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(SanDiegoUnionTribune)   Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"   (utsandiego.com) divider line 147
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2013-11-02 12:02:41 AM  
Wherever we're from, whatever we like to drink, I think we can all agree on one thing;

Subby needs a swift coontpunch for using the 'Hero' tag
 
2013-11-02 12:05:22 AM  
According to Google Maps I have 63 bars, 8 strip clubs, 17 breweries and 5 distilleries within a mile of my place. I laugh heartily at all of you.
 
2013-11-02 12:06:49 AM  

SpdrJay: God, it must suck to live in places where weed is illegal and you have to pretend to be excited about beer....


what about places where its legal and you don't pretend cause the beer is awesome?
 
2013-11-02 12:10:20 AM  
I heard they recently decided to start adding more hops.

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2013-11-02 12:15:45 AM  
Vangor: hops.

It's the hops I don't like.

I have a superpowered sweet tooth, and I'm usually out of there at the first sign of sour/bitterness.

lordargent.com
// my small inventory ... I don't drink a lot, but I do try a lot of different things.
// missing cruzan rum (the rum of my peoples, I just brought 2L back from a trip home), and rumchata.

// yes I have two different types of sambuca

// that bottle of absolut vanilla is from a party 2 years ago, someone brought it, then left it, and now it sits in my cabinet collecting cobwebs.
 
2013-11-02 12:18:04 AM  

whatshisname: Some people are just bitter about this.


Others are just hopping mad.
 
2013-11-02 12:19:12 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Smeggy Smurf: Hops are the ketchup of beer.  They mask the fact that you suck at making beer.

We get it, you're a dumbass troll.  Do you have anything better to do than post things that you think will be offensive?  Seriously, it's like you think to yourself "how can I just try to say something inflammatory to get attention."  I get it in the politics tab, since people hold beliefs and opinions dear in there, but this is just a matter of personal preference.  If people want to drink Bud Light with salt sprinkled on it, none of the beer snobs in here care one bit.

I pitty you, so I guess you got some attention, which is all you ever really wanted.  Good for you.

/pats Smeggy on the head


You've never had good beer.  IPA is not a a good beer.  It's swill in par with Budweiser.  A good stout is where it's at if you must drink beer.
 
2013-11-02 12:20:03 AM  

SlothB77: Colorado is one of the best craft brew states in the country and that is usually a red state.  Florida has Cigar City and Saint Somewhere.  Indiana has Three Floyds.  Utah has Epic and Uinta.  Sweetwater and Terrapin in Georgia.  Abita in Louisiana.  Iowa's Toppling Goliath has off the chart ratings.


I seriously don't know if the guy claiming red states don't do beer was trolling or not, but it took entirely too long in this thread for someone to truly call him out on his nonsense. Georgia and North Carolina make stellar beers, Colorado is a true heaven, and MIchigan's pretty red.

Granted, the havens are all in the cities (Atlanta, Asheville/Triad, Denver, Kalamazoo) so take that what you will.
 
2013-11-02 12:21:35 AM  

Lunger42: pedobearapproved: aerojockey: So Cal Fark Party at each and every one of them

don't give people any ideas, I have yet to see a Fark Party in the actual city of San Diego.

THere was one at Comic Con. These kind of headlines make me happy to be in SoCal area. :)


There was also the w00tstout release party, at the new Stone location near the airport.
 
2013-11-02 12:22:37 AM  

lordargent: Vangor: hops.

It's the hops I don't like.

I have a superpowered sweet tooth, and I'm usually out of there at the first sign of sour/bitterness.

[lordargent.com image 850x306]
// my small inventory ... I don't drink a lot, but I do try a lot of different things.
// missing cruzan rum (the rum of my peoples, I just brought 2L back from a trip home), and rumchata.

// yes I have two different types of sambuca

// that bottle of absolut vanilla is from a party 2 years ago, someone brought it, then left it, and now it sits in my cabinet collecting cobwebs.


Doing it wrong man. They should look like this:

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Desk shelf from a previous job. Majority of those are rather expensive bottles of scotch.

/Why yes, we did have a Thursday afternoon Scotch time.
 
2013-11-02 12:24:00 AM  
Having lived in Germany for 4 years and sampling several of their beers....well, makes this thread pretty much suck for me. Schwarzbier all the way. It is like a meal in a glass. It is very filling. You know what they say: Once you go Schwarz, you never go back.

