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(Politico)   Politico finally wakes up and realizes that years of constant sabotage by Republicans might have actually contributed to Obamacare's rocky rollout   (politico.com) divider line 155
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2013-11-01 04:10:11 PM
img.fark.net
 
2013-11-01 04:13:14 PM
And the "duh" award goes to.....
 
2013-11-01 04:15:55 PM
Meh. Try to be a be-all source for so many states that refuse to cooperate, combined with typical government level BS is bound to be crappy out the door. It's just so obvious the way it's being attacked when shiat like this happens ALL the time.

Medicare Part D? Nope. Don't remember. Military procurement? Nope. Don't remember. Iraq billing system? Nope. Don't remember.

Something involving Obama? IT'S A shiatASTROPHE!!!!
 
2013-11-01 04:20:41 PM
FTComments:Republicans sabotaged it by not obeying the whims and desires of His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Barack Obama Dada, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, SCOAMF, and Last King of Scotland.

Had to google that one, ahem:

1. SCoaMF
Stuttering Clusterfark of a Miserable Failure.
An empty suit propped up by the media reading old tired Marxist tripe from a teleprompter.
A vapid celebrity or politician incapable of originating or uttering a coherent thought without a teleprompter or cue cards.
Someone demonstrably stupid and yet convinced of their own infallibility, even though unable to think or emote.
A politician or celebrity who has no resume, no plan, no clue, and cannot speak without someone telling them what to say.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-11-01 04:21:37 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: FTComments:Republicans sabotaged it by not obeying the whims and desires of His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Barack Obama Dada, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, SCOAMF, and Last King of Scotland.

Had to google that one, ahem:

1. SCoaMF
Stuttering Clusterfark of a Miserable Failure.
An empty suit propped up by the media reading old tired Marxist tripe from a teleprompter.
A vapid celebrity or politician incapable of originating or uttering a coherent thought without a teleprompter or cue cards.
Someone demonstrably stupid and yet convinced of their own infallibility, even though unable to think or emote.
A politician or celebrity who has no resume, no plan, no clue, and cannot speak without someone telling them what to say.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 300x188]


jaysus. really?
 
2013-11-01 04:22:37 PM

FlashHarry: The RIchest Man in Babylon: FTComments:Republicans sabotaged it by not obeying the whims and desires of His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Barack Obama Dada, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, SCOAMF, and Last King of Scotland.

Had to google that one, ahem:

1. SCoaMF
Stuttering Clusterfark of a Miserable Failure.
An empty suit propped up by the media reading old tired Marxist tripe from a teleprompter.
A vapid celebrity or politician incapable of originating or uttering a coherent thought without a teleprompter or cue cards.
Someone demonstrably stupid and yet convinced of their own infallibility, even though unable to think or emote.
A politician or celebrity who has no resume, no plan, no clue, and cannot speak without someone telling them what to say.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 300x188]

jaysus. really?


You can't make this shiat up.
 
2013-11-01 04:54:34 PM
I'm continually amazed at how moronic the journalists who are supposed to cover this stuff are.
 
2013-11-01 04:54:55 PM
done, one
 
2013-11-01 04:55:53 PM
unrealitymag.bcmediagroup.netdna-cdn.com
 
2013-11-01 04:55:57 PM
Golly.
 
2013-11-01 04:56:10 PM
meanwhile, back at the barn, the headline of the local paper:

"Residents stunned by costs"

why yes - we have a republican governor - who refused to expand medicaid and refused to set up a state exchange

that this particular red/blue state issue hasn't come up is a serious flaw in reporting
 
2013-11-01 04:57:37 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: FlashHarry: The RIchest Man in Babylon: FTComments:Republicans sabotaged it by not obeying the whims and desires of His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Barack Obama Dada, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, SCOAMF, and Last King of Scotland.

Had to google that one, ahem:

1. SCoaMF
Stuttering Clusterfark of a Miserable Failure.
An empty suit propped up by the media reading old tired Marxist tripe from a teleprompter.
A vapid celebrity or politician incapable of originating or uttering a coherent thought without a teleprompter or cue cards.
Someone demonstrably stupid and yet convinced of their own infallibility, even though unable to think or emote.
A politician or celebrity who has no resume, no plan, no clue, and cannot speak without someone telling them what to say.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 300x188]

jaysus. really?

You can't make this shiat up.


I bet he even submited that himself (or herself, stupid knows no gender).
 
2013-11-01 04:58:06 PM
green? on freeper friday?
 
2013-11-01 05:01:52 PM

FlashHarry: green? on freeper friday?


Makes more sense than in Bronie Monday. Or Caturday.
 
