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2013-11-03 03:31:58 PM

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2013-11-03 04:32:48 PM
Meh. One point of contention. Beer brewing did not start with the Sumerians, and not the Egyptians either, if you thought that's where I was going. The earliest finds of pottery with beer residue predate either society. I'll see if I can dig up some cites.
 
2013-11-03 04:33:02 PM
Uh oh, it's a potential religion thread....

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2013-11-03 04:33:17 PM
Craft beer?  I thought they made macaroni and cheese and such?
 
2013-11-03 04:34:56 PM

trappedspirit: Craft beer?  I thought they made macaroni and cheese and such?


The thought of Kraft beer makes me nauseous
 
2013-11-03 04:35:48 PM
Beer is bread is civilization.
 
2013-11-03 04:38:42 PM

CK2005: trappedspirit: Craft beer?  I thought they made macaroni and cheese and such?

The thought of Kraft beer makes me nauseous


how about kraftwerk beer?

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2013-11-03 04:39:03 PM
Beer makes you fat and prevents your dick from doing anything much apart from leaking warm piss into your fatboy shorts when you fart.
 
2013-11-03 04:43:54 PM

CK2005: trappedspirit: Craft beer?  I thought they made macaroni and cheese and such?

The thought of Kraft beer makes me nauseous


Fortunately, a different brewer has already taken the name. Link
 
2013-11-03 04:46:48 PM

YoOjo: Beer makes you fat and prevents your dick from doing anything much apart from leaking warm piss into your fatboy shorts when you fart.


That was funny! Now try saying the same thing in a room full of fat, small-penised Irishmen.
 
2013-11-03 04:46:56 PM

CK2005: trappedspirit: Craft beer?  I thought they made macaroni and cheese and such?

The thought of Kraft beer makes me nauseous


After the twelveth one it starts to stay down
 
2013-11-03 04:47:04 PM
Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac
 
2013-11-03 04:50:16 PM
In before letro.......ooops .Nevermind .
 
2013-11-03 04:52:19 PM

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


1. Nope
2. Nope
3. Nope
4. Nope
5. Nope
6. Nope
7. Nope
8. Nope
9. Nope
10. Bleh. Doesn't everybody?
 
2013-11-03 04:56:00 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: YoOjo: Beer makes you fat and prevents your dick from doing anything much apart from leaking warm piss into your fatboy shorts when you fart.

That was funny! Now try saying the same thing in a room full of fat, small-penised Irishmen.


Just trying to keep it fair and balanced, there's two sides to the scenario.
Not all men need 12 bottles of sugary crap a night to be able to cope with the complete farce that their life has devolved into.
Also, why Irish?
 
2013-11-03 04:56:03 PM

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


This shiat get posted in every craft beer thread... If you don't like craft beer don't drink it. If you don't like light american lager, don't drink that...

Why is that so hard?

/craft beer drinker!
//are you allowed to hate both walmart and Starbucks???
 
2013-11-03 04:58:32 PM

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


So...a sip of craft beer immediately turns you into a hipster? I'll have to be careful next time I'm drinking a craft beer and doing none of those.

But uh...good point.
 
2013-11-03 05:02:26 PM
While it's not exactly what I'd consider a craft brewery, I picked up a 12 pack of Sam Adams 'winter collection' at Publix yesterday.  I'm normally not a big stout fan, but their Chocolate Cherry Stout that comes in it was pretty tasty.
 
2013-11-03 05:03:25 PM
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Devoted indeed
 
2013-11-03 05:08:55 PM

YoOjo: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: YoOjo: Beer makes you fat and prevents your dick from doing anything much apart from leaking warm piss into your fatboy shorts when you fart.

That was funny! Now try saying the same thing in a room full of fat, small-penised Irishmen.

Just trying to keep it fair and balanced, there's two sides to the scenario.
Not all men need 12 bottles of sugary crap a night to be able to cope with the complete farce that their life has devolved into.


To be fair, the article is talking about beer, not Coors Light.

Also, why Irish?

The Irish are known worldwide for their response, when drunk, to finer philosophical discussion about how small their penises are.
 
2013-11-03 05:10:53 PM

Tchernobog: So...a sip of craft beer immediately turns you into a hipster?


Wait... hipsters have money?

I mean craft beer is bloody expensive, isn't it?
 
2013-11-03 05:20:10 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: YoOjo: 

Also, why Irish?

The Irish are known worldwide for their response, when drunk, to finer philosophical discussion about how small their penises are.


Oh, ok. I didn't mention penis size though, I said, or rather I implied, that beer makes them unable to stand erect but I didn't mention small penises per se.
So you're saying the Irish are irrational thugs with tiny penises? Or am I misunderstanding you similar to how you misunderstood me?
 
2013-11-03 05:20:26 PM
Keep your church out of my beer and I'll keep my beer out of your church.
 
2013-11-03 05:28:05 PM
Monks make some of the best beer around. I mean if you'd taken a vow of chastity and poverty and silence you'd drink too.
 