/ drink cold, crisp Coors Light here in the US
 
2013-11-02 12:24:02 AM  
I think that these guys are a big reason San Diego is where we are in brewing:


http://www.whitelabs.com/jobs-white-labs

It's not really about the hops....it's the yeast.  And San Diego is chock full of biologists and chemists who get a real professional kick out of yeast ranching.  Biotech hubs make for good brewing.
 
2013-11-02 12:24:26 AM  
Cheeseface: I seriously don't know if the guy claiming red states don't do beer was trolling or not, but it took entirely too long in this thread for someone to truly call him out on his nonsense.

The second anyone trots out anything about red state/blue state, I just ignore them for the rest of the thread.

Because I'm basically neutral when it comes to political leanings, so the crossparty bickering is especially useless to me since I don't care for either of them.

lordargent.com
 
2013-11-02 12:28:28 AM  

Cheeseface: SlothB77: Colorado is one of the best craft brew states in the country and that is usually a red state.  Florida has Cigar City and Saint Somewhere.  Indiana has Three Floyds.  Utah has Epic and Uinta.  Sweetwater and Terrapin in Georgia.  Abita in Louisiana.  Iowa's Toppling Goliath has off the chart ratings.

I seriously don't know if the guy claiming red states don't do beer was trolling or not, but it took entirely too long in this thread for someone to truly call him out on his nonsense. Georgia and North Carolina make stellar beers, Colorado is a true heaven, and MIchigan's pretty red.

Granted, the havens are all in the cities (Atlanta, Asheville/Triad, Denver, Kalamazoo) so take that what you will.


Even Texas has great beers, including Shiner and St. Arnold. Hell, even the movie theater brews it's own beer.

/Alamo Drafthouse FTW
//lots of microbreweries, and Germans
///the Shiner BBQ beer was their worst attempt
 
2013-11-02 12:29:47 AM  

megarian: Fark hops.

 
2013-11-02 12:34:42 AM  
Whatever, Portland for life.
 
2013-11-02 12:35:07 AM  

SearchN: Desk shelf from a previous job.


LOL. I have a bottle of gin stashed in my server room in a box labeled "spare cables".
 
2013-11-02 12:43:42 AM  
Here in the People's Republic of Austin, we're wrapping up Beer Week.
 
2013-11-02 01:15:46 AM  
It's not about quantity, it's about quality. In a town of just a few hundred lies Mad River Brewing Company. They've been winning awards at the GABF for decades.

/'bout a three minute bike ride from home, and on the way home from work.
 
2013-11-02 01:21:42 AM  

SearchN: Try 1 of these: <insert Billy's Chiles>


Billy's is ok, but it tends to whack you in the face with the amount / lack of balance in the chile.

I'd say try that but also check out San Luis Valley's (Alamosa) Valle Caliente. I think it's got a better balance / flavor.

8233design.com

Twisted Pine's Northstar Porter and Hoppy Man are their best brews, imo. The rest are ok, but there are better options for each style they make.

/there's no shortage of fine beer around these parts
 
2013-11-02 01:22:54 AM  

HotWingAgenda: SearchN: Desk shelf from a previous job.

LOL. I have a bottle of gin stashed in my server room in a box labeled "spare cables".


No stashed bottles there. Hell, even the CEO would come down for a drink with the us. I have pics of multiple pics of Directors, VP's and C level people coming down. Usually we would order a few pizza's, break out the scotch and kick back, bullshiat with each other and brain storm a thing or two. Usually started a few hours before the work day ended. The kegs were nice, as were the margarita machine they bought us. But, everyone came for the scotch.
 
2013-11-02 01:24:49 AM  

Lunger42: pedobearapproved: aerojockey: So Cal Fark Party at each and every one of them

don't give people any ideas, I have yet to see a Fark Party in the actual city of San Diego.

THere was one at Comic Con. These kind of headlines make me happy to be in SoCal area. :)


Hold on to that, that's about all you get. I'm can't stand the place. The entire $#!+hole can sink into the Pacific Ocean for all I care. I'll send you a rubber dingy mom, sis, and bro.
 
2013-11-02 01:25:36 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Smeggy Smurf: Hops are the ketchup of beer.  They mask the fact that you suck at making beer.

We get it, you're a dumbass troll.  Do you have anything better to do than post things that you think will be offensive?  Seriously, it's like you think to yourself "how can I just try to say something inflammatory to get attention."  I get it in the politics tab, since people hold beliefs and opinions dear in there, but this is just a matter of personal preference.  If people want to drink Bud Light with salt sprinkled on it, none of the beer snobs in here care one bit.

