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(WHSV Harrisonburg)   Mother allows child to dress up as Klan member for Halloween. There's really nothing else to be said   (whsv.com) divider line 56
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2013-11-02 06:47:54 PM  
3 votes:

MagSeven: Bonobo62: Turbo Cojones: planes: Ok to dress up as the DEVIL on Halloweeen, but not as a klansman.  There is some logic there somewhere.

One is real, and one is not.

That doesn't explain anything. Why is it acceptable to dress up as a fictional evil, but not acceptable to dress up as a real evil?

Because people have to face real evil everyday. It's less close to home. Just the way it is. Also common sense.



Claiming "because common sense" is just argumentum ad populum, so let's look at "because people have to face real evil everyday."

How many of the complainers have to deal with the Klan every day?  What about costumes of other evil types? Those don't seem to elicit the same outrage.  Among the costumes I saw this year were an axe murderer and a drunk driver (there were also a fair number of "robbers" but most of them looked more like mimes, so I don't know if they count). Maybe it's because I live in the Pacific Northwest, but I've known more people who were killed by murderers and drunk drivers than by the Klan, but I still didn't get my panties in a wad over the costumes. Why are some evils acceptable and others not?  Is it the body count, or is it just a matter of political correctness?
2013-11-02 01:55:30 PM  
3 votes:

planes: Ok to dress up as the DEVIL on Halloweeen, but not as a klansman.  There is some logic there somewhere.


One is real, and one is not.
2013-11-02 01:52:23 PM  
3 votes:
If you're going to dress up as a monster for Halloween, hard to find something more monstrous than a klansmen.
2013-11-02 08:06:02 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: RRicochet: Personally, I think it's hilarious. Free speech rules.

I can agree with that. But, personal responsibility also rules and this mother doesn't seem to have that. Encouraging your child to dress in a costume that causes hurt or offense? Not terribly cool.


God forbid anyone might ever be offended by an image in this delicate, fragile society we've crafted.
2013-11-02 07:09:41 PM  
2 votes:

Bonobo62: MagSeven: Bonobo62: Turbo Cojones: planes: Ok to dress up as the DEVIL on Halloweeen, but not as a klansman.  There is some logic there somewhere.

One is real, and one is not.

That doesn't explain anything. Why is it acceptable to dress up as a fictional evil, but not acceptable to dress up as a real evil?

Because people have to face real evil everyday. It's less close to home. Just the way it is. Also common sense.


Claiming "because common sense" is just argumentum ad populum, so let's look at "because people have to face real evil everyday."

How many of the complainers have to deal with the Klan every day?  What about costumes of other evil types? Those don't seem to elicit the same outrage.  Among the costumes I saw this year were an axe murderer and a drunk driver (there were also a fair number of "robbers" but most of them looked more like mimes, so I don't know if they count). Maybe it's because I live in the Pacific Northwest, but I've known more people who were killed by murderers and drunk drivers than by the Klan, but I still didn't get my panties in a wad over the costumes. Why are some evils acceptable and others not?  Is it the body count, or is it just a matter of political correctness?


To some people, thought crime is more heinous than real crime.
2013-11-02 04:41:16 PM  
2 votes:
I don't think that if that kid showed up at my door trick or treating that I couldn't have helped myself from falling out laughing my ass off at him. Getting people angry is what his racist mom obviously wants from people. How could i do anything but laugh my ass off when I saw that instead of giving her what she wants? As I gave him some candy I would have probably told him something to the effect of, "Sorry your mom put you in such a dumb costume little guy. You can give her crap about it when you get old enough to understand."

And hell, she'll probably be happy if by doing this she makes him a social pariah that no one will let their kids play with. The social isolation only makes it easier to twist a kid's impressionable mind, and teach them that the world is all "us racists race realists" vs. "those liberal atheist multicultural pukes who just don't understand". Him being an outcast only will make it easier for mom to control him.
2013-11-02 04:21:12 PM  
2 votes:
Did the kid burn a cross on a lawn? Did he hang a brotha or a sista? No on both?

