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2013-11-03 11:35:21 AM  
Huh. Well there's something you don't see every day.
 
2013-11-03 11:55:19 AM  
if only Israel would silence it's radicals.
 
2013-11-03 11:57:47 AM  

Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals realize it's being used by the US Right Wing as the set up for the biggest right wing religious snuff fantasy film since the Passion.


FTFY.

 
2013-11-03 12:04:01 PM  

pueblonative: Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals realize it's being used by the US Right Wing as the set up for the biggest right wing religious snuff fantasy film since the Passion.


FTFY.


They actively court it.

And everytime Netanyahu starts sucking in the polls he has to jump out and say "OOGAH BOOGAH IRAN IS GONNA HAVE A NUKE IN 6 MONTHS" like every Israeli PM since the 80s. They've been months away from a weapon for 30 years now.
 
2013-11-03 12:06:47 PM  
I vote we create a new country called redneckistan.  Create north and south and build a big ass wall to protect them from each other.  In the center 1/3 is a free for all zone.  In the free for all zone is a giant flagpole.  The current flag flying on the flagpole represents who the world recognizes as leading redneckistan.  The current leading group gets a free broadcast station which runs 24/7 on pay per view for the rest of the world.  Weekly care packages of food, medical supplies and guns are dropped on both sides, partially funded by pay per view and partially provided by the savings the rest of all of us get from not having to pay gigantic military costs.  Any attempt to build a navy, Air Force or commerce that leaves the country is met with unilateral bombing.  All people engaging in talk where "Obummer is a seekrut mooslim" or talk about 75 virgins gets them a one way ticket.

Problem solved.
 
2013-11-03 12:07:00 PM  

pueblonative: Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals realize it's being used by the US Right Wing as the set up for the biggest right wing religious snuff fantasy film since the Passion.


FTFY.


THIS! I can't tell you how pissed off I am at fellow Jews saying that we need to have "Christian support" when the only thing these evangelists actually support about Israel is their Armageddon occurring in our lifetimes.  I have a feeling that one day their pastors will just declare that "Jews for Jesus" and other Christian groups that pretend to be Jewish as the "fulfilled Jews", clearing the way for their hatred of Jews to be able to be espoused again.
 
2013-11-03 12:07:39 PM  

Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals.


Citizens United v FEC prevents that.
 
2013-11-03 12:13:24 PM  

me texan: I vote we create a new country called redneckistan.  Create north and south and build a big ass wall to protect them from each other.  In the center 1/3 is a free for all zone.  In the free for all zone is a giant flagpole.  The current flag flying on the flagpole represents who the world recognizes as leading redneckistan.  The current leading group gets a free broadcast station which runs 24/7 on pay per view for the rest of the world.  Weekly care packages of food, medical supplies and guns are dropped on both sides, partially funded by pay per view and partially provided by the savings the rest of all of us get from not having to pay gigantic military costs.  Any attempt to build a navy, Air Force or commerce that leaves the country is met with unilateral bombing.  All people engaging in talk where "Obummer is a seekrut mooslim" or talk about 75 virgins gets them a one way ticket.

Problem solved.


Will the guns be delivered in a giant flying stone head?
 
2013-11-03 12:18:27 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals.

Citizens United v FEC prevents that.


That's farkin funny, astute and cynical as hell.  I like it.
 
2013-11-03 12:19:35 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals.

Citizens United v FEC prevents that.


When was Mossad bound by US Court decisions?
 
2013-11-03 12:23:57 PM  

pueblonative: UNC_Samurai: Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals.

Citizens United v FEC prevents that.

When was Mossad bound by US Court decisions?


static.comicvine.com
 
2013-11-03 12:29:07 PM  
I know this going to make me unpopular, but I do think Khamenei has a point regarding the entire 'enemy who smiles' thing.  A show of good faith would probably got a lot further than threats of military action at this stage in negotiations.  Just my .02.
 
2013-11-03 01:02:34 PM  
I gotta know, when we're called the "great satan," do they mean satan like "adversary," or do they mean "they guy who lead 1/3 of the angels in a great revolt against the Christian God in a time before time and waiting for horns to blow and chalices to be drained before he is set loose upon the earth for an appointed time?"
 
