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(SanDiego UnionTribune)   Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"   (utsandiego.com ) divider line
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2013-11-01 06:17:19 PM  
*starts making a checklist*
 
2013-11-01 07:38:12 PM  
Needs a list. Starting with Latitude 33.
 
2013-11-01 07:50:25 PM  
Quantity does not always equal quality, but lots of competition does.

Sounds like a stop worth making.
 
2013-11-01 07:58:14 PM  
So, avoid all of the drunk drivers there?
 
2013-11-01 07:58:55 PM  
Like some others do with bacon or Sriracha, I really with this whole fascination with uber-hoppy beers would end.
 
2013-11-01 08:29:39 PM  

timujin: Like some others do with bacon or Sriracha, I really with this whole fascination with uber-hoppy beers would end.


At this point I think it's pretty much a self perpetuating myth. Yes, there are a lot of hippy beers available, but there are also a ton of not-hoppy beers being brewed in craft breweries all over.

Don't focus on the ones you don't like, focus on the ones you do.
 
2013-11-01 08:31:00 PM  
Apparently my auto correct doesn't like hoppy either. Hippy=hoppy.
 
2013-11-01 09:28:04 PM  
Hwy 78 is amazing. It is my favorite part about living down here.
 
2013-11-01 09:28:27 PM  
meh. I'd just as soon be sitting in pacific shores drinking double jim beam and cokes

of course, it'd have to be 1995 again when I was younger and there was this lonely navy wife, you see, and....


meh
 
2013-11-01 09:28:34 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Apparently my auto correct doesn't like hoppy either. Hippy=hoppy.


Same thing.
 
2013-11-01 09:29:13 PM  
Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.
 
2013-11-01 09:30:40 PM  
A: "Hops Highway"
Q: How does Frogger get to the next level?

needcoffee.cachefly.net
 
2013-11-01 09:33:55 PM  
Fark hops.
 
2013-11-01 09:34:00 PM  

IntertubeUser: Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.


Missourah is a red state and they got some damn fine beer. MO by itself curbstomps the mid-Atlantic region for beer. I have high hopes for Bluejacket, though.
 
2013-11-01 09:35:52 PM  
As someone who moved to San Diego a year ago and discovered their awesome beer - i'm getting a kick.
 
2013-11-01 09:38:20 PM  
So Cal Fark Party at each and every one of them
 
2013-11-01 09:40:42 PM  
I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2013-11-01 09:41:41 PM  
When I think beer, I don't think San Diego. And I live here.
 
2013-11-01 09:44:32 PM  

Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.


My husband's from San Diego, and my mother's from Grand Rapids. I've got all kinds of beer luck!

/Truth be told, the beer is really the only thing GR has going for it.
//Other than my relatives.
///Well, some of them...
 
2013-11-01 09:44:40 PM  

JonBuck: When I think beer, I don't think San Diego. And I live here.


I know at least 4 different guys here in San Diego that do homebrewing, and I've toured at least 4 or 5 of the many different microbreweries. Hell, I work across the street from a microbrewery.

/yes, I've gotten to taste Tactical Nuclear Penguin
 
2013-11-01 09:45:31 PM  
HOME SWEET HOME!!!!
 
2013-11-01 09:46:25 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Apparently my auto correct doesn't like hoppy either. Hippy=hoppy.



Oh,oh-oh! You see, the kids these days, they drink the craft beers, which gives them the brain damage. With the hippin' and the hoppin' and the bippin' and the boppin', they don't know what good beer is all about. Y'see, beer is like Jello pudding... no, that's not it. Beer is like Kodak film... no, that's not right neither. I've got it, beer is like the new Coke - it'll be around forever.

/Guinness at the moment, homebrewed porter earlier
//Running out of both, need to fix that.
 
2013-11-01 09:47:21 PM  
That's not even where the good beer is.
 
2013-11-01 09:48:28 PM  
The problem with going to those places though is that the food is terrible.  Stone brewery has awesome beer, a kick ass atmosphere, the tours are cool, and they have really nice servers/ staff / event specialists.  The food though is overpriced, almost certainly made by line cooks and there are only like 5 things on the menu anyways.  It's fun going there, but they really need to work on that
 
2013-11-01 09:49:37 PM  

JonBuck: When I think beer, I don't think San Diego. And I live here.


Then you haven't a fark'n clue where you live.  Which is pretty sad.
 
2013-11-01 09:49:42 PM  

aerojockey: So Cal Fark Party at each and every one of them


don't give people any ideas, I have yet to see a Fark Party in the actual city of San Diego.
 
2013-11-01 09:50:00 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: IntertubeUser: Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.

Missourah is a red state and they got some damn fine beer. MO by itself curbstomps the mid-Atlantic region for beer. I have high hopes for Bluejacket, though.


The Mid-Atlantic has Dogfish Head, Victory, and Flying Dog which are great, plus a bunch of others I'm sure.  While they don't distribute, Iron Hill Brewery has a bunch of brewpubs in Delaware, PA, and NJ, and their beer is top notch.
 
2013-11-01 09:50:55 PM  

a particular individual: A: "Hops Highway"
Q: How does Frogger get to the next level?

[needcoffee.cachefly.net image 250x241]


i275.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-01 09:52:59 PM  

pedobearapproved: aerojockey: So Cal Fark Party at each and every one of them

don't give people any ideas, I have yet to see a Fark Party in the actual city of San Diego.


THere was one at Comic Con. These kind of headlines make me happy to be in SoCal area. :)
 
2013-11-01 09:53:54 PM  

JonBuck: When I think beer, I don't think San Diego. And I live here.


Talk about a fail on your part.

For several years, I lived down the road from the San Marcos Brewery. Not only is their beer delicious, but their food is awesome, too.


SnakeLee: The problem with going to those places though is that the food is terrible.


San Marcos Brewery has awesome food. I recommend the chicken tortilla soup, burger, sausage platter, fish and chips, and for lunch you can't lose with the French dip (best one I've ever had) or their reuben.
 
2013-11-01 09:54:52 PM  
Hops blech.
 
2013-11-01 09:55:32 PM  
If by "local beer scene" you mean this:

www.esquire.com

Then yes, I do think it's good.

/Don't know shiat about your "beer scene" so I won't say anything about it
//There's also a microbrewery in my town but I don't care for it
///Threes
 
2013-11-01 09:57:57 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: IntertubeUser: Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.

Missourah is a red state and they got some damn fine beer. MO by itself curbstomps the mid-Atlantic region for beer. I have high hopes for Bluejacket, though.


I'll be deep in the cold cold ground before I recognize Missourah.
 
2013-11-01 09:58:21 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: JonBuck: When I think beer, I don't think San Diego. And I live here.

Talk about a fail on your part.


Is it a fail on my part if I didn't know because I don't drink beer? I've tried various types of alcoholic drinks over the years and I can't find a single one I like.
 
