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(Entertainment Weekly)   'Agents of SHIELD' doing 'Thor: The Dark World' crossover episode directed by 'Star Trek' actor Jonathan Frakes. Now will you watch? Does ABC have to get Han Solo in this show too?   (insidetv.ew.com) divider line 191
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2013-11-02 02:22:56 PM

hammer85: Deathstroke has been around since season 1. Their most recent additions are brother blood, black canary, ras al ghul/league of shadows, and hints at professor ivo and amazo.


See SHIELD, there's your problem, you don't have recognizable characters!

Fark, add NEXTWAVE, Power Pack, Squirrel Girl, Union Jack yet you add Scorch who gets axed as soon as we met him.
 
2013-11-02 02:25:53 PM

Ringshadow: Starting with the obvious, the man himself, Clark Gregg.


Fun fact: I have a coworker named Greg Clark.

Haven't seen him around much lately, though.  Part timer.
 
2013-11-02 02:27:30 PM

Ringshadow: Okay so how the hell did we get into this thread this far and NOT have pictures?!

Starting with the obvious, the man himself, Clark Gregg.

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Always keep in mind: Agent Coulson almost had Hawkeye kill Thor, with no need for higher authorization.

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Friends and allies now.

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Stopping here but honestly, I could keep going for quite a while.

/I tumblr roleplay and crossplay as Agent Coulson


CSB, but I got my picture with Lola at New York Comic Con.  I think I was even wearing my shield shirt that day.
 
2013-11-02 02:29:39 PM
Tom Hiddleston? Oh yes.

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Let's be honest here it was his acting that sold Thor.

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"Guys? I'm not giving them back."

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Shakespeare? Leather? Oh yes.

mouthybroadcast.com

This man brought a reporter on the red carpet soup because it's cold.

/seriously
 
2013-11-02 02:35:17 PM

Ringshadow: Okay so how the hell did we get into this thread this far and NOT have pictures?!

Starting with the obvious, the man himself, Clark Gregg.

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Always keep in mind: Agent Coulson almost had Hawkeye kill Thor, with no need for higher authorization.

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Friends and allies now.

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Stopping here but honestly, I could keep going for quite a while.

/I tumblr roleplay and crossplay as Agent Coulson


I forgot about you, and when I see you again it is so you can fangurl about Coulson.

Jeez.
 
2013-11-02 02:37:05 PM

eddievercetti: hammer85: Deathstroke has been around since season 1. Their most recent additions are brother blood, black canary, ras al ghul/league of shadows, and hints at professor ivo and amazo.

See SHIELD, there's your problem, you don't have recognizable characters!

Fark, add NEXTWAVE, Power Pack, Squirrel Girl, Union Jack yet you add Scorch who gets axed as soon as we met him.


Right, I also missed doll maker who is probably deadified, and as far as I'm aware count vertigo comes back for his third appearance in a few episodes.

My favorite part of season 2 is all the hints we keep getting on the flash origin. Particle accelerator experiment goes wrong.

Or else it's the most beautiful troll ever
 
2013-11-02 02:37:18 PM
I watched one episode and the middle aged guy from the movie just reminds me of Claires dad from Heroes.  This is not a selling point.
 
2013-11-02 02:37:39 PM
The Chrises?
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Yes, that's how they're referred to as by the rest of the cast.

But seriously, movies need more female gaze. You know how female antagonists always get that long leering pan shot over their bodies? Could I please have that for male actors too? Throw us a freaking bone here.
www.thor2.org

www.allstarworkouts.com
resources1.news.com.au
Say what you will he always looks like he's having fun.

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Will someone please explain to actors that this outfit equals Castiel?
 
2013-11-02 02:43:47 PM

Ringshadow: The Chrises?
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Yes, that's how they're referred to as by the rest of the cast.

But seriously, movies need more female gaze. You know how female antagonists always get that long leering pan shot over their bodies? Could I please have that for male actors too? Throw us a freaking bone here.
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Say what you will he always looks like he's having fun.

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Will someone please explain to actors that this outfit equals Castiel?


You mean Inspector Cleuseu.
 
2013-11-02 02:52:20 PM

TuteTibiImperes: ZeroCorpse: chewielouie: eddievercetti: 1. Kill off Skye
2. Get rid of Roll Fizzlebeef
3. Have the nerds have a bigger purpose,
4. Add a C list or B list superhero
5. Get AIM involved
6. KILL OFF SKYE.

You there, yes you. STFU.

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Go buy a Playboy, dude.

I want actors who can, y'know, ACT with their words and facial features and gestures; Not their boobs.

Skye is a terrible character. Chloe Wang Bennet is a terrible actress. It doesn't matter how much sex appeal they try to wedge into the show, it's still agonizing listening to her speak.

