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(SanDiegoUnionTribune)   Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"   (utsandiego.com) divider line 147
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2013-11-01 10:21:27 PM  

GRCooper: SnakeLee: The problem with going to those places though is that the food is terrible.  Stone brewery has awesome beer, a kick ass atmosphere, the tours are cool, and they have really nice servers/ staff / event specialists.  The food though is overpriced, almost certainly made by line cooks and there are only like 5 things on the menu anyways.  It's fun going there, but they really need to work on that

YMMV

I've been to Stone twice (my bro lives in SD), and their bison burger is one of the best I've ever had.


I went there a couple months ago and enjoyed it.  I didn't get to do a tour, but I did some damn fine beer drinkin'.  The food was decent (I had a pork chop, I think), but pretty overpriced.  I probably would've been annoyed if I hadn't been eating on the company dime.

What really surprised me was how packed the place was.  I was there on a Wednesday night and there was a 45 minute wait for a table and the parking lot was over capacity.
 
2013-11-01 10:22:37 PM  
That's adorable that they're doing that.

/northern Oregon
 
2013-11-01 10:26:19 PM  

SearchN: Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.

Boulder here, and no farking kidding. I can't throw a rock without hitting a brewery. Of course, when I do throw a rock its usually to break a window to get at that sweet sweet beer.


I just moved out here and I love it. I'm going to the All Colorado Beer Fest tomorrow in CO Springs and I'm stoked to be trying a ton of beer I've never seen before.
 
2013-11-01 10:30:46 PM  

meat0918: Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.

This.

Of course, I live where they are growing a good chunk of these hops....


This.

/craft beer is crafted
 
2013-11-01 10:33:24 PM  

timujin: Like some others do with bacon or Sriracha, I really with this whole fascination with uber-hoppy beers would end.


I think part of the problem is that hops are being used to create only very narrow flavor and aroma profiles in IPAs, specifically high bitterness  mixed withlemon and grapefruit.

However, there are other hops out there that provide very different flavor profiles (Mosaic being one, which has a tropical, mango flavor and aroma) that could add a whole different direction in pale ales and IPAs. It's worth using some of these other hops in IPAs just to get something different, though it seems most brewers are only interested in creating bitter bombs these days.

/don't get me wrong, I do enjoy bitter bombs, but I also love variety
 
2013-11-01 10:33:36 PM  
My "local beer scene"? Is.. Do you mean a bar? What is this... Maybe I'm just old.
 
2013-11-01 10:34:13 PM  

Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.


This.

I'm within 90 minutes of Founders, Bells, Three Floyds, and Goose Island. Lake Michigan area water is fantastic for brewing, I buy my hops locally grown too. An amazing area for booze in general. Some fairly decent wineries around, and now some distilleries are popping up too.
 
2013-11-01 10:36:12 PM  
San Diego here..living within stumbling distance to 30th.. I love this place!!!

/misplaced slashies
 
2013-11-01 10:39:33 PM  
I have a massive hop vine growing on my fence. Unfortunately a beer scene has not sprung up on my street.
 
2013-11-01 10:41:49 PM  

Franklin Delano Bluth: SearchN: Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.

Boulder here, and no farking kidding. I can't throw a rock without hitting a brewery. Of course, when I do throw a rock its usually to break a window to get at that sweet sweet beer.

I just moved out here and I love it. I'm going to the All Colorado Beer Fest tomorrow in CO Springs and I'm stoked to be trying a ton of beer I've never seen before.


I live in CO Springs and I didn't know. Saved by the Fark thread, just got tix. Thanks for the tip
 
2013-11-01 10:42:54 PM  

iron_city_ap: Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

This.

I'm within 90 minutes of Founders, Bells, Three Floyds, and Goose Island. Lake Michigan area water is fantastic for brewing, I buy my hops locally grown too. An amazing area for booze in general. Some fairly decent wineries around, and now some distilleries are popping up too.



Yep! There are... 3? wineries within 10 minutes of me.. Warner Vineyards, Lawton Ridge, and St. Julian. Not necessarily "good" wineries, but hey, they're there! Wine tours, biatches.
 
2013-11-01 10:46:30 PM  

Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.


West Michigan has a remarkable excellent-beer-per-capita ratio.

