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(NFL)   What does the Fox say? He says he'll miss several weeks after a heart procedure and Jack Del Rio will take over as interim head coach of the Broncos. Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow   ( nfl.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Jack Del Rio, Coach Fox, Broncos, head coaches, Albert Breer, procedures, Denver Broncos, heart procedure  
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2013-11-03 09:18:07 AM  
Someone is a bit behind the times at NFL.com...

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2013-11-03 09:34:56 AM  
and the Chiefs' chances of locking up the division just got a little bit better
 
2013-11-03 09:39:18 AM  

AdamK: and the Chiefs' chances of locking up the division just got a little bit better


Football is so centered around injury..  we fans get a bit gleeful when someone tears or breaks something.  even if a fan says they're above it.. they still have that quiet moment where they translate that misfortune to their favorite team's improved chances.  anyone who says otherwise is a pretentious liar.
 
2013-11-03 09:40:33 AM  

AdamK: and the Chiefs' chances of locking up the division just got a little bit better


Go Chiefs!, but I'll wait until Manning needs heart surgery before I bet on them.
 
2013-11-03 09:42:59 AM  
Why didn't they promote Manning to be the interim head coach?
 
2013-11-03 09:43:37 AM  

Go Fornicate Without a Partner: AdamK: and the Chiefs' chances of locking up the division just got a little bit better

Football is so centered around injury..  we fans get a bit gleeful when someone tears or breaks something.  even if a fan says they're above it.. they still have that quiet moment where they translate that misfortune to their favorite team's improved chances.  anyone who says otherwise is a pretentious liar.


i'm not a fan of either team, just being objective
 
2013-11-03 09:59:24 AM  

AdamK: and the Chiefs' chances of locking up the division just got a little bit better


Debatable.  Fox really screwed up the time management (among other things) during last year's playoff game against the Ravens, and Del Rio has had his moments as a Head Coach in the past.

Also, as we saw with last year's Colts, teams can definitely rally around a Head Coach with health issues.
 
2013-11-03 10:13:06 AM  

DoomPaul: Why didn't they promote Manning to be the interim head coach?


He didn't want to take a step down.
 
2013-11-03 10:19:44 AM  

DoomPaul: Why didn't they promote Manning to be the interim head coach?


CBA forbids him from formally having that title.
 
2013-11-03 10:22:19 AM  
How do fix a fox heart?

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2013-11-03 10:25:25 AM  
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"Being the leader of the Denver Burros... It was not chance, amigo... IT WAS MY DESTINY!"

/oh... JACK Del Rio...
 
2013-11-03 10:36:53 AM  
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2013-11-03 10:42:09 AM  

AdamK: and the Chiefs' chances of locking up the division just got a little bit better


Not really.  Manning pretty much coaches himself at this point.

Get well soon Coach.
 
2013-11-03 10:44:49 AM  

AdamK: and the Chiefs' chances of locking up the division just got a little bit better


As a Panthers fan, I disagree with this statement.
 
2013-11-03 10:45:57 AM  

Captain Steroid: [i1182.photobucket.com image 119x100]


Stay gold, Pony Boy.  You guys aren't screwed yet.  Besides, the players seem to like Fox, it could end up being a rallying point for the team to keep them motivated and focused.
 
2013-11-03 11:02:44 AM  

Mentat: Manning pretty much coaches himself at this point.


Except on 4th and 1 at the 45 when Fox punts just to show everyone (especially 18) who runs this goddam team.
 
2013-11-03 11:04:40 AM  
manning and welker aren't known for post season poise.  foxes health won't affect that either way.
 
2013-11-03 11:13:56 AM  
Jack of the River ftw!
 
2013-11-03 11:39:12 AM  

Go Fornicate Without a Partner: manning and welker aren't known for post season poise.  foxes health won't affect that either way.


i.imgur.com

Indeed.
 
2013-11-03 11:53:24 AM  

ArtosRC: Indeed.


Still doesn't make what they said any less true.
 
2013-11-03 12:31:15 PM  

mouse fitzgerald: AdamK: and the Chiefs' chances of locking up the division just got a little bit better

Debatable.  Fox really screwed up the time management (among other things) during last year's playoff game against the Ravens, and Del Rio has had his moments as a Head Coach in the past.