I pitty you, so I guess you got some attention, which is all you ever really wanted.  Good for you.

/pats Smeggy on the head

You've never had good beer.  IPA is not a a good beer.  It's swill in par with Budweiser.  A good stout is where it's at if you must drink beer.


Yeah, I've had hundreds of good beers; many in line with your apparent liking.  Just had a Big Slick Stout and Contorter Porter at Ale Asylum tonight.  Both malt-heavy, hop-light.  Making good beer is just as skillful with either hop-heavy or malty styles.  There's no need to denigrate hoppy beers; they in fact have played a vital role in the development of humanity.  Exploration by ship would have been far more difficult without the anti-bacterial properties of alpha-acids allowing for mass storage of drinkable fluids on ships.

Of course, since you said "if you must drink beer" I assume you aren't very appreciative of beer in general, so there's no point in discussing the finer points of the beverage with you.
 
2013-11-02 01:25:55 AM  

zobear: SearchN: Try 1 of these: <insert Billy's Chiles>

Billy's is ok, but it tends to whack you in the face with the amount / lack of balance in the chile.

I'd say try that but also check out San Luis Valley's (Alamosa) Valle Caliente. I think it's got a better balance / flavor.

[8233design.com image 172x480]

Twisted Pine's Northstar Porter and Hoppy Man are their best brews, imo. The rest are ok, but there are better options for each style they make.

/there's no shortage of fine beer around these part


As I said, its unique. I only recommend trying 1, if you like it go for it. If not, no real waste and goes right into cooking. Tried the others, I'm partial to the Blond myself. That's the one I sent Joe.
 
2013-11-02 01:28:25 AM  

www.mibeer.com And Beer Advocate's top 20



1 Heady Topper
American Double / Imperial IPA / 8.00% ABV
The Alchemist 4.71 4852
2 Pliny The Younger
American Double / Imperial IPA / 11.00% ABV
Russian River Brewing Company 4.66 1759
3 Pliny The Elder
American Double / Imperial IPA / 8.00% ABV
Russian River Brewing Company 4.63 7570
4 Founders KBS (Kentucky Breakfast Stout)
American Double / Imperial Stout / 11.20% ABV
Founders Brewing Company 4.62 5911

5 Bourbon County Brand Coffee Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 14.00% ABV
Goose Island Beer Co. 4.62 2643
6 Zombie Dust
American Pale Ale (APA) / 6.40% ABV
Three Floyds Brewing Co. & Brewpub 4.61 4208
7 Trappist Westvleteren 12 (XII)
Quadrupel (Quad) / 10.20% ABV
Brouwerij Westvleteren (Sint-Sixtusabdij van Westvleteren) 4.61 3541
8 Bourbon Barrel Aged Vanilla Bean Dark Lord
Russian Imperial Stout / 15.00% ABV
Three Floyds Brewing Co. & Brewpub 4.6 634
9 Parabola
Russian Imperial Stout / 13.00% ABV
Firestone Walker Brewing Co. 4.57 3089
10 Double Sunshine IPA
American Double / Imperial IPA / 8.00% ABV
Lawson's Finest Liquids 4.57 1002
11 Cantillon Fou' Foune
Lambic - Fruit / 5.00% ABV
Brasserie Cantillon 4.56 1136
12 Supplication
American Wild Ale / 7.75% ABV
Russian River Brewing Company 4.55 3409
13 Bourbon County Brand Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 15.00% ABV
Goose Island Beer Co. 4.54 5207
14 The Abyss
American Double / Imperial Stout / 11.00% ABV
Deschutes Brewery 4.53 3496
15 Abner
American Double / Imperial IPA / 8.20% ABV
Hill Farmstead Brewery 4.53 920
16 Hunahpu's Imperial Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 11.00% ABV
Cigar City Brewing 4.52 1688
17 Founders Breakfast Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 8.30% ABV
Founders Brewing Company 4.51 8588
18 Bell's Hopslam Ale
American Double / Imperial IPA / 10.00% ABV
Bell's Brewery, Inc. 4.51 7066

19 Trappistes Rochefort 10
Quadrupel (Quad) / 11.30% ABV
Brasserie de Rochefort 4.51 5392
20 Kuhnhenn Bourbon Barrel Fourth Dementia
Old Ale / 13.50% ABV
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company 4.51 1059


/Yeah, that's f--king right
 
2013-11-02 01:32:47 AM  

Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.