Really?  I think she's done a good job in the role so far.  The biggest complaints all seem to boil down to 'she's too pretty to be a hacker living in a van, thus she can't act'.  She can't help how she looks, but I think she's acted well thus far.  Give her time to grow into the character and it will get even better.


She's ok, but the writers are doing a horrible job of things. My complaints about her aren't that she's too pretty to be a hacker living in a van although that stretches my suspension of disbelief a bit. My chief complaint is that they are making her way too central to every plotline so far. Yes, we get it, she's useful and she has a reason for doing for what does but don't make her magically save the day constantly. Develop her more, make her more than just a hot uber hacker.

And for farks sake develop captain cardboard. Give the guy a real personality and past, or at least make him a bit mysterious like Agent May.

/never would have figured a show based on Green Arrow would be so much better than one based on SHIELD.
 
2013-11-02 02:54:26 PM

Trocadero: hammer85: eddievercetti: hammer85: I'm going to go enjoy my heroes fighting the league of shadows Wednesday instead.

Arrow? Really, that's the alternative?

You mean the show that's infinitely better than shield in every way, then yes, it's a pretty good alternative.

I know they brought Deathstroke and Bronze Tiger to the party so maybe they got something. More than the 5 second Gravitron cameo.

Bronze Tiger was a let down, but he's not dead, so you know he can come back. Deathstroke is still a "good guy" for now, although that could change very quickly. Black Canary's true identity is pretty ridiculous, but I like how they're using multiple episodes to show why that particular huge suspension of disbelief was warranted.


Eh I called that it would be Sarah way before it was announced.

My favorite thing about her so far is just how much better Sarah + Ollie do together than laurel + Ollie and especially huntress + Ollie.

The weapon swap in last episode was amazing, and this week looks like it's going to be those two throwing down with the league epically.
 
2013-11-02 03:00:39 PM
I haven't started the second season of arrow yet, but im pretty excited for it. It took about half a season for me to really get into that show, but it has direction from the beginning. You knew what it wanted to do and where it was going. I was never a green arrow fan, but they turned me into one. Shield needs focus. Really flesh out two characters. It shouldn't be hard to fix the show.
 
2013-11-02 03:01:03 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: TuteTibiImperes: ZeroCorpse: chewielouie: eddievercetti: 1. Kill off Skye
2. Get rid of Roll Fizzlebeef
3. Have the nerds have a bigger purpose,
4. Add a C list or B list superhero
5. Get AIM involved
6. KILL OFF SKYE.

You there, yes you. STFU.

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Go buy a Playboy, dude.

I want actors who can, y'know, ACT with their words and facial features and gestures; Not their boobs.

Skye is a terrible character. Chloe Wang Bennet is a terrible actress. It doesn't matter how much sex appeal they try to wedge into the show, it's still agonizing listening to her speak.

Really?  I think she's done a good job in the role so far.  The biggest complaints all seem to boil down to 'she's too pretty to be a hacker living in a van, thus she can't act'.  She can't help how she looks, but I think she's acted well thus far.  Give her time to grow into the character and it will get even better.

She's ok, but the writers are doing a horrible job of things. My complaints about her aren't that she's too pretty to be a hacker living in a van although that stretches my suspension of disbelief a bit. My chief complaint is that they are making her way too central to every plotline so far. Yes, we get it, she's useful and she has a reason for doing for what does but don't make her magically save the day constantly. Develop her more, make her more than just a hot uber hacker.

And for farks sake develop captain cardboard. Give the guy a real personality and past, or at least make him a bit mysterious like Agent May.

/never would have figured a show based on Green Arrow would be so much better than one based on SHIELD.


My complaints about Skye is just that she isn't a believable character and her entire backstory conflicts with everything she is.

I don't even care about the super hot hacker thing.

It's that she dresses like a supermodel when she says she's poor and not materialistic.

It's that shield is apparently a secret organization (avengers tony: a spy agency that hates intelligence is bad; iron man him never knowing about it) but drives around with giant labels on their cars.

Oh and somehow the girl who was never loved and sent from foster home to foster home somehow knows that secret agency kidnapped her parents which caused her to want to be a hacker and get trained by that guy in the last episode in apparently less than a year since shield supposedly went public.


Orrrrr you could go with felicity, who has been working in IT for her whole life as a job.
 
2013-11-02 03:04:47 PM
And don't even get me started on how they introduce coulsons being alive as top secret level 7 clearance yet not a single shield member has yet to be surprised at his survival
 
2013-11-02 03:06:09 PM

chewielouie: eddievercetti: 1. Kill off Skye
2. Get rid of Roll Fizzlebeef
3. Have the nerds have a bigger purpose,
4. Add a C list or B list superhero
5. Get AIM involved
6. KILL OFF SKYE.

You there, yes you. STFU.

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Your forgetting her other great performance.
 