2013-11-03 05:32:09 PM

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


I drink craft beer but your list doesn't seem to be a good match for me.
1. I watch a lot of TV.
2. I ride my bike a lot but I don't have spandex shorts. (This is a good thing for me and for everyone else).
3. I don't watch Japanese children's cartoons and I don't own a Mac.  I don't have a problem with Macs I just don't own one.
4. I don't own any vinyl records.
5. I don't read books at Starbucks but I do drink a lot of their coffee.
6. I like women with small breasts.  I like women with big breasts.  Maybe I just like women.
7. I do make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.  Doesn't everybody?  Score 1 on your scale.
8. Being near cigarette smoke can make me cough.  I've never liked it.  I view it as akin to voluntary flatulence; a smoker is a person who is willing to spend money to reek.  Score 2 on your scale.
9. Size seems to matter in many things.
10. Never liked Big Macs because I never liked onions and getting McD's to make it my way was a painful process back in the day.  I understand it is better now.  I guess that's a score of 3 on your scale and yet I still like Craft beer.  Funny that.
 
2013-11-03 05:38:00 PM

YoOjo: Beer makes you fat and prevents your dick from doing anything much apart from leaking warm piss into your fatboy shorts when you fart.


You are trying too hard
2/10
 
2013-11-03 05:38:59 PM

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:


1. Craft beer outside of America is just called "beer." We just have to distinguish it from the crap put out by a small number of breweries after prohibition and the repeal allowed them to establish a monopoly.

2. People who go into craft beer threads to make fun of people who drink craft beer have small penises. Study it out.
 
2013-11-03 05:41:01 PM
Second link today of NPR talking about beer and God, Beer + God + NPR = ?
 
2013-11-03 05:41:42 PM

YoOjo: Oh, ok. I didn't mention penis size though, I said, or rather I implied, that beer makes them unable to stand erect but I didn't mention small penises per se.
So you're saying the Irish are irrational thugs with tiny penises? Or am I misunderstanding you similar to how you misunderstood me?


I'm saying a room full of beer-drinking Irishmen would take umbrage with certain of your statements regarding their penises, and likely enjoy the opportunity to vigorously engage you in discussion.

The Irish are generally known as the world's best debaters, you see.
 
2013-11-03 05:43:54 PM

whipbambucket: //are you allowed to hate both Walmart and Starbucks???


What is the difference?
 
2013-11-03 05:45:34 PM

rockforever: Beer is bread is civilization.


There's actually an interesting theory right now that the correct order is "beer is civilization is bread"(the citation I'm trying to find)

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


Not only is 1/10 how many of those statements accurately describe me, it's also you're score for this pile of drivel. Take it and go.
 
2013-11-03 05:46:58 PM

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


I know tons of craft beer drinkers, toured dozens of breweries, hung out at many fests and I can't say I've ever met a craft beer drinker that does any of this crap.  This sounds more like a hipster PBR drinker.  You really need to rework this...actually just trash it and start over.
 
2013-11-03 05:47:00 PM

grumpfuff: Not only is 1/10 how many of those statements accurately describe me, it's also your score for this pile of drivel. Take it and go.


FTFM
 
2013-11-03 05:52:39 PM
Franklin may have been talking about wine and not beer in his misattributed quote, but the point he made in the real one is much more interesting.

We hear of the conversion of water into wine at the marriage in Cana as of a miracle. But this conversion is, through the goodness of God, made every day before our eyes. Behold the rain which descends from heaven upon our vineyards; there it enters the roots of the vines, to be changed into wine; a constant proof that God loves us, and loves to see us happy. The miracle in question was only performed to hasten the operation, under circumstances of present necessity, which required it.
 
2013-11-03 05:58:22 PM
I miss Zymurgy
 
2013-11-03 06:25:51 PM

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


Yep, nope, nope, yep, nope, less than a mouthful/more than a handful is a waste, Wal-Mart is quite capable of generating snide remarks on its own without my help, pass me that bong, it doesn't for me because I'm hung, and I hate thousand island dressing.

Buuuuuuut I just homebrew wine.
 
2013-11-03 06:33:18 PM
Still no cure for using hops to cover up the fact you can't make a decent beer
 
2013-11-03 06:41:49 PM
Beers brewed for the sole purpose of employing artists to create fancy labels or using puns to play on common beer terms (Im looking at you, Hopsecutioner) all boils down to the craft beer craze catering to the person who cant keep their attention on one thing for more than a minute before moving on to something else.
 
2013-11-03 06:43:43 PM
Wow. Got some good hits, letrole.
 
2013-11-03 06:50:00 PM

o5iiawah: Beers brewed for the sole purpose of employing artists to create fancy labels or using puns to play on common beer terms (Im looking at you, Hopsecutioner) all boils down to the craft beer craze catering to the person who cant keep their attention on one thing for more than a minute before moving on to something else.


