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(Politico)   Politico finally wakes up and realizes that years of constant sabotage by Republicans might have actually contributed to Obamacare's rocky rollout   (politico.com ) divider line
    More: Obvious, obamacare, Republicans, Health and Human Services Department, Frank Pallone, health law, factual basis, 36th state  
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2013-11-02 07:32:26 PM  

Mrbogey: Ctrl-Alt-Del: Seriously? I mean... seriously? I've been following this story in the news and here on Fark since the first day, and I have not seen even one single person say "There are no problems with the rollout." Not one.

I'm sorry to hear about your blindness. Luckily the text-to-speech software is pretty damn good though.


Blindness? You're the one who made the stupid claim, but I notice that when I call you out on it you toss out insults instead of citations. I mean, since it's so very common, I'm sure you can easily provide four or five examples of people saying that. And before you start whining about "OMFGBBQ your moving the goalposts", realize that I'm not asking you to refute any claim you may think I've made --  I'm asking you to support the incredibly stupid one you made. I think four or five examples of people saying "There are no problems with the rollout." would be pretty strong evidence that you aren't completely full of shiat
 
2013-11-02 09:46:53 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Mrbogey: Ctrl-Alt-Del: Seriously? I mean... seriously? I've been following this story in the news and here on Fark since the first day, and I have not seen even one single person say "There are no problems with the rollout." Not one.

I'm sorry to hear about your blindness. Luckily the text-to-speech software is pretty damn good though.

Blindness? You're the one who made the stupid claim, but I notice that when I call you out on it you toss out insults instead of citations.


I mocked your silly statement. You'll live.

I just don't feel like going through one of the dozens of threads to dig out some poster talking about how everything is fine when you'll just ignore it.

I'm tired of dealing with the derpish demand made by people who haven't the strength of character to realize they should have committed seppuku long ago for their blunders.

Deal with it.
 
2013-11-02 10:02:48 PM  

Mrbogey: I got nothin',
Deal with it.

 
2013-11-02 11:06:55 PM  

DeltaXi65: captainktainer: Fourth, you don't have to excuse the administration to identify where Republicans have failed to be patriots. Republican governors refused to expand Medicaid specifically to harm Democrats and the poor.

That's ridiculous, on it's face.  The reason why many Republican governors have refused to expand Medicaid has nothing to do with harming the poor.  They recognize that the expansion locks them in to the Federally mandated guidelines for eligibility, and while the federal government will pay for all of the difference in cost between the existing eligibility criteria and the expanded criteria, that amount drops down to 90% in the out years, and there is nothing to stop Congress from changing that allocation down the road, either.  At that point, states will be locked in and will have to make up the difference through their own general funds.

Since many states have balanced budget requirements, that means either those states raise taxes - and they'll have to raise them on everybody, not just the rich - or they'll have to cut the largest programs in most state budgets, which are education, welfare benefits and public safety.  This isn't a cut and dried "they didn't do this because they're evil" kind of argument. There are very valid arguments as to why it's a bad idea to accept the medicaid expansion, and many of those arguments include protecting the poor, not hurting them.  The working poor are most hard hit by state tax increases, public services cuts, and the like.


It does not matter which way you slice it the Republicans still screwed the poorer people in their states by refusing the medicaid expansion. It was a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. The problem is is that Republicans chose the option with much more negative PR.
 
2013-11-03 03:13:24 AM  

Mrbogey: Deal with it.


Say it:

I, Mrbogey have no real complaint against ACA or the Web site. I am butthurt that the Democrats reformed the health care system. This is a threat against my interests, ultimately, because I support a nation of uninsured Americans.

Do it.
 
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