No story here, move on.
2013-11-02 03:41:04 PM  
2 votes:

Serious Post on Serious Thread: Fark_Guy_Rob: People should be free to dress up like as Klan members any day of the year.  Same with Nazis, NBA players, confederate soldiers, etc, etc.  Whatever.

People are free to do that. People are also free to call those people morons.

You're not really clear on how rights work, are you?

Whatever.


Sure - you can call them morons.  But, from the article:
Jessica Black says she has received several threats...

But please, do explain how rights work; because clearly I don't get it.
2013-11-02 03:29:04 PM  
2 votes:

Serious Post on Serious Thread: ReverendJynxed: MagSeven: planes: Ok to dress up as the DEVIL on Halloweeen, but not as a klansman.  There is some logic there somewhere.

Which one of these two things is something we can prove actually exists?

Looks like one could be considered evidence of the other.

Yup, just like my inability to see invisible purple unicorns is evidence of their existence.


I think his point was that you dipshiats are being pedantic believing that you are disproving a point. Real or otherwise, it's supposed to be a symbol of supreme evil, yet it gets a pass while a a somewhat lesser evil is intrinsically, invariably offensive.

/the real problem is that mommy dearest is a racist
//personal opinion on the costume would be that it should wait until the KKK and its ilk fade away into history where it belongs.
2013-11-02 02:02:06 PM  
2 votes:

AllUpInYa: scottydoesntknow: planes: Ok to dress up as the DEVIL on Halloweeen, but not as a klansman.  There is some logic there somewhere.

Well considering the devil can't actually be blamed for horrible or evil things (religious people might believe he did, but no actual evidence of it). On the other end, we have tons of evidence and proof that the KKK is a horrible group who have done atrocious things the past (and may still continue to do so).

Pretty easy to figure out actually.

So, no dressing up as a pirate or soldier, then, got it...


Or a cop.
2013-11-02 01:57:36 PM  
2 votes:

planes: Ok to dress up as the DEVIL on Halloweeen, but not as a klansman.  There is some logic there somewhere.


Which one of these two things is something we can prove actually exists?
2013-11-02 01:56:48 PM  
2 votes:

scottydoesntknow: planes: Ok to dress up as the DEVIL on Halloweeen, but not as a klansman.  There is some logic there somewhere.

Well considering the devil can't actually be blamed for horrible or evil things (religious people might believe he did, but no actual evidence of it). On the other end, we have tons of evidence and proof that the KKK is a horrible group who have done atrocious things the past (and may still continue to do so).

Pretty easy to figure out actually.


So, no dressing up as a pirate or soldier, then, got it...
2013-11-02 01:49:19 PM  
2 votes:

planes: Ok to dress up as the DEVIL on Halloweeen, but not as a klansman.  There is some logic there somewhere.


Well considering the devil can't actually be blamed for horrible or evil things (religious people might believe he did, but no actual evidence of it). On the other end, we have tons of evidence and proof that the KKK is a horrible group who have done atrocious things the past (and may still continue to do so).

Pretty easy to figure out actually.
2013-11-02 01:39:50 PM  
2 votes:
Ok to dress up as the DEVIL on Halloweeen, but not as a klansman.  There is some logic there somewhere.
2013-11-02 01:33:06 PM  
2 votes:

ongbok: Poor kid. I doubt any of the parents in that neighborhood are going to let their kids play with him now.


Oh, yes they will. Craigsville is the town that has a rebel flag flying on every other house (or trailer). Very rural. 12 miles from me one county over. Sigh...
2013-11-02 01:16:28 PM  
2 votes:
4.bp.blogspot.com
2013-11-02 01:16:11 PM  
2 votes:
What's really sad is that the kid saw the Klan in the movie  Fried Green Tomatoes  (a lesbian love story), and somehow didn't get the impression that they were  the bad guys.
2013-11-02 01:09:45 PM  
2 votes:
That kid has a bright future pumping gas
2013-11-02 01:01:56 PM  
2 votes:
As usual, the constitution means nothing to the Fark Libtard brigade. They just want to impede this poor, innocent child's first amendment rights!

No persecution like liberal intolerance!

/snerk.
2013-11-02 12:32:14 PM  
2 votes:
His mom maintains there is nothing wrong with the costume or the Klu Klux Klan, which she says still exists in Craigsville.