2013-11-01 10:01:27 PM  

The_Sponge: a particular individual: A: "Hops Highway"
Q: How does Frogger get to the next level?

[needcoffee.cachefly.net image 250x241]

[i275.photobucket.com image 300x225]


Thankyouverymuch. I'll be here all week.
 
2013-11-01 10:02:24 PM  

Iworkformsn: Hwy 78 is amazing. It is my favorite part about living down here.


In that it links I-5 and I-15 in north county it is pretty useful,but amazing?  don't think so.  and i lived down there for 25 years.
 
2013-11-01 10:04:46 PM  
Some people are just bitter about this.
 
2013-11-01 10:05:11 PM  

JonBuck: Mike Chewbacca: JonBuck: When I think beer, I don't think San Diego. And I live here.

Talk about a fail on your part.

Is it a fail on my part if I didn't know because I don't drink beer? I've tried various types of alcoholic drinks over the years and I can't find a single one I like.


Masterful. 10/10 would feed troll again.
 
2013-11-01 10:07:29 PM  
Pour it back into the horse.
 
2013-11-01 10:08:16 PM  

Spaced Lion: If by "local beer scene" you mean this:

[www.esquire.com image 614x345]

Then yes, I do think it's good.

/Don't know shiat about your "beer scene" so I won't say anything about it
//There's also a microbrewery in my town but I don't care for it
///Threes


Man. Zegan and Amber were my two favorites before I quit a few years ago. Most of those weren't even made. Hell, we were happy to find Shiner in a damn CAN most of the time.

I feel old. And faintly wistful at not being able to drink teh funs

/but not really
//it was bad enough for me to stop and never start again hopefully
 
2013-11-01 10:08:22 PM  

IntertubeUser: One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.


San Diego is the lame red state part of the coast
 
2013-11-01 10:09:19 PM  

SnakeLee: The problem with going to those places though is that the food is terrible.  Stone brewery has awesome beer, a kick ass atmosphere, the tours are cool, and they have really nice servers/ staff / event specialists.  The food though is overpriced, almost certainly made by line cooks and there are only like 5 things on the menu anyways.  It's fun going there, but they really need to work on that


YMMV

I've been to Stone twice (my bro lives in SD), and their bison burger is one of the best I've ever had.
 
2013-11-01 10:12:35 PM  
This is what i think of when i hear "California beer"
2.bp.blogspot.com

Be quicker to steep the hops in boiling water and drink my hop tea
 
2013-11-01 10:13:24 PM  
you should see the pile ups down the road when hops highway merges with schnapps highway
 
2013-11-01 10:14:10 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: TofuTheAlmighty: IntertubeUser: Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.

Missourah is a red state and they got some damn fine beer. MO by itself curbstomps the mid-Atlantic region for beer. I have high hopes for Bluejacket, though.

The Mid-Atlantic has Dogfish Head, Victory, and Flying Dog which are great, plus a bunch of others I'm sure.  While they don't distribute, Iron Hill Brewery has a bunch of brewpubs in Delaware, PA, and NJ, and their beer is top notch.


Flying Dog has some good stuff. DFH is good in the sense of that-was-nice-for-one-bottle but they're coasting on past success. And I've never been enamored of Victory (though my experience is limited). Weyerbacher is growing on me and DuClaw puts out the occasional nifty brew. Still, I'd gladly trade all of those for Boulevard, Schlafly, and Perennial.
 
2013-11-01 10:17:20 PM  
Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.
 
2013-11-01 10:19:03 PM  

JonBuck: Mike Chewbacca: JonBuck: When I think beer, I don't think San Diego. And I live here.

Talk about a fail on your part.

Is it a fail on my part if I didn't know because I don't drink beer? I've tried various types of alcoholic drinks over the years and I can't find a single one I like.


It's probably biological. Your body chemistry is not compatible with hard drink. No big deal.

Like some people with garlic, or durian. Addiction is the flip side.

Think of the Indians who go red in the face and crazy homicidal drunk on one beer. Wrong body chemistry for alcohol.
 
2013-11-01 10:20:01 PM  

Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.


This.

Of course, I live where they are growing a good chunk of these hops....
 
2013-11-01 10:20:20 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: timujin: Like some others do with bacon or Sriracha, I really with this whole fascination with uber-hoppy beers would end.

At this point I think it's pretty much a self perpetuating myth. Yes, there are a lot of hippy beers available, but there are also a ton of not-hoppy beers being brewed in craft breweries all over.

Don't focus on the ones you don't like, focus on the ones you do.


Exactly.  The only problem I have is most of guys I hang out with are hopheads.  Past a certain IBU, it becomes too overwhelming (and that IBU varies.)  I'm the token Belgian fan of the group and the also only one that seems to really appreciate stouts and porters.
 
2013-11-01 10:21:15 PM  

Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.


Boulder here, and no farking kidding. I can't throw a rock without hitting a brewery. Of course, when I do throw a rock its usually to break a window to get at that sweet sweet beer.
 
2013-11-01 10:21:27 PM  

GRCooper: SnakeLee: The problem with going to those places though is that the food is terrible.  Stone brewery has awesome beer, a kick ass atmosphere, the tours are cool, and they have really nice servers/ staff / event specialists.  The food though is overpriced, almost certainly made by line cooks and there are only like 5 things on the menu anyways.  It's fun going there, but they really need to work on that

YMMV

I've been to Stone twice (my bro lives in SD), and their bison burger is one of the best I've ever had.


I went there a couple months ago and enjoyed it.  I didn't get to do a tour, but I did some damn fine beer drinkin'.  The food was decent (I had a pork chop, I think), but pretty overpriced.  I probably would've been annoyed if I hadn't been eating on the company dime.

What really surprised me was how packed the place was.  I was there on a Wednesday night and there was a 45 minute wait for a table and the parking lot was over capacity.
 
2013-11-01 10:22:37 PM  
That's adorable that they're doing that.

/northern Oregon
 
2013-11-01 10:26:19 PM  

SearchN: Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.

Boulder here, and no farking kidding. I can't throw a rock without hitting a brewery. Of course, when I do throw a rock its usually to break a window to get at that sweet sweet beer.


I just moved out here and I love it. I'm going to the All Colorado Beer Fest tomorrow in CO Springs and I'm stoked to be trying a ton of beer I've never seen before.
 
2013-11-01 10:30:46 PM  

meat0918: Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.

This.

Of course, I live where they are growing a good chunk of these hops....


This.

/craft beer is crafted
 
2013-11-01 10:33:24 PM  

timujin: Like some others do with bacon or Sriracha, I really with this whole fascination with uber-hoppy beers would end.


I think part of the problem is that hops are being used to create only very narrow flavor and aroma profiles in IPAs, specifically high bitterness  mixed withlemon and grapefruit.

