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2013-11-03 11:54:25 PM
Yeah, they stink on ice.
 
2013-11-04 12:07:19 AM
Protest organisers said 30,000 people, including hauliers, fishermen and food industry workers, had gathered in the town of Quimper in Brittany to demonstrate against an environmental tax on trucks and layoffs, even though the government had earlier in the week suspended the application of the so-called ecotax.

Protesting shiat that isn't even happening. Where have I seen that before?

Oh yeah:

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2013-11-04 12:07:58 AM
They've always been revolting. But now, they're rebelling
 
2013-11-04 12:12:04 AM
Le meh
 
2013-11-04 12:15:19 AM
Go be snobby and effeminate somewhere else.
 
2013-11-04 01:00:49 AM
Count de Monet: It is said that the people are revolting.

Louis XVI: You said it! They stink on ice!

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2013-11-04 01:02:36 AM

Therion: Yeah, they stink on ice.


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Also stink on ice.
 
2013-11-04 01:03:19 AM
There are teabaggers in France now?
 
2013-11-04 01:03:20 AM

Therion: Yeah, they stink on ice.


Done in one.
 
2013-11-04 01:03:52 AM
You got to admire the French for stuff like this.

It's a country where the government is honestly and legitimately afraid of its own people, and it institutes policy based on that fear. When your country has a history of tracking down government officials and beheading them (and even occasions where the government itself is considered broken beyond repair so they dissolve it and start over -- the current one is the Fifth French Republic), they try to get away with less shiat.
 
2013-11-04 01:04:39 AM
You went the wrong way, old King Louie.
Now we must put you on the shelf.
That's why the people are revolting, 'cuz Louie,
You're pretty revolting yourself!

/R.I.P. Allan Sherman
 
2013-11-04 01:10:51 AM
Some of the protestors pelted police with stones, iron bars and even pots of chrysanthemum, while others burned palettes. Police responded with water cannons and tear gas.

It was probably the flowers that sent them over the edge.

Oh I do love the French. If any people knows how to protest, it's them.

/Also, their pastries are delicious
 
2013-11-04 01:18:37 AM

Canton: Some of the protestors pelted police with stones, iron bars and even pots of chrysanthemum, while others burned palettes. Police responded with water cannons and tear gas.

It was probably the flowers that sent them over the edge.

Oh I do love the French. If any people knows how to protest, it's them.

/Also, their pastries are delicious


Chrysanthemums are associated with death in French culture, and are supposed to be used only for funerals. This leads me to believe the protesters want someone's head.
 
2013-11-04 01:23:07 AM

opaqueluminosity: Protesting shiat that isn't even happening.


It hasn't been suspended indefinitely.  Hence the protest.
 
2013-11-04 01:23:50 AM
... or any year since then.
 
2013-11-04 01:27:31 AM

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: ... or any year since then.


Yeah... Don't the French have a brou-ha-ha like this every few months? This one didn't even torch any cars.
 
2013-11-04 01:29:49 AM
Oh, and a socialist country protesting taxes?  Are we sure this isn't about California?
 
2013-11-04 01:30:48 AM
Some of the protestors pelted police with stones, iron bars and even pots of chrysanthemum

Seriously, who throws a chrysanthemum?
 
2013-11-04 01:32:59 AM

Paris1127: Canton: Some of the protestors pelted police with stones, iron bars and even pots of chrysanthemum, while others burned palettes. Police responded with water cannons and tear gas.

It was probably the flowers that sent them over the edge.

Oh I do love the French. If any people knows how to protest, it's them.

/Also, their pastries are delicious

Chrysanthemums are associated with death in French culture, and are supposed to be used only for funerals. This leads me to believe the protesters want someone's head.


Yeah, that had occurred to me. But you'd think hurling iron bars at people would get that point across pretty well. Adding mums to the mix is just funny.

But who knows. This happened in Bretagne. They're a bit different up there, and I mean that in the best possible way. Also, Quimper is a beautiful city in a gorgeous province. Hopefully they don't make too much of a mess...
 