Well there's yer problem

/Heh, Ms. Black is a white supremacist
2013-11-02 11:53:46 PM  
1 votes:

too2ez: kling_klang_bed: santadog: kling_klang_bed: What would have topped it all off is if he did the dice game part from "Kentucky Fried Movie" while dressed up like that. What's the worst that coulda happened?

2nd time this week I've seen that movie title.  What does it mean???

It means see it if you haven't!

Exactly.  And add "The Groove Tube" and make it a double feature.



Lol, here's the one scene I was talking about. Enjoy! (and imagine that kid in the KKK costume doing this one!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqTpqIUWVrc
2013-11-02 10:30:13 PM  
1 votes:
Woah, Bonobo! "Dumb ass" is a made up slang word. Why are you offended?
2013-11-02 09:26:33 PM  
1 votes:

MagSeven: Bonobo62: MagSeven: Bonobo62: Turbo Cojones: planes: Ok to dress up as the DEVIL on Halloweeen, but not as a klansman.  There is some logic there somewhere.

One is real, and one is not.

That doesn't explain anything. Why is it acceptable to dress up as a fictional evil, but not acceptable to dress up as a real evil?

Because people have to face real evil everyday. It's less close to home. Just the way it is. Also common sense.


Claiming "because common sense" is just argumentum ad populum, so let's look at "because people have to face real evil everyday."

How many of the complainers have to deal with the Klan every day?  What about costumes of other evil types? Those don't seem to elicit the same outrage.  Among the costumes I saw this year were an axe murderer and a drunk driver (there were also a fair number of "robbers" but most of them looked more like mimes, so I don't know if they count). Maybe it's because I live in the Pacific Northwest, but I've known more people who were killed by murderers and drunk drivers than by the Klan, but I still didn't get my panties in a wad over the costumes. Why are some evils acceptable and others not?  Is it the body count, or is it just a matter of political correctness?

Are you a professional dumb ass or just a gifted amateur. "Why are some evils acceptable and others not?" Probably the duration and severity of said evil. If I walked around Ground Zero in a burning towers outfit on 9-12-11, I'd probably catch a beating. If I did it last weekend, I might get a dirty look or two. Gee I wonder why that is? I don't care if people are upset at costumes. You asked why they might be. I gave a few reasons. You don't want to offend everyone? Don't wear something that might offend nearly everyone. It's not that complicated. Can't wear your klan outfit without causing a stir? I don't personally care, but boo farking hoo for you.


If you don't know, just say you don't know. There's no need to resort to insults to hide your ignorance.
2013-11-02 09:23:57 PM  
1 votes:

snocone: Humor is just about the best counter attack to racism and hateism.
Pulls the haters out of the shadow where you can properly mock them.


Yeah if it wasn't clear she actually was a racist, I would have no problem with it.  Reducing them to a stupid costume you pull out once a year is a good thing.  Frankly, I want to see some tacky polyester made-in-China "Sexy Klan" costumes at Wall-Mart.

(I just realised somewhere out there at least one couple must have done a sexy Klan/Slave theme BDSM costume)

Jument: The devil is a fictional character.


A very large proportion of the American population would disagree with you there.
2013-11-02 07:22:04 PM  
1 votes:

Bonobo62: MagSeven: Bonobo62: Turbo Cojones: planes: Ok to dress up as the DEVIL on Halloweeen, but not as a klansman.  There is some logic there somewhere.

One is real, and one is not.

That doesn't explain anything. Why is it acceptable to dress up as a fictional evil, but not acceptable to dress up as a real evil?

Because people have to face real evil everyday. It's less close to home. Just the way it is. Also common sense.


Claiming "because common sense" is just argumentum ad populum, so let's look at "because people have to face real evil everyday."

How many of the complainers have to deal with the Klan every day?  What about costumes of other evil types? Those don't seem to elicit the same outrage.  Among the costumes I saw this year were an axe murderer and a drunk driver (there were also a fair number of "robbers" but most of them looked more like mimes, so I don't know if they count). Maybe it's because I live in the Pacific Northwest, but I've known more people who were killed by murderers and drunk drivers than by the Klan, but I still didn't get my panties in a wad over the costumes. Why are some evils acceptable and others not?  Is it the body count, or is it just a matter of political correctness?