2013-11-01 05:01:54 PM

FlashHarry: green? on freeper friday?


according to a different thread, Fark is all pro-Obama, all the time.
 
2013-11-01 05:02:42 PM

ManateeGag: FlashHarry: green? on freeper friday?

according to a different thread, Fark is all pro-Obama, all the time.


And according to reddit, we're conservatives. So in truth, we're all just drunk.
 
2013-11-01 05:04:30 PM

CygnusDarius: So in truth, we're all just drunk.


thanks for reminding me. i need a beer.
 
2013-11-01 05:04:57 PM
damn republicans, you screw up all our brilliant ideas
 
2013-11-01 05:05:10 PM
ooh boy
 
2013-11-01 05:05:13 PM
Ugh.  I hate rocky rollout.  It's my least-favorite flavor of ice cream.
 
2013-11-01 05:06:46 PM
Gee, ya think??????
 
2013-11-01 05:07:51 PM

FlashHarry: [img.fark.net image 600x445]



Done in one.
 
2013-11-01 05:08:35 PM
If Republicans were truly out to undermine the ACA they would have tried to kill it through legislation, legal action or run a presidential candidate who promised to kill it.

So, this is obviously more left-wing propaganda.
 
2013-11-01 05:10:30 PM
Lieberal lies!!! It's all Sebeghazi's fault!!
 
2013-11-01 05:12:51 PM

ManateeGag: FlashHarry: green? on freeper friday?

according to a different thread, Fark is all pro-Obama, all the time.


Well after all, when Romney won the election, all the threads pointing out that Obama was leading in the skewed polls that libtards pretended were real on Fark were deleted to avoid their embarassment, that is how much Fark is in the tank for the libs.
 
2013-11-01 05:14:46 PM
Holy crap...like a disoriented Egon after looking directly at the streams, I read the comments.

It's like they cloned my dumbass uncle a thousand times and all are trying to shout over each other.
 
2013-11-01 05:15:16 PM
Listen, I'm not sure how to break this to you guys, but most Americans really don't care about the site's problems. Sure they're upset/celebrating it depending on their leanings, but the real story here is the increase in rates for just about everyone else.
 
2013-11-01 05:15:31 PM

Zeb Hesselgresser: damn republicans, you screw up all our brilliant ideas


Would it have been perfectly implemented in a hypothetical world where nobody took a case all the way to the Supreme Court to decide the individual shared responsibility payment was constitutional and part of the Medicaid expansion was unconstitutional? I don't know.

Would it have been perfectly implemented in a hypothetical world where all Republican governors accepted money from the federal government to expand Medicaid and formed their own exchanges? I don't know.

Would it have been perfectly implemented in a hypothetical world where Congress gave HHS the money they requested to implement the law? I don't know.

Would it have been perfectly implemented in a hypothetical world where Republicans didn't threaten groups of people from advertising the benefits of the new law and getting insured for next year? I don't know.

Would it have been perfectly implemented in a hypothetical world where conservative organizations didn't explicitly try to incite young Americans to become martyrs for their cause by not buying health insurance starting next year? I don't know.

Would it have been perfectly implemented in a hypothetical world where Republicans took seriously their duty to care for their constituents and helped them sign up for health coverage starting next year? I don't know.

I can sure tell you one thing: if the law still crashed and burned like it has so far, there would be no way to blame the Republican Party for deliberately sabotaging the law, and that law would almost certainly be repealed by the end of 2015.
 
2013-11-01 05:16:59 PM
I don't think it's "Politico woke up", I think it's more "Politico got really specific on the what's and where's, especially after the shutdown".
 
2013-11-01 05:17:22 PM

Wadded Beef: Holy crap...like a disoriented Egon after looking directly at the streams, I read the comments.

It's like they cloned my dumbass uncle a thousand times and all are trying to shout over each other.


Never read the bottom half of the internet. :)
 
2013-11-01 05:17:44 PM

Cletus C.: If Republicans were truly out to undermine the ACA they would have tried to kill it through legislation, legal action or run a presidential candidate who promised to kill it.

So, this is obviously more left-wing propaganda.


You mean like they did?
 
2013-11-01 05:20:57 PM
Serious Black:
I can sure tell you one thing: if the law still crashed and burned like it has so far...

A crash and burn, sure, if you're believing the mainstream derp. It's definitely not perfect in any way, but it's held up well despite the circumstances.
 
2013-11-01 05:21:46 PM

Serious Black: I can sure tell you one thing: if the law still crashed and burned like it has so far, there would be no way to blame the Republican Party for deliberately sabotaging the law, and that law would almost certainly be repealed by the end of 2015.


