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2013-11-03 08:32:28 AM  
Chills down my spine.
Tears in my eyes.
Awesome. Just awesome.
 
2013-11-03 08:33:31 AM  
Meh...seen better.
 
2013-11-03 08:36:03 AM  
Normally, I see this stuff and I'm pretty Meh.

This is not one of those times. Holy Crap, that little girl has got pipes!
 
2013-11-03 08:45:42 AM  
Am I the only one who has noticed that all these (insert country here) Has Talent Shows have recycled acts with different people? There is always the ugly person who is a amazing singer but you would not have seen it coming because they look slighty derpy, the 10 or under "opera singer" who everyone is going to say that God has blessed her to sing like an angel, and I am sure there are more but I have not had enough coffee to brain right.
 
2013-11-03 08:55:22 AM  
Couldn't understand a word she said...
 
2013-11-03 09:14:50 AM  

I Love Rooster: Am I the only one who has noticed that all these (insert country here) Has Talent Shows have recycled acts with different people? There is always the ugly person who is a amazing singer but you would not have seen it coming because they look slighty derpy, the 10 or under "opera singer" who everyone is going to say that God has blessed her to sing like an angel, and I am sure there are more but I have not had enough coffee to brain right.


Yeah, but interrupting the performance with reaction shots of the buffoons they always have off to the side of the stage makes it worth it.
 
2013-11-03 09:17:15 AM  
Amazing. They must have hid the 350lbs opera lady under the stage.
 
2013-11-03 09:18:05 AM  
This is recycled; there was another young kid who sang opera, a goth dude singing opera. Truth is, there are hundreds of thousands of people who can sing.
 
2013-11-03 09:19:29 AM  
Daaaaaamn!

/ bet she'd absolutely NAIL the vocals on the first 5 Rush albums.
 
2013-11-03 09:20:09 AM  

unfarkingbelievable: This is recycled; there was another young kid who sang opera, a goth dude singing opera. Truth is, there are hundreds of thousands of people who can sing.


I can't and neither can you so its farking impressive.
 
2013-11-03 09:23:05 AM  
Although good, you could spend all day on youtube watching clips of "amazing unexpected performance on talent show".
 
2013-11-03 09:31:27 AM  
This girl is good... Jackie Evancho is better IMO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d_XTvLalJk

(Singing starts at 1:45)
 
2013-11-03 09:38:40 AM  
I am a classically trained opera singer, and pianist so I am a bit stuck up when it comes to things like this. And it makes me sad that all these little girls coming out with these "big voices" are going to be vocally worn out and possibly even damage their "pipes" before adulthood because of using improper form and techniques (or none at all.)
 
2013-11-03 09:39:48 AM  

e4rlgrey: This girl is good... Jackie Evancho is better IMO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d_XTvLalJk

(Singing starts at 1:45)


Agreed, The Holland girl has some issues, such not properly supporting as she runs up and down the scale. She's not breathing properly so she runs out of air.
 
2013-11-03 09:50:07 AM  

Minimum: Couldn't understand a word she said...


She said "I am Amira. I am 9 years old, and I am going to sing something for you all that you will completely not expect." The she sings Puccini. I couldn't really get everything she said at the end but it was something like "I often dream about singing really well etc."
 
2013-11-03 09:52:52 AM  

unfarkingbelievable: This is recycled; there was another young kid who sang opera, a goth dude singing opera. Truth is, there are hundreds of thousands of people who can sing.


My friend just texted me some black dude singing falsetto "O mio babbino caro" yesterday. Neither a 9-yr-old girl nor a 30ish black dude should be singing those words.

And having the entire audience stand and clap during an aria is extremely tacky.
 
2013-11-03 09:53:07 AM  
Very good. Now she can fund her way out of Holland.
 
2013-11-03 10:24:04 AM  
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2013-11-03 10:33:39 AM  
Damn you, elvindeath...

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2013-11-03 10:37:34 AM  
Um, OK, that was impressive for a 9-year-old, but if someone was expecting me to say she's ready to go pro, they'll be disappointed.

I Love Rooster: it makes me sad that all these little girls coming out with these "big voices" are going to be vocally worn out and possibly even damage their "pipes" before adulthood because of using improper form and techniques (or none at all.)


Well, it is probably her best chance at fame, but yeah, we have our next case of vocal nodules right here.
 
2013-11-03 10:58:18 AM  
This isn't amazing or wonderful or good at all and I haven't even watched the video but I feel confident that this is very lame and not amazing that makes me feel very very clever and big.
 