2013-11-03 01:03:42 PM  
"We should not trust an enemy who smiles," Khamenei said. "From one side the Americans smile and express a desire to negotiate, and from another side they immediately say all options are on the table."

I wish we'd stop saying that. I wish we'd say something like "You know what? As long as you're not militarily engaged against our interests, then we won't engage militarily either. We'd rather talk than fight too. So let's talk."

If we decide we "need" to attack later, it doesn't really farking matter what we've "said." We just go ahead and do it. This continual posturing-while-doing-nothing isn't helping.

/There are powerful factions that have wanted war with Iran since at least the 1970s. I'm aware of this.
 
2013-11-03 01:05:07 PM  

pueblonative: Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals realize it's being used by the US Right Wing as the set up for the biggest right wing religious snuff fantasy film since the Passion.


FTFY.


I believe the Israeli response would be something like "Who gives a shiat what some American mouthbreathers think is prophecied to happen to us? It isn't going to happen. Why should we stop taking the money of retards?"
 
2013-11-03 01:10:24 PM  

Tripp Johnston Private Eye: pueblonative: Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals realize it's being used by the US Right Wing as the set up for the biggest right wing religious snuff fantasy film since the Passion.


FTFY.

I believe the Israeli response would be something like "Who gives a shiat what some American mouthbreathers think is prophecied to happen to us? It isn't going to happen. Why should we stop taking the money of retards?"


Yeah, what happens when the mouthbreathing retards get impatient waiting for the end times and decide to kickstart them?
 
2013-11-03 01:12:12 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: I wish we'd stop saying that. I wish we'd say something like "You know what? As long as you're not militarily engaged against our interests, then we won't engage militarily either. We'd rather talk than fight too. So let's talk."

If we decide we "need" to attack later, it doesn't really farking matter what we've "said." We just go ahead and do it. This continual posturing-while-doing-nothing isn't helping.


Along similar lines, I hated the "do these things and then we can start talking" bit we did about a decade ago.  The right to negotiate with us shouldn't be, itself, a bargaining chip.
 
2013-11-03 01:21:15 PM  

gnosis301: I gotta know, when we're called the "great satan," do they mean satan like "adversary," or do they mean "they guy who lead 1/3 of the angels in a great revolt against the Christian God in a time before time and waiting for horns to blow and chalices to be drained before he is set loose upon the earth for an appointed time?"


Neither, really. A more accurate translation would be The Great Deceiver, which fits a lot more closely.
 
2013-11-03 01:22:29 PM  

pueblonative: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: pueblonative: Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals realize it's being used by the US Right Wing as the set up for the biggest right wing religious snuff fantasy film since the Passion.


FTFY.

I believe the Israeli response would be something like "Who gives a shiat what some American mouthbreathers think is prophecied to happen to us? It isn't going to happen. Why should we stop taking the money of retards?"

Yeah, what happens when the mouthbreathing retards get impatient waiting for the end times and decide to kickstart them?


Ah, then we're getting into an interesting theological topic: premillennialism versus postmillennialism. Most of the right wing herpaderps are premillennialists, meaning they don't think a person, group, or society can bring about the return of Christ and that his return will just happen regardless of what people do. If there's a huge theological shift to postmillennialism, then I would be extremely worried if I was Israeli.

But seriously, as disgusting and evil the occupation is, why shouldn't the Israelis take the money of people who use their bellicose support of Israel as a mask for their deep anti-semitism? It's more no strings attached support.
 
2013-11-03 01:39:43 PM  
Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.
 
2013-11-03 01:42:57 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: pueblonative: UNC_Samurai: Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals.

Citizens United v FEC prevents that.

When was Mossad bound by US Court decisions?

[static.comicvine.com image 318x335]


I get the joke.  Just pointing out that if Israel really wanted to shut up the radicals on its side and actually get down to a workable peace, Sheldon Cuddlefish would be pushing daises by the end of the week.
 
2013-11-03 01:44:26 PM  

Tripp Johnston Private Eye: But seriously, as disgusting and evil the occupation is, why shouldn't the Israelis take the money of people who use their bellicose support of Israel as a mask for their deep anti-semitism? It's more no strings attached support.


