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2013-11-03 12:05:06 PM
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2013-11-03 12:08:34 PM
How about deport all of them to Vatican City.
Let the Vatican and Rome deal with the problem.

TADA
Problem solved.

/why would they require due process? we have been told that they dont fall under us law, but under vatican law ... LOL
 
2013-11-03 12:44:16 PM
Wait... I'm confused... I thought the Catholic church WAS a house of ill repute... at least as far as altar boys go anyway.
 
2013-11-03 12:45:42 PM
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2013-11-03 12:50:34 PM

LewDux: SOON
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Damn, now I want cake.
 
2013-11-03 01:16:40 PM
20 pesos, same as in town.

/you have just been screwed by the Sisters of Mercy
 
2013-11-03 01:18:09 PM
The Vatican has shown its priorities in this subject, and it certainly isn't about justice for victims.

/amassing wealth and power, and disgusting abuse of both
//the fact that they're largely allowed to get away with this is proof of the non-existence or worship-unworthiness of God.
 
2013-11-03 01:37:42 PM
I might be impressed if the Pope had all those priests kicked out and jailed and then turned THOSE houses into homeless shelters.
 
2013-11-03 01:44:04 PM

namatad: How about deport all of them to Vatican City.
Let the Vatican and Rome deal with the problem.

TADA
Problem solved.

/why would they require due process? we have been told that they dont fall under us law, but under vatican law ... LOL


Take them back to the Vatican City
Where the roofs are green and the boys are pretty.

Oh, won't they please go down.
 
2013-11-03 02:24:52 PM
How do people still want to "celebrate" religious mythologies in 2013? The skills and bells may be enticing, but I would never subject my children to religion, or the clergy.
 
2013-11-03 02:28:59 PM
I still have no idea whatsoever how anyone in good conscience can remain Catholic and continue to endorse a bunch of pedos. It's simple, you give a dime to the catholic church, you endorse this, period.

You're a sick bunch, that's for damn sure. In a just world, we'd invade the Vatican and arrest those sick fark on RICO statutes.
 
2013-11-03 02:37:29 PM
Filled with parnels?
 
2013-11-03 02:45:47 PM
Catholic Church has some serious problems

I like my like Catholic faith and the way I pray to God.
I don't need a home office in Italy and dudes in funny hats to tell me what's between me and God.

They don't make good Catholics like Martin Luther anymore
 
2013-11-03 03:02:17 PM

Johnny Swank: I still have no idea whatsoever how anyone in good conscience can remain Catholic and continue to endorse a bunch of pedos. It's simple, you give a dime to the catholic church, you endorse this, period.

You're a sick bunch, that's for damn sure. In a just world, we'd invade the Vatican and arrest those sick fark on RICO statutes.


I left the church nearly 30 years ago and I'll never go back. A large part is because I realized it was all so much bovine effluent. Much happier as a nihilistic atheist today. But the other part was I saw that and other abuses going on in the church and the reactions of the Bishops and upper hierarchy were appalling.

I'd go you one further on the RICO statutes, tax every singly church property for every penny. Take them for tax sale. I'd buy a church and turn it into a gay bathhouse to be honest.
 
2013-11-03 03:16:28 PM
www.bangitout.com: It's OK, Pope Francis will take care of that in no time
 
2013-11-03 03:29:42 PM

Anastacya: LewDux: SOON
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Damn, now I want cake.


So, you're saying, you want a piece of that? ;-)
 
2013-11-03 03:57:20 PM
Its a shame the church doesn't have retreats located on otherwise deserted islands or frozen tundra, away from civilization.
 
2013-11-03 04:26:36 PM

cyberspacedout: Anastacya: LewDux: SOON
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Damn, now I want cake.

So, you're saying, you want a piece of that? ;-)


Maybe two; haven't eaten anything today and Im starving!

/being facetious
 
2013-11-03 04:46:03 PM

kd1s: I'd buy a church and turn it into a gay bathhouse to be honest.