2013-11-03 10:59:32 AM  
meh, she was kind of cute but not really "speechless" hot.
 
2013-11-03 11:11:28 AM  
Damn...what a voice...just wow....
 
2013-11-03 11:22:07 AM  
I love the shot of the other contestant with the look of "oh shiat" on her face. Might as well go home.
 
2013-11-03 11:45:19 AM  
I liked it. But some people already pointed out problems she may have. That is a shame. That is why I don't like these shows. I like what the man said below:

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2013-11-03 11:45:57 AM  
Call me when she tours with Meatloaf.
 
2013-11-03 11:52:54 AM  

I Love Rooster: And it makes me sad that all these little girls coming out with these "big voices" are going to be vocally worn out and possibly even damage their "pipes" before adulthood because of using improper form and techniques (or none at all.)


I was wondering about that. If these kids have mad dope singing skillz shouldn't the first thought of the parents be "How quickly can I get this kid to Juilard?" A great opera singer will have a much longer, more profitable career than a talent show winner.
 
2013-11-03 12:15:10 PM  

Pentaxian: I was wondering about that. If these kids have mad dope singing skillz shouldn't the first thought of the parents be "How quickly can I get this kid to Juilard?"


I could be off base here but that didn't sound to me like a kid headed to Julliard.  That sounded like a kid over-coached to sing on TV, risks be damned

1) She doesn't have "pipes"; she has pint-sized lungs because her lungs are literally pint-sized.  That's how they fit in the rib cage of a 9-year-old girl.  She is breathing constantly (her lungs just can't fill with enough air to sustain that volume) and forcing every note like whoah.  This is like coaching a 13-year-old boy to throw 92mph; the fans will go "wow" while every pitching coach who sees the clip will be calling CPS to have the kid taken from his parents.
2) This aria is one of the easiest to sing, and most difficult to sing well.  It doesn't demand much in terms of range or transition, which really puts all the artistic pressure on the singer.  She sang it like a machine would -- well-coached execution, no musicality.  It sounded paced, not flowing, with token fermatas put in to give the impression she knows what she's doing.

Overall I got the impression of watching something comparable to a chimpanzee that was meticulously trained to punch a sequence on a keyboard such that the result was a functioning program.  No one would actually believe a chimp can become an actual programmer, and I really don't think the kid understands what she's trained to do.  The effect -- after hours and hours of practice that may well be damaging -- is a neat show to wow the masses, and one I think is arguably cruel to the subject.  She may be a freak of nature with vocal chords of steel, but I more see a little engine that could that's redlining way too much and much too early.
 
2013-11-03 12:23:24 PM  

dragonchild: Pentaxian: I was wondering about that. If these kids have mad dope singing skillz shouldn't the first thought of the parents be "How quickly can I get this kid to Juilard?"

I could be off base here but that didn't sound to me like a kid headed to Julliard.  That sounded like a kid over-coached to sing on TV, risks be damned

1) She doesn't have "pipes"; she has pint-sized lungs because her lungs are literally pint-sized.  That's how they fit in the rib cage of a 9-year-old girl.  She is breathing constantly (her lungs just can't fill with enough air to sustain that volume) and forcing every note like whoah.  This is like coaching a 13-year-old boy to throw 92mph; the fans will go "wow" while every pitching coach who sees the clip will be calling CPS to have the kid taken from his parents.
2) This aria is one of the easiest to sing, and most difficult to sing well.  It doesn't demand much in terms of range or transition, which really puts all the artistic pressure on the singer.  She sang it like a machine would -- well-coached execution, no musicality.  It sounded paced, not flowing, with token fermatas put in to give the impression she knows what she's doing.

Overall I got the impression of watching something comparable to a chimpanzee that was meticulously trained to punch a sequence on a keyboard such that the result was a functioning program.  No one would actually believe a chimp can become an actual programmer, and I really don't think the kid understands what she's trained to do.  The effect -- after hours and hours of practice that may well be damaging -- is a neat show to wow the masses, and one I think is arguably cruel to the subject.  She may be a freak of nature with vocal chords of steel, but I more see a little engine that could that's redlining way too much and much too early.


actually, with the correct voice coach, the Holland girl could be workable. The problems are not insurmountable, BUT she needs a proper voice coach and soon. Otherwise, she will blow her voice.  There are kid singers who can belt it out like a pro all day long and not break a sweat. Look up Sabrina Carpenter-Flat On The Floor on youtube.
 