2013-11-04 01:34:08 AM

GoldSpider: Oh, and a socialist country protesting taxes?  Are we sure this isn't about California?


Nah, we were adults about it and just went ahead and raised our own taxes when it became necessary. Passed with a pretty healthy margin and fixed our budget problems too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_30_(2012)

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Gov-Brown-proudly-signs-balanced- st ate-budget-4628307.php
 
2013-11-04 01:43:52 AM

opaqueluminosity: GoldSpider: Oh, and a socialist country protesting taxes?  Are we sure this isn't about California?

Nah, we were adults about it and just went ahead and raised our own taxes when it became necessary. Passed with a pretty healthy margin and fixed our budget problems too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_30_(2012)

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Gov-Brown-proudly-signs-balanced- st ate-budget-4628307.php


Is there an income per voter breakdown? There's nothing amazing about people with less money voting to force successful people to pay more in taxes, How many people affected by this 'temporary' prop voted for the increase?
 
2013-11-04 01:47:42 AM

robohobo: opaqueluminosity: GoldSpider: Oh, and a socialist country protesting taxes?  Are we sure this isn't about California?

Nah, we were adults about it and just went ahead and raised our own taxes when it became necessary. Passed with a pretty healthy margin and fixed our budget problems too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_30_(2012)

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Gov-Brown-proudly-signs-balanced- st ate-budget-4628307.php

Is there an income per voter breakdown? There's nothing amazing about people with less money voting to force successful people to pay more in taxes, How many people affected by this 'temporary' prop voted for the increase?


Considering Hollywood, probably more than most places.
 
2013-11-04 01:52:05 AM
The French are revolting?  I've heard they can be a little annoying to foreigners but aren't you being a little harsh subby?
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2013-11-04 01:54:41 AM
FTA : The ecotax, aimed at encouraging environmentally friendly commercial transport, imposes new levies on French and foreign vehicles transporting commercial goods weighing over 3.5 tonnes.

If you cant afford the tax you arent really a player in French transport and should just go away as per design.
 
2013-11-04 01:56:29 AM
Send in the Tea Party Brigade!

But seriously folks ... if the "burdensome taxes" that Amurrcan teabaggers hate, or are afraid could be levied, were described to the average French citizen, he'd probably point and laugh, incredulously.
 
2013-11-04 02:01:32 AM

Trocadero: robohobo: opaqueluminosity: GoldSpider: Oh, and a socialist country protesting taxes?  Are we sure this isn't about California?

Nah, we were adults about it and just went ahead and raised our own taxes when it became necessary. Passed with a pretty healthy margin and fixed our budget problems too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_30_(2012)

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Gov-Brown-proudly-signs-balanced- st ate-budget-4628307.php

Is there an income per voter breakdown? There's nothing amazing about people with less money voting to force successful people to pay more in taxes, How many people affected by this 'temporary' prop voted for the increase?

Considering Hollywood, probably more than most places.


I'm really just curious. The affected incomes really aren't *that* large, considering that it's California, especially, as you mention, when one accounts for Hollywood, and northern areas. But then, the high money Hollywood base isnt too terribly populous.
 
2013-11-04 02:03:32 AM
A revolting Frenchman, well there's something you don't see everyd... well, yeah, I guess that's something that would be seen on a regular occasion.

/their hairy woman are pretty nasty, too.
 
2013-11-04 02:07:21 AM
"Boy those French! They have a different word for everything."
 
2013-11-04 02:08:37 AM

TheMega: A revolting Frenchman, well there's something you don't see everyd... well, yeah, I guess that's something that would be seen on a regular occasion.

/their hairy woman are pretty nasty, too.


Au contraire. The best lover I ever had was an unshaven French girl. Magnifique.
 
2013-11-04 02:13:01 AM

MrBallou: TheMega: A revolting Frenchman, well there's something you don't see everyd... well, yeah, I guess that's something that would be seen on a regular occasion.

