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(WFTV Orlando)   Burger King robbed by man with an assault rifle. That seems an excessive amount of firepower just to get $89 and a Whopper   (wftv.com) divider line 102
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2013-11-03 11:54:13 AM
So you're going to risk armed robbery and you pick BK as your target?  His clothes probably cost more than the register contents.
 
2013-11-03 12:07:39 PM
>$900 rifle (assuming it wasn't a .22 or airsoft, which I think is a much stronger likelihood than an actual "assault rifle") and you knock off a BK?

He must be one of those idiots who panic bought his AR at triple the market price and is now desperate for rent money.
 
2013-11-03 12:19:19 PM
Really, who robs a Burger King? Did he just watch Pulp Fiction and take Ringo's reasoning about robbing restaurants to heart? I guess it was somewhat smart to rob it at 11:00 pm, they might have had some decent money collected.

Does anyone get away with robbing anything anymore, with cameras everywhere covering everything?
 
2013-11-03 12:27:34 PM
Well, that was a big mistake

/that Whopper is going to take two hands
 
2013-11-03 12:39:20 PM

Mugato: Does anyone get away with robbing anything anymore, with cameras everywhere covering everything?


Is this a serious question?
 
2013-11-03 12:45:39 PM
 I'm warning you. I will be forced to thrash you.
 
2013-11-03 12:46:22 PM

Mugato: Really, who robs a Burger King? Did he just watch Pulp Fiction and take Ringo's reasoning about robbing restaurants to heart? I guess it was somewhat smart to rob it at 11:00 pm, they might have had some decent money collected.

Does anyone get away with robbing anything anymore, with cameras everywhere covering everything?


Cameras are surprisingly ineffective.

Over in the UK they spent BILLIONS install CCTV pretty much *everywhere*.  But it had little to no effect on crime rates or increased rates of finding suspects.  You can go on YouTube and find all sorts of videos of people stealing stuff, and it's generally some generic looking guy in a hoodie.

Even banks, which should have way more security than a Burger King have pretty poor track records.  This is a few years old, but...
http://www.redding.com/news/2009/jul/12/fbi-report-most-bank-robbers -g et-away-with-it/

Only 40% of suspects were caught.  And, while I don't have exact numbers, a lot of people are still getting caught by running their mouths off or buying stuff they couldn't afford and someone reporting them.
 
2013-11-03 12:47:45 PM
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/approves
 
2013-11-03 12:48:47 PM
This is how it's done: you start off with a less powerful weapon and trade up for a more lethal one.
Whoppers have probably contributed to more deaths than any AR's

/BTW, how are the new fries?
 
2013-11-03 12:52:10 PM
Who even goes to Burger King any more?

I stopped at one for breakfast a while back with my oldest son... nobody else there at 7:30am on a weekday. Drove over the interstate and the McDonalds was PACKED. The drive-thru lane was backed out to the road.

WTF?

They just remodeled our town's BK, as well, adding those "million combination" soda machines, yet I rarely see more than 2 cars in the parking lot, and there is never a wait in the drive-thru. I don't do BK or McDs much, preferring to go to Rally's, Culvers or pretty much anywhere else, but between the two, I can't see any reason to put up with the long lines and crowds at McDs just to get their tasteless pap.
 
2013-11-03 12:54:02 PM
All he wanted was breakfast.
 
2013-11-03 12:58:17 PM

LesserEvil: Who even goes to Burger King any more?

I stopped at one for breakfast a while back with my oldest son... nobody else there at 7:30am on a weekday. Drove over the interstate and the McDonalds was PACKED. The drive-thru lane was backed out to the road.

WTF?


It's the same way here, too.  The last time I went to BK was when Sandy's tail knocked out some power lines and everything on the part of the street with decent fast food (Chinese place and Subway, mainly) was out, leaving McD and BK.  McD's was a line halfway around the block, nobody was at BK.