Here across the lake in Chicago, Founders and Bells are very popular and much appreciated.
 
2013-11-01 10:46:37 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: TofuTheAlmighty: IntertubeUser: Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.

Missourah is a red state and they got some damn fine beer. MO by itself curbstomps the mid-Atlantic region for beer. I have high hopes for Bluejacket, though.

The Mid-Atlantic has Dogfish Head, Victory, and Flying Dog which are great, plus a bunch of others I'm sure.  While they don't distribute, Iron Hill Brewery has a bunch of brewpubs in Delaware, PA, and NJ, and their beer is top notch.


Don't forget DC Brau.  If you are going to include Victory, then I think Troegs should be included.    Impressed to see a Bluejacket mention here.  A new brewery just opened up in DC in September called Atlas.  Tried their NSFW Black IPA.  9.2%.  Keep an eye on them.  It was good.
 
2013-11-01 10:47:51 PM  
Oh, hey, don't forget about Greenbush in Sawyer or Paw Paw Brewing.. if you haven't been, they're both great too! My son's grandpa on his mom's side owned a small place here in town too called Old Hat. Formerly Duster's until Larry Bell sold it. New Holland is OK too, I guess.. I used to like their oatmeal stout a lot when I was just 21 but I've found it to be lacking now that I'm a little older.
 
2013-11-01 10:48:40 PM  
I live in Calgary and I have to say that this city sucks for beer. There's not a single brewpub in town (Brewsters, a chain that brews crappy beer at a single location and then ships it to all their pubs, doesn't count).

The craft breweries in the province aren't much better, though Wild Rose and Alley Kat are pretty good.
 
2013-11-01 10:49:21 PM  

jaytkay: Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

West Michigan has a remarkable excellent-beer-per-capita ratio.

Here across the lake in Chicago, Founders and Bells are very popular and much appreciated.


You're like a hair over an hour off (depending on where in Chi I suppose) but exit 12 off of 94 you'll find Greenbush in Sawyer. It's a sweet place.
 
2013-11-01 10:49:50 PM  
Charlottesville VA doesn't suck. There are 3 breweries within walking distance of where my apt was, as well as an amazing beer store. Within 10 or 15 miles are another 3 or 4 breweries and at least 6 wineries.
 
2013-11-01 10:53:18 PM  

SlothB77: TuteTibiImperes: TofuTheAlmighty: IntertubeUser: Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.

Missourah is a red state and they got some damn fine beer. MO by itself curbstomps the mid-Atlantic region for beer. I have high hopes for Bluejacket, though.

The Mid-Atlantic has Dogfish Head, Victory, and Flying Dog which are great, plus a bunch of others I'm sure.  While they don't distribute, Iron Hill Brewery has a bunch of brewpubs in Delaware, PA, and NJ, and their beer is top notch.

Don't forget DC Brau.  If you are going to include Victory, then I think Troegs should be included.    Impressed to see a Bluejacket mention here.  A new brewery just opened up in DC in September called Atlas.  Tried their NSFW Black IPA.  9.2%.  Keep an eye on them.  It was good.


Lancaster Brewing Co is also another one of the good ones from the region. Their Strawberry Wheat and Milk Stout are simply wonderful. The Ruddy Duck in So. MD is also a great Brewery but like Iron Hill they don't distribute either. :(
 
2013-11-01 10:55:10 PM  

kkinnison: This is what i think of when i hear "California beer"


i184.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-01 10:59:49 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: IntertubeUser: Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.

Missourah is a red state and they got some damn fine beer. MO by itself curbstomps the mid-Atlantic region for beer. I have high hopes for Bluejacket, though.


Colorado is one of the best craft brew states in the country and that is usually a red state.  Florida has Cigar City and Saint Somewhere.  Indiana has Three Floyds.  Utah has Epic and Uinta.  Sweetwater and Terrapin in Georgia.  Abita in Louisiana.  Iowa's Toppling Goliath has off the chart ratings.
 
2013-11-01 11:00:18 PM  
I do not understand the whole fascination with Extreeeeeeme Ultra-hoppy Hoppin' Hopzilla Hopsecutioner Hopageddon Hopocalypse Hopinator von Hopsurg Ales.  I mean, if you happen to be someone who likes them, go to town - but I just don't get it.

