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2013-11-04 06:21:32 AM  
Hey nice fact-checking in the article!

bransonticket.com
 
2013-11-04 06:23:17 AM  
cdn.pastemagazine.com
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2013-11-04 06:43:05 AM  
Article seems to imply that Chevy Chase was a sniveling suck-up desperate to get airtime no matter how much he would have to demean himself.

/Guessing this is accurate
 
2013-11-04 06:47:01 AM  

The Dynamite Monkey: Hey nice fact-checking in the article!

[bransonticket.com image 318x350]


Saw that, too.  In the comments, the author apologized and blamed the editors.
 
2013-11-04 06:48:53 AM  
The best clip they could get was a iPhone video of YouTube done by an epileptic with Parkinson's?
 
2013-11-04 06:53:57 AM  

KipKips: Article seems to imply that Chevy Chase was a sniveling suck-up desperate to get airtime no matter how much he would have to demean himself.

/Guessing this is accurate


There are only two absolute truths in showbusiness.
You're only as good as the last thing you did, and
Chevy Chase is an asshole
 
2013-11-04 07:00:03 AM  

Bolo Jungle: The Dynamite Monkey: Hey nice fact-checking in the article!

[bransonticket.com image 318x350]

Saw that, too.  In the comments, the author apologized and blamed the editors.


Blog's have editors? I did not know that. I thought editors on websites went the way of the dinosaurs. If they even existed to begin with.
 
2013-11-04 07:12:53 AM  

EvilEgg: The best clip they could get was a iPhone video of YouTube done by an epileptic with Parkinson's?


Not surprising, NBC is crazy about running down any non-official vids of their work.
 
2013-11-04 07:17:36 AM  
All that talk of SNL being culturally subversive, and they wonder why they've been a punch line for the last two decades.
 
2013-11-04 07:33:03 AM  
BFS. Chappelle could have done it better. Lest we not forget.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I7JJChM6IQ
 
2013-11-04 07:47:38 AM  

DemonEater: KipKips: Article seems to imply that Chevy Chase was a sniveling suck-up desperate to get airtime no matter how much he would have to demean himself.

/Guessing this is accurate

There are only two absolute truths in showbusiness.
You're only as good as the last thing you did, and
Chevy Chase is an asshole


The next guy I hear with something nice to say about Chevy Chase will be the first one.

He can be funny, but only in one particular way. His parts in Caddyshack, Fletch, and the Vacation films are essentially the same character, with slightly different levels of intelligence and self-awareness. That's his shtick. Anything else he tries to do is just awful.
 
2013-11-04 07:58:23 AM  

Cybernetic: DemonEater: KipKips: Article seems to imply that Chevy Chase was a sniveling suck-up desperate to get airtime no matter how much he would have to demean himself.

/Guessing this is accurate

There are only two absolute truths in showbusiness.
You're only as good as the last thing you did, and
Chevy Chase is an asshole

The next guy I hear with something nice to say about Chevy Chase will be the first one.

He can be funny, but only in one particular way. His parts in Caddyshack, Fletch, and the Vacation films are essentially the same character, with slightly different levels of intelligence and self-awareness. That's his shtick. Anything else he tries to do is just awful.


Of course, the same can be said about Bull Murray; he plays either the smarmy sleaze, or the punch-drunk guy who talks out of the side of his mouth. That's his shtick. Anything else he tries to do is just awful.
 
2013-11-04 08:03:44 AM  

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I7JJChM6IQ


Wow.  Just...wow.  Laughing in the middle of the office is not good...
 
2013-11-04 08:12:16 AM  

Raktastic: Bolo Jungle: The Dynamite Monkey: Hey nice fact-checking in the article!

[bransonticket.com image 318x350]

Saw that, too.  In the comments, the author apologized and blamed the editors.

Blog's have editors? I did not know that. I thought editors on websites went the way of the dinosaurs. If they even existed to begin with.


Blog IS WHAT?
 
2013-11-04 08:24:45 AM  

Cybernetic: DemonEater: KipKips: Article seems to imply that Chevy Chase was a sniveling suck-up desperate to get airtime no matter how much he would have to demean himself.

/Guessing this is accurate

There are only two absolute truths in showbusiness.
You're only as good as the last thing you did, and
Chevy Chase is an asshole

The next guy I hear with something nice to say about Chevy Chase will be the first one.

He can be funny, but only in one particular way. His parts in Caddyshack, Fletch, and the Vacation films are essentially the same character, with slightly different levels of intelligence and self-awareness. That's his shtick. Anything else he tries to do is just awful.