2013-11-03 12:29:01 PM  
 
2013-11-03 12:33:48 PM  
 
2013-11-03 12:33:49 PM  
Three panel judge shows are like the hemorrhoid on the demonic entity of reality television, lovely though the childs voice may be.
 
2013-11-03 12:37:00 PM  

I Love Rooster: I am a classically trained opera singer, and pianist so I am a bit stuck up when it comes to things like this. And it makes me sad that all these little girls coming out with these "big voices" are going to be vocally worn out and possibly even damage their "pipes" before adulthood because of using improper form and techniques (or none at all.)


Yup. It borders on affect.
 
2013-11-03 12:38:28 PM  
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2013-11-03 01:02:38 PM  
dionysusaur:

/ bet she'd absolutely NAIL the vocals on the first 5 Rush albums.

Hey now, some of us weridos actually listen to  Rush for Geddy Lee's voice.

/handle that comment with kid gloves.
 
2013-11-03 01:05:24 PM  
A rare day?  Odd numbered days are not rare.

There are about 57 television talent shows on the air at any given moment.  This is not unusual anymore, or ever really was.
 
2013-11-03 01:41:31 PM  

Zombalupagus: I Love Rooster: Am I the only one who has noticed that all these (insert country here) Has Talent Shows have recycled acts with different people? There is always the ugly person who is a amazing singer but you would not have seen it coming because they look slighty derpy, the 10 or under "opera singer" who everyone is going to say that God has blessed her to sing like an angel, and I am sure there are more but I have not had enough coffee to brain right.

Yeah, but interrupting the performance with reaction shots of the buffoons they always have off to the side of the stage makes it worth it.


Came here to say this. I hate that, buffoons is right.
 
2013-11-03 01:58:51 PM  

syrynxx: And having the entire audience stand and clap during an aria is extremely tacky.


THIS! So much THIS!

Yes, her voice is impressive, and yes she is an amazing singer, for any age.  But why must these stupid audiences get all excited and cheer for high notes DURING the performance? It's rude and shows a general lack of class.  The best and most appropriate reaction to such a performance is for the audience to sit in complete silence until the singer is done, THEN get up and cheer.  Why is that such a difficult concept?
 
2013-11-03 02:00:13 PM  
It seems to me that certain kinds of vocalized music requires that the singer have some life experience to be believable to a discerning audience.
Otherwise, it is as other posters have suggested - virtual mechanical reproduction of sound.

It's like having an 11-year-old blues singer. Unless you've been abused as a younger child, what have you got to be blue about?
 
2013-11-03 02:28:50 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: It seems to me that certain kinds of vocalized music requires that the singer have some life experience to be believable to a discerning audience.
Otherwise, it is as other posters have suggested - virtual mechanical reproduction of sound.
It's like having an 11-year-old blues singer. Unless you've been abused as a younger child, what have you got to be blue about?


I wouldn't go with that comparison.  Again, this is more like teaching a chimp to do tricks or, perhaps to be less abrasive about it, training a kid to memorize a complex mathematical proof to reproduce on a whiteboard.  At first glance the kid will appear to be a genius, but to the kid it's just symbols.  The term "one-trick pony" comes to mind.

This aria is technically simple (I have the vocal range of a frog and I can sing it -- albeit terribly and an octave lower) but intensely musical -- making it beautiful is like finding the right lighting and angle to photograph a single flower.  All it has to offer is elegant simplicity; the expression comes from the artist.  I would not expect a nine-year-old girl to understand music well enough to express herself stylistically singing an aria, and. . . well, sure enough, that's exactly what did NOT happen.  She sounded micro-coached into giving a performance intended to impress but lacks all passion.  It's really demanding too much of a child and I want to slap the assholes who put her up to it.
 
2013-11-03 03:26:06 PM  

dragonchild: Huck And Molly Ziegler: It seems to me that certain kinds of vocalized music requires that the singer have some life experience to be believable to a discerning audience.
Otherwise, it is as other posters have suggested - virtual mechanical reproduction of sound.
It's like having an 11-year-old blues singer. Unless you've been abused as a younger child, what have you got to be blue about?

I wouldn't go with that comparison.  Again, this is more like teaching a chimp to do tricks or, perhaps to be less abrasive about it, training a kid to memorize a complex mathematical proof to reproduce on a whiteboard.  At first glance the kid will appear to be a genius, but to the kid it's just symbols.  The term "one-trick pony" comes to mind.