However, there are other hops out there that provide very different flavor profiles (Mosaic being one, which has a tropical, mango flavor and aroma) that could add a whole different direction in pale ales and IPAs. It's worth using some of these other hops in IPAs just to get something different, though it seems most brewers are only interested in creating bitter bombs these days.

/don't get me wrong, I do enjoy bitter bombs, but I also love variety
 
2013-11-01 10:33:36 PM  
My "local beer scene"? Is.. Do you mean a bar? What is this... Maybe I'm just old.
 
2013-11-01 10:34:13 PM  

Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.


This.

I'm within 90 minutes of Founders, Bells, Three Floyds, and Goose Island. Lake Michigan area water is fantastic for brewing, I buy my hops locally grown too. An amazing area for booze in general. Some fairly decent wineries around, and now some distilleries are popping up too.
 
2013-11-01 10:36:12 PM  
San Diego here..living within stumbling distance to 30th.. I love this place!!!

/misplaced slashies
 
2013-11-01 10:39:33 PM  
I have a massive hop vine growing on my fence. Unfortunately a beer scene has not sprung up on my street.
 
2013-11-01 10:41:49 PM  

Franklin Delano Bluth: SearchN: Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.

Boulder here, and no farking kidding. I can't throw a rock without hitting a brewery. Of course, when I do throw a rock its usually to break a window to get at that sweet sweet beer.

I just moved out here and I love it. I'm going to the All Colorado Beer Fest tomorrow in CO Springs and I'm stoked to be trying a ton of beer I've never seen before.


I live in CO Springs and I didn't know. Saved by the Fark thread, just got tix. Thanks for the tip
 
2013-11-01 10:42:54 PM  

iron_city_ap: Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

This.

I'm within 90 minutes of Founders, Bells, Three Floyds, and Goose Island. Lake Michigan area water is fantastic for brewing, I buy my hops locally grown too. An amazing area for booze in general. Some fairly decent wineries around, and now some distilleries are popping up too.



Yep! There are... 3? wineries within 10 minutes of me.. Warner Vineyards, Lawton Ridge, and St. Julian. Not necessarily "good" wineries, but hey, they're there! Wine tours, biatches.
 
2013-11-01 10:46:30 PM  

Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.


West Michigan has a remarkable excellent-beer-per-capita ratio.

Here across the lake in Chicago, Founders and Bells are very popular and much appreciated.
 
2013-11-01 10:46:37 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: TofuTheAlmighty: IntertubeUser: Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.

Missourah is a red state and they got some damn fine beer. MO by itself curbstomps the mid-Atlantic region for beer. I have high hopes for Bluejacket, though.

The Mid-Atlantic has Dogfish Head, Victory, and Flying Dog which are great, plus a bunch of others I'm sure.  While they don't distribute, Iron Hill Brewery has a bunch of brewpubs in Delaware, PA, and NJ, and their beer is top notch.


Don't forget DC Brau.  If you are going to include Victory, then I think Troegs should be included.    Impressed to see a Bluejacket mention here.  A new brewery just opened up in DC in September called Atlas.  Tried their NSFW Black IPA.  9.2%.  Keep an eye on them.  It was good.
 
2013-11-01 10:47:51 PM  
Oh, hey, don't forget about Greenbush in Sawyer or Paw Paw Brewing.. if you haven't been, they're both great too! My son's grandpa on his mom's side owned a small place here in town too called Old Hat. Formerly Duster's until Larry Bell sold it. New Holland is OK too, I guess.. I used to like their oatmeal stout a lot when I was just 21 but I've found it to be lacking now that I'm a little older.
 
2013-11-01 10:48:40 PM  
I live in Calgary and I have to say that this city sucks for beer. There's not a single brewpub in town (Brewsters, a chain that brews crappy beer at a single location and then ships it to all their pubs, doesn't count).

The craft breweries in the province aren't much better, though Wild Rose and Alley Kat are pretty good.
 
2013-11-01 10:49:21 PM  

jaytkay: Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

West Michigan has a remarkable excellent-beer-per-capita ratio.

Here across the lake in Chicago, Founders and Bells are very popular and much appreciated.


You're like a hair over an hour off (depending on where in Chi I suppose) but exit 12 off of 94 you'll find Greenbush in Sawyer. It's a sweet place.
 
2013-11-01 10:49:50 PM  
Charlottesville VA doesn't suck. There are 3 breweries within walking distance of where my apt was, as well as an amazing beer store. Within 10 or 15 miles are another 3 or 4 breweries and at least 6 wineries.
 
2013-11-01 10:53:18 PM  

SlothB77: TuteTibiImperes: TofuTheAlmighty: IntertubeUser: Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.

Missourah is a red state and they got some damn fine beer. MO by itself curbstomps the mid-Atlantic region for beer. I have high hopes for Bluejacket, though.

The Mid-Atlantic has Dogfish Head, Victory, and Flying Dog which are great, plus a bunch of others I'm sure.  While they don't distribute, Iron Hill Brewery has a bunch of brewpubs in Delaware, PA, and NJ, and their beer is top notch.

Don't forget DC Brau.  If you are going to include Victory, then I think Troegs should be included.    Impressed to see a Bluejacket mention here.  A new brewery just opened up in DC in September called Atlas.  Tried their NSFW Black IPA.  9.2%.  Keep an eye on them.  It was good.


Lancaster Brewing Co is also another one of the good ones from the region. Their Strawberry Wheat and Milk Stout are simply wonderful. The Ruddy Duck in So. MD is also a great Brewery but like Iron Hill they don't distribute either. :(
 
2013-11-01 10:55:10 PM  

kkinnison: This is what i think of when i hear "California beer"


i184.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-01 10:59:49 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: IntertubeUser: Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.

Missourah is a red state and they got some damn fine beer. MO by itself curbstomps the mid-Atlantic region for beer. I have high hopes for Bluejacket, though.


Colorado is one of the best craft brew states in the country and that is usually a red state.  Florida has Cigar City and Saint Somewhere.  Indiana has Three Floyds.  Utah has Epic and Uinta.  Sweetwater and Terrapin in Georgia.  Abita in Louisiana.  Iowa's Toppling Goliath has off the chart ratings.
 
2013-11-01 11:00:18 PM  
I do not understand the whole fascination with Extreeeeeeme Ultra-hoppy Hoppin' Hopzilla Hopsecutioner Hopageddon Hopocalypse Hopinator von Hopsurg Ales.  I mean, if you happen to be someone who likes them, go to town - but I just don't get it.

/Big, fat malty ales FTW
 
2013-11-01 11:03:27 PM  
So hipster hell is hops highway? Color me stunned.

/quit it with the damned hops already
//oblig.
 
2013-11-01 11:04:12 PM  
The locals have a word for our beer scene.  They call it "Colorado."
 
2013-11-01 11:04:14 PM  

SearchN: Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.

Boulder here, and no farking kidding. I can't throw a rock without hitting a brewery. Of course, when I do throw a rock its usually to break a window to get at that sweet sweet beer.