Are you a professional dumb ass or just a gifted amateur. "Why are some evils acceptable and others not?" Probably the duration and severity of said evil. If I walked around Ground Zero in a burning towers outfit on 9-12-11, I'd probably catch a beating. If I did it last weekend, I might get a dirty look or two. Gee I wonder why that is? I don't care if people are upset at costumes. You asked why they might be. I gave a few reasons. You don't want to offend everyone? Don't wear something that might offend nearly everyone. It's not that complicated. Can't wear your klan outfit without causing a stir? I don't personally care, but boo farking hoo for you.
2013-11-02 05:47:43 PM  
1 votes:

Turbo Cojones: SirEattonHogg: Turbo Cojones:

If he came to my house I'd give him the "special" apple.


Blame the parent.

And exactly what good would come from that? Jessica Black of Craigsville, VA seems pretty proud of being a supporter of a vile white supremecist group.  No, the only way to slut-shame a person like that is with peer pressure.  The Little Grand Dragon, Jackson Black of Craigsville, VA has some atrocious role-models, and the saddest part is that he will never know it unless someone tells him. He in turn could perhaps help his mother, Jessica Black of Craigsville, VA to overcome her obvious mental issues.


Point of order.  The word you're looking for is 'shame' not 'slut-shame' which is a subset of shame.  Unless there is a hidden story that the lady is sleeping with the entire KKK, then you want to 'shame' her, not 'slut-shame' her.
2013-11-02 05:20:53 PM  
1 votes:
www.musicnotes.com

Who would have guessed that Jackson Browne's Redneck Friend was Jackson Black?
2013-11-02 04:46:46 PM  
1 votes:

Bonobo62: Turbo Cojones: planes: Ok to dress up as the DEVIL on Halloweeen, but not as a klansman.  There is some logic there somewhere.

One is real, and one is not.

That doesn't explain anything. Why is it acceptable to dress up as a fictional evil, but not acceptable to dress up as a real evil?


Because people have to face real evil everyday. It's less close to home. Just the way it is. Also common sense.
2013-11-02 04:45:23 PM  
1 votes:

cc_rider: John Buck 41: Cup_O_Jo: Virginia =Not SOUTH.

Could've fooled me. I was down there all last week. Saw more Stars 'n Bars than I could count and I couldn't understand a word anyone said.

Hmm...  Ordinance of Secession of Virginia
Oh yes, it's definitely "South".

Of course, not all people living there are as inbred and farktarded as this chick.


Do you think she's actually inbred? Or are you applying a prejudicial and derogatory stereotype to her based on where she's from?

You don't have to answer, we already know ;)
2013-11-02 04:44:26 PM  
1 votes:

Serious Post on Serious Thread: Fark_Guy_Rob: Serious Post on Serious Thread: Fark_Guy_Rob: People should be free to dress up like as Klan members any day of the year.  Same with Nazis, NBA players, confederate soldiers, etc, etc.  Whatever.

People are free to do that. People are also free to call those people morons.

You're not really clear on how rights work, are you?

Whatever.

Sure - you can call them morons.  But, from the article:
Jessica Black says she has received several threats...

But please, do explain how rights work; because clearly I don't get it.

Well, you're right about one thing, you clearly DO NOT understand how rights work.

Freedom of Speech, is freedom from govt action curtailing your speech. So unless those threats were from a govt entity acting in its official capacity, she didn't have her free speech rights violated. She's a victim of a crime committed by a civilian (death threats being generally illegal after all). But her right to freedom of speech was not violated.

So there's your explanation as requested. If you still don't understand I'll try to come up with a coloring book version or something more suited to your intellectual capacity. Just don't eat the crayons please.



Not that death threats are good or productive, but he's clearly made the common mistake of confusing the "right to say what you will" with "no one else having the right to say what THEY will in response".
2013-11-02 04:28:12 PM  
1 votes:
Virginia =Not SOUTH.