So?  His roles in those classics were hilarious.  Is that such a bad thing?
 
2013-11-04 08:29:07 AM  

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I7JJChM6IQ


Also: http://www.snotr.com/video/3726/Dave_Chappelle
 
2013-11-04 09:07:08 AM  

DemonEater: KipKips: Article seems to imply that Chevy Chase was a sniveling suck-up desperate to get airtime no matter how much he would have to demean himself.

/Guessing this is accurate

There are only two absolute truths in showbusiness.
You're only as good as the last thing you did, and
Chevy Chase is an asshole


A few years ago, I was flying from Chicago to LA and I boarded the plane and went to take my seat in first class (last minute trip, company was paying) and my seat mate is Chevy Chase.  I has the window so I had to say excuse me and step over him. Once we took off, he struck up a conversation with me.  He was very pleasant and polite to me for the entire flight.
But he was a complete ass-hat to the flight attendants.  He was so rude to them especially the male attendant.  I was embarrassed.  So I asked him why he talked to them that way and why he didn't he say please or thank you, he told me that he didn't have to.  He had earned the right to talk to anyone the way he wanted.
I turned toward the window and the conversation waned.  When we landed he said it was nice to meet me and asked if I wanted an autograph.  I politely declined and stepped over him to get off of the plane.  I have had a hard time watching anything with him in it since them.
 
2013-11-04 09:12:30 AM  

UNC_Samurai: All that talk of SNL being culturally subversive, and they wonder why they've been a punch line for the last two decades.


They have long since become precisely the kind of institutionalized comedy that the originators were
rebelling against.

Such is the way of the world.
 
2013-11-04 09:19:37 AM  
Too funny that back then Lorne Michaels wanted to be edgy but now SNL is anything but edgy to the point that the funniest skit they've had lately is the Kerry Washington skit pointing out the lack of black female cast members on the show.
 
2013-11-04 09:23:21 AM  
Carson always had the best off the cuff quotes.
 
2013-11-04 09:27:07 AM  
Still one of my favorite behind-the-scenes SNL stories

I don't like Norm's brand of comedy, but I gotta respect the man for this OH SNAP moment.
 
2013-11-04 09:59:20 AM  

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: BFS. Chappelle could have done it better. Lest we not forget.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I7JJChM6IQ


And how old was Chappelle when this aired?
 
2013-11-04 10:01:40 AM  

blue_2501: Still one of my favorite behind-the-scenes SNL stories

I don't like Norm's brand of comedy, but I gotta respect the man for this OH SNAP moment.


normally i can't stand jim breuer. but he does a killer norm macdonald.
 
2013-11-04 10:05:17 AM  
It seems that every time Paul Mooney is involved in anything he complains about the whites. I am starting to think that he is a racist.
 
2013-11-04 10:42:46 AM  

LL316: Cybernetic: DemonEater: KipKips: Article seems to imply that Chevy Chase was a sniveling suck-up desperate to get airtime no matter how much he would have to demean himself.

/Guessing this is accurate

There are only two absolute truths in showbusiness.
You're only as good as the last thing you did, and
Chevy Chase is an asshole

The next guy I hear with something nice to say about Chevy Chase will be the first one.

He can be funny, but only in one particular way. His parts in Caddyshack, Fletch, and the Vacation films are essentially the same character, with slightly different levels of intelligence and self-awareness. That's his shtick. Anything else he tries to do is just awful.

So?  His roles in those classics were hilarious.  Is that such a bad thing?


Yeah, I have a hard time counting having a particular schtick against an actor. Does it show a lack of range? Sure, but not everybody is a particularly gifted actor. It's a matter of knowing your groove. John Belushi's schtick was the gross drunk guy. But he NAILED it. Chevy Chase NAILED the non-self-aware upper middle class professional clueless guy. They don't have to do Shakespeare, just playing those roles made them iconic in their own ways.

You don't have to be awesome at everything in order to succeed and be memorable. Just do what you do and do it really well.
 