Similar here: Madison, WI:
Brewpubs:
Great Dane
Vintage
Ale Asylum
Karben4
One Barrel
Next Door (Just opened a few months ago)
Granite City (not really a brewpub or microbrew, but still good)
Capitol
House of Brews

Distilleries:
Death's Door
Sugar Maple

/Doesn't even count all the surrounding area breweries, wineries, and distilleries
//Wow, San Diego, someone called you "Hops Highway"
///How quaint
 
2013-11-01 11:06:04 PM  
While a huge amount of breweries and brewpubs is great, I have found those rare breweries with nowhere else for many miles to make some of the best full range of beers. Best example of this is Nantahala Brewing Company which is tucked away in Bryson City and yet possesses such an incredible line. Have visited many breweries, there are often a couple of great beers with plenty of small batch and similar pilots which simply do not measure. However, Nantahala had no taps wasted.

I think having a high density of breweries puts pressure to cover the lager, pale ale, india pale ale, stout, imperial stout, porter, belgian, hefeweizen, blonde, rye, wheat, kolsch, bock, scotch ale, lambic, sour, etc., because of the expectation of this breadth. Throw a pilot brew out there every couple of months but have a solid set of three and do not spread yourself too thin; The Alchemist makes one beer, and this one beer is one of the highest rate beers in the world. Being a homebrewer, I have spent the last year trying to figure out the perfect mead to then build variations upon, testing honey and yeast and brix and aging and conditioning and racking rather than wanting to branch out to other styles.
 
2013-11-01 11:06:06 PM  
Hops are the ketchup of beer.  They mask the fact that you suck at making beer.
 
2013-11-01 11:06:19 PM  

Witty Comment: jaytkay: Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

West Michigan has a remarkable excellent-beer-per-capita ratio.

Here across the lake in Chicago, Founders and Bells are very popular and much appreciated.

You're like a hair over an hour off (depending on where in Chi I suppose) but exit 12 off of 94 you'll find Greenbush in Sawyer. It's a sweet place.


Yep, Greenbush, I've been there, recommended.
 
2013-11-01 11:08:41 PM  

iron_city_ap: Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

This.

I'm within 90 minutes of Founders, Bells, Three Floyds, and Goose Island. Lake Michigan area water is fantastic for brewing, I buy my hops locally grown too. An amazing area for booze in general. Some fairly decent wineries around, and now some distilleries are popping up too.


Dark horse out of michigan is fantastic. And they are distributing now. Really wanna try kuhnhenn - I couldn't find it even the week I spent in michigan. Shorts, new holland is good too. Dont sleep on new glarus.
 
2013-11-01 11:08:59 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: SearchN: Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.

Boulder here, and no farking kidding. I can't throw a rock without hitting a brewery. Of course, when I do throw a rock its usually to break a window to get at that sweet sweet beer.

Similar here: Madison, WI:
Brewpubs:
Great Dane
Vintage
Ale Asylum
Karben4
One Barrel
Next Door (Just opened a few months ago)
Granite City (not really a brewpub or microbrew, but still good)
Capitol
House of Brews

Distilleries:
Death's Door
Sugar Maple

/Doesn't even count all the surrounding area breweries, wineries, and distilleries
//Wow, San Diego, someone called you "Hops Highway"
///How quaint


Don't forget the new one in Verona that just opened up this week.
 
2013-11-01 11:09:01 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Hops are the ketchup of beer.  They mask the fact that you suck at making beer.


Hops are the salt in beer. Used correctly, they enhance the flavour or even add subtle tones of their own. Used to excess they just take over.
 
2013-11-01 11:10:19 PM  

Franklin Delano Bluth: SearchN: Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.

Boulder here, and no farking kidding. I can't throw a rock without hitting a brewery. Of course, when I do throw a rock its usually to break a window to get at that sweet sweet beer.

I just moved out here and I love it. I'm going to the All Colorado Beer Fest tomorrow in CO Springs and I'm stoked to be trying a ton of beer I've never seen before.


Try 1 of these:

beeradvocate.com

It's.. unique to say the least so I recommend to try at least 1. What I have found with them though... Best. Beer. Ever. for making beer bratwursts.
 
2013-11-01 11:10:40 PM  

GoodHomer: I live in Calgary and I have to say that this city sucks for beer. There's not a single brewpub in town


Wat? Do you have weird booze laws or something?

In the US it seems every crappy town near an interstate has a brewpub. We had the tech bubble in the 90s. the housing bubble in the 00s, and now we have the brewery bubble.
 
2013-11-01 11:11:49 PM  
My buddy just shared a Stone 11/12/13 with me.

/near there.
//it was tasty
///End of CSB
 
2013-11-01 11:17:54 PM  

W.C.fields forever: My buddy just shared a Stone 11/12/13 with me.


Your buddy is from the future?

/today is 11/1/13
 
2013-11-01 11:19:14 PM  
No, I can assure you that my local beer scene sucks, so I'm thankful for the out-of-state imports.
 
2013-11-01 11:20:15 PM  
SpeedyBB: It's probably biological. Your body chemistry is not compatible with hard drink.

I don't really like beer either, though I will have an occasional Guinness (mmm guinness and hot wings).

In my case, it's not a question of tolerance, it's a question of the taste (I just never acquired a taste for beer and wine). Plus from what I've experienced, I would have to drink a shiat ton of beer to get a buzz going.

// I prefer shots of vodka, rum, tequila or sambuca.

Sometimes, I drink one of the above mixed at a 1:2 or 1:1 ratio with some other liquid(s) (rum and coke, screwdriver, etc).

// cut myself off after seven shots of vodka in a short time period, because I don't like drunken slobs and I don't want to be a drunken slob. I can handle more, but after the eight shot, it's harder to say no to additional shots.
 
2013-11-01 11:22:26 PM  

a particular individual: W.C.fields forever: My buddy just shared a Stone 11/12/13 with me.

Your buddy is from the future?

/today is 11/1/13


I told him..What I tell ya ..look at this post.

Time machine.
 
2013-11-01 11:22:54 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Hops are the ketchup of beer.  They mask the fact that you suck at making beer.


We get it, you're a dumbass troll.  Do you have anything better to do than post things that you think will be offensive?  Seriously, it's like you think to yourself "how can I just try to say something inflammatory to get attention."  I get it in the politics tab, since people hold beliefs and opinions dear in there, but this is just a matter of personal preference.  If people want to drink Bud Light with salt sprinkled on it, none of the beer snobs in here care one bit.

I pitty you, so I guess you got some attention, which is all you ever really wanted.  Good for you.

/pats Smeggy on the head
 
2013-11-01 11:28:07 PM  
And since it honestly is a Fark CSB,

I made a bet with TheJoe03 about the Lakers sweeping and winning the finals a few years ago. I lost, he received a tasty Colorado beer in return. Farking shipping on it was $20.00, $9.99 for a 6 pack of those and he only got one.