My brother lives in Longmont. I visited him last summer. The beer scene on the front range is amazing. He has ten or twelve breweries in cycling distance. The biggest downside? I felt like I was in southern California. It felt just as crowded and congested. You can keep your 10 minutes outside of Denver and your highway 78 all to yourselves, and sixty million others...
 
2013-11-02 01:39:11 AM  

Cog Spinner: Having lived in Germany for 4 years and sampling several of their beers....well, makes this thread pretty much suck for me. Schwarzbier all the way. It is like a meal in a glass. It is very filling. You know what they say: Once you go Schwarz, you never go back.

/ drink cold, crisp Coors Light here in the US


Yeah with beer once you go black you never go back.
 
2013-11-02 02:38:01 AM  
This is where the Hops sing!

cdn.backyardchickens.com
 
2013-11-02 03:18:24 AM  
See the cool thing about beer is that it's relatively cheap, and travels well.  So despite having laws that make it nearly impossible to open a small scale brewery where I live, I still get to have a local "Beer Scene" that is anything but.  Doesn't hurt to be employed at a place that specializes in North American beers either (National 10th). We've got 90ish beers on tap, and several dozen bottles along with some awesome food.
 
2013-11-02 03:23:35 AM  

pSPAZz: See the cool thing about beer is that it's relatively cheap, and travels well.  So despite having laws that make it nearly impossible to open a small scale brewery where I live, I still get to have a local "Beer Scene" that is anything but.  Doesn't hurt to be employed at a place that specializes in North American beers either (National 10th). We've got 90ish beers on tap, and several dozen bottles along with some awesome food.


Just looking at that menu I think I'd gain 10 lbs my first month working there.  That lobster poutine sounds awesome.
 
2013-11-02 04:20:11 AM  
TuteTibiImperes:

Just looking at that menu I think I'd gain 10 lbs my first month working there.  That lobster poutine sounds awesome.

I think I ate poutine almost every day for the first month we were open...  I just moved downstairs to eventually take over that kitchen, we do fancy tacos.  I really, really wanted a mushroom poutine today but was too busy to escape upstairs and get one.
 
2013-11-02 07:38:45 AM  
Real beer doesn't contain hopps.

Hopps are to hide "vomit in a can syndrome"
 
2013-11-02 07:57:55 AM  
I'm perfectly happy with the breweries in WNY, especially Southern Tier and Flying Bison.
 
2013-11-02 11:13:33 AM  
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San Diego.
We might not have any sports championships, but our beer and weather are the best. So...SCOREBOARD.
 
2013-11-02 11:35:05 AM  

W.C.fields forever: a particular individual: W.C.fields forever: My buddy just shared a Stone 11/12/13 with me.

Your buddy is from the future?

/today is 11/1/13

I told him..What I tell ya ..look at this post.

Time machine.


It's actual name is Enjoy By. It is a delicious Double IPA that is designed to only be fresh for a limited time. It's not meant to age. What you drank was "Enjoy By 11.12.13 IPA". It's the same tasty brew each time, but the name has the expiration date in it.
 
2013-11-02 12:39:28 PM  
This thread needs more Green Flash.  As does my fridge.
 
2013-11-02 01:56:56 PM  
I visited Stone Brewery for lunch and tour.  The tour was $3 and included 4 glasses of beer that they would refill for you once if you liked it.

Bought a bottle of Wheaton Farking Stout.  Eeeexcellent.
 
2013-11-02 02:19:07 PM  

SlothB77: Dont sleep on new glarus.


If you are hitting up ones around south-central WI, don't forget Tyranena as well. Their various limited edition bourbon barrel aged beers are very good such as "Who's your daddy" and  Down 'N Dirty Stout Aged In Rye Whiskey Barrels". Also their scotch ales are tasty such as shagging in the woods or sheep shagger. Painted ladies pumpkin is also decent, though I prefer whole hog.

Ale asylum's Bedlam! is also great, though a lot of their other beers are of the "throw a shiat ton of hops" in it variety.
 
2013-11-02 02:41:50 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: timujin: Like some others do with bacon or Sriracha, I really with this whole fascination with uber-hoppy beers would end.

At this point I think it's pretty much a self perpetuating myth. Yes, there are a lot of hippy beers available, but there are also a ton of not-hoppy beers being brewed in craft breweries all over.

Don't focus on the ones you don't like, focus on the ones you do.