/Big, fat malty ales FTW
 
2013-11-01 11:03:27 PM  
So hipster hell is hops highway? Color me stunned.

/quit it with the damned hops already
//oblig.
 
2013-11-01 11:04:12 PM  
The locals have a word for our beer scene.  They call it "Colorado."
 
2013-11-01 11:04:14 PM  

SearchN: Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.

Boulder here, and no farking kidding. I can't throw a rock without hitting a brewery. Of course, when I do throw a rock its usually to break a window to get at that sweet sweet beer.


Similar here: Madison, WI:
Brewpubs:
Great Dane
Vintage
Ale Asylum
Karben4
One Barrel
Next Door (Just opened a few months ago)
Granite City (not really a brewpub or microbrew, but still good)
Capitol
House of Brews

Distilleries:
Death's Door
Sugar Maple

/Doesn't even count all the surrounding area breweries, wineries, and distilleries
//Wow, San Diego, someone called you "Hops Highway"
///How quaint
 
2013-11-01 11:06:04 PM  
While a huge amount of breweries and brewpubs is great, I have found those rare breweries with nowhere else for many miles to make some of the best full range of beers. Best example of this is Nantahala Brewing Company which is tucked away in Bryson City and yet possesses such an incredible line. Have visited many breweries, there are often a couple of great beers with plenty of small batch and similar pilots which simply do not measure. However, Nantahala had no taps wasted.

I think having a high density of breweries puts pressure to cover the lager, pale ale, india pale ale, stout, imperial stout, porter, belgian, hefeweizen, blonde, rye, wheat, kolsch, bock, scotch ale, lambic, sour, etc., because of the expectation of this breadth. Throw a pilot brew out there every couple of months but have a solid set of three and do not spread yourself too thin; The Alchemist makes one beer, and this one beer is one of the highest rate beers in the world. Being a homebrewer, I have spent the last year trying to figure out the perfect mead to then build variations upon, testing honey and yeast and brix and aging and conditioning and racking rather than wanting to branch out to other styles.
 
2013-11-01 11:06:06 PM  
Hops are the ketchup of beer.  They mask the fact that you suck at making beer.
 
2013-11-01 11:06:19 PM  

Witty Comment: jaytkay: Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

West Michigan has a remarkable excellent-beer-per-capita ratio.

Here across the lake in Chicago, Founders and Bells are very popular and much appreciated.

You're like a hair over an hour off (depending on where in Chi I suppose) but exit 12 off of 94 you'll find Greenbush in Sawyer. It's a sweet place.


Yep, Greenbush, I've been there, recommended.
 
2013-11-01 11:08:41 PM  

iron_city_ap: Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

This.

I'm within 90 minutes of Founders, Bells, Three Floyds, and Goose Island. Lake Michigan area water is fantastic for brewing, I buy my hops locally grown too. An amazing area for booze in general. Some fairly decent wineries around, and now some distilleries are popping up too.


Dark horse out of michigan is fantastic. And they are distributing now. Really wanna try kuhnhenn - I couldn't find it even the week I spent in michigan. Shorts, new holland is good too. Dont sleep on new glarus.
 
2013-11-01 11:08:59 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: SearchN: Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.

Boulder here, and no farking kidding. I can't throw a rock without hitting a brewery. Of course, when I do throw a rock its usually to break a window to get at that sweet sweet beer.

Similar here: Madison, WI:
Brewpubs:
Great Dane
Vintage
Ale Asylum
Karben4
One Barrel
Next Door (Just opened a few months ago)
Granite City (not really a brewpub or microbrew, but still good)
Capitol
House of Brews

Distilleries:
Death's Door
Sugar Maple

/Doesn't even count all the surrounding area breweries, wineries, and distilleries
//Wow, San Diego, someone called you "Hops Highway"
///How quaint


Don't forget the new one in Verona that just opened up this week.
 
2013-11-01 11:09:01 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Hops are the ketchup of beer.  They mask the fact that you suck at making beer.


Hops are the salt in beer. Used correctly, they enhance the flavour or even add subtle tones of their own. Used to excess they just take over.
 
2013-11-01 11:10:19 PM  

Franklin Delano Bluth: SearchN: Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.