Guess the lesson is simple. If I offer to make a bet with you on here, take me up on it. I'll pay if I lose.
 
2013-11-01 11:30:27 PM  

Witty Comment: iron_city_ap: Witty Comment: I live in the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

This.

I'm within 90 minutes of Founders, Bells, Three Floyds, and Goose Island. Lake Michigan area water is fantastic for brewing, I buy my hops locally grown too. An amazing area for booze in general. Some fairly decent wineries around, and now some distilleries are popping up too.


Yep! There are... 3? wineries within 10 minutes of me.. Warner Vineyards, Lawton Ridge, and St. Julian. Not necessarily "good" wineries, but hey, they're there! Wine tours, biatches.


I used to scoff at beer snobs but then I moved to Kalamazoo. I understand now. When offered Bud I sneered. My mom was not impressed.

/The only thing that is going to get me through this first full winter here is knowing there will be a fresh batch of Oberon at the end.
//Really need to get out to Warner, friend of mines family owns it.
 
2013-11-01 11:33:34 PM  
God, it must suck to live in places where weed is illegal and you have to pretend to be excited about beer....
 
2013-11-01 11:39:13 PM  

SpdrJay: God, it must suck to live in places where weed is illegal and you have to pretend to be excited about beer....


Because weed is so social and tasty?....
 
2013-11-01 11:40:31 PM  
San Diego and the greater California area is home to the best breweries in the world. We blow German breweries out of the water with their own styles nowadays, and if you dont believe that you better bring your ass down here (with a compliment of "designated drivers" because theyre gonna ditch you after your 2nd pilsner). Northern CA brings the dank in addition; we dont drink piss round here. Good beer is the expected, dont you bring some piss.
 
2013-11-01 11:40:51 PM  
TofuTheAlmighty:
Flying Dog has some good stuff. DFH is good in the sense of that-was-nice-for-one-bottle but they're coasting on past success. And I've never been enamored of Victory (though my experience is limited). Weyerbacher is growing on me and DuClaw puts out the occasional nifty brew. Still, I'd gladly trade all of those for Boulevard, Schlafly, and Perennial.

DFH makes a lot of great stuff, but they also like to experiment and play around.  The beers they offer consistently are pretty much all excellent, and their 60 Minute IPA is the standard for the style IMO.  Their experimental beers are hit and miss.  I admire then for doing it, and I try them when I can get them, but some work, and some just don't.  Still, like they say, you have to break some eggs to bake a cake, so I'm sure they're learning from the mistakes and what they learn will go into better beers in the future.
 
2013-11-01 11:42:39 PM  

whatshisname: SpdrJay: God, it must suck to live in places where weed is illegal and you have to pretend to be excited about beer....

Because weed is so social and tasty?....


Pretty much...
 
2013-11-01 11:42:54 PM  

lordargent: In my case, it's not a question of tolerance, it's a question of the taste (I just never acquired a taste for beer and wine).


What is interesting is how tastes change. I never started drinking the breadth of beer I do until two years ago when my brother and I went shopping for beer for the holidays while with the folks, and he picked Rogue Dead Guy Ale and Stone Arrogant Bastard. Now, I have about hundreds of unique craft bottles lining shelves. I even remember some years back him getting Dogfish Head 60 Minute IPA and how I struggled to even drink half a bottle; today, the idea of a 60 IBU beer registering as bitter is amusing. Have to find the correct beer to get you into enjoying malt and hops.

lordargent: Plus from what I've experienced, I would have to drink a shiat ton of beer to get a buzz going.


Depends highly on the beer. As a major fan of barley wines, downing half a bomber of Old Guardian or a bottle of Blithering Idiot is comparable to a relatively strong mixed drink, but the alcohol content is a product of the flavors of the beer rather than intention to get drunk which means I enjoy what I drink more than most, and therefore find I drink easier than most.
 
2013-11-01 11:46:12 PM  

SpdrJay: whatshisname: SpdrJay: God, it must suck to live in places where weed is illegal and you have to pretend to be excited about beer....

Because weed is so social and tasty?....

Pretty much...


I find weed these days to pretty much put everyone into a coma. It's interesting and introspective, but certainly nothing like a night at the pub
 
2013-11-01 11:48:52 PM  

whatshisname: SpdrJay: whatshisname: SpdrJay: God, it must suck to live in places where weed is illegal and you have to pretend to be excited about beer....

Because weed is so social and tasty?....

Pretty much...

I find weed these days to pretty much put everyone into a coma. It's interesting and introspective, but certainly nothing like a night at the pub


Depends on the strain. Can find some that are "body highs" and some that are "cerebral highs".
 
2013-11-01 11:51:12 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Hops are the ketchup of beer.  They mask the fact that you suck at making beer.


Yo dawg I heard you like hops so I put hops in your hops
 
2013-11-01 11:56:21 PM  
I live about 5 miles from the 78. To complete your hipster beer extravaganza, you must eat at the Yellow Deli in Vista. It is owned and run by a cult of yurt-dwelling hippie messianic Jews. I am not kidding. It's farking awesome inside, like you're eating at the Green Dragon, and the food is decent.
 
2013-11-02 12:02:41 AM  
Wherever we're from, whatever we like to drink, I think we can all agree on one thing;

Subby needs a swift coontpunch for using the 'Hero' tag
 
2013-11-02 12:05:22 AM  
According to Google Maps I have 63 bars, 8 strip clubs, 17 breweries and 5 distilleries within a mile of my place. I laugh heartily at all of you.
 
2013-11-02 12:06:49 AM  

SpdrJay: God, it must suck to live in places where weed is illegal and you have to pretend to be excited about beer....


what about places where its legal and you don't pretend cause the beer is awesome?
 
2013-11-02 12:10:20 AM  
I heard they recently decided to start adding more hops.

img.fark.net
 
2013-11-02 12:15:45 AM  
Vangor: hops.

It's the hops I don't like.

I have a superpowered sweet tooth, and I'm usually out of there at the first sign of sour/bitterness.

lordargent.com
// my small inventory ... I don't drink a lot, but I do try a lot of different things.
// missing cruzan rum (the rum of my peoples, I just brought 2L back from a trip home), and rumchata.

// yes I have two different types of sambuca

// that bottle of absolut vanilla is from a party 2 years ago, someone brought it, then left it, and now it sits in my cabinet collecting cobwebs.
 
2013-11-02 12:18:04 AM  

whatshisname: Some people are just bitter about this.


Others are just hopping mad.
 
2013-11-02 12:19:12 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Smeggy Smurf: Hops are the ketchup of beer.  They mask the fact that you suck at making beer.

We get it, you're a dumbass troll.  Do you have anything better to do than post things that you think will be offensive?  Seriously, it's like you think to yourself "how can I just try to say something inflammatory to get attention."  I get it in the politics tab, since people hold beliefs and opinions dear in there, but this is just a matter of personal preference.  If people want to drink Bud Light with salt sprinkled on it, none of the beer snobs in here care one bit.