2013-11-02 03:08:06 PM

hammer85: chewielouie: eddievercetti: 1. Kill off Skye
2. Get rid of Roll Fizzlebeef
3. Have the nerds have a bigger purpose,
4. Add a C list or B list superhero
5. Get AIM involved
6. KILL OFF SKYE.

You there, yes you. STFU.

And you idiots are why this show will never be good.


The show will never be good because it doesn't need to be good.

Just like the 1st Captain America movie and the 3rd Hulk movie, the show just needs to be there. It's part of the franchise and will not be good in its own right because that's not its purpose. It is filler. You can be entertained by it in the larger context of the franchise, but don't go expecting it to be good.

/hatin'
 
2013-11-02 03:08:11 PM
 
2013-11-02 03:17:53 PM
Superman Returns was better than Thor.
 
2013-11-02 03:18:30 PM

Zombie DJ: scamp-dun-emer: Well, I just had a public nerdgasm.

Right?
I'm so sick of the nerd hate about this show. If you  don't like it, fine. Don't farking watch it. But also, don't be part of that "dime a dozen" stereotype of nerds hating comic book things.
It's a TV SHOW SET IN THE MARVEL UNIVERSE!
WEEKLY!
It's not a knock off like Heroes.
"Oh, wagh! It's not good enough!"
Fark you.
I was watching spandex clad Captain America on his dumb motorcycle before most of you could even read, so if you say this is really bad, you don't know shait.

/I'm there for you Coulson


I couldn't agree more.

I remember, even as a kid, I couldn't understand why Cap's shield was plexiglass, etc. So, I don't get all the hate, except this is the Internet and everything MUST be hated.*

We're five shows in, and people are screaming about character development? Really, watch the first five episodes of Buffy, Doctor Who, or NCIS, or whatever show creams your jeans and all you'll find are broad brush strokes, and tiny, almost throwaway moments that -- in hindsight -- you see as great bits of character development.

I tend to believe the biggest part of this is symptom of our society's need for instant gratification. People want to stream the entire season on Netflix rather than watch one episode every week or so and let the story play out. If it isn't spelled out in bold letters and underlined they don't seem to get it.

Another group of critics seem to be of the "these writers couldn't write their way out of a wet paper bag" camp. While I haven't been pleased with every plot point, character line in the series, I'm not silly enough to suggest that I could do a better job -- which is what many posters seem to be implying. If you can, prove it. Write a fanfic that's better using characters that Marvel would allow you to use with effects that a TV show could reasonably be expected to afford that fits into the tight continuity that a weekly program has and do it on an extremely short deadline. I'll wait. **crickets**

These same people also tend to complain about the acting ability of the actors. Generally, they point to the acting of Brett Dalton as Agent Ward, saying he's too wooden. Well, given that his character is written -- intentionally it seems -- as wooden and stoic, who would you like to model his performance after? Robin Williams as Mork? (I would choose Tim Kang  who plays Agent Kimball Cho on "The Mentalist" -- He's great at it. To me, the performances are very similar. That's just my opinion, though.)

This group's attacks on the Chloe Bennet character bother me the most though (Not because she's my favorite character, she's not.) because they seem mostly rooted in her appearance.

The final group of posters are what I like to affectionately call "assholes". They don't really care one way or another about the show or topic at hand, they just like to shiat on everyone else's parade. Maybe mommy and daddy didn't love them enough (or maybe they loved them too much if you know what I mean), but either way they can't stand the idea of others enjoying themselves.

The only thing I wish for, would've liked more is for them to use some c-list, d-list characters. While I do believe Skye is going to be revealed as an established Marvel character, I don't see a reason why Jimmy Woo, Clay Quartermain, etc. couldn't have been used like Maria Hill was used in the Avengers movie. But that's a minor thing to me. Overall, I've enjoyed each episode more than the previous one. Is it a perfect series? No. But I enjoy it, my family enjoys it. And it has 100% more Coulson than any other show on TV.

*Critic, the second-oldest profession.
 
2013-11-02 03:28:17 PM

Walt_Jizzney: Superman Returns was better than Thor.


That's some quality trolling right there.
 
2013-11-02 03:30:25 PM
I want actors who can, y'know, ACT with their words and facial features and gestures; Not their boobs.

Skye is a terrible character. Chloe Wang Bennet is a terrible actress. It doesn't matter how much sex appeal they try to wedge into the show, it's still agonizing listening to her speak.


She reminds me of Eliza Dushku, in delivery of her lines and even in her appearance to a degree.

My complaints about Skye is just that she isn't a believable character and her entire backstory conflicts with everything she is.

It's that she dresses like a supermodel when she says she's poor and not materialistic.


No one said she was poor, just that she was living in her van on purpose. And, other than the pink dress, which might or might not have been hers, she dresses in everyday clothes.

It's that shield is apparently a secret organization ...