Also, as we saw with last year's Colts, teams can definitely rally around a Head Coach with health issues.


Had his moments in a good way or bad way cause he was a joke of a head coach for the Jags.
 
2013-11-03 12:37:21 PM  

bel4sucks: Still doesn't make what they said any less true.


Oh, but who could ever deny that Super Bowl MVP Peyton Manning has never had playoff success?
 
2013-11-03 12:57:02 PM  

ArtosRC: Oh, but who could ever deny that Super Bowl MVP Peyton Manning has never had playoff success?



No one said that.
 
2013-11-03 12:57:02 PM  

Mentat: AdamK: and the Chiefs' chances of locking up the division just got a little bit better

Not really.  Manning pretty much coaches himself at this point.

Get well soon Coach.


he's the best at running the bar man, but he's not steering the ship... that's all in the hands of the guy who created the jags dumpster fire now
 
2013-11-03 01:08:04 PM  

AdamK: Mentat: AdamK: and the Chiefs' chances of locking up the division just got a little bit better

Not really.  Manning pretty much coaches himself at this point.

Get well soon Coach.

he's the best at running the bar man, but he's not steering the ship... that's all in the hands of the guy who created the jags dumpster fire now


Sometimes you just gotta keep chopping wood.
 
2013-11-03 01:10:08 PM  

bel4sucks: No one said that.


Kinda quoted it.
 
2013-11-03 01:22:14 PM  

AdamK: and the Chiefs' chances of locking up the division just got a little bit better


Pretty bold statement considering they haven't played their two games with the Broncos yet.

Not saying the Broncos are a lock (they'll probably split the two games), but there's plenty of time for the Chiefs to realize they're the 2000s Chiefs.
 
2013-11-03 01:34:46 PM  

ArtosRC: bel4sucks: No one said that.

Kinda quoted it.


You did.  Here's the quote:

Go Fornicate Without a Partner: manning and welker aren't known for post season poise. foxes health won't affect that either way.

The quote is accurate.  While Manning does have a Super Bowl ring and another appearance, the knock on him is that he's been to the post season 11 times and only won at least one game in four of those post seasons for an overall 9-11 record.  And hate to break it to you, but the games they lost are generally winnable games, but Peyton and the offense can't generate offense.  Looking through the game summaries here http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannPe00/gamelog/post / you find a lot of three and out drives, a number of turnovers (some fumbles not his fault, obviously) and generally not the kind of offensive performance you'd expect from one of the best quarterbacks of the generation.

Manning tends to have his worst game of the year in the post season and that moreso than weak defenses has led to his early exits.
 
2013-11-03 01:40:25 PM  

The_Y2P_Problem: ArtosRC: bel4sucks: No one said that.

Kinda quoted it.

You did.  Here's the quote:

Go Fornicate Without a Partner: manning and welker aren't known for post season poise. foxes health won't affect that either way.

The quote is accurate.  While Manning does have a Super Bowl ring and another appearance, the knock on him is that he's been to the post season 11 times and only won at least one game in four of those post seasons for an overall 9-11 record.  And hate to break it to you, but the games they lost are generally winnable games, but Peyton and the offense can't generate offense.  Looking through the game summaries here http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannPe00/gamelog/post / you find a lot of three and out drives, a number of turnovers (some fumbles not his fault, obviously) and generally not the kind of offensive performance you'd expect from one of the best quarterbacks of the generation.

Manning tends to have his worst game of the year in the post season and that moreso than weak defenses has led to his early exits.


Thanks for the "in depth" analysis there.
 
2013-11-03 01:44:58 PM  
"What the f***, say?"

Right up there with "If you see Amy"
 
2013-11-03 01:50:54 PM  

Slow To Return: "What the f***, say?"

Right up there with "If you see Amy"


*seek
 
2013-11-03 02:16:41 PM  

ArtosRC: Kinda quoted it.


LOL no you didn't.  They said two players weren't known for their playoff poise.  You turn it into never having any success.  Don't be a farking cowboys fan about it.
 
2013-11-03 02:44:59 PM  

bel4sucks: ArtosRC: Kinda quoted it.