I pitty you, so I guess you got some attention, which is all you ever really wanted.  Good for you.

/pats Smeggy on the head


You've never had good beer.  IPA is not a a good beer.  It's swill in par with Budweiser.  A good stout is where it's at if you must drink beer.
 
2013-11-02 12:20:03 AM  

SlothB77: Colorado is one of the best craft brew states in the country and that is usually a red state.  Florida has Cigar City and Saint Somewhere.  Indiana has Three Floyds.  Utah has Epic and Uinta.  Sweetwater and Terrapin in Georgia.  Abita in Louisiana.  Iowa's Toppling Goliath has off the chart ratings.


I seriously don't know if the guy claiming red states don't do beer was trolling or not, but it took entirely too long in this thread for someone to truly call him out on his nonsense. Georgia and North Carolina make stellar beers, Colorado is a true heaven, and MIchigan's pretty red.

Granted, the havens are all in the cities (Atlanta, Asheville/Triad, Denver, Kalamazoo) so take that what you will.
 
2013-11-02 12:21:35 AM  

Lunger42: pedobearapproved: aerojockey: So Cal Fark Party at each and every one of them

don't give people any ideas, I have yet to see a Fark Party in the actual city of San Diego.

THere was one at Comic Con. These kind of headlines make me happy to be in SoCal area. :)


There was also the w00tstout release party, at the new Stone location near the airport.
 
2013-11-02 12:22:37 AM  

lordargent: Vangor: hops.

It's the hops I don't like.

I have a superpowered sweet tooth, and I'm usually out of there at the first sign of sour/bitterness.

[lordargent.com image 850x306]
// my small inventory ... I don't drink a lot, but I do try a lot of different things.
// missing cruzan rum (the rum of my peoples, I just brought 2L back from a trip home), and rumchata.

// yes I have two different types of sambuca

// that bottle of absolut vanilla is from a party 2 years ago, someone brought it, then left it, and now it sits in my cabinet collecting cobwebs.


Doing it wrong man. They should look like this:

imageshack.us
Desk shelf from a previous job. Majority of those are rather expensive bottles of scotch.

/Why yes, we did have a Thursday afternoon Scotch time.
 
2013-11-02 12:24:00 AM  
Having lived in Germany for 4 years and sampling several of their beers....well, makes this thread pretty much suck for me. Schwarzbier all the way. It is like a meal in a glass. It is very filling. You know what they say: Once you go Schwarz, you never go back.

/ drink cold, crisp Coors Light here in the US
 
2013-11-02 12:24:02 AM  
I think that these guys are a big reason San Diego is where we are in brewing:


http://www.whitelabs.com/jobs-white-labs

It's not really about the hops....it's the yeast.  And San Diego is chock full of biologists and chemists who get a real professional kick out of yeast ranching.  Biotech hubs make for good brewing.
 
2013-11-02 12:24:26 AM  
Cheeseface: I seriously don't know if the guy claiming red states don't do beer was trolling or not, but it took entirely too long in this thread for someone to truly call him out on his nonsense.

The second anyone trots out anything about red state/blue state, I just ignore them for the rest of the thread.

Because I'm basically neutral when it comes to political leanings, so the crossparty bickering is especially useless to me since I don't care for either of them.

lordargent.com
 
2013-11-02 12:28:28 AM  

Cheeseface: SlothB77: Colorado is one of the best craft brew states in the country and that is usually a red state.  Florida has Cigar City and Saint Somewhere.  Indiana has Three Floyds.  Utah has Epic and Uinta.  Sweetwater and Terrapin in Georgia.  Abita in Louisiana.  Iowa's Toppling Goliath has off the chart ratings.

I seriously don't know if the guy claiming red states don't do beer was trolling or not, but it took entirely too long in this thread for someone to truly call him out on his nonsense. Georgia and North Carolina make stellar beers, Colorado is a true heaven, and MIchigan's pretty red.

Granted, the havens are all in the cities (Atlanta, Asheville/Triad, Denver, Kalamazoo) so take that what you will.


Even Texas has great beers, including Shiner and St. Arnold. Hell, even the movie theater brews it's own beer.

/Alamo Drafthouse FTW
//lots of microbreweries, and Germans
///the Shiner BBQ beer was their worst attempt
 
2013-11-02 12:29:47 AM  

megarian: Fark hops.

 
2013-11-02 12:34:42 AM  
Whatever, Portland for life.
 
2013-11-02 12:35:07 AM  

SearchN: Desk shelf from a previous job.


LOL. I have a bottle of gin stashed in my server room in a box labeled "spare cables".
 
2013-11-02 12:43:42 AM  
Here in the People's Republic of Austin, we're wrapping up Beer Week.
 
2013-11-02 01:15:46 AM  
It's not about quantity, it's about quality. In a town of just a few hundred lies Mad River Brewing Company. They've been winning awards at the GABF for decades.

/'bout a three minute bike ride from home, and on the way home from work.
 
2013-11-02 01:21:42 AM  

SearchN: Try 1 of these: <insert Billy's Chiles>


Billy's is ok, but it tends to whack you in the face with the amount / lack of balance in the chile.

I'd say try that but also check out San Luis Valley's (Alamosa) Valle Caliente. I think it's got a better balance / flavor.

8233design.com

Twisted Pine's Northstar Porter and Hoppy Man are their best brews, imo. The rest are ok, but there are better options for each style they make.

/there's no shortage of fine beer around these parts
 
2013-11-02 01:22:54 AM  

HotWingAgenda: SearchN: Desk shelf from a previous job.

LOL. I have a bottle of gin stashed in my server room in a box labeled "spare cables".


No stashed bottles there. Hell, even the CEO would come down for a drink with the us. I have pics of multiple pics of Directors, VP's and C level people coming down. Usually we would order a few pizza's, break out the scotch and kick back, bullshiat with each other and brain storm a thing or two. Usually started a few hours before the work day ended. The kegs were nice, as were the margarita machine they bought us. But, everyone came for the scotch.
 
2013-11-02 01:24:49 AM  

Lunger42: pedobearapproved: aerojockey: So Cal Fark Party at each and every one of them

don't give people any ideas, I have yet to see a Fark Party in the actual city of San Diego.

THere was one at Comic Con. These kind of headlines make me happy to be in SoCal area. :)


Hold on to that, that's about all you get. I'm can't stand the place. The entire $#!+hole can sink into the Pacific Ocean for all I care. I'll send you a rubber dingy mom, sis, and bro.
 
2013-11-02 01:25:36 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Smeggy Smurf: Hops are the ketchup of beer.  They mask the fact that you suck at making beer.