Yep.  The food still tastes burnt and flavorless and the coffee still tastes like some sort of cleaning solution, like they don't rinse the machines out after washing them.
 
2013-11-03 01:00:30 PM

CrackpipeCardozo: Mugato: Does anyone get away with robbing anything anymore, with cameras everywhere covering everything?

Is this a serious question?


Fun fact of the day, Crackpipe:  Media doesn't report when Robberies are successful.  It doesn't help their cause to instill fear in the general public that crime is bad.

Now I'm not sure about Armed Robberies in general, but the FBI database shows you the percentage of Bank Robbery arrests.  And I'm sure you'd be very surprised to find out that a whopping 60% of Bank Robberies get away with it clean and clear.  Never an arrest.  The media isn't going to report that.  You'd have a slew of bank robberies every freaking day.  The question really becomes:  Is that 60% worth the 10-15 years in jail?  For me that is a resounding "NO".
 
2013-11-03 01:01:26 PM
If I was there, I'd offer him 300 bucks for the rifle. Much better take than what he got.

/talked to someone who worked at KFC that got robbed for 40 bucks and a bucket of chicken.
 
2013-11-03 01:01:42 PM
Still no love for the Mini-14 I see.  I really think our nation's psychos should at least give it a chance.  If it doesn't produce sufficient carnage and hysteria then I'll defer to the AR but I think it would get the job done. Just sayin.
 
2013-11-03 01:01:50 PM
I go to BK's maybe once a year on average, just to switch things up.

Mister Peejay: the coffee still tastes like some sort of cleaning solution, like they don't rinse the machines out after washing them.


Once in college I got cranberry juice out a juice machine in the dining hall, and it smelled like over-chlorinated pool water. Yum.

Definitely didn't drink it.
 
2013-11-03 01:05:57 PM

Fark It: >$900 rifle (assuming it wasn't a .22 or airsoft, which I think is a much stronger likelihood than an actual "assault rifle") and you knock off a BK?

He must be one of those idiots who panic bought his AR at triple the market price and is now desperate for rent money.


Don't you remember Jesus and the assault rifles and Whoppers parable?

Give a man a Whopper and he'll eat for a day. Teach him to rob restaurants and give him an assault rifle, and at worst he'll probably have three hots and a cot for a long time.
 
2013-11-03 01:11:38 PM
wait, so they interviewed someone who has purchased burger king before, but wasn't even there at the time of the robbery? that's some excellent journalism right there.
 
2013-11-03 01:12:15 PM

Sid_6.7: Fark It: >$900 rifle (assuming it wasn't a .22 or airsoft, which I think is a much stronger likelihood than an actual "assault rifle") and you knock off a BK?

He must be one of those idiots who panic bought his AR at triple the market price and is now desperate for rent money.

Don't you remember Jesus and the assault rifles and Whoppers parable?

Give a man a Whopper and he'll eat for a day. Teach him to rob restaurants and give him an assault rifle, and at worst he'll probably have three hots and a cot for a long time.


What if he robs a BK with an AR-15?
 
2013-11-03 01:14:58 PM
$5 says that the "assault rifle" in question was actually a airsoft gun
 
2013-11-03 01:17:44 PM

LesserEvil: Who even goes to Burger King any more?

I stopped at one for breakfast a while back with my oldest son... nobody else there at 7:30am on a weekday. Drove over the interstate and the McDonalds was PACKED. The drive-thru lane was backed out to the road.

WTF?

They just remodeled our town's BK, as well, adding those "million combination" soda machines, yet I rarely see more than 2 cars in the parking lot, and there is never a wait in the drive-thru. I don't do BK or McDs much, preferring to go to Rally's, Culvers or pretty much anywhere else, but between the two, I can't see any reason to put up with the long lines and crowds at McDs just to get their tasteless pap.


I know, right?  Last time I went to a Burger King was after an appearance as a witness in a judicial-type hearing that went about 3 hours past lunchtime.  So I was starving.  Went to the BK and ordered the biggest, juiciest, greasiest burger they had displayed on the menu.  It was a sad, joyless and nearly tasteless little thing that they served.

