of children, shouldn't be suppressed because it is doing some good as a bulwark against the urges of the consumer.

Of course, there is some evidence that humans can resist everything except temptation. I personally do not believe in will power. I believe in won't power. There are mechanisms and techniques and tricks we use to not do things, there is no motive force that innately endows us with the magical power to do or not do things. This magical thing called "will".

Sorry, Nietzsche, there is no will to power. There is only inhibition. Where there is no inhibition you do not have will or virtue, you have psychopathy.

It would be better to treat pedophiles than to imprison them provided they have not acted on their inclinations. Prison can't last forever and the pedophile is the lowest caste in the prison hierarchy, so rather than penitence and reform, the pedophile is likely to be exposed to torture, violence and heinous murder at the hands of men who can not control their violent inclinations any more than the weakest pedophiles can control their urges.

My thinking on such matters is influence by philosophers such as the Duke of Larochefoucauld, whose cynicism is of an unusually thoughtful and philosophic kind. Nietzsche has glimmers of the same skepticism but he was mad and the question is when did he go mad. The point is moot. It is also not clear where the madness ends and the genius begins and vice versa. Some of his ideas were a mixture of both brilliant insight and madness or at least prejudices.

I am more French (and pragmatic Anglo-American) in my ethics than most people. I also admire Adam Smith, David Hume, and sometimes Schopenhauer and Nietzsche. There is much to be said for at least some of the ideas of Freud and Marx, although it is hard to work out which of these ideas are erroneous and which are brilliant or correct.

The law traditionally draws its line in the sand at action. This is, I believe, right and good. We can only speculate and confabulate about motives, thoughts, and even sanity. We just don't know what sanity looks like because we have never seen the critter in pure form.
 
2013-11-04 10:27:14 AM

strangeluck: The appeals court dismissed a pending indictment against John Christopher Lo, of Harris County. He was charged with a third-degree felony for communicating in a sexually explicit manner with a person he believed to be a minor with an intent to arouse or gratify his sexual desire.

Okay... So freedom of speech I understand, but uh.. this guy was caught verbally jacking off to a kid, and YOU LET HIM GO?!!?!?!

Texas, you're trying to become the new Florida, right?


OK, Texas you don't have the most stupid population in the union (to date) but you do have some of the most farking stupid laws evar!
 
2013-11-04 10:28:28 AM
mattharvest: brantgoose: Seeing as there are over 100 enumerated forms of bias,

I'm not disagreeing with your post, to be clear, but what are these 100 enumerated forms of bias?

Wow. That's like two Paul Simon songs full of enumerated bias.
 
2013-11-04 10:29:29 AM
Well... MineCraft just got a lot more interesting...
 
2013-11-04 10:31:39 AM
why the fail tag, sounds like a well thought out ruling in favor of free speech.

they didn't overrule the whole law, just the parts that were not tailored to the interest... and the reason for overruling the law was that the state failed to meet its burden...  that's what happens, one side of the controversy has a burden to meet (generally, sometimes the burdens shift at certain points).  if the side fails to meet the burden, then that side loses the controversy.
 
2013-11-04 10:32:46 AM

brantgoose: Now you can go back to cussing out that eight year old who keeps whupping your ass at that war game you like so much.

Filthy little ****. If you get your hands on her, you'll cram her iPad where the Sun don't go. But there's no real danger of that because she's in South Korea.


Came to make this comment, but I see it's been handled better.
 
2013-11-04 10:32:55 AM

CleanAndPure: blatz514: Leader O'Cola: Sybarite: The judge added: "Subsection (b) covers a whole cornucopia of 'titillating talk' or 'dirty talk.'

Just when I think a day might go by that I don't read a reference to Miley Cyrus and twerking.

WTF..............................

I wish someone would cut Miley Cyrus's arms off.

... and her head.


So...it's 'CleanAndPure' to dismember people for their thoughts? Nice Troll.

2/10

/That's middle-east thinkin', bro
 
2013-11-04 10:33:03 AM

Ned Stark: In Texas? 90% of criminal cases in the US go to plea bargain instead of a jury. Accusation is conviction everywhere.