/their hairy woman are pretty nasty, too.

Au contraire. The best lover I ever had was an unshaven French girl. Magnifique.


I worked with a guy once. Had a french wife, and she was absolutely beautiful. Drop dead gorgeous. In the top 5 most beautiful women I've ever seen in person or on screen. But she smelled like shiat. Literally, she smelled like feces. I don't know what the deal was.
 
2013-11-04 02:21:08 AM
In France (repeatedly):
Me: Excuse me, do you speak English?
French person *looks down nose*: Non.
Me: ...


... = Then How The Hell Did You Just Understand Me?!!


Never ceases to amaze me how countries/locales dependent on tourism grow to resent the tourism that made them flourish in the first place.

Maybe to many laws protecting the tourists while chewing up the locals?
Balance in all things maybe, so I digress.
 
2013-11-04 02:26:53 AM

robohobo: Trocadero: robohobo: opaqueluminosity: GoldSpider: Oh, and a socialist country protesting taxes?  Are we sure this isn't about California?

Nah, we were adults about it and just went ahead and raised our own taxes when it became necessary. Passed with a pretty healthy margin and fixed our budget problems too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_30_(2012)

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Gov-Brown-proudly-signs-balanced- st ate-budget-4628307.php

Is there an income per voter breakdown? There's nothing amazing about people with less money voting to force successful people to pay more in taxes, How many people affected by this 'temporary' prop voted for the increase?

Considering Hollywood, probably more than most places.

I'm really just curious. The affected incomes really aren't *that* large, considering that it's California, especially, as you mention, when one accounts for Hollywood, and northern areas. But then, the high money Hollywood base isnt too terribly populous.


The first thing I Googled says support was higher among higher income folks, interestingly.

http://www.californiahealthline.org/articles/2012/9/21/analysis-finds - prop-30-support-higher-among-wealthier-people

Election result maps bear that out, at least by median income:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_30_(2012)

http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/california/ m edian-household-income
 
2013-11-04 02:30:50 AM

Raktastic: "Boy those French! They have a different word for everything."


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Madame Defarge - We don't even have a language! Just a stupid accent!
Peasant Man - Yeah she's right. We all sound like Maurice Chevalier. Honh, honh, honh!
 
2013-11-04 02:32:13 AM

Resident Muslim: In France (repeatedly):
Me: Excuse me, do you speak English?
French person *looks down nose*: Non.
Me: ...


... = Then How The Hell Did You Just Understand Me?!!


Never ceases to amaze me how countries/locales dependent on tourism grow to resent the tourism that made them flourish in the first place.

Maybe to many laws protecting the tourists while chewing up the locals?
Balance in all things maybe, so I digress.


To be fair, they may well know the phrase, but not know much else in English. Anecdotally, before my wife went private practice and was slaving for the state, she dealt with innumerable patients(mostly of the hispanic or russian variety) who feigned ignorance of English, only to be thoroughly pwned by my wife when she would break out in their native to call them out on their BS no English lies.
 
2013-11-04 02:34:21 AM

Resident Muslim: In France (repeatedly):
Me: Excuse me, do you speak English?
French person *looks down nose*: Non.
Me: ...


... = Then How The Hell Did You Just Understand Me?!!


Never ceases to amaze me how countries/locales dependent on tourism grow to resent the tourism that made them flourish in the first place.

Maybe to many laws protecting the tourists while chewing up the locals?
Balance in all things maybe, so I digress.


As someone who frequently travels to countries where I don't speak the language, is it that Farking hard to learn to say, "Parlez vous Anglais?"?
 
2013-11-04 02:36:40 AM

gutter_ca/fl: Resident Muslim: In France (repeatedly):
Me: Excuse me, do you speak English?
French person *looks down nose*: Non.
Me: ...


... = Then How The Hell Did You Just Understand Me?!!


Never ceases to amaze me how countries/locales dependent on tourism grow to resent the tourism that made them flourish in the first place.