/last time I tried to stop at McD's, a busload of elderly people had just arrived, all of them just like the grandparents on "Christmas Vacation"
 
2013-11-03 01:18:09 PM

Abox: Still no love for the Mini-14 I see.  I really think our nation's psychos should at least give it a chance.  If it doesn't produce sufficient carnage and hysteria then I'll defer to the AR but I think it would get the job done. Just sayin.


Get the one with the fun switch. Proven effective!
 
2013-11-03 01:24:18 PM
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2013-11-03 01:34:58 PM
Whopper > Big Mac times a million.


It's just a better sandwich, period.
 
2013-11-03 01:36:16 PM
They should of made him shoot the ice-cream machine before giving him anything.
 
2013-11-03 01:38:34 PM

iheartscotch: $5 says that the "assault rifle" in question was actually a airsoft gun


But it was black and scary.  It MUST have been an "assault rifle"

Despite "assault rifle" being something usually capable of automatic fire which has only been used in crime once in a blue moon since Capone's day
 
2013-11-03 01:59:57 PM
Another incident where an innocent assault rifle was misused by an idiot to rob someone.
Things like this only give guns / rifles a bad name.
 
2013-11-03 02:02:43 PM

AngryDragon: iheartscotch: $5 says that the "assault rifle" in question was actually a airsoft gun

But it was black and scary.  It MUST have been an "assault rifle"

Despite "assault rifle" being something usually capable of automatic fire which has only been used in crime once in a blue moon since Capone's day


Yeah; I'd question the ability of any person robbing BK to acquire an actual firearm; of any description. The max you're going to get is, maybe, in the $150 range.

/ From the looks of the barrel; that could be a scar-L. The barrel looks a little long to be an AR. But, in either case, you'd see the bottom of the magazine sticking out. I suppose it could be one of those Beretta CX-4s.
 
2013-11-03 02:03:38 PM
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/"What's it like being a rocket scientist?"
 
2013-11-03 02:06:39 PM

AngryDragon: But it was black and scary.  It MUST have been an "assault rifle"

Despite "assault rifle" being something usually capable of automatic fire which has only been used in crime once in a blue moon since Capone's day


Assault Rifle is a general term for anything descended from the STG-44 rifle which the US and Russia based their AR-10/15 and AK-47/74 platforms from, and which features certain design and engineering functions derived from that.

It does NOT have to be a fully automatic rifle, per the literal definition.

/pedant moment.
 
2013-11-03 02:07:20 PM
I propose "semi-assault rifle".
 
2013-11-03 02:09:51 PM

AngryDragon: Despite "assault rifle" being something usually capable of automatic fire which has only been used in crime once in a blue moon since Capone's day


Also, since we're being pedantic at the moment, the Thompson submachine gun and the Browning Automatic Rifle would NOT be examples of assault weapons, since they predate the STG-44 design and many of it's features. They would technically be closer to the classical definition of Machine Gun.
 
2013-11-03 02:17:45 PM

hardinparamedic: AngryDragon: But it was black and scary.  It MUST have been an "assault rifle"

Despite "assault rifle" being something usually capable of automatic fire which has only been used in crime once in a blue moon since Capone's day

Assault Rifle is a general term for anything descended from the STG-44 rifle which the US and Russia based their AR-10/15 and AK-47/74 platforms from, and which features certain design and engineering functions derived from that.

It does NOT have to be a fully automatic rifle, per the literal definition.

/pedant moment.


It can be select fire. The point he is trying to make is that there is a .0000001% chance that the gun the guy used could be classified as an assault rifle.
 
2013-11-03 02:20:06 PM

redmid17: It can be select fire. The point he is trying to make is that there is a .0000001% chance that the gun the guy used could be classified as an assault rifle.


True, it can be select fire, but it can also be semi-automatic. It's kind of a pedantic argument I'm having here rather than a practical application.