2013-11-04 10:43:21 AM  

skinink: Too funny that back then Lorne Michaels wanted to be edgy but now SNL is anything but edgy to the point that the funniest skit they've had lately is the Kerry Washington skit pointing out the lack of black female cast members on the show.


i haven't watched much of this week's snl...my parents were in town visiting, so i just caught bits and pieces. it's recorded. but the early sketch that had keenan interviewing pharoe and i think washington had an uncomfortable amount of "white people do/say..." schtick. there are many seriously harsh yet true things that comedians of all races say about other races that by no means offend me...but the snl thing just seemed forced and over-the-top for no reason. when my dad made a comment about it, i agreed with him that it was uncalled for (he said something about if it was white people saying similar things about black people there would be a huge stink over it), and then i just said "i wonder if there is something that was on tv this week they're supposed to be lampooning?" anyone have any thoughts on this?
 
2013-11-04 11:00:03 AM  

akula: You don't have to be awesome at everything in order to succeed and be memorable. Just do what you do and do it really well.


Exactly, another example.....No matter how hard he may try to run from it, Samuel Jackson will always be Gator
 
2013-11-04 11:08:39 AM  

KipKips: Article seems to imply that Chevy Chase was a sniveling suck-up desperate to get airtime no matter how much he would have to demean himself.

/Guessing this is accurate


Not funny then, old and not funny now.
 
2013-11-04 11:12:42 AM  

blue_2501: Still one of my favorite behind-the-scenes SNL stories

I don't like Norm's brand of comedy, but I gotta respect the man for this OH SNAP moment.


Not a Norm fan usually and I hate Jim Brewer with the fiery passion of a million white hot suns, but that was one of the funniest things I have ever heard.
 
2013-11-04 11:14:19 AM  

GalFriday: DemonEater: KipKips: Article seems to imply that Chevy Chase was a sniveling suck-up desperate to get airtime no matter how much he would have to demean himself.

/Guessing this is accurate

There are only two absolute truths in showbusiness.
You're only as good as the last thing you did, and
Chevy Chase is an asshole

A few years ago, I was flying from Chicago to LA and I boarded the plane and went to take my seat in first class (last minute trip, company was paying) and my seat mate is Chevy Chase.  I has the window so I had to say excuse me and step over him. Once we took off, he struck up a conversation with me.  He was very pleasant and polite to me for the entire flight.
But he was a complete ass-hat to the flight attendants.  He was so rude to them especially the male attendant.  I was embarrassed.  So I asked him why he talked to them that way and why he didn't he say please or thank you, he told me that he didn't have to.  He had earned the right to talk to anyone the way he wanted.
I turned toward the window and the conversation waned.  When we landed he said it was nice to meet me and asked if I wanted an autograph.  I politely declined and stepped over him to get off of the plane.  I have had a hard time watching anything with him in it since them.


I have had no truck with Mr. Chase, but I did a fair bit of entertainment reporting back in the day and this sense of entitlement is not particularly rare, nor do the people exhibiting it tend to understand or care that they sound like utter douchebags despite their otherwise friendly presentation.

In other words, I bet this CSB is completely true, based on my own sample survey of douchy celebs.

It must be said, however, that some equally famous people can be quite humble and nice (although, to be fair, actors can usually act, and acting humble is an easy sell). Quite a few seem to grasp that there are so many good actors around that getting a successful TV or movie career is like winning a lottery or cracking a safe...the tumblers must fall just so...and are well aware of the ratio of skill to luck in their own careers.
 
2013-11-04 11:16:02 AM  
Chevy Chase was occasionally funny - he had his moments and for a short while was "the man" in comedy.

But I have never read about any actor and/or comedian being referred to as an asshole (or facsimile thereof) as consistently as Chevy Chase.

The man is now 70 years old and no one has had a positive thing to say about him.  Amazing.
 
2013-11-04 11:33:14 AM  

browneye: But I have never read about any actor and/or comedian being referred to as an asshole (or facsimile thereof) as consistently as Chevy Chase.


Not an actor, but the music business' Chevy Chase is widely known to be Mike Love.

Contrawise, Chevy Chase is comedy's Mike Love.
 
2013-11-04 11:49:19 AM  

Valiente: It must be said, however, that some equally famous people can be quite humble and nice (although, to be fair, actors can usually act, and acting humble is an easy sell). Quite a few seem to grasp that there are so many good actors around that getting a successful TV or movie career is like winning a lottery or cracking a safe...the tumblers must fall just so...and are well aware of the ratio of skill to luck in their own careers.


A lot of these asshats could take a cue from the late great Ronnie James Dio.  Despite his level of fame and adoration he was reported to be one of the coolest, nicest guys around.  Many of his contemporaries told stories about this, like how after one concert some kid is sitting on the curb with no ride home, and Dio gives the kid a ride home on the tour bus.