LOL no you didn't.  They said two players weren't known for their playoff poise.  You turn it into never having any success.  Don't be a farking cowboys fan about it.


Yea, it's like saying Belfour sucks, but being able to admit he's one of a very small group of players that have won an NCAA Championship, Olympic gold and a Stanley Cup.
 
2013-11-03 02:58:11 PM  

LessO2: AdamK: and the Chiefs' chances of locking up the division just got a little bit better

Pretty bold statement considering they haven't played their two games with the Broncos yet.

Not saying the Broncos are a lock (they'll probably split the two games), but there's plenty of time for the Chiefs to realize they're the 2000s Chiefs.


"little bit better" is bold nowadays? man, i should donate a dollar to a non-profit, i'd be a philanthropist
 
2013-11-03 02:59:07 PM  

The_Y2P_Problem: Manning tends to have his worst game of the year in the post season and that moreso than weak defenses has led to his early exits.


It's almost as if this is some sort of gnashing of teeth because of the fact that Manning hasn't destroyed the NFL enough. Yes, let's pay no mind to the fact that he's a Super Bowl MVP. He hasn't won a championship every year since he landed in the league, so he's unworthy of his praise, right? It's strange to see people angry that a man hasn't smacked them across the face more than he already has. 

And the scorn would be justified, were he some terrible quarterback without a ring. You know, like Rivers, Cutler, Romo, and the such.
 
2013-11-03 03:51:18 PM  

Slow To Return: Yea, it's like saying Belfour sucks, but being able to admit he's one of a very small group of players that have won an NCAA Championship, Olympic gold and a Stanley Cup.


Okay?

ArtosRC: And the scorn would be justified, were he some terrible quarterback without a ring. You know, like Rivers, Cutler, Romo, and the such.


He gets shiat because he's best known as a playoff bust.  Like damn near 70% of the time.
 
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2013-11-03 04:00:25 PM  

bel4sucks: Slow To Return: Yea, it's like saying Belfour sucks, but being able to admit he's one of a very small group of players that have won an NCAA Championship, Olympic gold and a Stanley Cup.

Okay?

ArtosRC: And the scorn would be justified, were he some terrible quarterback without a ring. You know, like Rivers, Cutler, Romo, and the such.

He gets shiat because he's best known as a playoff bust.  Like damn near 70% of the time.


Tim Tebow ain't coming through that door.
 
2013-11-03 04:03:02 PM  

bel4sucks: Slow To Return: Yea, it's like saying Belfour sucks, but being able to admit he's one of a very small group of players that have won an NCAA Championship, Olympic gold and a Stanley Cup.

Okay?

ArtosRC: And the scorn would be justified, were he some terrible quarterback without a ring. You know, like Rivers, Cutler, Romo, and the such.

He gets shiat because he's best known as a playoff bust.  Like damn near 70% of the time.


Really? Playoff bust? Good one.
 
2013-11-03 04:06:53 PM  

bel4sucks: He gets shiat because he's best known as a playoff bust.


He says of Super Bowl MVP Peyton Manning.
 
2013-11-03 04:15:52 PM  

redmid17: Really? Playoff bust? Good one.


ArtosRC: He says of Super Bowl MVP Peyton Manning.


8 first game losses out of 12 total playoff appearances backs it up.
 
2013-11-03 04:16:04 PM  

ArtosRC: bel4sucks: He gets shiat because he's best known as a playoff bust.

He says of Super Bowl MVP Peyton Manning.


Not gonna lie. Lots of QBs have decent postseason records because their teams don't make it to the playoffs every year. Eli is one and out when he doesn't make it to the SB and has missed the playoffs about half of the time, just as one example.

Manning drags a lot of teams to the playoffs that really had no business being there. 2008 and 2010 really stand out in my mind. Even the 2009 team that went to the SB wasn't that good. The roster turnover for actual contributors between 2009 and 2011 was minimal -- only real players that got swapped were Tim Jennings and maybe Charlie Johnson. The only real substantive loss was Manning, and those seasons could not have played out any differently.
 
2013-11-03 04:17:03 PM  

bel4sucks: redmid17: Really? Playoff bust? Good one.

ArtosRC: He says of Super Bowl MVP Peyton Manning.