Really, depending on the aftermarket stock and sighting equipment, a Mini-14/30, Ruger 10/22, or M1 Carbine can be turned into an "assault rifle". It's a misnomer to label guns as such
 
2013-11-03 02:23:14 PM

hardinparamedic: redmid17: It can be select fire. The point he is trying to make is that there is a .0000001% chance that the gun the guy used could be classified as an assault rifle.

True, it can be select fire, but it can also be semi-automatic. It's kind of a pedantic argument I'm having here rather than a practical application.

Really, depending on the aftermarket stock and sighting equipment, a Mini-14/30, Ruger 10/22, or M1 Carbine can be turned into an "assault rifle". It's a misnomer to label guns as such


I have yet to see any definition of an assault rifle which allows for semi-auto only.
 
2013-11-03 02:23:29 PM
"Assault rifle" and "assault weapon" are two different terms.
An assault rifle is a military term referring to a rifle that fires in intermediate cartridge and is select-fire.  (i.e. can be fully automatic)
An assault weapon is a political term referring to any firearm that has scary features.
 
2013-11-03 02:25:43 PM

hardinparamedic: AngryDragon: But it was black and scary.  It MUST have been an "assault rifle"

Despite "assault rifle" being something usually capable of automatic fire which has only been used in crime once in a blue moon since Capone's day

Assault Rifle is a general term for anything descended from the STG-44 rifle which the US and Russia based their AR-10/15 and AK-47/74 platforms from, and which features certain design and engineering functions derived from that.

It does NOT have to be a fully automatic rifle, per the literal definition.

/pedant moment.


Anything descendent from an STG-44, huh?

Well, the FN-Fal is a direct descendent. But, if I remember right, the Kalashnikov model 1947 was in development before the finish of the Second World War.

And I'm not sure you could argue that ARs are descendent from STG-44s. They are similar; but ARs aren't designed as well. Too many little parts.
 
2013-11-03 02:26:32 PM

sleep lack: /approves


Just wanted some breakfast at 10:31
 
2013-11-03 02:27:28 PM

Mister Peejay: LesserEvil: Who even goes to Burger King any more?

I stopped at one for breakfast a while back with my oldest son... nobody else there at 7:30am on a weekday. Drove over the interstate and the McDonalds was PACKED. The drive-thru lane was backed out to the road.

WTF?

It's the same way here, too.  The last time I went to BK was when Sandy's tail knocked out some power lines and everything on the part of the street with decent fast food (Chinese place and Subway, mainly) was out, leaving McD and BK.  McD's was a line halfway around the block, nobody was at BK.

Yep.  The food still tastes burnt and flavorless and the coffee still tastes like some sort of cleaning solution, like they don't rinse the machines out after washing them.


I think Subway still takes top honors for tasteless.  I have no clue how they're so popular, especially when there are other sub chains that put out vastly superior products, not to mention independent delis and sandwich shops.

McD's lines make some sense in the morning, their breakfast offerings are far superior to BK's, but otherwise, yeah, I go every now and again when they have the 99 cent 6 piece nugget deal on, but otherwise it's a pass.
 
2013-11-03 02:27:33 PM

iheartscotch: the Kalashnikov model 1947 was in development before the finish of the Second World War.


I might be wrong, but IIRC the 47 was a combination of Russian and German engineering from captured models of the 44. I know the SKS rifle system was in development before the finish of the Second World War.

And you have a point about the ARs not being designed well. My grandfather used to tell me stories about them abandoning them in Vietnam and picking up AK-47s off the soldiers. Apparantly this was not uncommon early in the war.
 
2013-11-03 02:37:17 PM
willfullyobscure:   Whopper > Big Mac times a million.


It's just a better sandwich, period.


Whopper is better than McDonalds burgers.  I totally agree.  But everything else for BK sucks worse than McD. McD's coffee, fries and b-fast items are much better.

Anyhow, we have in-n-out here.  So I'm not doing either for lunch.