Chevy Chase can suck it.  If he was on fire it's doubtful he could find anyone to piss on him.
 
2013-11-04 12:12:25 PM  
Piss beside him, perhaps. Just to underline the point. It's the bladder equivalent of "I wouldn't fark that with my enemy's dick".
 
2013-11-04 01:00:13 PM  

LL316: Cybernetic: DemonEater: KipKips: Article seems to imply that Chevy Chase was a sniveling suck-up desperate to get airtime no matter how much he would have to demean himself.

/Guessing this is accurate

There are only two absolute truths in showbusiness.
You're only as good as the last thing you did, and
Chevy Chase is an asshole

The next guy I hear with something nice to say about Chevy Chase will be the first one.

He can be funny, but only in one particular way. His parts in Caddyshack, Fletch, and the Vacation films are essentially the same character, with slightly different levels of intelligence and self-awareness. That's his shtick. Anything else he tries to do is just awful.

So?  His roles in those classics were hilarious.  Is that such a bad thing?


Charlie Chaplin just played that tramp character for the most part, therefore it isn't funny.
 
2013-11-04 01:21:43 PM  
Paul Mooney's schtick seems to be pre-emptively telling his audience that they they don't like him because they are closet racists who feel threatened by him.  Then he proceeds to be singularly unfunny for the rest of the show.

/Carlos Mencia went to the Paul Mooney School of Comedy
 
2013-11-04 01:27:05 PM  

ristst: Many of his contemporaries told stories about this, like how after one concert some kid is sitting on the curb with no ride home, and Dio gives the kid a ride home on the tour bus.


Indeed, there are countless stories of Dio being an absolutely awesome sauce kind of guy. There are a number of stories about how during tours he treated other bands and their members as peers, musicians and never looked down at them, often at times complimenting them and talking shop with them about vocal techniques, song writing, etc...

Dwight_Yeast: Contrawise, Chevy Chase is comedy's Mike Love.


As a corollary, James Spader is Hollywoods Mike Love
 
2013-11-04 01:58:25 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Dwight_Yeast: Contrawise, Chevy Chase is comedy's Mike Love.

As a corollary, James Spader is Hollywoods Mike Love


I am Mike Love's Raging Ego.
 
2013-11-04 02:02:16 PM  
I think Paul Mooney is funny. But deep down he seems like a guy who is using his version of comedy as a hatchet to try to get that chip off of his shoulder and make his audience feel guilty for not being black and oppressed. I end up just feeling bad.
 
2013-11-04 02:44:40 PM  

Johnny_Whistle: Paul Mooney's schtick seems to be pre-emptively telling his audience that they they don't like him because they are closet racists who feel threatened by him.  Then he proceeds to be singularly unfunny for the rest of the show.


I forget what it was, but I saw a ton of Paul Mooney in some documentary about either Pryor or comedy in general. And every time they interviewed him he kept underlining the fact again and again and again that he blamed the lack of superstar status in his own career on the fact that the world was populated entirely by closet racists. I mean, he made it clear that he thinks every single non-black person hates every single black person with the burning passion of ten thousand suns.

Was totally strange to see that over and over and over again.
 
2013-11-04 03:27:17 PM  

dramboxf: I forget what it was, but I saw a ton of Paul Mooney in some documentary about either Pryor or comedy in general. And every time they interviewed him he kept underlining the fact again and again and again that he blamed the lack of superstar status in his own career on the fact that the world was populated entirely by closet racists. I mean, he made it clear that he thinks every single non-black person hates every single black person with the burning passion of ten thousand suns.

Was totally strange to see that over and over and over again.


 A few years back he was on The Green Room with Paul Provenza, with Rain Pryor and a few others.  He told a story about how he called Richard Pryor's home "the house of pain", and how he sometimes took care of young Rain when her parents were fighting.

One of the other comics (Bobby Slayton I believe) ragged him saying "yeah, that was a real funny story Paul".

Mooney's response was "sounds like something a white dude would say".

Provenza called him on it somewhat sternly, saying "tell me...how was that racist?"
 
2013-11-04 07:09:31 PM  

blue_2501: Still one of my favorite behind-the-scenes SNL stories

I don't like Norm's brand of comedy, but I gotta respect the man for this OH SNAP moment.


Thanks to that clip I've spent the last 45 minutes trying to find the SNL Twilight Zone sketch. Anybody have luck?
 
2013-11-04 09:06:31 PM  
 
2013-11-04 09:45:45 PM  
Pryor is a better President than Obama.
 
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