This aria is technically simple (I have the vocal range of a frog and I can sing it -- albeit terribly and an octave lower) but intensely musical -- making it beautiful is like finding the right lighting and angle to photograph a single flower.  All it has to offer is elegant simplicity; the expression comes from the artist.  I would not expect a nine-year-old girl to understand music well enough to express herself stylistically singing an aria, and. . . well, sure enough, that's exactly what did NOT happen.  She sounded micro-coached into giving a performance intended to impress but lacks all passion.  It's really demanding too much of a child and I want to slap the assholes who put her up to it.


Dragonchild

Sabrina would like to have a word with you, so to speak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJKrHCWgiFU&noredirect=1

I helped her dad set up a home studio.
 
2013-11-03 03:56:00 PM  
It reminded me of the scene in Shewshank Redemption where Andy plays the Aria from Nozze di Figaro.

"I have no idea to this day what those two Italian ladies were singing about. Truth is, I don't wanna know. Some things are better left unsaid. I'd like to think they were singing about something so beautiful it can't be expressed in words, and it makes your heart ache because of it. I tell you those voices soared, higher and farther than anybody in a grey place dares to dream. "
 
2013-11-03 04:04:34 PM  
What a whore.
 
2013-11-03 04:46:21 PM  
That's great and all, but who was the blonde judge in the center, and are there flattering pictures of her?
 
2013-11-03 05:10:18 PM  
Girls' voices change when they get older, too... Which is why I don't understand all the effort poured into coaching some young kid to sing when there's a good chance they'll lose the ability when puberty hits.

Some people make it through puberty and retain their singing voice. Others find that their adult range is just not the same as their youthful high pitch. Others find that they blew their voice pushing it so hard when they were so young.

And that Sabrina kid..? Not that great, really. I'm sure she sounds awesome to her family and friends, but to outsiders who don't have an emotional investment in her, she sounds like every other kid singer. The same difficulty breathing, the same kid voice, the same mimicking of adult mannerisms and techniques that just seem silly coming from a child. She may improve, but for now she reeks of parental influence and ego-stroking, and I kind of feel sorry for her because when she's no longer the cute little kid people aren't going to be quite so kind and they won't overlook all her vocal problems.

Now... Go a little older, and we have Zoe Bestel. 14/15/16 years old (depending on which performance you watch), and a voice that really deserves to be heard.

http://youtu.be/LE7EeYrdoDM

http://youtu.be/rXXbvf3qfvo

http://youtu.be/KnCD5Q6w5WQ

She not only sings beautifully in her own style, she also writes her own songs, plays guitars and ukes, and basically blows away these 9-year-olds who are coached to mimic someone else.
 
2013-11-03 05:44:00 PM  

worlddan: dionysusaur:

/ bet she'd absolutely NAIL the vocals on the first 5 Rush albums.

Hey now, some of us weridos actually listen to  Rush for Geddy Lee's voice.

/handle that comment with kid gloves.


I loves me some Rush, but be mindful - Starship had to hire Mickey Thomas because Grace couldn't reach the high notes any more.  They folded and he moved on to Heart 'cause Anne wasn't as rangeful as she used to be.  Geddy's getting ready to either drop the key or bring out a vocoder/Eventide Harmonizer to hit the top.

/ admit it - a tween girl singing _I Think I'm Going Bald_ would be a h00t.
 
2013-11-03 06:06:42 PM  
I'm usually not impressed.

This is impressive.  She really does have a gorgeous singing voice.  However, I hope they don't push her too soon because she's still quite young, and it takes years to develop a proper operatic singing voice without straining too much.
 
2013-11-03 06:20:41 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Girls' voices change when they get older, too... Which is why I don't understand all the effort poured into coaching some young kid to sing when there's a good chance they'll lose the ability when puberty hits.

Some people make it through puberty and retain their singing voice. Others find that their adult range is just not the same as their youthful high pitch. Others find that they blew their voice pushing it so hard when they were so young.

And that Sabrina kid..? Not that great, really. I'm sure she sounds awesome to her family and friends, but to outsiders who don't have an emotional investment in her, she sounds like every other kid singer. The same difficulty breathing, the same kid voice, the same mimicking of adult mannerisms and techniques that just seem silly coming from a child. She may improve, but for now she reeks of parental influence and ego-stroking, and I kind of feel sorry for her because when she's no longer the cute little kid people aren't going to be quite so kind and they won't overlook all her vocal problems.

Now... Go a little older, and we have Zoe Bestel. 14/15/16 years old (depending on which performance you watch), and a voice that really deserves to be heard.

http://youtu.be/LE7EeYrdoDM

http://youtu.be/rXXbvf3qfvo

http://youtu.be/KnCD5Q6w5WQ

She not only sings beautifully in her own style, she also writes her own songs, plays guitars and ukes, and basically blows away these 9-year-olds who are coached to mimic someone else.