Could've fooled me. I was down there all last week. Saw more Stars 'n Bars than I could count and I couldn't understand a word anyone said.


Richmond Virginia = Capitol of the Confederacy = South
2013-11-02 04:28:09 PM  
1 votes:

Fark_Guy_Rob: Serious Post on Serious Thread: Fark_Guy_Rob: People should be free to dress up like as Klan members any day of the year.  Same with Nazis, NBA players, confederate soldiers, etc, etc.  Whatever.

People are free to do that. People are also free to call those people morons.

You're not really clear on how rights work, are you?

Whatever.

Sure - you can call them morons.  But, from the article:
Jessica Black says she has received several threats...

But please, do explain how rights work; because clearly I don't get it.


Well, you're right about one thing, you clearly DO NOT understand how rights work.

Freedom of Speech, is freedom from govt action curtailing your speech. So unless those threats were from a govt entity acting in its official capacity, she didn't have her free speech rights violated. She's a victim of a crime committed by a civilian (death threats being generally illegal after all). But her right to freedom of speech was not violated.

So there's your explanation as requested. If you still don't understand I'll try to come up with a coloring book version or something more suited to your intellectual capacity. Just don't eat the crayons please.
2013-11-02 03:52:03 PM  
1 votes:
I was down south once, and I was invited to a costume party, and I rarely go to them, I went to one when I was younger. I went in my underwear shorts, and I have varicose veins. I went as a roadmap. And I figure, what the hell, it's Halloween, I'll go as a ghost. I take a sheet off the bed and I throw it over my head, and I go to the party. And you have to get the picture, I'm walking down the street in a deep southern town, I have a white sheet over my head. And a car pulls up and three guys with white sheets say "Get in". So I figure there's guys going to the party, as ghosts, and I get into the car, and I see were not going to the party, and I tell them. They say "Well, we have to go pick up the Grand Dragon". All of a sudden it hits me, down south, white sheets, the Grand Dragon, I put two and two together. I figure there's a guy going to the party dressed as a dragon.
All of a sudden a big guy enters the car, and I'm sitting there between four klansmen, four big-armed men, and the door's locked, and I'm petrified, I'm trying to pass desperately, y'know, I'm saying "Y'all" and "Grits", y'know, I must have said "grits" fifty times, y'know. They ask me a question, and I say "Oh, grits, grits". And next to me is the leader of the klan... you can tell he is the leader, 'cause he's the one wearing contour sheets, y'know. And they drive me to an empty field, and I gave myself away, 'cause they asked for donations, and everybody there gave cash. When it came to me, I said "I pledge fifty dollars". They knew immediately. They took my hood off and threw a rope around my neck, and they decided to hang me.
And suddenly my whole life passed before my eyes. I saw myself as a kid again, in Kansas, going to school, swimming at the swimming hole, and fishing, frying up a mess-o-catfish, going down to the general store, getting a piece of gingham for Emmy-Lou. And I realise it's not my life. They're gonna hang me in two minutes, the wrong life is passing before my eyes. And I spoke to them, and I was really eloquent, I said "Fellas, this country can't survive, unless we love one another regardless of race, creed or colour". And they were so moved by my words, not only did they cut me down and let me go, but that night, I sold them two thousand dollars worth of Israel Bonds.
2013-11-02 03:12:17 PM  
1 votes:

Lady Indica: "It's suppose to be white with white. Black with black. Man with woman and all of that. That's what the KKK stands for. The KKK every year, raises money to donate to the St. Jude's," said Jessica Black.

Yup that's mom's "reasoning".


They donate to a Catholic hospital?

farm5.staticflickr.com
2013-11-02 02:22:14 PM  
1 votes:
Maybe it's because I live in L.A., that I view the KKK as an object of ridicule, more than something to feel threatened by.

