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2013-11-03 06:54:19 AM
Ok, I didn't see this one.

I just contacted the admins asking for my F1 thread submission to be greened as it was the only one.

Thanks Admins.


Thadmins
 
2013-11-03 07:22:06 AM
Lap two, Mark has another alternator failure.
 
2013-11-03 07:36:32 AM
 
2013-11-03 07:45:31 AM

WhyteRaven74: for those who may not have heard http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/01/raikkonen-could-walk- a way-from-lotus-before-seasons-end/related/


Oh hey there Lotus bosses!  You want to even have a shot at #2 in constructors?  Then pay up sucker!
 
2013-11-03 07:47:35 AM
I'd really like to see Webber get a win before he retires from F1. Sadly, with how hard he's been on the car, I don't see it happening.

"Okay Mark, we're going to need you to short-shift, all gears." Or something like that.

Over/under on how many laps into the race it happens?
 
2013-11-03 07:53:01 AM

poughdrew: WhyteRaven74: for those who may not have heard http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/01/raikkonen-could-walk- a way-from-lotus-before-seasons-end/related/

Oh hey there Lotus bosses!  You want to even have a shot at #2 in constructors?  Then pay up sucker!


That's going to throw a serious wrench into their search for a replacement.  According to sources, if Quantum is willing to put up the money they'll put Hulkenburg in the seat.  Otherwise, they'll go the safe route and take Disastor and his Venezuelan oil money.
 
2013-11-03 08:03:54 AM
Now for everybodys favorite game: How many places will webber drop at the start?
 
2013-11-03 08:05:29 AM
Kimi knew what he was doing.
 
2013-11-03 08:07:32 AM

poughdrew: Kimi knew what he was doing.


Would love to see if it was one of those random "ithappenssometimes" Kimi spins or if it was backmarker related.
 
2013-11-03 08:10:02 AM
Kimi really should have known better than to try turn 1 overtakes on the backmarkers.
 
2013-11-03 08:17:43 AM

UNC_Samurai: poughdrew: WhyteRaven74: for those who may not have heard http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/01/raikkonen-could-walk- a way-from-lotus-before-seasons-end/related/

Oh hey there Lotus bosses!  You want to even have a shot at #2 in constructors?  Then pay up sucker!

That's going to throw a serious wrench into their search for a replacement.  According to sources, if Quantum is willing to put up the money they'll put Hulkenburg in the seat.  Otherwise, they'll go the safe route and take Disastor and his Venezuelan oil money.


That's not going to last long though, I've read that whole program is getting shut down due to massive corruption (in a Chavez-led initiative?  No wai!)  Everyone's getting cut loose, except for Maldonado; they're trying to keep his going but...

I'm guessing there's going to be a very unhappy team with a lot of unpaid bills and a seat available for the highest bidder next season.
 
2013-11-03 08:19:49 AM
 
2013-11-03 08:22:42 AM

Alexei Novikov: Kimi really should have known better than to try turn 1 overtakes on the backmarkers.


Leave him alone, he knows what he's doing.
 
2013-11-03 08:26:45 AM

UNC_Samurai: Alexei Novikov: Kimi really should have known better than to try turn 1 overtakes on the backmarkers.

Leave him alone, he knows what he's doing.


I'm actually wondering if he DID know what he was doing. I'd have a hard time believing that a professional would deliberately smack into a backmarker to spite his team, but I'm probably not the only one who's gonna ask that question. The F1 media seems to think he hasn't been paid at all this season and that he didn't really want to show up to the races for Lotus.
 
2013-11-03 08:28:36 AM
In other news, the UAE wants tougher laws against sorcery.  Vettel clearly has paid a sorcerer.

http://www.thenational.ae/uae/government/fnc-wants-tougher-laws-agai ns t-sorcery
 
2013-11-03 08:34:57 AM
"open the gap progressively" = keep your foot in it
 
2013-11-03 08:47:05 AM
Kimi leaves the track in a huff, Vettel destroying the field, Webber's car already showing signs of breaking...

Next season can't come soon enough.
 
