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2013-11-03 12:11:35 PM
Fleet of drones aaaaaand go!
 
2013-11-03 12:11:49 PM
Yeah, no shiat?

If some asshole country came to your house, killed your family and friends, and basically left you with nothing, then that group down the block with the guns and desire for revenge against that country might become just a bit more attractive.
 
2013-11-03 12:14:30 PM
Event missing: freestyle suicide bombing

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2013-11-03 12:15:29 PM
Dumbasses.

They're not too different from the Daily Fail.
 
TWX
2013-11-03 12:27:31 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Yeah, no shiat?

If some asshole country came to your house, killed your family and friends, and basically left you with nothing, then that group down the block with the guns and desire for revenge against that country might become just a bit more attractive.


Pretty much. It doesn't take much to remove someone's desire to conform or to follow social rules. Killing people they care about or otherwise taking away the reasons or benefits they have to not lash out would do that to just about anyone. Throw in a few charismatic leaders with their own not-incompatible agendas and it's just a repeat of the kinds of things humans have done forever.

Hell, one can argue that this is actually the norm, and that these static borders and monitored frontiers that we all grew up with are the aberration.
 
2013-11-03 12:27:53 PM

Vector R: Fleet of drones aaaaaand go!


Yeah, I've heard that playing "Dodge the Hellfires" is fun, but, I forgot who said that.
 
2013-11-03 12:29:52 PM
Scheduled events:
- Grenade and spoon races.
- Musical torture chairs.
- Drone Hide and Seek
- Sack (over head) Races
 
2013-11-03 12:35:06 PM
why are we still fighting them again?
 
2013-11-03 12:37:09 PM
 
2013-11-03 12:42:41 PM

TWX: AverageAmericanGuy: Yeah, no shiat?

If some asshole country came to your house, killed your family and friends, and basically left you with nothing, then that group down the block with the guns and desire for revenge against that country might become just a bit more attractive.

Pretty much. It doesn't take much to remove someone's desire to conform or to follow social rules. Killing people they care about or otherwise taking away the reasons or benefits they have to not lash out would do that to just about anyone. Throw in a few charismatic leaders with their own not-incompatible agendas and it's just a repeat of the kinds of things humans have done forever.

Hell, one can argue that this is actually the norm, and that these static borders and monitored frontiers that we all grew up with are the aberration.


"Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded - here and there, now and then - are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as 'bad luck.'"

/we've made confidence a virtue, and any competence that proves the confidence false a crime
//and we are already falling, and worse, we refuse to understand why, because we want to believe that all cultures are equal and the inequality of results are the real problem that must be forcibly altered by national debt and foreign aid
///and it will not work, because not all cultures can be equal, and not even the destruction of the entire human race can make them so
 
2013-11-03 12:48:28 PM
Musical chairs, with music banned isn't really musical chairs.
 
2013-11-03 12:55:28 PM

Tatterdemalian: TWX: AverageAmericanGuy: Yeah, no shiat?

If some asshole country came to your house, killed your family and friends, and basically left you with nothing, then that group down the block with the guns and desire for revenge against that country might become just a bit more attractive.

Pretty much. It doesn't take much to remove someone's desire to conform or to follow social rules. Killing people they care about or otherwise taking away the reasons or benefits they have to not lash out would do that to just about anyone. Throw in a few charismatic leaders with their own not-incompatible agendas and it's just a repeat of the kinds of things humans have done forever.

Hell, one can argue that this is actually the norm, and that these static borders and monitored frontiers that we all grew up with are the aberration.

"Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded - here and there, now and then - are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as 'bad luck.'"

/we've made confidence a virtue, and any competence that proves the confidence false a crime
//and we are already falling, and worse, we refuse to understand why, because we want to believe that all cultures are equal and the inequality of results are the real problem that must be forcibly altered by national debt and foreign aid
///and it will not work, because not all cultures can be equal, and not even the destruction of the entire human race can make them so


-Robert A Heinlein

Don't confuse science fiction with measurable things, poverty has never been overcome by the  "...extremely small minority ..."

MorboSOCIETYDOESNTWORKLIKETHAT.jpg
 
2013-11-03 12:59:15 PM
They put the 'fun' in 'fundamentalist'.
 
2013-11-03 01:02:51 PM

albatros183: Don't confuse science fiction with measurable things, poverty has never been overcome by the  "...extremely small minority ..."