8 first game losses out of 12 total playoff appearances backs it up.


Yet you think that's what he is known for, which is comical at best. The fact you are attributing a playoff record to one player says just about everything one would need to know.
 
2013-11-03 04:19:49 PM  

bel4sucks: 8 first game losses out of 12 total playoff appearances backs it up.


Championship and Super Bowl MVP honors say otherwise.
 
2013-11-03 04:43:52 PM  

ArtosRC: Championship and Super Bowl MVP honors say otherwise.


You can keep parroting that same bullshiat over and over, it still doesn't change anything.  That's a pretty crap statline for an MVP, but it's probably because it was raining.  When you are out of the playoffs in the first game you get almost 70% of the time, you aren't going to be known as a playoff QB.

redmid17: Yet you think that's what he is known for, which is comical at best. The fact you are attributing a playoff record to one player says just about everything one would need to know.


It is what he's known for in the playoffs.  He puts up staggering regular season numbers, then shiats the bed in the playoffs.  He's the leader of his teams, he might get a little more crap for the loss.
 
2013-11-03 05:01:11 PM  

bel4sucks: When you are out of the playoffs in the first game you get almost 70% of the time, you aren't going to be known as a playoff QB.


I guess he'll just have to settle for having myriad records and being known as Super Bowl MVP Peyton Manning.
 
2013-11-03 05:02:58 PM  

bel4sucks: redmid17: Yet you think that's what he is known for, which is comical at best. The fact you are attributing a playoff record to one player says just about everything one would need to know.

It is what he's known for in the playoffs.  He puts up staggering regular season numbers, then shiats the bed in the playoffs.  He's the leader of his teams, he might get a little more crap for the loss.


He doesn't shiat the bed in the playoffs though. He's had bad games. Not a question there, but most QBs have a few god awful games? Hell even played worse than an average QB (80 passer rating)?

Brady - 10 (11 without rounding) of 24 playoff games below 80 PR. 5 games below 70
Rapelisberger - 7 of 14 games below 80. 3 below 70
Eli - 3 of 10 games below 80. 2 below 70

Peyton has a higher passer rating than Rapelisberger and Brady in the playoffs and is barely behind his brother. His teams tend to lose even when he does above average. The Colts, 2006 excepted (minus the AFC CG 2nd half), really needed him to be MVP Peyton all the time to win. When Brady tanked or didn't do too well, the Pats tended to win because they had better defense, coaching, and STs. I could literally write a tome on it, but luckily other people already have. Manning with the Colts is such an outlier it's weird.

I'll just leave you with these:

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2013/10/the-myth-of-playoff-peyton.h tm l
http://www.coltsauthority.com/2012-archives/january/colts-most-bizar re -playoff-stat-in-nfl-history.html
http://www.coltsauthority.com/2012-archives/february/why-the-colts-a re -a-9-10-playoff-team-in-the-peyton-manning-era.html
 
2013-11-03 05:09:17 PM  

ArtosRC: I guess he'll just have to settle for having myriad records and being known as Super Bowl MVP Peyton Manning.


Regular season records, and I even said he's got nice numbers.  He's got a shiat record in the playoffs.
 
2013-11-03 05:13:28 PM  

bel4sucks: ArtosRC: I guess he'll just have to settle for having myriad records and being known as Super Bowl MVP Peyton Manning.

Regular season records, and I even said he's got nice numbers.  He's got a shiat record in the playoffs.


His team has a mediocre record in the playoffs. Attributing wins and losses to one player makes you look like a moron.
 
2013-11-03 05:16:04 PM  

bel4sucks: He's got a shiat record in the playoffs.


He's got a ring and Super Bowl MVP honors.
 
2013-11-03 05:16:06 PM  

redmid17: He doesn't shiat the bed in the playoffs though. He's had bad games. Not a question there, but most QBs have a few god awful games? Hell even played worse than an average QB (80 passer rating)?


The guy is crap in the playoffs, and biatching about his defense isn't right either.  His defenses give up an average of 21.25 points per playoff game.  You'd think someone who can pass like Manning would be able to overcome that, but the truth is that he has not.  That with the fact you can count on at least one INT per playoff game, and he's going to get the rep that he can't get it done in the playoffs.
 
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