Boulder here, and no farking kidding. I can't throw a rock without hitting a brewery. Of course, when I do throw a rock its usually to break a window to get at that sweet sweet beer.

I just moved out here and I love it. I'm going to the All Colorado Beer Fest tomorrow in CO Springs and I'm stoked to be trying a ton of beer I've never seen before.


Try 1 of these:

beeradvocate.com

It's.. unique to say the least so I recommend to try at least 1. What I have found with them though... Best. Beer. Ever. for making beer bratwursts.
 
2013-11-01 11:10:40 PM  

GoodHomer: I live in Calgary and I have to say that this city sucks for beer. There's not a single brewpub in town


Wat? Do you have weird booze laws or something?

In the US it seems every crappy town near an interstate has a brewpub. We had the tech bubble in the 90s. the housing bubble in the 00s, and now we have the brewery bubble.
 
2013-11-01 11:11:49 PM  
My buddy just shared a Stone 11/12/13 with me.

/near there.
//it was tasty
///End of CSB
 
2013-11-01 11:17:54 PM  

W.C.fields forever: My buddy just shared a Stone 11/12/13 with me.


Your buddy is from the future?

/today is 11/1/13
 
2013-11-01 11:19:14 PM  
No, I can assure you that my local beer scene sucks, so I'm thankful for the out-of-state imports.
 
2013-11-01 11:20:15 PM  
SpeedyBB: It's probably biological. Your body chemistry is not compatible with hard drink.

I don't really like beer either, though I will have an occasional Guinness (mmm guinness and hot wings).

In my case, it's not a question of tolerance, it's a question of the taste (I just never acquired a taste for beer and wine). Plus from what I've experienced, I would have to drink a shiat ton of beer to get a buzz going.

// I prefer shots of vodka, rum, tequila or sambuca.

Sometimes, I drink one of the above mixed at a 1:2 or 1:1 ratio with some other liquid(s) (rum and coke, screwdriver, etc).

// cut myself off after seven shots of vodka in a short time period, because I don't like drunken slobs and I don't want to be a drunken slob. I can handle more, but after the eight shot, it's harder to say no to additional shots.
 
2013-11-01 11:22:26 PM  

a particular individual: W.C.fields forever: My buddy just shared a Stone 11/12/13 with me.

Your buddy is from the future?

/today is 11/1/13


I told him..What I tell ya ..look at this post.

Time machine.
 
2013-11-01 11:22:54 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Hops are the ketchup of beer.  They mask the fact that you suck at making beer.


We get it, you're a dumbass troll.  Do you have anything better to do than post things that you think will be offensive?  Seriously, it's like you think to yourself "how can I just try to say something inflammatory to get attention."  I get it in the politics tab, since people hold beliefs and opinions dear in there, but this is just a matter of personal preference.  If people want to drink Bud Light with salt sprinkled on it, none of the beer snobs in here care one bit.

I pitty you, so I guess you got some attention, which is all you ever really wanted.  Good for you.

/pats Smeggy on the head
 
2013-11-01 11:28:07 PM  
And since it honestly is a Fark CSB,

I made a bet with TheJoe03 about the Lakers sweeping and winning the finals a few years ago. I lost, he received a tasty Colorado beer in return. Farking shipping on it was $20.00, $9.99 for a 6 pack of those and he only got one.

Guess the lesson is simple. If I offer to make a bet with you on here, take me up on it. I'll pay if I lose.
 
2013-11-01 11:30:27 PM  

Witty Comment: iron_city_ap: Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

This.

I'm within 90 minutes of Founders, Bells, Three Floyds, and Goose Island. Lake Michigan area water is fantastic for brewing, I buy my hops locally grown too. An amazing area for booze in general. Some fairly decent wineries around, and now some distilleries are popping up too.


Yep! There are... 3? wineries within 10 minutes of me.. Warner Vineyards, Lawton Ridge, and St. Julian. Not necessarily "good" wineries, but hey, they're there! Wine tours, biatches.


I used to scoff at beer snobs but then I moved to Kalamazoo. I understand now. When offered Bud I sneered. My mom was not impressed.

/The only thing that is going to get me through this first full winter here is knowing there will be a fresh batch of Oberon at the end.
//Really need to get out to Warner, friend of mines family owns it.
 