/wait is this a gun thread or a burger thread?... seems more of the former.
 
2013-11-03 02:39:33 PM
MythDragon:

/talked to someone who worked at KFC that got robbed for 40 bucks and a bucket of chicken.


Sunken-eyed girl on Delancey Street,
Bulletproof glass in the KFC to
Keep the man safe in his paper hat
Keep the wrong hands off the biscuit fortune...
 
2013-11-03 02:39:58 PM

SirEattonHogg: willfullyobscure:   Whopper > Big Mac times a million.


It's just a better sandwich, period.

Whopper is better than McDonalds burgers.  I totally agree.  But everything else for BK sucks worse than McD. McD's coffee, fries and b-fast items are much better.

Anyhow, we have in-n-out here.  So I'm not doing either for lunch.

/wait is this a gun thread or a burger thread?... seems more of the former.


Agreed. Burger porn thread?

foodporndaily.com
 
2013-11-03 02:47:58 PM

hardinparamedic: iheartscotch: the Kalashnikov model 1947 was in development before the finish of the Second World War.

I might be wrong, but IIRC the 47 was a combination of Russian and German engineering from captured models of the 44. I know the SKS rifle system was in development before the finish of the Second World War.

And you have a point about the ARs not being designed well. My grandfather used to tell me stories about them abandoning them in Vietnam and picking up AK-47s off the soldiers. Apparantly this was not uncommon early in the war.


There are some similar features; but, the design was definitely Mikhail Kalashnikov's. The sks was developed and deployed in 1943 on into the 50's. Kalashnikov started developing the 47 around 1944; and it was deployed in 1947.

The differences between a STG-44 and an Ak-47 are: the 44 was chambered in 7.62 kurts(7.62x33mm), the 47 in 7.62x39mm. The 44 contained more machined parts; the 47 was almost completely made out of stamped metal. The 44 had no for arm; the 47 has one. The end of a barrel of a 44 is round, the 47 is cut diagonally (theory being it helps disperse the flash). The 44 was very accurate; you can find accurate 47s but, they are not a designated marksmen's weapon.

There are a couple others I'm forgetting

/ originally, ARs were temperamental; they need to be cleaned a lot more than other contemporary guns; like the ak47 or m-14 . It took a unauthorized letter from a GI to a congressman to fix the problem.
 
2013-11-03 02:53:57 PM

CrackpipeCardozo: Mugato: Does anyone get away with robbing anything anymore, with cameras everywhere covering everything?

Is this a serious question?


==========

Ask the guys at Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc.
 
2013-11-03 02:55:51 PM

Mugato: Really, who robs a Burger King?


Wanted for questioning:
3.bp.blogspot.com
Also suspected of getting busy in the bathroom.
 
2013-11-03 03:01:28 PM
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I'm first, really? It's a shotgun...fast food...and a stick-up!
 
2013-11-03 03:01:29 PM

Fissile: CrackpipeCardozo: Mugato: Does anyone get away with robbing anything anymore, with cameras everywhere covering everything?

Is this a serious question?

==========

Ask the guys at Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc.


Well obviously I was referring to stick up robberies. The people you refer to are untouchable, minus a token fine here or there.
 
2013-11-03 03:03:59 PM

ciberido: Mugato: Really, who robs a Burger King?

Wanted for questioning:
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240]
Also suspected of getting busy in the bathroom.


His biggest crime was participating in "Nothing But Trouble", the Dan Akroyd/Chevy Chase/Demi Moore  vehicle.
 
2013-11-03 03:09:26 PM

Mayor_of_Simpleton: MythDragon:

/talked to someone who worked at KFC that got robbed for 40 bucks and a bucket of chicken.


Sunken-eyed girl on Delancey Street,
Bulletproof glass in the KFC to
Keep the man safe in his paper hat
Keep the wrong hands off the biscuit fortune...


Thanks, I'd never heard of Mike Doughty, downloading a few albums on Xbox Music now.
 
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