S.H.I.E.L.D. is not, nor has it ever been a secret organization any more that the C.I. A. is a secret organization. It, like the C.I.A. and N.S.A. is an organization with secrets, a espionage organization.
 
2013-11-02 03:30:47 PM

Ringshadow: The Chrises?
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Yes, that's how they're referred to as by the rest of the cast.

But seriously, movies need more female gaze. You know how female antagonists always get that long leering pan shot over their bodies? Could I please have that for male actors too? Throw us a freaking bone here.
[www.thor2.org image 408x500]

[www.allstarworkouts.com image 850x498]
[resources1.news.com.au image 650x366]
Say what you will he always looks like he's having fun.

[i49.tinypic.com image 500x347]
[static.tumblr.com image 850x531]
[i1-news.softpedia-static.com image 650x488]
Will someone please explain to actors that this outfit equals Castiel?


I remember when the shirtless scene happened, my wife just said "Oh. Thank you, movie."
 
2013-11-02 03:31:24 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: Walt_Jizzney: Superman Returns was better than Thor.

That's some quality trolling right there.


It was a superior film.
 
2013-11-02 03:32:18 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: .

She's ok, but the writers are doing a horrible job of things. My complaints about her aren't that she's too pretty to be a hacker living in a van although that stretches my suspension of disbelief a bit. My chief complaint is that they are making her way too central to every plotline so far. Yes, we get it, she's useful and she has a reason for doing for what does but don't make her magically save the day constantly. Develop her more, make her more than just a hot uber hacker.

And for farks sake develop captain cardboard. Give the guy a real personality and past, or at least make him a bit mysterious like Agent May.


She's been involved in every plot, but it's a small central cast, so that makes sense.  I don't agree with the mary-sue comments.  Ward and the science twins saved the day in the first episode, May and Coulson had just as big a role in saving the day in the second episode, Coulson and the science-twins did just as much as Skye in the third episode, Ward had a huge role in the 4th, and Coulson again in the 5th.  It's been team efforts all along, and yes, they do go to Skye when they need television computer magic, so perhaps there's a way to write those parts better, but it hasn't been the 'Skye saves the day' show.

hammer85:

My complaints about Skye is just that she isn't a believable character and her entire backstory conflicts with everything she is.

I don't even care about the super hot hacker thing.

It's that she dresses like a supermodel when she says she's poor and not materialistic.

It's that shield is apparently a secret organization (avengers tony: a spy agency that hates intelligence is bad; iron man him never knowing about it) but drives around with giant labels on their cars.

Oh and somehow the girl who was never loved and sent from foster home to foster home somehow knows that secret agency kidnapped her parents which caused her to want to be a hacker and get trained by that guy in the last episode in apparently less than a year since shield supposedly went public.


She seems to dress like any other woman that age, but maybe I haven't paid super close attention to the wardrobe.

I think you and I interpreted her back-story very differently.

From the way I understand it she got into the computers/hacking thing to try to track down her parents, and at some point along the way discovered the redacted SHIELD document.  

That may have led her into the Rising Tide and learning from the guy from the last episode, apparently buying into his 'information must be free' ideals and eventually pushing her to try to work her way into SHIELD.   Once in she started to see that they weren't necessarily the faceless evil organization she thought, and then her hacker-buddy showed that his own ideals weren't as pure as he'd represented them.

From the past movies SHIELD was clearly around pre-Avengers, and while they weren't involved in a PR campaign to promote themselves, they weren't exactly hiding their existence either.

So, it's not like she suddenly learned how to hack in a year after finding out SHIELD had something to do with her being put up for adoption, but rather her search for her parents led her to the computer thing which led her to the Rising Tide which led her to SHIELD.
 
2013-11-02 03:35:10 PM

Autolychus2: I want actors who can, y'know, ACT with their words and facial features and gestures; Not their boobs.

Skye is a terrible character. Chloe Wang Bennet is a terrible actress. It doesn't matter how much sex appeal they try to wedge into the show, it's still agonizing listening to her speak.

She reminds me of Eliza Dushku, in delivery of her lines and even in her appearance to a degree.

My complaints about Skye is just that she isn't a believable character and her entire backstory conflicts with everything she is.

It's that she dresses like a supermodel when she says she's poor and not materialistic.

No one said she was poor, just that she was living in her van on purpose. And, other than the pink dress, which might or might not have been hers, she dresses in everyday clothes.

It's that shield is apparently a secret organization ...

S.H.I.E.L.D. is not, nor has it ever been a secret organization any more that the C.I. A. is a secret organization. It, like the C.I.A. and N.S.A. is an organization with secrets, a espionage organization.


When her bf specifically says he took 3 million dollars so they can stop living in a crappy apartment and in a van, that pretty much says that they're poor.
 
2013-11-02 03:40:32 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Dingleberry Dickwad: .


She seems to dress like any other woman that age, but maybe I haven't paid super close attention to the wardrobe.