2013-11-01 11:33:34 PM  
God, it must suck to live in places where weed is illegal and you have to pretend to be excited about beer....
 
2013-11-01 11:39:13 PM  

SpdrJay: God, it must suck to live in places where weed is illegal and you have to pretend to be excited about beer....


Because weed is so social and tasty?....
 
2013-11-01 11:40:31 PM  
San Diego and the greater California area is home to the best breweries in the world. We blow German breweries out of the water with their own styles nowadays, and if you dont believe that you better bring your ass down here (with a compliment of "designated drivers" because theyre gonna ditch you after your 2nd pilsner). Northern CA brings the dank in addition; we dont drink piss round here. Good beer is the expected, dont you bring some piss.
 
2013-11-01 11:40:51 PM  
TofuTheAlmighty:
Flying Dog has some good stuff. DFH is good in the sense of that-was-nice-for-one-bottle but they're coasting on past success. And I've never been enamored of Victory (though my experience is limited). Weyerbacher is growing on me and DuClaw puts out the occasional nifty brew. Still, I'd gladly trade all of those for Boulevard, Schlafly, and Perennial.

DFH makes a lot of great stuff, but they also like to experiment and play around.  The beers they offer consistently are pretty much all excellent, and their 60 Minute IPA is the standard for the style IMO.  Their experimental beers are hit and miss.  I admire then for doing it, and I try them when I can get them, but some work, and some just don't.  Still, like they say, you have to break some eggs to bake a cake, so I'm sure they're learning from the mistakes and what they learn will go into better beers in the future.
 
2013-11-01 11:42:39 PM  

whatshisname: SpdrJay: God, it must suck to live in places where weed is illegal and you have to pretend to be excited about beer....

Because weed is so social and tasty?....


Pretty much...
 
2013-11-01 11:42:54 PM  

lordargent: In my case, it's not a question of tolerance, it's a question of the taste (I just never acquired a taste for beer and wine).


What is interesting is how tastes change. I never started drinking the breadth of beer I do until two years ago when my brother and I went shopping for beer for the holidays while with the folks, and he picked Rogue Dead Guy Ale and Stone Arrogant Bastard. Now, I have about hundreds of unique craft bottles lining shelves. I even remember some years back him getting Dogfish Head 60 Minute IPA and how I struggled to even drink half a bottle; today, the idea of a 60 IBU beer registering as bitter is amusing. Have to find the correct beer to get you into enjoying malt and hops.

lordargent: Plus from what I've experienced, I would have to drink a shiat ton of beer to get a buzz going.


Depends highly on the beer. As a major fan of barley wines, downing half a bomber of Old Guardian or a bottle of Blithering Idiot is comparable to a relatively strong mixed drink, but the alcohol content is a product of the flavors of the beer rather than intention to get drunk which means I enjoy what I drink more than most, and therefore find I drink easier than most.
 
2013-11-01 11:46:12 PM  

SpdrJay: whatshisname: SpdrJay: God, it must suck to live in places where weed is illegal and you have to pretend to be excited about beer....

Because weed is so social and tasty?....

Pretty much...


I find weed these days to pretty much put everyone into a coma. It's interesting and introspective, but certainly nothing like a night at the pub
 
2013-11-01 11:48:52 PM  

whatshisname: SpdrJay: whatshisname: SpdrJay: God, it must suck to live in places where weed is illegal and you have to pretend to be excited about beer....

Because weed is so social and tasty?....

Pretty much...

I find weed these days to pretty much put everyone into a coma. It's interesting and introspective, but certainly nothing like a night at the pub


Depends on the strain. Can find some that are "body highs" and some that are "cerebral highs".
 
2013-11-01 11:51:12 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Hops are the ketchup of beer.  They mask the fact that you suck at making beer.


Yo dawg I heard you like hops so I put hops in your hops
 
2013-11-01 11:56:21 PM  
I live about 5 miles from the 78. To complete your hipster beer extravaganza, you must eat at the Yellow Deli in Vista. It is owned and run by a cult of yurt-dwelling hippie messianic Jews. I am not kidding. It's farking awesome inside, like you're eating at the Green Dragon, and the food is decent.
 
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