Because they're pushed to positions which isolate them more and more from any moderate support in the middle east and make it easier and easier for the radical terrorists to raise money and guns on their side.
 
2013-11-03 01:49:24 PM  

pueblonative: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: But seriously, as disgusting and evil the occupation is, why shouldn't the Israelis take the money of people who use their bellicose support of Israel as a mask for their deep anti-semitism? It's more no strings attached support.

Because they're pushed to positions which isolate them more and more from any moderate support in the middle east and make it easier and easier for the radical terrorists to raise money and guns on their side.


The Israelis are done with trying to seek out a moderate position. They want to engineer a permanent Jewish demographic majority in Israeli territory. There's no moderate or rational way to do that. They either commit ethnic cleansing or they slowly fade away. It's utterly disgusting, but hey, what the hell were they thinking a colonial project like this would turn out like?
 
2013-11-03 01:51:50 PM  

Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.


They know suckers when they seem em.
 
2013-11-03 01:53:30 PM  

Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.


As opposed to being lead by the nose by Israeli leadership.
 
2013-11-03 01:59:35 PM  

Tripp Johnston Private Eye: pueblonative: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: But seriously, as disgusting and evil the occupation is, why shouldn't the Israelis take the money of people who use their bellicose support of Israel as a mask for their deep anti-semitism? It's more no strings attached support.

Because they're pushed to positions which isolate them more and more from any moderate support in the middle east and make it easier and easier for the radical terrorists to raise money and guns on their side.

The Israelis are done with trying to seek out a moderate position. They want to engineer a permanent Jewish demographic majority in Israeli territory. There's no moderate or rational way to do that. They either commit ethnic cleansing or they slowly fade away. It's utterly disgusting, but hey, what the hell were they thinking a colonial project like this would turn out like?


Which is kinda ironic, considering the fact that Israel was started as a secular state, not a religious one.
 
2013-11-03 02:04:30 PM  

LargeCanine: Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.

They know suckers when they seem em.


Useful idiots. just like the right wingers in the US voting the neocons into power in 2000. bad for foreign and domestic policies.
 
2013-11-03 02:06:52 PM  

Hobodeluxe: LargeCanine: Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.

They know suckers when they seem em.

Useful idiots. just like the right wingers in the US voting the neocons into power in 2000. bad for foreign and domestic policies.


Considering what those idiots are doing to our government, I would consider their utilitarian value to be short term and a net negative when compared to the overall destructiveness.
 
2013-11-03 02:07:22 PM  

Hobodeluxe: LargeCanine: Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.

They know suckers when they seem em.

Useful idiots. just like the right wingers in the US voting the neocons into power in 2000. bad for foreign and domestic policies.


Hey now, they're brave, strong, and independent minded people who happen to do and believe whatever neocons tell them to, you stupid lib.
 
2013-11-03 02:11:49 PM  

pueblonative: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: pueblonative: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: But seriously, as disgusting and evil the occupation is, why shouldn't the Israelis take the money of people who use their bellicose support of Israel as a mask for their deep anti-semitism? It's more no strings attached support.

Because they're pushed to positions which isolate them more and more from any moderate support in the middle east and make it easier and easier for the radical terrorists to raise money and guns on their side.

The Israelis are done with trying to seek out a moderate position. They want to engineer a permanent Jewish demographic majority in Israeli territory. There's no moderate or rational way to do that. They either commit ethnic cleansing or they slowly fade away. It's utterly disgusting, but hey, what the hell were they thinking a colonial project like this would turn out like?

Which is kinda ironic, considering the fact that Israel was started as a secular state, not a religious one.


It is a shame. I imagine I'd have liked going there quite a bit when the state was more secular and led by the Labor Zionists as opposed to the Likudniks. Jewish girls are hot.

/ :(
 
2013-11-03 02:11:58 PM  

grumpfuff: Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.

As opposed to being lead by the nose by Israeli leadership.


Do you believe Iran has no desire for atomic weaponry?

If you answer "yes" then there's no leading needed. Although if you answer "no", then you're just deluding yourself.
 