I think you and I interpreted her back-story very differently.

From the way I understand it she got into the computers/hacking thing to try to track down her parents, and at some point along the way discovered the redacted SHIELD document.  

That may have led her into the Rising Tide and learning from the guy from the last episode, apparently buying into his 'information must be free' ideals and eventually pushing her to try to work her way into SHIELD.   Once in she started to see that they weren't necessarily the faceless evil organization she thought, and then her hacker-buddy showed that his own ideals weren't as pure as he'd represented them.

From the past movies SHIELD was clearly around pre-Avengers, and while they weren't involved in a PR campaign to promote themselves, they weren't exactly hiding their existence either.

So, it's not like she suddenly learned how to hack in a year after finding out SHIELD had something to do with her being put up for adoption, but rather her search for her parents led her to the computer thing which led her to the Rising Tide which led her to SHIELD.


Maybe.
 
2013-11-02 03:41:06 PM
"Does ABC have to get Han Solo in this show too?"

Maybe as the director of photography. . .
 
2013-11-02 03:52:44 PM

frepnog: Dingleberry Dickwad: Walt_Jizzney: Superman Returns was better than Thor.

That's some quality trolling right there.

It was a superior film.


If it was better at all I can almost understand someone saying the cinematography to be better, but the story, acting and entertainment value? No, just no. I'll give you that Natalie Portman just phoned things in, but Superman Returns was shiat. Piss poor casting, ridiculously stupid storyline (Luthor and real estate again? Really?), and some bad acting all around.
 
2013-11-02 03:57:21 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: frepnog: Dingleberry Dickwad: Walt_Jizzney: Superman Returns was better than Thor.

That's some quality trolling right there.

It was a superior film.

If it was better at all I can almost understand someone saying the cinematography to be better, but the story, acting and entertainment value? No, just no. I'll give you that Natalie Portman just phoned things in, but Superman Returns was shiat. Piss poor casting, ridiculously stupid storyline (Luthor and real estate again? Really?), and some bad acting all around.


The only thing that worried me about Thor 2 is that NP is in it. Easily the worst part about the original which put it at the worst of phase 1 for me
 
2013-11-02 04:02:01 PM

hammer85: Dingleberry Dickwad: frepnog: Dingleberry Dickwad: Walt_Jizzney: Superman Returns was better than Thor.

That's some quality trolling right there.

It was a superior film.

If it was better at all I can almost understand someone saying the cinematography to be better, but the story, acting and entertainment value? No, just no. I'll give you that Natalie Portman just phoned things in, but Superman Returns was shiat. Piss poor casting, ridiculously stupid storyline (Luthor and real estate again? Really?), and some bad acting all around.

The only thing that worried me about Thor 2 is that NP is in it. Easily the worst part about the original which put it at the worst of phase 1 for me


I liked Portman in it.  If anything I thought Kat Dennings' character was shoehorned in.
 
2013-11-02 04:04:32 PM

TuteTibiImperes: hammer85: Dingleberry Dickwad: frepnog: Dingleberry Dickwad: Walt_Jizzney: Superman Returns was better than Thor.

That's some quality trolling right there.

It was a superior film.

If it was better at all I can almost understand someone saying the cinematography to be better, but the story, acting and entertainment value? No, just no. I'll give you that Natalie Portman just phoned things in, but Superman Returns was shiat. Piss poor casting, ridiculously stupid storyline (Luthor and real estate again? Really?), and some bad acting all around.

The only thing that worried me about Thor 2 is that NP is in it. Easily the worst part about the original which put it at the worst of phase 1 for me

I liked Portman in it.  If anything I thought Kat Dennings' character was shoehorned in.


See I liked Dennings' character more than Portman's.
 
2013-11-02 04:08:18 PM

LectertheChef: Shrugging Atlas: doglover: But really the time is nigh for a Deadpool movie. Marvel should really make that happen nowish.

Marvel has no control over the movie rights of Deadpool.  They're controlled by Fox which is why a character with the name shows up in one of the horrible Wolverine movies.

I don't get the love for Deadpool. Perhaps fun in small doses, but there's no way a Deadpool movie could work. He's a shallow, one dimensional character. It might play well to the hardcore comic book crowd, but that's about it. General audiences would receive it about as well as they did Spawn.


I really don't see the appeal either.  I liked the comic character in small doses early on, but now he's more over exposed in the comics than anyone aside from Wolverine.  Add to that the fact Fox's track record with their Marvel movie licenses and I'll pass.
 
2013-11-02 04:14:18 PM
doglover:

"Procedurals are popular. Marvel is popular. A Marvel procedural would be popular too!"

Combos often break down.

The French are funny. Sex is funny. Comedy is funny.  French sex comedies are not funny.
 
2013-11-02 04:26:10 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: TuteTibiImperes: hammer85: Dingleberry Dickwad: frepnog: Dingleberry Dickwad: Walt_Jizzney: Superman Returns was better than Thor.