I'd live in it and invite Arlo Guthrie over for Thanksgiving.
 
2013-11-03 05:08:43 PM
Information has been turned over to the police, statute of limitations has (unfortunately) expired for criminal charges, so the charges remain alleged, the presumed guilty have been (mostly) isolated from contact with minors. Civil charges could be filed, but probably difficult to win.
Francis has told the Bishops that all charges be immediately be turned over to police, so that may help the statute of limitation problem. Still, I imagine that prosecution of pedophiles, whether clergy or laymen, is difficult.
 
2013-11-03 06:08:21 PM
Francis is still sheltering Fr. Dolan in the Vatican to avoid prosecution. The pope's done exactly shiat-all concerning all the pedophiles the catholics are actively hiding.

He does, however, have a much better marketing program than the last nazi they had in there. People are eating his bullshiat up and asking for seconds. Just, they're gullible idiots.
 
2013-11-03 06:10:19 PM
I don't think that being sexually abused by a pedo priest was what Jesus meant when he said: "Suffer little children to come unto me..."
 
2013-11-03 06:42:18 PM
Those comments are something...

There are over 100Xs more Rabbi's that molest children than Priests

But they never make it in the news. I guess it is not allowed b/c the same tribe owns all of the main stream media in the USA

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Why is it that the Star Ledger is obsessed with the Catholic Church and gay priests??? Why not do a story about rabbis who abused kids??? Or other religious denominations?? It seems that for every bad priest there are many more who are good priests..


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The homosexual advances of these predators are inexcusable. Clearly there is no condoning such behavior. It is repugnant and disgusting. That does not mean that the SL would not like to hammer an institution that rejects Homosexual Marriage, Abortion and the Obamacare HHS Mandate. If the SL was this concerned about the safety of children then why didn't they report on the APA's retraction of pedophilia being a sexual orientation in their Manual of Diagnostic and Statistical Mental Disorders? They are trying to follow the same path the Homosexual Lobby used years ago to gain legitimacy? Or is it something the SL choses to ignore because the APA is not Catholic enough? Or is it possible that having to refer to the Homosexual legitimacy roadmap the pedophiles are pursuing something that would throw suspicion on the homosexual special interest groups that the SL aligns themselves with to discredit religions?
 
2013-11-03 06:55:32 PM

Paris1127: Those comments are something...

There are over 100Xs more Rabbi's that molest children than Priests

But they never make it in the news. I guess it is not allowed b/c the same tribe owns all of the main stream media in the USA

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Why is it that the Star Ledger is obsessed with the Catholic Church and gay priests??? Why not do a story about rabbis who abused kids??? Or other religious denominations?? It seems that for every bad priest there are many more who are good priests..

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The homosexual advances of these predators are inexcusable. Clearly there is no condoning such behavior. It is repugnant and disgusting. That does not mean that the SL would not like to hammer an institution that rejects Homosexual Marriage, Abortion and the Obamacare HHS Mandate. If the SL was this concerned about the safety of children then why didn't they report on the APA's retraction of pedophilia being a sexual orientation in their Manual of Diagnostic and Statistical Mental Disorders? They are trying to follow the same path the Homosexual Lobby used years ago to gain legitimacy? Or is it something the SL choses to ignore because the APA is not Catholic enough? Or is it possible that having to refer to the Homosexual legitimacy roadmap the pedophiles are pursuing something that would throw suspicion on the homosexual special interest groups that the SL aligns themselves with to discredit religions?


Breaking news: Pedophiles seek positions where they have authority over children. It's the Willie Sutton postulate.
 
2013-11-03 08:52:35 PM
It's not just the pedophiles that the Catholic church moves around. They move them around for other crimes too.