Which is why the prosecuter will always pile on charges at the time of arrest.  If your accused of robbing a gas station, you'll be charged for the robbery, you'll get a charge of resisting arrest since you went home after the robbery instead of turning yourself in to the police, speeding and every other little pittlely shiat thing they can think of.  That way there is a better chance you'll plead guilty to the robbery just to get the other 5 charges dropped.
 
2013-11-04 10:35:30 AM

Muta: Sybarite: The judge added: "Subsection (b) covers a whole cornucopia of 'titillating talk' or 'dirty talk.' But it also includes sexually explicit literature such as 'Lolita,' '50 Shades of Grey,' 'Lady Chatterley's Lover,' and Shakespeare's 'Troilus and Cressida.' It includes sexually explicit television shows, movies, and performances such as 'The Tudors,' 'Rome,' 'Eyes Wide Shut,' 'Basic Instinct,' Janet Jackson's 'Wardrobe Malfunction' during the 2004 Super Bowl, and Miley Cyrus' 'twerking' during this year's MTV Video Music Awards. It includes sexually explicit art such as 'The Rape of the Sabine Women,' 'Venus De Milo,' 'the Naked Maja' or Japanese Shunga."


Just when I think a day might go by that I don't read a reference to Miley Cyrus and twerking.

Shakespeare must have shuddered being in that same category as Cyrus.


Why? Shakespeare was a money-grubbing, lowest-common-denominator, two-bit hack.*  He just happened to be the greatest wordsmith in the English language while doing it.  But, if it put asses in seats, he would be all over it like white on rice. "The Twerking of Cumbria" would have been dashed off in a fortnight.

* And he had to be.  No copyright.  Shakes only got paid for actually delivering the play initially and/or from the till if he was part of the management.  If someone put out "Romeo and Lizzette" the next week, and the boy playing Lizzette had better legs, Shakespeare went hungry.  Gratuitous sex, violence, and more fart jokes than you can shake a ... well ... spear at was that orde rof the day.  Remove the aching beautiful prose, and Shakespeare plays are just Chris Farley sketches run together for a couple of hours - and those are the serious tragedies
 
2013-11-04 10:36:32 AM
Note to self, make sure anyone I talk to is from Texas first
 
2013-11-04 10:37:39 AM
vygramul:
They train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write 'fark' on their airplanes because it is obscene.

Unprofessional, not obscene.

The regulations against porn are a holdover from Christian mores, but are morphing into being justified by a desire to not make women feel objectified (theoretically).
 
2013-11-04 10:40:58 AM
   Bennett told the Houston Chronicle that parents, not government, should police who their children talk to and what is said.
     "Parents have the job of dealing with this. This is not the government's job," Bennett told the newspaper.

?Sounds Right
 
2013-11-04 10:43:16 AM

Sandwyrm: vygramul:
They train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write 'fark' on their airplanes because it is obscene.

Unprofessional, not obscene.

The regulations against porn are a holdover from Christian mores, but are morphing into being justified by a desire to not make women feel objectified (theoretically).



So gay porn would be ok?
 
2013-11-04 10:48:49 AM
really wanted to see dancin Pedobear in his cowboy hat.
//leaving disappointed
 
2013-11-04 10:49:35 AM

brantgoose: It would be better to treat pedophiles than to imprison them provided they have not acted on their inclinations. Prison can't last forever and the pedophile is the lowest caste in the prison hierarchy, so rather than penitence and reform, the pedophile is likely to be exposed to torture, violence and heinous murder at the hands of men who can not control their violent inclinations any more than the weakest pedophiles can control their urges.


Slate had a good article along those lines.  Sadly, Slate changed their layout a couple months back and I can't find their "search" feature any more so I can't link to it.  Basically, today if someone feels the inclination toward children yet has not acted, to there is a good chance they'll get turned into the police if they seek psychiatric help.  The Psychiatrist would be risking their practice if that person does commit the crime so they frequently turn people in.  It is impossible to get the laws changed because it quickly turns into a "how dare you protect pedophiles!!" when in reality your trying to treat them before they commit the act.  Mob rule rocks!

BTW - I might be taking some themes of the article out of context.  If I could find the damned search feature I could check myself.
 
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