That's some quality trolling right there.

It was a superior film.

If it was better at all I can almost understand someone saying the cinematography to be better, but the story, acting and entertainment value? No, just no. I'll give you that Natalie Portman just phoned things in, but Superman Returns was shiat. Piss poor casting, ridiculously stupid storyline (Luthor and real estate again? Really?), and some bad acting all around.

The only thing that worried me about Thor 2 is that NP is in it. Easily the worst part about the original which put it at the worst of phase 1 for me

I liked Portman in it.  If anything I thought Kat Dennings' character was shoehorned in.

See I liked Dennings' character more than Portman's.


Well, if you cast Kat Dennings and you put her character in huge coats the entire movie, you're wasting "two of her best attributes" as an actor...

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-11-02 04:54:29 PM

hammer85: chewielouie: eddievercetti: 1. Kill off Skye Get rid of Whedon
2. Get rid of Roll Fizzlebeef
3. Have the nerds have a bigger purpose,
4. Add a C list or B list superhero
5. Get AIM involved
6. KILL OFF SKYE. Get rid of Whedon

You there, yes you. STFU.

And you idiots fanboys are why this show will never be good.


Fixed.

/fanboys will never accept that their god is flawed and can't make a mainstream TV series last to save his life
//Buffy only succeeded on the WB, not a "real" network
 
2013-11-02 05:00:59 PM

Here Comes Everybody: rocky_howard: SpinStopper: Frakes knows his shiat. Don't judge him until you've seen how he does this episode ;)

Yeah, I'm soooo excited to see the director of Star Trek: Insurrection on a show that's already bad enough.

Sure, he directed First Contact too, but eh, Insurrection is just...wow.

Frakes directed a bunch of episodes for Leverage too, and was perfectly competent.

And my main complaint about  Agents of SHIELDso far is the lack of Marvel feel. I know Marvel IP is a minefield of permissions, but there are thousands of characters, places, and things to draw on. It's a SHIELD series, where's Clay Quartermain? Jasper Stillwell? Jimmy Woo? Countess Valentina? Any of those would be more interesting than the dull-as-dishwater characters we've been following so far. If this upcoming episode doesn't bring it, I'm off the bandwagon.

/yes, I know, who cares?
//stop don't liking what I like


I'd like to see them take a similar route to the one taken by GI Joe: Renegades.  They managed to introduce a dozen of the background characters throughout their one season.  Sometimes they would just pop up in the background (Wild Bill) or you realize part way through the episode that one of the characters is a future member of the Joe team (or would be if the show had continued).
 
2013-11-02 05:21:45 PM
This show has been far too cornball and at the same time incredibly dull. The team is terrible with no dynamic and full of overdone and tired typical characters.

Awful awful awful.
 
2013-11-02 05:28:03 PM

Autolychus2: S.H.I.E.L.D. is not, nor has it ever been a secret organization any more that the C.I. A. is a secret organization. It, like the C.I.A. and N.S.A. is an organization with secrets, a espionage organization.


We didn't formally aknowledge that the CIA existed until the mid-1970s, and we didn't acknowledge that the NSA existed until the mid-1990s.  We still haven't acknowledged the full extent of what the NSA does, though intelligence analysts have had a pretty good idea for decades.
 
2013-11-02 05:33:56 PM
The problem with Agents of Shield is eerily similar to the same problem Star Trek: Voyager had. (If you don't remember the show, good for you. If you do, I apologize for dredging up bad memories.) The pilot introduces what should be an interesting dynamic: The presumptive good guys, SHIELD/the Federation, are battling against ideological crusaders, the Rising Sun/the Angus McCree (or whatever their stupid name was, I'm too lazy to Google it), who think they're the good guys trying to fight corruption within the former group. Circumstances cause members of both groups to permanently join forces, and while there's initially some suspicion between the two sides, it's almost immediately handwaved away and everyone gets along just fine. So what was the point in setting up opposing teams in the first place?

Character dramas thrive on conflict, and that's exactly what's missing from Agents of Shield. For all her supposed untrustworthiness, Skye threw in with the team almost immediately. Properly written, her character would be the Fox Mulder of the group, working within the system in order to achieve an obsessive personal goal (Fox seek sister, Skye seek parents, ABC no seek originality), but forever concerned that the organization she joined is rife with corruption and treachery. And Shield SHOULD be tainted with bad apples, as any such ultra-powerful, answerable-to-none-but-itself authoritarian force would inevitably become. Coulson, far from being so pure and benevolent all the damn time, needs some much darker edges, and his two hired killers need to show the psychological scars that result from the work they do. The techies need to be conflicted with each other in some fashion as well, or else why the hell have two of them? I'm not saying the group should be totally dysfunctional, but there ought to be more of the internal catfighting you'd see with any collection of extreme personalities cooped up together for weeks on end. Real grudges and hates, not just the occasional frowny face and stern word.