Panama City Florida became a Vietnamese fishing village in the 80's, and the most of them were North Vietnamese Catholics who moved south after Dien Bien Phu and then into the US when Siagon fell. Almost all were sponsored as foster families by the local Catholic church. They started their own Vietnamese parish and had a Vietnamese church in a cheap dilapidated building that they quickly outgrew. Some of the fishing families got quite wealthy and put up almost 400k to buy land and build a new church on it. At the same time the families took turns cooking and cleaning the rectory for the priest. One of the families sent their 14 year old daughter.

Soon the daughter turned up missing, it was assumed she had gone to New Orleans or Houston with another Vietnamese boy--until one day she turned up in the local Winn Dixie. The priest had rented out a house on a dead end street and moved her in and was spending his nights there. About the same time an audit from the parish found that the priest had spend around 350k of the money with nothing to show for it. I knew a lot of the Viet shrimpers, and they were a rough bunch---more rednecky than the local Panama City rednecks--and many of them had military training from being in the ARVN. They started hunting the priest and probably would have killed him had not the Catholic Church got him a position as a Navy chaplin.

Then we had the Irish guy who was brilliant at playing the stocks and bond markets, and he got together with another two priests and stole 1.6 million from a big parish outside of Tampa/St Pete--and they whisked him off back to Ireland when the parish council attempted to take him to court. By the time they were caught they had turned that 1.6 million into almost 7 million dollars

And finally we had that gay little sh*t who fleeced several parishes of over a million dollars who was finally caught selling exstasy out of the rectory in Milton. He had bought 25,000 tabs of fake exstasy in New Orleans and brought them to Florida to sell, until the locals ratted him out for his selling them bogus goods. He turned states evidence on anybody he could while claiming that "the pressures of the priesthood caused me to abuse drugs". When he went in to his court hearing he had over 50 little old lady parishioners in the audience and actually strutted in. Then he put on an act for the judge and got two years in a country club prison and two years in a halfway house rehab center, both out of state. Karma caught up with that SOB though; he tried to solict sex from a 12 year old boy in Port St Joe Florida from Mobile Alabama (it was a police sting) and is currently serving ten years in a federal lockup.
 
2013-11-03 11:05:32 PM
simplicimus:
Francis has told the Bishops that all charges be immediately be turned over to police, so that may help the statute of limitation problem. Still, I imagine that prosecution of pedophiles, whether clergy or laymen, is difficult.

Uhh, NO.

Francis said something that could sort of be interpreted as that at a press conference.  However, there's no indication that the official position of the Roman Catholic church has changed.   Many previous popes, cardinals and bishops have given lip service to this but, as the many letters from the papacy to the clergy uncovered during lawsuits have shown, it is the official position of the Roman Catholic church that it be handled strictly within the church.
 
2013-11-03 11:19:47 PM

jgk3: simplicimus:
Francis has told the Bishops that all charges be immediately be turned over to police, so that may help the statute of limitation problem. Still, I imagine that prosecution of pedophiles, whether clergy or laymen, is difficult.

Uhh, NO.

Francis said something that could sort of be interpreted as that at a press conference.  However, there's no indication that the official position of the Roman Catholic church has changed.   Many previous popes, cardinals and bishops have given lip service to this but, as the many letters from the papacy to the clergy uncovered during lawsuits have shown, it is the official position of the Roman Catholic church that it be handled strictly within the church.


Well, that's how Francis handled it in Argentina. But it may take him longer to change the whole Church mindset.
 
2013-11-03 11:29:06 PM
And there's this oddity:
"Under the reported changes, sexual violence and sexual acts with children, child prostitution and child pornography are cited in a broader definition of crimes against minors and punishable by up to 12 years in prison.
The legal changes are currently applicable only in Vatican City, but are said to demonstrate the new pope's determination to take the problem seriously and align Church policy with international legal standards."
http://www.breakingchristiannews.com/articles/display_art.html?ID=120 7 8">http://www.breakingchristiannews.com/articles/display_art.html?ID= 1207 8

I didn't know that the Vatican City had a prison. And I have absolutely no idea how the privacy of confession works under  this scenario.
 
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