2013-11-03 08:52:53 AM
I will be royally pissed off if Hulk winds up with no drive next year. The Sauber has definitely improved, but he's still been putting it where it really doesn't belong.
 
2013-11-03 08:53:34 AM

Jensaarai: Next season can't come soon enough.


you realize Adrian Newey isn't going anywhere right?
 
2013-11-03 08:55:06 AM

Alexei Novikov: UNC_Samurai: Alexei Novikov: Kimi really should have known better than to try turn 1 overtakes on the backmarkers.

Leave him alone, he knows what he's doing.

I'm actually wondering if he DID know what he was doing. I'd have a hard time believing that a professional would deliberately smack into a backmarker to spite his team, but I'm probably not the only one who's gonna ask that question. The F1 media seems to think he hasn't been paid at all this season and that he didn't really want to show up to the races for Lotus.


His only win was the first race of the season, in Australia.
 
2013-11-03 08:58:11 AM
Pretty exciting racing.  Except at the front.
 
2013-11-03 08:58:32 AM

UNC_Samurai: Alexei Novikov: UNC_Samurai: Alexei Novikov: Kimi really should have known better than to try turn 1 overtakes on the backmarkers.

Leave him alone, he knows what he's doing.

I'm actually wondering if he DID know what he was doing. I'd have a hard time believing that a professional would deliberately smack into a backmarker to spite his team, but I'm probably not the only one who's gonna ask that question. The F1 media seems to think he hasn't been paid at all this season and that he didn't really want to show up to the races for Lotus.

His only win was the first race of the season, in Australia.


No, I mean this race...I wonder if it was deliberate? Cost the team points, cost the team money in the constructor's championship, and spite Grosjean the new Lotus favorite by landing him Pastor the Disaster as a teammate, instead of someone that isn't an asshole, next year.

Speaking of, Disaster and Checo racing...safety car out soon?
 
2013-11-03 09:05:27 AM

WhyteRaven74: Jensaarai: Next season can't come soon enough.


This.

Kimi's off and Seb has a massive lead. Can't be arsed watching the rest of this race.

Maybe catch the highlights on BBC later on.

you realize Adrian Newey isn't going anywhere right?

Massive rule changes next season. It's a different kind of driving altogether.

Also, from Newey himself (in an article that credits the mid-season tyre change for Seb's dominance):

"Arguably with 20-20 hindsight you could say we pushed more than we needed to, because of course all the time we were pushing on the '13 car, we weren't working on the '14 car."

McLaren have also said they're putting everything into next year's car. So, hopefully, it'll be interesting to watch.

/Forza Kimi.
 
2013-11-03 09:06:11 AM
Vettel can pit at his leisure and still come out way in the lead. At least he hasn't lapped half the field already, course the last time that was happening regularly at the half way point of a race it was a Williams designed by Adrian Newey.
 
2013-11-03 09:09:34 AM

iron de havilland: It's a different kind of driving altogether.


It's a different kind of driving.
 
2013-11-03 09:10:18 AM

iron de havilland: "Arguably with 20-20 hindsight you could say we pushed more than we needed to, because of course all the time we were pushing on the '13 car, we weren't working on the '14 car."


I know there's a lot of rules changes, but Newey has been around for so long that it's old hat to him dealing with major rules changes.
 
2013-11-03 09:10:27 AM

WhyteRaven74: Jensaarai: Next season can't come soon enough.

you realize Adrian Newey isn't going anywhere right?


Yeah, but there's still the chance one of the many rule changes will throw a wrench in their season out of the gate... at least until they lobby for a fix halfway through the season. This particular season started out amazing, despite all the complaints about the tires.
 
2013-11-03 09:10:47 AM
Am I seeing that right? 2.7 second stop for VET?
 
2013-11-03 09:12:30 AM

cameroncrazy1984: iron de havilland: It's a different kind of driving altogether.

It's a different kind of driving.


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2013-11-03 09:12:45 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Am I seeing that right? 2.7 second stop for VET?


His first one was about 2.4 seconds.
 
2013-11-03 09:13:25 AM

WhyteRaven74: cameroncrazy1984: Am I seeing that right? 2.7 second stop for VET?