LOL, well I know Sabrina's voice coach, he's a retired Opera singer that lives in France. I occasionally scout for him. He is so good he can usually tell immediately who  the current voice coach is. Sabrina is just one of his students and he only works with the best of the best. He also  one of the coaches for Universal Records France. His clients work to get signed.

Zoe voice's was good and actually very pleasing but was working within a narrow range, its almost all head voice.  I listened to several of her recordings.  She basically compares to Suzanne Vega.

Sabrina works with a combination of head and chest, which gives her power plus range. She recorded Jennifer Warnes-I Know A Heartache When I See One for me when she was ten  year  old as a thank you for the studio. She easily outsang   the original  Jennifer Warnes. The enunciation was far cleaner, with a sharper, cleaner edge.

Here's one of his older students Ines Sawsen, doing a promo song for Arthur and The Invisibles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egxoDNUpOKc

This song would been a huge hit here, and we started the process to get it airplay, but the production company dropped the ball.
 
2013-11-03 08:24:01 PM  

Artcurus: ZeroCorpse: Girls' voices change when they get older, too... Which is why I don't understand all the effort poured into coaching some young kid to sing when there's a good chance they'll lose the ability when puberty hits.

Some people make it through puberty and retain their singing voice. Others find that their adult range is just not the same as their youthful high pitch. Others find that they blew their voice pushing it so hard when they were so young.

And that Sabrina kid..? Not that great, really. I'm sure she sounds awesome to her family and friends, but to outsiders who don't have an emotional investment in her, she sounds like every other kid singer. The same difficulty breathing, the same kid voice, the same mimicking of adult mannerisms and techniques that just seem silly coming from a child. She may improve, but for now she reeks of parental influence and ego-stroking, and I kind of feel sorry for her because when she's no longer the cute little kid people aren't going to be quite so kind and they won't overlook all her vocal problems.

Now... Go a little older, and we have Zoe Bestel. 14/15/16 years old (depending on which performance you watch), and a voice that really deserves to be heard.

http://youtu.be/LE7EeYrdoDM

http://youtu.be/rXXbvf3qfvo

http://youtu.be/KnCD5Q6w5WQ

She not only sings beautifully in her own style, she also writes her own songs, plays guitars and ukes, and basically blows away these 9-year-olds who are coached to mimic someone else.

LOL, well I know Sabrina's voice coach, he's a retired Opera singer that lives in France. I occasionally scout for him. He is so good he can usually tell immediately who  the current voice coach is. Sabrina is just one of his students and he only works with the best of the best. He also  one of the coaches for Universal Records France. His clients work to get signed.

Zoe voice's was good and actually very pleasing but was working within a narrow range, its almost all head voice.  I listened to ...


You completely missed ZeroCorpses point about being emotionally invested.  You are invested in the career of this little girl.  By coming out and stating that you know her coach and that he only works with the best is showing that you are biased.  I listened to her some of her songs and wasn't particulary impressed with her singing.
 
2013-11-04 08:40:10 AM  

Artcurus: Zoe voice's was good and actually very pleasing but was working within a narrow range, its almost all head voice.


Technically yes, but you're missing the point, though Sabrina's weaknesses are starting to make sense now.  The issue we have with the girl in TFA(?) is partially technique (that can be fixed), but also the musicality.

A nine-year-old girl's musicality is invariably going to be. . . well, girly, but that's what we expect.  Instead we hear a girl who's had all pink unicorn rainbow sparkle or whatever the hell goes on in a nine-year-old girl's head coached the hell out of her, mimicking adult mannerisms and style without the faintest understanding of what she's doing.  So she's got her own individuality beaten out of her just so she can wow the masses in a meaningless show, and replaced with someone else's interpretation that we don't give a shiat about.  She could well become a professional singer at some point, especially if she gets her technique issues fixed, but on this road she'll be a dime a dozen.  Same with Sabrina.  A technically polished voice singing in other people's styles -- these people go nowhere.

Zoe isn't a great singer.  As you say, she's all head voice.  I also have an allergy to folk, but despite my antipathy to her style frankly she was a LOT more fun to listen to.  Why?  Because it was her voice, however unpolished.  Her music, however amateurish.  Even in a style I couldn't care less for, I could tell I was listening to something I'd never heard before.  And frankly folk is one style where they're rather forgiving of technique, so her future looks more promising than OperaBot or CountryBot -- musically, even if her career goes nowhere.
 
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