2013-11-03 02:12:51 PM  

pueblonative: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: pueblonative: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: But seriously, as disgusting and evil the occupation is, why shouldn't the Israelis take the money of people who use their bellicose support of Israel as a mask for their deep anti-semitism? It's more no strings attached support.

Because they're pushed to positions which isolate them more and more from any moderate support in the middle east and make it easier and easier for the radical terrorists to raise money and guns on their side.

The Israelis are done with trying to seek out a moderate position. They want to engineer a permanent Jewish demographic majority in Israeli territory. There's no moderate or rational way to do that. They either commit ethnic cleansing or they slowly fade away. It's utterly disgusting, but hey, what the hell were they thinking a colonial project like this would turn out like?

Which is kinda ironic, considering the fact that Israel was started as a secular state, not a religious one.


While the current climate of Israel is heavily steeped in religious nationalism, ethnicity always was and still is the deciding factor in who is Israeli and who isn't as opposed to how devoutly Jewish one is. Plenty of secular Jews in Israel stand fully behind the religious nationalists on this topic.
 
2013-11-03 02:14:15 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: pueblonative: Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals realize it's being used by the US Right Wing as the set up for the biggest right wing religious snuff fantasy film since the Passion.


FTFY.

They actively court it.

And everytime Netanyahu starts sucking in the polls he has to jump out and say "OOGAH BOOGAH IRAN IS GONNA HAVE A NUKE IN 6 MONTHS" like every Israeli PM since the 80s. They've been months away from a weapon for 30 years now.


That's because the Israeli leadership was really, really good at hampering Iran's progress through surgically accurate strikes.

/amirite?
 
2013-11-03 02:16:23 PM  

Mrbogey: grumpfuff: Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.

As opposed to being lead by the nose by Israeli leadership.

Do you believe Iran has no desire for atomic weaponry?

If you answer "yes" then there's no leading needed. Although if you answer "no", then you're just deluding yourself.


I'll take "Questions I don't have the answer for" for $500, Alex.

/since when did admitting ignorance become a bad thing?
 
2013-11-03 02:25:48 PM  

pueblonative: Cuddlefish


Cuttlefish
 
2013-11-03 02:27:24 PM  

grumpfuff: Mrbogey: grumpfuff: Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.

As opposed to being lead by the nose by Israeli leadership.

Do you believe Iran has no desire for atomic weaponry?

If you answer "yes" then there's no leading needed. Although if you answer "no", then you're just deluding yourself.

I'll take "Questions I don't have the answer for" for $500, Alex.

/since when did admitting ignorance become a bad thing?


Ignorance in nuclear ambitions won't shield you from the effects of it. It's fine to admit you're ignorant but you need to follow it up with an earnest effort to not be. For instance, I don't pretend that Israel isn't a nuclear power. Gov'ts like to pretend but they still act as if the knowledge is out there.

We've done a bang-up job on the covert side keeping Iran from getting nukes. We've surreptitiously sabotaged their efforts across the past decade and hopefully we're still doing so, even though our last major covert effort was discovered a few years back.
 
2013-11-03 02:28:38 PM  
Done in 3.
 
2013-11-03 02:31:48 PM  

grumpfuff: Mrbogey: grumpfuff: Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.

As opposed to being lead by the nose by Israeli leadership.

Do you believe Iran has no desire for atomic weaponry?

If you answer "yes" then there's no leading needed. Although if you answer "no", then you're just deluding yourself.

I'll take "Questions I don't have the answer for" for $500, Alex.

/since when did admitting ignorance become a bad thing?


And, hell, let's even be more honest:  can you blame them for wanting nukes?

Countries without nukes get invaded, countries with them can get away with blowing up anything they want.
 
2013-11-03 02:33:04 PM  

gnosis301: I gotta know, when we're called the "great satan," do they mean satan like "adversary," or do they mean "they guy who lead 1/3 of the angels in a great revolt against the Christian God in a time before time and waiting for horns to blow and chalices to be drained before he is set loose upon the earth for an appointed time?"


Well, in the book of Job, Satan was essentially "the accuser" of man, claiming that if God shiat on Job, he'd curse Him.  Essentially, he's kind of like God's district attorney.  Hence the term "devil's advocate."  And, considering the vast number of lawyers we have in the US, calling us "the Great Satan" isn't a far stretch.
 