His first one was about 2.4 seconds.


Damn, Red Bull are good.
 
2013-11-03 09:15:41 AM

WhyteRaven74: iron de havilland: "Arguably with 20-20 hindsight you could say we pushed more than we needed to, because of course all the time we were pushing on the '13 car, we weren't working on the '14 car."

I know there's a lot of rules changes, but Newey has been around for so long that it's old hat to him dealing with major rules changes.


Yeah, but that's a quote from the man himself worrying that they've put too much into the 2013 car at the expense of the 2014 car development.

Also, where's Ross Brawn going to end up?
 
2013-11-03 09:19:27 AM

iron de havilland: but that's a quote from the man himself worrying that they've put too much into the 2013 car at the expense of the 2014 car development


I would take him saying that with a huge grain of salt. As for Brawn? Well, who has some money to throw at him?
 
2013-11-03 09:22:16 AM

WhyteRaven74: iron de havilland: but that's a quote from the man himself worrying that they've put too much into the 2013 car at the expense of the 2014 car development

I would take him saying that with a huge grain of salt.


Perhaps you're right.

I'm just hoping for a more open season. Watching the race for second is boring.
 
2013-11-03 09:23:42 AM
Sure, the one time the formula 1 Grand Prix is here in the US, I have to go to France.
 
2013-11-03 09:24:29 AM
Vettel is obviously taking performance enhancement drugs
 
2013-11-03 09:25:42 AM

iron de havilland: Watching the race for second is boring.


I can remember a race back in 91 or 92 where there were three cars on the lead lap, fifth was two laps down.
 
2013-11-03 09:26:59 AM

soopey: Sure, the one time the formula 1 Grand Prix is here in the US, I have to go to France.


don't worry, it'll be in Austin next year, and there's still talk of a race in Jersey
 
2013-11-03 09:29:16 AM
I was just thinking, this year has been just insanely accident free, save for a few front wings getting clipped there hasn't much in the way of wreckage.
 
2013-11-03 09:35:48 AM
On old prime tires Vettel sets fastest lap...because of course
 
2013-11-03 09:42:03 AM
SURPRISE!

seb
 
2013-11-03 09:44:27 AM
donuts!
 
2013-11-03 09:46:08 AM

WhyteRaven74: soopey: Sure, the one time the formula 1 Grand Prix is here in the US, I have to go to France.

don't worry, it'll be in Austin next year, and there's still talk of a race in Jersey


It'll be on at 8 pm on Sunday, I wonder if I can find a bar that'll have it on TV.
 
2013-11-03 09:46:48 AM
Seb's mechanics put an "That's easy" button on the steering wheel
 
2013-11-03 09:48:48 AM

soopey: It'll be on at 8 pm on Sunday, I wonder if I can find a bar that'll have it on TV.


I'm pretty sure you'll find somewhere to watch, F1 is a pretty big deal in Europe, unlike the US. And as for France, given one of the top drivers is French there's even more interest.
 
2013-11-03 09:51:09 AM
Rosberg looks soaked in sweat, Vettel looks like he just spent the last two hours sitting in the shade.
 
2013-11-03 09:59:41 AM
So, in two weeks, Austin!
 
2013-11-03 10:05:23 AM
ZOMG VETTEL JUST ADMITTED TO HAVING TRACTION CONTROL!!!!!111

/I'll give it to him, that was pretty funny
 
2013-11-03 10:14:58 AM
Well, ignoring Vettel, here are my random thoughts about the race:

Rosberg has been really impressive lately. What is it with Germans and cars/motorsports now, did they need another hobby to replace making war? I'm wondering what's up with Hamilton, he's been awful in the Merc after the tire change. Nice to see Webber get a podium. Too bad about Hulkenberg - I think it's wrong to punish the driver for his pit crew screwing up, although I'm not sure how it could be changed. What an absolute dog of a car the Ferrari is, wow. The Force India is REALLY good on tires.
 
2013-11-03 11:25:18 AM

Alexei Novikov: What is it with Germans and cars/motorsports now, did they need another hobby to replace making war?


Hitler just had it all wrong. They're not the master race, they're the master racers.


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