But whatever. It is what it is and it doesn't seem to be aspiring to become anything more. I can always watch Farscape reruns to see the kind of interaction this show should have had.
 
2013-11-02 05:46:33 PM

TwistedFark: Well, if you cast Kat Dennings and you put her character in huge coats the entire movie, you're wasting "two of her best ONLY attributes" as an actor...


FTFY. Girl can't act for shiat.
 
2013-11-02 06:11:34 PM

EdgeRunner: The problem with Agents of Shield is eerily similar to the same problem Star Trek: Voyager had. (If you don't remember the show, good for you. If you do, I apologize for dredging up bad memories.) The pilot introduces what should be an interesting dynamic: The presumptive good guys, SHIELD/the Federation, are battling against ideological crusaders, the Rising Sun/the Angus McCree (or whatever their stupid name was, I'm too lazy to Google it), who think they're the good guys trying to fight corruption within the former group. Circumstances cause members of both groups to permanently join forces, and while there's initially some suspicion between the two sides, it's almost immediately handwaved away and everyone gets along just fine. So what was the point in setting up opposing teams in the first place?

Character dramas thrive on conflict, and that's exactly what's missing from Agents of Shield. For all her supposed untrustworthiness, Skye threw in with the team almost immediately. Properly written, her character would be the Fox Mulder of the group, working within the system in order to achieve an obsessive personal goal (Fox seek sister, Skye seek parents, ABC no seek originality), but forever concerned that the organization she joined is rife with corruption and treachery. And Shield SHOULD be tainted with bad apples, as any such ultra-powerful, answerable-to-none-but-itself authoritarian force would inevitably become. Coulson, far from being so pure and benevolent all the damn time, needs some much darker edges, and his two hired killers need to show the psychological scars that result from the work they do. The techies need to be conflicted with each other in some fashion as well, or else why the hell have two of them? I'm not saying the group should be totally dysfunctional, but there ought to be more of the internal catfighting you'd see with any collection of extreme personalities cooped up together for weeks on end. Real grudges and hates, not just the occas ...


The whole Maquis/Federation angle in Voyager did get downplayed pretty quickly, but I don't see that as the same dynamic they're trying to set up in Coulson's team.  The Maquis in Star Trek weren't trying to undo the Federation, and the only real ideological conflict they had with them was being left to fend for themselves in the DMZ between Federation and Cardassian space, or being told that their homes and colonies had been ceded to the Cardassians and that they all had to move.  Once Voyager was effectively teleported 80 years away from home, they had a common goal that benefited both groups equally.

Skye may have fallen in with SHIELD pretty quickly, but the big reveal was the last episode, so, we still have yet to see what the aftermath will be, if she's really on board with all of their ideas, etc.

From the trailer for Captain America 2 it looks like they're setting up some conflict between at least some of the Avengers and SHIELD.  AoS has hinted that Coulson's team operates outside of the traditional SHIELD hierarchy.  What I'm guessing they might be setting up is a HAMMER/Dark Avengers storyline in the long term.  It would make some sense, as those events followed the Skrull invasion in the comics, which is what the Chitauri invasion in the MCU was loosely based on.  Norman Osbourne would be off limits as he's part of Sony's Spiderman franchise, but using Justin Hammer from Iron Man 2 makes a lot of sense given he's a natural Stark competitor and the name fits.  Plus, we know the Iron Patriot suit exists in the MCU as well.

So, over the course of the series and the movies we could see a growing rift between the powers-that-be at SHIELD, Coulson's team, and The Avengers, culminating a Dark Avengers vs. Avengers plotline for third Avengers movie with AIM (who may be behind the 'project centipede' Extremis experiments we've seen so far in AoS), HYDRA, and HAMMER all involved.

The movies in-between will show key events leading up to that struggle while AoS fills in background information in between.

Or, I could be completely off base, but I think that would be a very cool direction for them to take it.
 
2013-11-02 06:19:25 PM

HotWingAgenda: TwistedFark: Well, if you cast Kat Dennings and you put her character in huge coats the entire movie, you're wasting "two of her best ONLY attributes" as an actor...

FTFY. Girl can't act for shiat.


I've seen the show a few times on airplanes (AA runs it) and I'm inclined to believe it's mostly incredibly crappy writing.  Is there another example I should consider?
 
2013-11-02 06:33:04 PM
I will watch when all of the actors minus the lesbian from SGU get acting lessons, and they at least try to make it look like they had a bigger set budget then the local high school's version of "Little Shop of Horrors."
 
2013-11-02 06:42:26 PM

HotWingAgenda: TwistedFark: Well, if you cast Kat Dennings and you put her character in huge coats the entire movie, you're wasting "two of her best ONLY attributes" as an actor...