MorboSOCIETYDOESNTWORKLIKETHAT.jpg


Yes, it does. If it didn't, we wouldn't keep looking to charismatic individuals to give us direction.

/and every society does it, with "leaderless anarchist" societies doing it fastest and most destructively of all
//democracy isn't unique in this regard, only in the fact that it audits the leaders' actual support through the popular vote before granting them authority
 
2013-11-03 01:09:29 PM

spawn73: Musical chairs, with music banned isn't really musical chairs.


www.chicagoreader.com
Not RLY
 
2013-11-03 01:26:54 PM
Therefore corporations are terrorists.
 
2013-11-03 01:34:03 PM

ReverendJynxed: Therefore corporations are terrorists.


In exactly the same way that you are Edward Snowden.

/you know who else ate sugar?
 
2013-11-03 02:11:48 PM
A lot of them are a byproduct of ignorance, poverty, violence, and repressive regimes.

Luckily, we are capable of killing them quicker than they can radicalize.
 
2013-11-03 02:26:17 PM

LewDux: why are we still fighting them again?


These are new ones.
 
2013-11-03 02:31:58 PM
 
2013-11-03 02:34:46 PM
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FTFA: Other events included  musical chairs, rope-balancing and motorcycle riding....Football and music are banned and women have to cover their faces in public or face a lashing.

This should suggest to all that the Daily Fail is not particularly well-versed in parsing out various legal aspects of Islamic codes of conduct as applied and interpreted by any given group. What they probably mean is music "that is viewed as foreign to Somalian culture or too secular in nature."
 
2013-11-03 02:53:49 PM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 634x423]

FTFA: Other events included  musical chairs, rope-balancing and motorcycle riding....Football and music are banned and women have to cover their faces in public or face a lashing.

This should suggest to all that the Daily Fail is not particularly well-versed in parsing out various legal aspects of Islamic codes of conduct as applied and interpreted by any given group. What they probably mean is music "that is viewed as foreign to Somalian culture or too secular in nature."


That circle of chairs would be a great target for a Hellfire missile.

Missed oppotyunity.
 
2013-11-03 02:54:11 PM
Egg and spoon race?

I take it the Camel and the bomb races didn't bode to well for the new recruits.
 
2013-11-03 04:00:44 PM
Looks they're trying to maintain a loyal following by entertaining their recruits before uniting them in opposition against a particular demographic. That really is different from us. The US military does it the other way around, with a large volunteer base that's already been exposed to propaganda through mass media, uniting them in their cause. For a terrorist group trying to operate in a smaller population, and trying to hook 'em young (kind of like the tobacco industry), I can see how they'd want to create a sense of camaraderie - it's a lot easier to get friends to do the dirty work than volunteers.
 
2013-11-03 10:47:44 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Yeah, no shiat?

If some asshole country came to your house, killed your family and friends, and basically left you with nothing, then that group down the block with the guns and desire for revenge against that country might become just a bit more attractive.


Don't be an asshole.  There are many things I disagree with, but I don't go around blowing up my fellow countrymen because of what someone halfway around the world did.

Based on your logic there should be a bunch of French and British people doing suicide bombings in Berlin because of the whole war the Nazis started way back when.

Or maybe they would just be setting those bombs off in Paris or London.

And the headline is stupid.  I haven't played musical chairs since I was about 5 years old and I've ever done an egg and spoon race.

What had the people in Kenya ever done to deserve the Westgate Mall terrorist event?  Those were people just going about their lives.  Why was Al Shabaab killing children there?  Did those children kill Al Shabaab's family and friends?  Did those children run the country?

Look, you can criticize the US drone strikes all you want, but it does not justify terrorism and terrorism started long before drones ever existed.

If the US and all other countries suddenly pulled back their armed forces to their home soil and said "fark it, we are now isolationist", it wouldn't stop groups like Al Shabaab from storming malls and killing innocent civilians.
 
2013-11-03 11:45:21 PM
Schedule of Activities - Mohammed S. Mohammed Memorial Stadium:

Tuesday, egg/spoon race (families welcome).

Wednesday, decapitation of infidels & apostates (families welcome).
 
2013-11-04 07:58:21 AM

gfid: Look, you can criticize the US drone strikes all you want, but it does not justify terrorism and terrorism started long before drones ever existed.


But if you justify drones on that basis, then Israel's existence is also justified, and we've convinced ourselves Israel is full of Zionazis, therefore you must be wrong.

/we have to silence the deniers, because their denialism destroys the magic of social justice
 
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