Maybe to many laws protecting the tourists while chewing up the locals?
Balance in all things maybe, so I digress.

As someone who frequently travels to countries where I don't speak the language, is it that Farking hard to learn to say, "Parlez vous Anglais?"?


/meant to add: it's about respect
//late slashies
 
2013-11-04 02:36:54 AM

opaqueluminosity: Protest organisers said 30,000 people, including hauliers, fishermen and food industry workers, had gathered in the town of Quimper in Brittany to demonstrate against an environmental tax on trucks and layoffs, even though the government had earlier in the week suspended the application of the so-called ecotax.

Protesting shiat that isn't even happening. Where have I seen that before?

Oh yeah:

[davidmallard.id.au image 850x637]


The tax wasn't repealed.  Only suspended.  If the French government is like like every other government in the world when it comes to taxes, they're just waiting to implement it later on.
 
2013-11-04 02:40:24 AM

opaqueluminosity: GoldSpider: Oh, and a socialist country protesting taxes?  Are we sure this isn't about California?

Nah, we were adults about it and just went ahead and raised our own taxes when it became necessary. Passed with a pretty healthy margin and fixed our budget problems too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_30_(2012)

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Gov-Brown-proudly-signs-balanced- st ate-budget-4628307.php


Sure it did.  This is California.  If we aren't running a massive deficit at all times, it means we aren't spending enough money.  I was 100% against the tax increases.  The state has plenty of revenue.  We have one of the highest tax rates in the entire country.  It's a damn spending problem and until spending gets under control, they problem is going to come back, most likely sooner than later.
 
2013-11-04 02:43:54 AM

gutter_ca/fl: Resident Muslim: In France (repeatedly):
Me: Excuse me, do you speak English?
French person *looks down nose*: Non.
Me: ...


... = Then How The Hell Did You Just Understand Me?!!


Never ceases to amaze me how countries/locales dependent on tourism grow to resent the tourism that made them flourish in the first place.

Maybe to many laws protecting the tourists while chewing up the locals?
Balance in all things maybe, so I digress.

As someone who frequently travels to countries where I don't speak the language, is it that Farking hard to learn to say, "Parlez vous Anglais?"?

 
Apparently it is for some people. Seriously, at least learning a few polite phrases in the native language will probably get you pretty far. Learning how to ask where the bathroom is, and how to understand directions is also useful. Oh, and food vocabulary, so you know what you're ordering whilst in a restaurant. As long as you're trying, you're probably going to get a better response from the locals. Really depends on the country, I'm sure. But in France, at least attempt a phrase or three of the language. They appreciate it over there.

/Don't blame them
//It's seriously beautiful
 
2013-11-04 02:44:27 AM

gutter_ca/fl: Resident Muslim: In France (repeatedly):
Me: Excuse me, do you speak English?
French person *looks down nose*: Non.
Me: ...


... = Then How The Hell Did You Just Understand Me?!!


Never ceases to amaze me how countries/locales dependent on tourism grow to resent the tourism that made them flourish in the first place.

Maybe to many laws protecting the tourists while chewing up the locals?
Balance in all things maybe, so I digress.

As someone who frequently travels to countries where I don't speak the language, is it that Farking hard to learn to say, "Parlez vous Anglais?"?


Actually.  Yes.  The French get damn annoyed if you mispronounce one of their words even a tiny amount.
 
2013-11-04 02:45:41 AM
i26.tinypic.com
 
2013-11-04 02:45:49 AM

OgreMagi: gutter_ca/fl: Resident Muslim: In France (repeatedly):
Me: Excuse me, do you speak English?
French person *looks down nose*: Non.
Me: ...


... = Then How The Hell Did You Just Understand Me?!!


Never ceases to amaze me how countries/locales dependent on tourism grow to resent the tourism that made them flourish in the first place.

Maybe to many laws protecting the tourists while chewing up the locals?
Balance in all things maybe, so I digress.