FTFY. Girl can't act for shiat.


To answer my own question to a degree, she seemed to get pretty good reviews for Daydream Nation.
 
2013-11-02 07:03:50 PM

sinanju: HotWingAgenda: TwistedFark: Well, if you cast Kat Dennings and you put her character in huge coats the entire movie, you're wasting "two of her best ONLY attributes" as an actor...

FTFY. Girl can't act for shiat.

To answer my own question to a degree, she seemed to get pretty good reviews for Daydream Nation.


I thought she was good in 'Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist'.
 
2013-11-02 07:12:22 PM

eddievercetti: 1. Kill off Skye
2. Get rid of Roll Fizzlebeef
3. Have the nerds have a bigger purpose,
4. Add a C list or B list superhero
5. Get AIM involved
6. KILL OFF SKYE.


You are so wrong, you need to

1. Kill off Skye
2. Get rid of Beef Hardcheese, or at least develop him (saying he's a one man army over and over doesn't make him one)
3. Kill off one of the nerds, doesn't matter which. With Skye there, you have three useless nerds!!! One of them can handle hacking, and machines.
4. Add a sub-plot that matters to one of the movies, something we see all season long that can be explained by Coulson or Fury to the rest of the cast in the movie in less than a minute "we got intelligence about this from our team out in the field, here's Phil to explain it"
5. Have some larger overarching enemy they are working against.
6. Replace the elderly Asian lady
7. STOP MENTIONING COULSON BEING DEAD, WE GOT IT
8. Kill off Skye
 
2013-11-02 07:13:48 PM

smilingcorpse: I haven't started the second season of arrow yet, but im pretty excited for it. It took about half a season for me to really get into that show, but it has direction from the beginning. You knew what it wanted to do and where it was going. I was never a green arrow fan, but they turned me into one. Shield needs focus. Really flesh out two characters. It shouldn't be hard to fix the show.


Agreed. And I'm loving Arrow's second season. I really had my doubts and only watched the first episode out of curiosity, expecting a trainwreck. Instead, I got sucked into to a great superhero show that knows how to execute a story arc.
 
2013-11-02 07:14:11 PM

frepnog: I forgot about you, and when I see you again it is so you can fangurl about Coulson.

Jeez.


Well, gee golly, you mean I'm in a thread about a show I watch and an actor I like and I'm putting some pictures up? How dare I. Be glad this isn't an RDJ thread, you'd be really annoyed with me.

/again, I've cosplayed as the character
//as in I own four suits because of it
 
2013-11-02 07:28:03 PM

soporific: smilingcorpse: I haven't started the second season of arrow yet, but im pretty excited for it. It took about half a season for me to really get into that show, but it has direction from the beginning. You knew what it wanted to do and where it was going. I was never a green arrow fan, but they turned me into one. Shield needs focus. Really flesh out two characters. It shouldn't be hard to fix the show.

Agreed. And I'm loving Arrow's second season. I really had my doubts and only watched the first episode out of curiosity, expecting a trainwreck. Instead, I got sucked into to a great superhero show that knows how to execute a story arc.


This is good to know, as I had written it off unfairly as "Smallville 2".
 
2013-11-02 07:42:06 PM

soporific: smilingcorpse: I haven't started the second season of arrow yet, but im pretty excited for it. It took about half a season for me to really get into that show, but it has direction from the beginning. You knew what it wanted to do and where it was going. I was never a green arrow fan, but they turned me into one. Shield needs focus. Really flesh out two characters. It shouldn't be hard to fix the show.

Agreed. And I'm loving Arrow's second season. I really had my doubts and only watched the first episode out of curiosity, expecting a trainwreck. Instead, I got sucked into to a great superhero show that knows how to execute a story arc.


The best thing is how much they've set up the present/past.  They had so much planned out from the start you're only starting to see right now.  For instance, the "inmate" with Oliver on the ship is the big time Russian mafia guy that he says he saved to the mobsters in the first season that accept him.and help him out throughout.

And I actually enjoy how they set up "proto" characters before unleashing the main.

Yao Fei or "the hood" was proto Arrow

Billy Wintergreen was proto Deathstroke (Slade Wilson)

Sarah Lance is proto Canary (Laurel)

born_yesterday: soporific: smilingcorpse: I haven't started the second season of arrow yet, but im pretty excited for it. It took about half a season for me to really get into that show, but it has direction from the beginning. You knew what it wanted to do and where it was going. I was never a green arrow fan, but they turned me into one. Shield needs focus. Really flesh out two characters. It shouldn't be hard to fix the show.

Agreed. And I'm loving Arrow's second season. I really had my doubts and only watched the first episode out of curiosity, expecting a trainwreck. Instead, I got sucked into to a great superhero show that knows how to execute a story arc.

This is good to know, as I had written it off unfairly as "Smallville 2".


It's not, at all.
 
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