It's not just that. Craft beer has also become an excuse to charge 3x the price for the same crap you can buy from the big corporations.
 
2013-11-03 06:50:50 PM

chitownmike: YoOjo: Beer makes you fat and prevents your dick from doing anything much apart from leaking warm piss into your fatboy shorts when you fart.

You are trying too hard
2/10


That's fair, I was sober after all.
 
2013-11-03 06:52:34 PM

Son of Thunder: Wow. Got some good hits, letrole.


its annoying,. but it works for the dude. I really need to get around to ignoring it, and replies to it.. unfortunatly, there would only be about 5 posts in this thread if I did so.,

so, it is a successful troll. then again, a dead beat Dad that manages to father 10 children with 7 different women can be considered "successful" genetically.
 
2013-11-03 06:59:09 PM
If anyone is a serious geek, both science and beer, I recommend The History of Beer and Brewing, by Ian Hornsey (http://ebook.rsc.org/?doi=10.1039/9781847550026). Yes, it's published by the Royal Society of Chemistry. It's an excellent book, if a bit academic. Also, long at 750 pages.
 
2013-11-03 07:11:57 PM

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:


I know you're the troll, but I had to respond anyway just cuz my husband drinks craft beer and I'm bored and feeling argumentative.

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years (56 inch flatscreen, on currently)
2. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers (Uh...pretty sure he wouldn't normally be caught dead in spandex, but I might be able to get him to do it if I get him drunk enough)
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac (ok...we do sometimes watch japanese children's cartoons for the lol's but own no mac...)
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records (no....)
5. Read books at Starbucks (he reads e-books everywhere, so if he were at starbucks I'm sure he would...but we don't even have a starbucks in our town anyway)
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts (He has never been bashful in voicing his desire for thick women with massive tits...so no...)
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart. (who the hell doesn't? Even those that shop there.)
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises (no)
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter (no...he's not delusional...but not something he has to worry bout regardless)
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac (Ok yeah...he prefers quarter pounders w/ cheese...)
 
2013-11-03 07:17:29 PM
Not quite the citations I was looking for, but still.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/04/0424_kurtbeer.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/opinion/sunday/how-beer-gave-us-civ i lization.html?_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/opinion/sunday/ how-beer-gave-us-civi lization.html?_r=0


More scholarly, pdf warning

http://www.penn.museum/documents/publications/expedition/PDFs/28-2/B re ad.pdf

And, just for fun

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_beer
 
2013-11-03 07:27:20 PM

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


I mostly drink craft beer and also try a bit of home brewing from time to time.

1) Watch plenty of TV.
2) Don't even have a bike.
3) Nope. But I do have a Mac as well as Windows machines.
4) Don't have a record player or any vinyl. Most of the music I buy is from iTunes.
5) I read everywhere, but mostly at home.
6) Any size is good with me, but I think fake ones look weird.
7) I don't go out of my way to slam WalMart. I've found it unpleasant most of the times I've shopped there. Anyway, there's a Target a half-mile from me, and no Walmarts nearby, so it's not really an issue that comes up.
8) No, but sometimes walking through a cloud of smoke can cause you to cough for real. No foolin.
9) I'm happy with what I've got.
10) does anyone think that a Big Mac is a good hamburger?
 
2013-11-03 07:32:41 PM

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


Ah, ain't he cute...

1. The wife and I watch a couple of Netflix movies a week on ours. Otherwise, no...it never gets turned on. We live out in the sticks with no TV reception.
2. I ride up to 100 miles a week (the work commute is 20 miles round trip)...spandex with padding makes that reasonably comfortable for my boney ass.
3. wtf?
4. I threw out my vinyl collection in about 1984 when CDs became affordable.
5. I'm too cheap to hand out in coffee shops.
6. More than a mouthful is wasted.
7. Yeah I know...you've never even  BEEN in a Walmart.
8. Nope, but I do have a sign on my desk that reads, "Kissing a Smoker is like Licking an Ashtray". That hipster enough for you?
9. Actually, my wife always has me lube up and go easy 'cuz I'm "too big".
10. Whoppers are way better, but if I'm hungry I'm not too picky.

Feel better now?
 
2013-11-03 08:10:37 PM

letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


Beer is a religion.
 
2013-11-03 08:35:08 PM
The article mentions the Greenbelt Festival....

English Christians are a very different vibe than 'Merican evangelicals. I have a few friends who have played Greenbelt and have had the privilege of hoisting a few with them. It's like it's a totally different religion.... where people smiling and being happy is normal.
 
2013-11-03 08:46:02 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: o5iiawah: Beers brewed for the sole purpose of employing artists to create fancy labels or using puns to play on common beer terms (Im looking at you, Hopsecutioner) all boils down to the craft beer craze catering to the person who cant keep their attention on one thing for more than a minute before moving on to something else.

It's not just that. Craft beer has also become an excuse to charge 3x the price for the same crap you can buy from the big corporations.


Look at how stupid you are.
 
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