As someone who frequently travels to countries where I don't speak the language, is it that Farking hard to learn to say, "Parlez vous Anglais?"?

Actually.  Yes.  The French get damn annoyed if you mispronounce one of their words even a tiny amount.


I should have limited that to "Parisians".  Outside of Paris people aren't such assholes.
 
2013-11-04 03:06:20 AM

Canton: Paris1127: Canton: Some of the protestors pelted police with stones, iron bars and even pots of chrysanthemum, while others burned palettes. Police responded with water cannons and tear gas.

It was probably the flowers that sent them over the edge.

Oh I do love the French. If any people knows how to protest, it's them.

/Also, their pastries are delicious

Chrysanthemums are associated with death in French culture, and are supposed to be used only for funerals. This leads me to believe the protesters want someone's head.

Yeah, that had occurred to me. But you'd think hurling iron bars at people would get that point across pretty well. Adding mums to the mix is just funny.

But who knows. This happened in Bretagne. They're a bit different up there, and I mean that in the best possible way. Also, Quimper is a beautiful city in a gorgeous province. Hopefully they don't make too much of a mess...


Quite true.  For one thing, even though nearly everybody speaks French, it's not the native language.  It's Breton--a Celtic language rather than a Romance language like French.  Aside from the Basque region, it's probably the least French part of France.
 
2013-11-04 03:19:30 AM
The French are surrendering....
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The French are being held captive...
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The French are revolting...
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The best sitcom of all time...EVAR!
 
2013-11-04 03:35:28 AM

NDP2: Canton: Paris1127: Canton: Some of the protestors pelted police with stones, iron bars and even pots of chrysanthemum, while others burned palettes. Police responded with water cannons and tear gas.

It was probably the flowers that sent them over the edge.

Oh I do love the French. If any people knows how to protest, it's them.

/Also, their pastries are delicious

Chrysanthemums are associated with death in French culture, and are supposed to be used only for funerals. This leads me to believe the protesters want someone's head.

Yeah, that had occurred to me. But you'd think hurling iron bars at people would get that point across pretty well. Adding mums to the mix is just funny.

But who knows. This happened in Bretagne. They're a bit different up there, and I mean that in the best possible way. Also, Quimper is a beautiful city in a gorgeous province. Hopefully they don't make too much of a mess...

Quite true.  For one thing, even though nearly everybody speaks French, it's not the native language.  It's Breton--a Celtic language rather than a Romance language like French.  Aside from the Basque region, it's probably the least French part of France.


Yep. My high school French class went there my senior year. We had week-long home stays there. I stayed with a family in Concarneau. I think most of my classmates ended up in Quimper (which I got to see briefly during a road trip), but Concarneau is right there on the coast. Wonderful family, beautiful town. Good times...

Bretagne has a very strong provincial identity. It's definitely still French, but it's still closer, literally and culturally, to its neighbor across the English Channel, than other regions. I'd recommend a visit for anyone vacationing in France, not because of the relative lack of Frenchness, but because it's a worthwhile place to visit that probably gets overshadowed by Paris, and the south of France, a little too much.

Plus Normandy's right next door, if you are a WWII buff.

i40.tinypic.com

/Vive la Bretagne!
 
2013-11-04 03:47:48 AM
Was this their leader?

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\Really? I'm the first.
 
2013-11-04 04:12:25 AM
Done in one.
 
2013-11-04 05:16:46 AM
Aw, they'e not that bad subby. Ok, maybe the Parisians...

Oblig:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTLwzuQuRsw
 
2013-11-04 05:39:27 AM
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Rock and riot all night.
 
2013-11-04 06:05:34 AM

Resident Muslim: In France (repeatedly):
Me: Excuse me, do you speak English?
French person *looks down nose*: Non.
Me: ...


... = Then How The Hell Did You Just Understand Me?!!



You think they can't understand "Speak English?" just as easily as you can understand "parlez vous Francais" or "habla Espanol"?  Heck, those are probably the only 2 phrases in either language I *do* know. :)
 
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