I do, and I have a fantastic bar nearby that has a great selection.  But it does seem that, like with many popular things, breweries are following the trend and producing more hoppy beers over others.


GoodHomer: timujin: Like some others do with bacon or Sriracha, I really with this whole fascination with uber-hoppy beers would end.

I think part of the problem is that hops are being used to create only very narrow flavor and aroma profiles in IPAs, specifically high bitterness  mixed withlemon and grapefruit.

However, there are other hops out there that provide very different flavor profiles (Mosaic being one, which has a tropical, mango flavor and aroma) that could add a whole different direction in pale ales and IPAs. It's worth using some of these other hops in IPAs just to get something different, though it seems most brewers are only interested in creating bitter bombs these days.

/don't get me wrong, I do enjoy bitter bombs, but I also love variety


Huh... any suggestions on ones that use those hops?
 
2013-11-02 04:43:32 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: [www.mibeer.com image 850x680] And Beer Advocate's top 20


 List of 20 beers with a few Michigan breweries at the bottom


Lawl, only one beer in the top 10? Chicagoland laughs at your puny state.

5 Bourbon County Brand Coffee Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 14.00% ABV
Goose Island Beer Co. 4.62 2643

6 Zombie Dust
American Pale Ale (APA) / 6.40% ABV
Three Floyds Brewing Co. & Brewpub 4.61 4208

8 Bourbon Barrel Aged Vanilla Bean Dark Lord
Russian Imperial Stout / 15.00% ABV
Three Floyds Brewing Co. & Brewpub 4.6 634

13 Bourbon County Brand Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 15.00% ABV
Goose Island Beer Co. 4.54 5207
 
2013-11-02 04:46:01 PM  

Witty Comment: Oh, hey, don't forget about Greenbush in Sawyer or Paw Paw Brewing.. if you haven't been, they're both great too! My son's grandpa on his mom's side owned a small place here in town too called Old Hat. Formerly Duster's until Larry Bell sold it. New Holland is OK too, I guess.. I used to like their oatmeal stout a lot when I was just 21 but I've found it to be lacking now that I'm a little older.


If I recall correctly new  holland's old brewmaster left and went to brewery vivant in Grand Rapids.
 
2013-11-02 06:08:42 PM  
And I'll bet half the stuff the breweries churn out are IPAs/APAs with super crazy EXXXTREME hops contents.

/IPAs/APAs are for newbs
 
2013-11-02 06:21:07 PM  
Sitting here in Vermont, drinking a Heady Topper, the no. 1 beer on beeradvocate.com.  Looking at their top 250 list, we've got 5 in the top 50, 10 in the top 100. Not bad for a state with about 600,000 people in it.
 
2013-11-02 11:15:55 PM  
farm8.staticflickr.com
Fark you all! This is Hops Highway, Highway 12 in Washington State passes through the Yakima Valley which supplies 78% of the hops globally. My family farmed here in the 40s until they moved to logging.
 
2013-11-03 02:54:52 AM  

RogermcAllen: StreetlightInTheGhetto: [www.mibeer.com image 850x680] And Beer Advocate's top 20

 List of 20 beers with a few Michigan breweries at the bottom


Lawl, only one beer in the top 10? Chicagoland laughs at your puny state.

5 Bourbon County Brand Coffee Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 14.00% ABV
Goose Island Beer Co. 4.62 2643

6 Zombie Dust
American Pale Ale (APA) / 6.40% ABV
Three Floyds Brewing Co. & Brewpub 4.61 4208

8 Bourbon Barrel Aged Vanilla Bean Dark Lord
Russian Imperial Stout / 15.00% ABV
Three Floyds Brewing Co. & Brewpub 4.6 634

13 Bourbon County Brand Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 15.00% ABV
Goose Island Beer Co. 4.54 5207


Goose Island is owned by Anheuser-Busch.  So I wouldn't really call it purely Chicago, no.
 
2013-11-03 03:02:30 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: IntertubeUser: Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.

Missourah is a red state and they got some damn fine beer. MO by itself curbstomps the mid-Atlantic region for beer. I have high hopes for Bluejacket, though.


It was a revelation when I visited my Mother in Law in St Louis and we went out for dinner.  Sure, Bud was available, but so were a bunch of other options.  Schlafly was a pleasant surprise in itself, along with some of the best kraut and sausage I've had in a long while.
 
2013-11-03 04:49:56 AM  
Lazy Monk out of Eau Claire has built a solid base in its first year and is poised for great things.
 
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