2013-11-03 02:35:15 PM  
It's official:  The Ayatollah of Iran is more rational than the Tea Party.
 
2013-11-03 02:35:38 PM  
Can we send our religious hard liners to go play with their religious hard liners, maybe out in the desert somewhere, and both of us agree not to let them out till none of them are standing?
 
2013-11-03 02:37:10 PM  

Mrbogey: grumpfuff: Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.

As opposed to being lead by the nose by Israeli leadership.

Do you believe Iran has no desire for atomic weaponry?

If you answer "yes" then there's no leading needed. Although if you answer "no", then you're just deluding yourself.


How about "yes and I'm ok with it"? A nuclear Iran means a more stable world.
 
2013-11-03 02:40:18 PM  

Ned Stark: Mrbogey: grumpfuff: Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.

As opposed to being lead by the nose by Israeli leadership.

Do you believe Iran has no desire for atomic weaponry?

If you answer "yes" then there's no leading needed. Although if you answer "no", then you're just deluding yourself.

How about "yes and I'm ok with it"? A nuclear Iran means a more stable world.


I'd believe that if I didn't think they'd try and hand out a couple suitcase nukes to people like Hezbollah...  Again, that could just be "ooga booga" propaganda, but it's plausible enough to be effective propaganda.  ...Although, if Iran did do something like that, and a suitcase nuke was set off in, say, New York, Iran could consider itself pretty much done being a livable landscape.  So, they may not.  Who knows.
 
2013-11-03 02:41:46 PM  

Tripp Johnston Private Eye: pueblonative: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: pueblonative: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: But seriously, as disgusting and evil the occupation is, why shouldn't the Israelis take the money of people who use their bellicose support of Israel as a mask for their deep anti-semitism? It's more no strings attached support.

Because they're pushed to positions which isolate them more and more from any moderate support in the middle east and make it easier and easier for the radical terrorists to raise money and guns on their side.

The Israelis are done with trying to seek out a moderate position. They want to engineer a permanent Jewish demographic majority in Israeli territory. There's no moderate or rational way to do that. They either commit ethnic cleansing or they slowly fade away. It's utterly disgusting, but hey, what the hell were they thinking a colonial project like this would turn out like?

Which is kinda ironic, considering the fact that Israel was started as a secular state, not a religious one.

It is a shame. I imagine I'd have liked going there quite a bit when the state was more secular and led by the Labor Zionists as opposed to the Likudniks. Jewish girls are hot.

/ :(


Cue the Frank Zappa song!
 
2013-11-03 02:42:36 PM  

Mrbogey: grumpfuff: Mrbogey: grumpfuff: Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.

As opposed to being lead by the nose by Israeli leadership.

Do you believe Iran has no desire for atomic weaponry?

If you answer "yes" then there's no leading needed. Although if you answer "no", then you're just deluding yourself.

I'll take "Questions I don't have the answer for" for $500, Alex.

/since when did admitting ignorance become a bad thing?

Ignorance in nuclear ambitions won't shield you from the effects of it. It's fine to admit you're ignorant but you need to follow it up with an earnest effort to not be. For instance, I don't pretend that Israel isn't a nuclear power. Gov'ts like to pretend but they still act as if the knowledge is out there.

We've done a bang-up job on the covert side keeping Iran from getting nukes. We've surreptitiously sabotaged their efforts across the past decade and hopefully we're still doing so, even though our last major covert effort was discovered a few years back.


Seeing as how I can't read the minds of Iran's leaders, there's not much research I can do. Sure, I can read the paper and statements and such, but most of them are blatantly partisan(for example, you). To be honest, Israel having nukes worries me just as much, because Israel has a bit of a hair-trigger sometimes.

I'm sick and tired of the "YOU CAN'T NEGOTIATE WITH THOSE CRAZY BROWN PEOPLE!" angle, however. Maybe, just maybe, if we stopped talking so much shiat about them, and listened to their side for once, and tried to understand their point of view, and maybe even *GASP!* help them out a bit, then maybe, just maybe, they wouldn't hate us so much.

