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(ESPN)   Pete Rose says if he were a betting man, he would think that MLB officials eliminating collisions at the plate is about as likely as his being inducted into the Hall of Fame   (espn.go.com) divider line 9
    More: Interesting, Pete Rose, Major League Baseball, Hall of Fames, Alex Avila, Billy Beane, Buster Posey, Buster Olney, home -plate  
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2013-11-02 11:59:17 AM
is that the case, can you not block the plate if the ball is not in the glove?
 
2013-11-02 04:31:35 PM

hoodiowithtudio: is that the case, can you not block the plate if the ball is not in the glove?


Rose's take on it was a little one-sided; you can block the plate if you have possession or are in the process of catching the throw.

It's my understanding that if the throw is cut off and there is no chance of catching the runner with the relay, and the cutoff man doesn't make a throw, the catcher can be called for obstruction if he's blocking.
 
2013-11-02 09:34:51 PM
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RIP Ray Fosse
 
2013-11-02 09:57:05 PM
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2013-11-02 10:24:47 PM

EJ25T: hoodiowithtudio: is that the case, can you not block the plate if the ball is not in the glove?

Rose's take on it was a little one-sided; you can block the plate if you have possession or are in the process of catching the throw.

It's my understanding that if the throw is cut off and there is no chance of catching the runner with the relay, and the cutoff man doesn't make a throw, the catcher can be called for obstruction if he's blocking.


A catcher could be called for obstruction, but if there is no play at the plate, it is highly unlikely to ever come into play as the runner will score even if the plate is blocked.

I have no problem with catchers blocking the plate. And I have no problem with catchers or their teams deciding not to block the plate.

Also, perhaps the best play where the catcher blocks the plate resulting in a 9-2-7-2 double play and unfortunately the end of the catcher's career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGksb1YOFC8
 
2013-11-03 01:08:34 AM
I hate when people bring up the Buster Posey situation as a reason why this should be eliminated.  If Posey had tagged him out and not been hurt on the play it would have been a Top 10 play on SportsCenter and everyone would have been talking about what a great play he made and how tough, rugged, and scrappy he was for standing his ground.  The other thing that no one mentioned afterward and no one remembers is that the play in question happened about an hour after the end of another national league game that went to 1 innings and the Marlins-Giants game was in the 12th inning.  I'm sure that both teams in that game saw the out of town scores and weren't up to the task of playing another 6 innings to decide the winner so whoever had a chance to score was going to take it hell or high water.
The easy solution for this: If you want to eliminate collisions at home plate tell your not to block the plate or just eliminate the concept of tagging people for outs since it might leave a bruise or hurt someone's self esteem.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=310525122 - Reds/Phillies - 5/25/11

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=310525126  - Marlins/Giants - 5/25/11
 
2013-11-03 07:11:36 AM

dywed88: EJ25T: hoodiowithtudio: is that the case, can you not block the plate if the ball is not in the glove?

Rose's take on it was a little one-sided; you can block the plate if you have possession or are in the process of catching the throw.

It's my understanding that if the throw is cut off and there is no chance of catching the runner with the relay, and the cutoff man doesn't make a throw, the catcher can be called for obstruction if he's blocking.

A catcher could be called for obstruction, but if there is no play at the plate, it is highly unlikely to ever come into play as the runner will score even if the plate is blocked.

I have no problem with catchers blocking the plate. And I have no problem with catchers or their teams deciding not to block the plate.

Also, perhaps the best play where the catcher blocks the plate resulting in a 9-2-7-2 double play and unfortunately the end of the catcher's career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGksb1YOFC8


Nice video, I hadn't seen that before and had fun picturing the 9-2-7-2 double play before I clicked.

/not quite what I pictured
 
2013-11-03 07:53:16 AM
I remember when that Pete Rose headfirst slide happened. The announcer said it was like a blimp landing.
 
2013-11-03 02:26:42 PM

upndn: Nice video, I hadn't seen that before and had fun picturing the 9-2-7-2 double play before I clicked.


When you hear about it, you hear about how Martinez stayed with the play despite his injury, but you also gotta hand it to the left fielder. He put the throw where a catcher lying on the ground with a broken leg could catch it and make the tag in time.
 
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