We get it, you're a dumbass troll.  Do you have anything better to do than post things that you think will be offensive?  Seriously, it's like you think to yourself "how can I just try to say something inflammatory to get attention."  I get it in the politics tab, since people hold beliefs and opinions dear in there, but this is just a matter of personal preference.  If people want to drink Bud Light with salt sprinkled on it, none of the beer snobs in here care one bit.

I pitty you, so I guess you got some attention, which is all you ever really wanted.  Good for you.

/pats Smeggy on the head

You've never had good beer.  IPA is not a a good beer.  It's swill in par with Budweiser.  A good stout is where it's at if you must drink beer.


Yeah, I've had hundreds of good beers; many in line with your apparent liking.  Just had a Big Slick Stout and Contorter Porter at Ale Asylum tonight.  Both malt-heavy, hop-light.  Making good beer is just as skillful with either hop-heavy or malty styles.  There's no need to denigrate hoppy beers; they in fact have played a vital role in the development of humanity.  Exploration by ship would have been far more difficult without the anti-bacterial properties of alpha-acids allowing for mass storage of drinkable fluids on ships.

Of course, since you said "if you must drink beer" I assume you aren't very appreciative of beer in general, so there's no point in discussing the finer points of the beverage with you.
 
2013-11-02 01:25:55 AM  

zobear: SearchN: Try 1 of these: <insert Billy's Chiles>

Billy's is ok, but it tends to whack you in the face with the amount / lack of balance in the chile.

I'd say try that but also check out San Luis Valley's (Alamosa) Valle Caliente. I think it's got a better balance / flavor.

[8233design.com image 172x480]

Twisted Pine's Northstar Porter and Hoppy Man are their best brews, imo. The rest are ok, but there are better options for each style they make.

/there's no shortage of fine beer around these part


As I said, its unique. I only recommend trying 1, if you like it go for it. If not, no real waste and goes right into cooking. Tried the others, I'm partial to the Blond myself. That's the one I sent Joe.
 
2013-11-02 01:28:25 AM  

www.mibeer.com And Beer Advocate's top 20



1 Heady Topper
American Double / Imperial IPA / 8.00% ABV
The Alchemist 4.71 4852
2 Pliny The Younger
American Double / Imperial IPA / 11.00% ABV
Russian River Brewing Company 4.66 1759
3 Pliny The Elder
American Double / Imperial IPA / 8.00% ABV
Russian River Brewing Company 4.63 7570
4 Founders KBS (Kentucky Breakfast Stout)
American Double / Imperial Stout / 11.20% ABV
Founders Brewing Company 4.62 5911

5 Bourbon County Brand Coffee Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 14.00% ABV
Goose Island Beer Co. 4.62 2643
6 Zombie Dust
American Pale Ale (APA) / 6.40% ABV
Three Floyds Brewing Co. & Brewpub 4.61 4208
7 Trappist Westvleteren 12 (XII)
Quadrupel (Quad) / 10.20% ABV
Brouwerij Westvleteren (Sint-Sixtusabdij van Westvleteren) 4.61 3541
8 Bourbon Barrel Aged Vanilla Bean Dark Lord
Russian Imperial Stout / 15.00% ABV
Three Floyds Brewing Co. & Brewpub 4.6 634
9 Parabola
Russian Imperial Stout / 13.00% ABV
Firestone Walker Brewing Co. 4.57 3089
10 Double Sunshine IPA
American Double / Imperial IPA / 8.00% ABV
Lawson's Finest Liquids 4.57 1002
11 Cantillon Fou' Foune
Lambic - Fruit / 5.00% ABV
Brasserie Cantillon 4.56 1136
12 Supplication
American Wild Ale / 7.75% ABV
Russian River Brewing Company 4.55 3409
13 Bourbon County Brand Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 15.00% ABV
Goose Island Beer Co. 4.54 5207
14 The Abyss
American Double / Imperial Stout / 11.00% ABV
Deschutes Brewery 4.53 3496
15 Abner
American Double / Imperial IPA / 8.20% ABV
Hill Farmstead Brewery 4.53 920
16 Hunahpu's Imperial Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 11.00% ABV
Cigar City Brewing 4.52 1688
17 Founders Breakfast Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 8.30% ABV
Founders Brewing Company 4.51 8588
18 Bell's Hopslam Ale
American Double / Imperial IPA / 10.00% ABV
Bell's Brewery, Inc. 4.51 7066

19 Trappistes Rochefort 10
Quadrupel (Quad) / 11.30% ABV
Brasserie de Rochefort 4.51 5392
20 Kuhnhenn Bourbon Barrel Fourth Dementia
Old Ale / 13.50% ABV
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company 4.51 1059


/Yeah, that's f--king right
 
2013-11-02 01:32:47 AM  

Franklin Delano Bluth: Think your local beer scene is good? San Diego County's Highway 78 is now being referred to as "Hops Highway"

I live 10 minutes outside of Denver. Subby, you know so little.


My brother lives in Longmont. I visited him last summer. The beer scene on the front range is amazing. He has ten or twelve breweries in cycling distance. The biggest downside? I felt like I was in southern California. It felt just as crowded and congested. You can keep your 10 minutes outside of Denver and your highway 78 all to yourselves, and sixty million others...
 
2013-11-02 01:39:11 AM  

Cog Spinner: Having lived in Germany for 4 years and sampling several of their beers....well, makes this thread pretty much suck for me. Schwarzbier all the way. It is like a meal in a glass. It is very filling. You know what they say: Once you go Schwarz, you never go back.

/ drink cold, crisp Coors Light here in the US


Yeah with beer once you go black you never go back.
 
2013-11-02 02:38:01 AM  
This is where the Hops sing!

cdn.backyardchickens.com
 
2013-11-02 03:18:24 AM  
See the cool thing about beer is that it's relatively cheap, and travels well.  So despite having laws that make it nearly impossible to open a small scale brewery where I live, I still get to have a local "Beer Scene" that is anything but.  Doesn't hurt to be employed at a place that specializes in North American beers either (National 10th). We've got 90ish beers on tap, and several dozen bottles along with some awesome food.
 
2013-11-02 03:23:35 AM  

pSPAZz: See the cool thing about beer is that it's relatively cheap, and travels well.  So despite having laws that make it nearly impossible to open a small scale brewery where I live, I still get to have a local "Beer Scene" that is anything but.  Doesn't hurt to be employed at a place that specializes in North American beers either (National 10th). We've got 90ish beers on tap, and several dozen bottles along with some awesome food.


Just looking at that menu I think I'd gain 10 lbs my first month working there.  That lobster poutine sounds awesome.
 
2013-11-02 04:20:11 AM  
TuteTibiImperes:

Just looking at that menu I think I'd gain 10 lbs my first month working there.  That lobster poutine sounds awesome.

I think I ate poutine almost every day for the first month we were open...  I just moved downstairs to eventually take over that kitchen, we do fancy tacos.  I really, really wanted a mushroom poutine today but was too busy to escape upstairs and get one.
 