/non-white
//blazingly white son
///been to a lot of concerts with lots of skin-heads in the audience
////and the pit of Dropkick Murphys concert
2013-11-02 02:12:24 PM  
1 votes:
People should be free to dress up like as Klan members any day of the year.  Same with Nazis, NBA players, confederate soldiers, etc, etc.  Whatever.
2013-11-02 01:57:26 PM  
1 votes:
These must be the Blacks Donald Trump is always claiming are his friends.
2013-11-02 01:56:00 PM  
1 votes:
Turbo Cojones:
And exactly what good would come from that? Jessica Black of Craigsville, VA seems pretty proud of being a supporter of a vile white supremecist group.  No, the only way to slut-shame a person like that is with peer pressure.  The Little Grand Dragon, Jackson Black of Craigsville, VA has some atrocious role-models, and the saddest part is that he will never know it unless someone tells him. He in turn could perhaps help his mother, Jessica Black of Craigsville, VA to overcome her obvious mental issues.

At a certain younger age range, most kids obviously admire their parents - no matter how f--ked up they are.  They don't see them as unemployed anti-social losers or people with nutty beliefs.  Kids will be told by their parents that everyone is against their family/group and they have a special status in life.  It's like kids in cults or other fringe groups and they believe it. Why not - everyone does seem to be against them.

Only maybe in their teens is when they start to question it all.  Like those teenage/early 20 something "defectors" from the Westboro Baptist Church.  Or that formerly white supremecist teenage twin singers - forgot their name.

So, bottom line, I'm not sure what influence you or anyone else would have on a primary school age kid.
2013-11-02 01:53:51 PM  
1 votes:
Personally, I think it's hilarious. Free speech rules.
2013-11-02 01:43:22 PM  
1 votes:
A handy flowchart...

img96.imageshack.us
2013-11-02 01:39:55 PM  
1 votes:
I dunno what so awful. I think it's a pretty bad-ass costume

maiden-world.com
2013-11-02 01:38:46 PM  
1 votes:

SirEattonHogg: Turbo Cojones:

If he came to my house I'd give him the "special" apple.


Blame the parent.


And exactly what good would come from that? Jessica Black of Craigsville, VA seems pretty proud of being a supporter of a vile white supremecist group.  No, the only way to slut-shame a person like that is with peer pressure.  The Little Grand Dragon, Jackson Black of Craigsville, VA has some atrocious role-models, and the saddest part is that he will never know it unless someone tells him. He in turn could perhaps help his mother, Jessica Black of Craigsville, VA to overcome her obvious mental issues.
2013-11-02 01:37:26 PM  
1 votes:
Oh Harlan, yeh did it!
2013-11-02 01:34:07 PM  
1 votes:
Additionally, there are NO african american families in the town. It is very, very small. No stop light small.
2013-11-02 01:25:46 PM  
1 votes:
Turbo Cojones:

If he came to my house I'd give him the "special" apple.


Blame the parent.
2013-11-02 01:23:49 PM  
1 votes:
Both TFA and the video get the organization's name wrong.  "Ku," not "Klu."
2013-11-02 01:20:31 PM  
1 votes:
b...b...but the supreme court said that racism doesn't exist in america anymore, and that's why we don't need the voting rights act!
2013-11-02 01:19:51 PM  
1 votes:
I haven't read the article or the thread, but how the fark does a little kid even know what the Klan is?
2013-11-02 01:17:38 PM  
1 votes:
Humor is just about the best counter attack to racism and hateism.
Pulls the haters out of the shadow where you can properly mock them.
2013-11-02 01:13:41 PM  
1 votes:
Racism and poor parenting aside, that "article" was one of the most poorly written things I've read in a long time...
2013-11-02 01:13:25 PM  
1 votes:
Craigsville is 12 miles from my house. Believe me, this is not surprising at all for that 'town'.
2013-11-02 01:13:01 PM  
1 votes:

ThatDarkFellow: What? Didn't you see the name?

It's cool. He's Black.


Do you know what's really, really sad?

I could see them using that.
2013-11-02 01:12:06 PM  
1 votes:
C ' mon now, that's still scary, right? right??
2013-11-02 01:11:51 PM  
1 votes:
What? Didn't you see the name?

It's cool. He's Black.
gja [TotalFark]
2013-11-02 01:10:46 PM  
1 votes:

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: That kid has a bright future pumping gas

relatives

FTFY
2013-11-02 01:09:57 PM  
1 votes:
Huh.  Was expecting Georgia.
 
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