However, everyone involved - Iran, Israel, etc - is also well aware that nuking anyone is not gonna be good PR for them. Iran knows damn well, for example, that if they did build a nuke and launch it at Israel, the ensuing counter-attack (either from Israel or allies) would make Iran all glass-parking-lot-y.
 
2013-11-03 02:49:31 PM  

xanadian: Ned Stark: Mrbogey: grumpfuff: Mrbogey: Lotta people getting lead by the nose by Iranian leadership.

As opposed to being lead by the nose by Israeli leadership.

Do you believe Iran has no desire for atomic weaponry?

If you answer "yes" then there's no leading needed. Although if you answer "no", then you're just deluding yourself.

How about "yes and I'm ok with it"? A nuclear Iran means a more stable world.

I'd believe that if I didn't think they'd try and hand out a couple suitcase nukes to people like Hezbollah...  Again, that could just be "ooga booga" propaganda, but it's plausible enough to be effective propaganda.  ...Although, if Iran did do something like that, and a suitcase nuke was set off in, say, New York, Iran could consider itself pretty much done being a livable landscape.  So, they may not.  Who knows.


It is about as likely as the US handing out a "couple suitcase nukes" to the various terrorist groups the US has supported over the years, ie not at all. It's effective propaganda to people who have the critical thinking ability of Alex Jones.
 
2013-11-03 02:50:09 PM  

pueblonative: Hobodeluxe: if only Israel would silence it's radicals realize it's being used by the US Right Wing as the set up for the biggest right wing religious snuff fantasy film since the Passion.


FTFY.


Hilarious and true, but I'm sure the sentiment goes both ways.

The day all fundie nut jobs get raptured (or whatever their equivalent is) will be the day we finally have peace on earth.
 
2013-11-03 02:53:29 PM  

grumpfuff: Seeing as how I can't read the minds of Iran's leaders, there's not much research I can do


1,The clerics are at least rational enough to have remained in charge of the country for decades.
2. Giving up on nuclear weapons is obvious insanity. Gaddaffi and Saddam gave up on weapons of mass destruction and their countries were destroyed. the Kim-Jongs obtained nuclear weapons and North Korea remains.

given 1 and 2 we can be reasonably certain the clerics want nuclear weapons.
 
2013-11-03 03:03:13 PM  

Ned Stark: grumpfuff: Seeing as how I can't read the minds of Iran's leaders, there's not much research I can do

1,The clerics are at least rational enough to have remained in charge of the country for decades.
2. Giving up on nuclear weapons is obvious insanity. Gaddaffi and Saddam gave up on weapons of mass destruction and their countries were destroyed. the Kim-Jongs obtained nuclear weapons and North Korea remains.

given 1 and 2 we can be reasonably certain the clerics want nuclear weapons.


Israel thinks that if Iran gets nukes it will be destroyed, and will fight tooth and nail against it.
Iran thinks that if it loses its nuke program, 'Murrica and friends will have a field day so it's going to fight tooth and nail for it.

The solution, of course, is to buy stock in Blackwater.
 
2013-11-03 03:05:26 PM  

me texan: I vote we create a new country called redneckistan.  Create north and south and build a big ass wall to protect them from each other.  In the center 1/3 is a free for all zone.  In the free for all zone is a giant flagpole.  The current flag flying on the flagpole represents who the world recognizes as leading redneckistan.  The current leading group gets a free broadcast station which runs 24/7 on pay per view for the rest of the world.  Weekly care packages of food, medical supplies and guns are dropped on both sides, partially funded by pay per view and partially provided by the savings the rest of all of us get from not having to pay gigantic military costs.  Any attempt to build a navy, Air Force or commerce that leaves the country is met with unilateral bombing.  All people engaging in talk where "Obummer is a seekrut mooslim" or talk about 75 virgins gets them a one way ticket.

Problem solved.


The problem with your Redneckistan is that North and South would eventually join. 5 years from now the looters that penned us in would be breaking in and robbing us just to survive. But hey, if you think cordoning us off will solve the problem, go ahead and round us up. Don't worry about dropping in food and weapons. We can make our own.
 
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