2013-11-02 07:38:45 AM  
Real beer doesn't contain hopps.

Hopps are to hide "vomit in a can syndrome"
 
2013-11-02 07:57:55 AM  
I'm perfectly happy with the breweries in WNY, especially Southern Tier and Flying Bison.
 
2013-11-02 11:13:33 AM  
img.fark.net
San Diego.
We might not have any sports championships, but our beer and weather are the best. So...SCOREBOARD.
 
2013-11-02 11:35:05 AM  

W.C.fields forever: a particular individual: W.C.fields forever: My buddy just shared a Stone 11/12/13 with me.

Your buddy is from the future?

/today is 11/1/13

I told him..What I tell ya ..look at this post.

Time machine.


It's actual name is Enjoy By. It is a delicious Double IPA that is designed to only be fresh for a limited time. It's not meant to age. What you drank was "Enjoy By 11.12.13 IPA". It's the same tasty brew each time, but the name has the expiration date in it.
 
2013-11-02 12:39:28 PM  
This thread needs more Green Flash.  As does my fridge.
 
2013-11-02 01:56:56 PM  
I visited Stone Brewery for lunch and tour.  The tour was $3 and included 4 glasses of beer that they would refill for you once if you liked it.

Bought a bottle of Wheaton Farking Stout.  Eeeexcellent.
 
2013-11-02 02:19:07 PM  

SlothB77: Dont sleep on new glarus.


If you are hitting up ones around south-central WI, don't forget Tyranena as well. Their various limited edition bourbon barrel aged beers are very good such as "Who's your daddy" and  Down 'N Dirty Stout Aged In Rye Whiskey Barrels". Also their scotch ales are tasty such as shagging in the woods or sheep shagger. Painted ladies pumpkin is also decent, though I prefer whole hog.

Ale asylum's Bedlam! is also great, though a lot of their other beers are of the "throw a shiat ton of hops" in it variety.
 
2013-11-02 02:41:50 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: timujin: Like some others do with bacon or Sriracha, I really with this whole fascination with uber-hoppy beers would end.

At this point I think it's pretty much a self perpetuating myth. Yes, there are a lot of hippy beers available, but there are also a ton of not-hoppy beers being brewed in craft breweries all over.

Don't focus on the ones you don't like, focus on the ones you do.


I do, and I have a fantastic bar nearby that has a great selection.  But it does seem that, like with many popular things, breweries are following the trend and producing more hoppy beers over others.


GoodHomer: timujin: Like some others do with bacon or Sriracha, I really with this whole fascination with uber-hoppy beers would end.

I think part of the problem is that hops are being used to create only very narrow flavor and aroma profiles in IPAs, specifically high bitterness  mixed withlemon and grapefruit.

However, there are other hops out there that provide very different flavor profiles (Mosaic being one, which has a tropical, mango flavor and aroma) that could add a whole different direction in pale ales and IPAs. It's worth using some of these other hops in IPAs just to get something different, though it seems most brewers are only interested in creating bitter bombs these days.

/don't get me wrong, I do enjoy bitter bombs, but I also love variety


Huh... any suggestions on ones that use those hops?
 
2013-11-02 04:43:32 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: [www.mibeer.com image 850x680] And Beer Advocate's top 20


 List of 20 beers with a few Michigan breweries at the bottom


Lawl, only one beer in the top 10? Chicagoland laughs at your puny state.

5 Bourbon County Brand Coffee Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 14.00% ABV
Goose Island Beer Co. 4.62 2643

6 Zombie Dust
American Pale Ale (APA) / 6.40% ABV
Three Floyds Brewing Co. & Brewpub 4.61 4208

8 Bourbon Barrel Aged Vanilla Bean Dark Lord
Russian Imperial Stout / 15.00% ABV
Three Floyds Brewing Co. & Brewpub 4.6 634

13 Bourbon County Brand Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 15.00% ABV
Goose Island Beer Co. 4.54 5207
 
2013-11-02 04:46:01 PM  

Witty Comment: Oh, hey, don't forget about Greenbush in Sawyer or Paw Paw Brewing.. if you haven't been, they're both great too! My son's grandpa on his mom's side owned a small place here in town too called Old Hat. Formerly Duster's until Larry Bell sold it. New Holland is OK too, I guess.. I used to like their oatmeal stout a lot when I was just 21 but I've found it to be lacking now that I'm a little older.


If I recall correctly new  holland's old brewmaster left and went to brewery vivant in Grand Rapids.
 
2013-11-02 06:08:42 PM  
And I'll bet half the stuff the breweries churn out are IPAs/APAs with super crazy EXXXTREME hops contents.

/IPAs/APAs are for newbs
 
2013-11-02 06:21:07 PM  
Sitting here in Vermont, drinking a Heady Topper, the no. 1 beer on beeradvocate.com.  Looking at their top 250 list, we've got 5 in the top 50, 10 in the top 100. Not bad for a state with about 600,000 people in it.
 
2013-11-02 11:15:55 PM  
farm8.staticflickr.com
Fark you all! This is Hops Highway, Highway 12 in Washington State passes through the Yakima Valley which supplies 78% of the hops globally. My family farmed here in the 40s until they moved to logging.
 
2013-11-03 02:54:52 AM  

RogermcAllen: StreetlightInTheGhetto: [www.mibeer.com image 850x680] And Beer Advocate's top 20

 List of 20 beers with a few Michigan breweries at the bottom


Lawl, only one beer in the top 10? Chicagoland laughs at your puny state.

5 Bourbon County Brand Coffee Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 14.00% ABV
Goose Island Beer Co. 4.62 2643

6 Zombie Dust
American Pale Ale (APA) / 6.40% ABV
Three Floyds Brewing Co. & Brewpub 4.61 4208

8 Bourbon Barrel Aged Vanilla Bean Dark Lord
Russian Imperial Stout / 15.00% ABV
Three Floyds Brewing Co. & Brewpub 4.6 634

13 Bourbon County Brand Stout
American Double / Imperial Stout / 15.00% ABV
Goose Island Beer Co. 4.54 5207


Goose Island is owned by Anheuser-Busch.  So I wouldn't really call it purely Chicago, no.
 
2013-11-03 03:02:30 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: IntertubeUser: Articles like this constitute my greatest pride as an American.

One day, maybe the red states will catch up to the blue ones regarding microbrews.

One day.

// Fark you shiatty beer red states.

Missourah is a red state and they got some damn fine beer. MO by itself curbstomps the mid-Atlantic region for beer. I have high hopes for Bluejacket, though.


It was a revelation when I visited my Mother in Law in St Louis and we went out for dinner.  Sure, Bud was available, but so were a bunch of other options.  Schlafly was a pleasant surprise in itself, along with some of the best kraut and sausage I've had in a long while.
 
2013-11-03 04:49:56 AM  
Lazy Monk out of Eau Claire has built a solid base in its first year and is poised for great things.
 
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