"crashed and burned" hyperbole much?

You can still sign up by phone and by appointment and the state sites in general have been working fine. California the most populous state in the nation site is doing fine.

Do you think every other federal program "crashed and burned" when the government had no web site for service and you had to call in or go to a building. Medicare didn't have a website, Social Security had no website. Did they "crash and burn" too because their website was non-existent which is much much worse then the shape of the federal exchange site now.
 
2013-11-01 05:22:07 PM

Triple Oak: Serious Black:
I can sure tell you one thing: if the law still crashed and burned like it has so far...

A crash and burn, sure, if you're believing the mainstream derp. It's definitely not perfect in any way, but it's held up well despite the circumstances.


I'm not sure I'd classify a website shiat-show as the law "crashing and burning" so much as the website being a shiat-show and everything else being pretty much normal.
 
2013-11-01 05:23:26 PM

Aidan: Wadded Beef: Holy crap...like a disoriented Egon after looking directly at the streams, I read the comments.

It's like they cloned my dumbass uncle a thousand times and all are trying to shout over each other.

Never read the bottom half of the internet. :)


RIGHT?!?
 
2013-11-01 05:24:32 PM

Triple Oak: Serious Black:
I can sure tell you one thing: if the law still crashed and burned like it has so far...

A crash and burn, sure, if you're believing the mainstream derp. It's definitely not perfect in any way, but it's held up well despite the circumstances.


This is funny:

Access via phone or going in - FINE!

Access via phone or going in, PLUS website having some problems for some users - OMG! Crash and burn!!!

How does that make any sense.
 
2013-11-01 05:25:29 PM

Triple Oak: Serious Black:
I can sure tell you one thing: if the law still crashed and burned like it has so far...

A crash and burn, sure, if you're believing the mainstream derp. It's definitely not perfect in any way, but it's held up well despite the circumstances.


Corvus: "crashed and burned" hyperbole much?

You can still sign up by phone and by appointment and the state sites in general have been working fine. California the most populous state in the nation site is doing fine.

Do you think every other federal program "crashed and burned" when the government had no web site for service and you had to call in or go to a building. Medicare didn't have a website, Social Security had no website. Did they "crash and burn" too because their website was non-existent which is much much worse then the shape of the federal exchange site now.


dr_blasto: I'm not sure I'd classify a website shiat-show as the law "crashing and burning" so much as the website being a shiat-show and everything else being pretty much normal.


Yeah, it's hyperbole to say the law is crashing and burning. The healthcare.gov website though...
 
2013-11-01 05:28:22 PM

havocmike: Listen, I'm not sure how to break this to you guys, but most Americans really don't care about the site's problems. Sure they're upset/celebrating it depending on their leanings, but the real story here is the increase in rates for just about everyone else.


img.fark.net
 
2013-11-01 05:29:26 PM

Serious Black: Yeah, it's hyperbole to say the law is crashing and burning. The healthcare.gov website though...


Is having Issues.

Ah yes we remember how GTA V "crashed and burned" too. Or how World of Warcraft "Crashed and Burned". Or seriously put in almost any game that has a server component that actually has been successful for the last 5 years.

Server issues are fairly common with big services. To act like it's some sort of "OMG this means it's a failure" is a joke.
 
2013-11-01 05:30:52 PM
Don't worry, there's plenty of other articles on Politico criticizing Fartbongocare.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/the-obamacare-whiners-rich-low ry -opinion-99143.html?ml=po_r
 
2013-11-01 05:31:06 PM

havocmike: Listen, I'm not sure how to break this to you guys, but most Americans really don't care about the site's problems. Sure they're upset/celebrating it depending on their leanings, but the real story here is the increase in rates for just about everyone else.


You have any like actual data to back that up? Or just think repeating something enough makes it true?
 
2013-11-01 05:33:23 PM

Gyrfalcon: Cletus C.: If Republicans were truly out to undermine the ACA they would have tried to kill it through legislation, legal action or run a presidential candidate who promised to kill it.

So, this is obviously more left-wing propaganda.

You mean like they did?


Oh come on. I'm not that bad.

I saw my father lose his job, start his own business with no health coverage and suffer an illness that racked up hundreds of thousands in medical bills. I saw the stress of those bills exacerbate his medical problems and I watched him die.

A proud, successful man most of his life and a health care system in this country that left him behind. A disgrace. I knew that farked up system needed fixing but I saw politicians screeching about "socialized medicine" every time attempts were made. And I saw special interests step up to kill every attempt to fix it.

It should never have been that way with my father and wouldn't have been if the ACA were in effect when he was alive. So, I will poke fun at the failures with healthcare.gov and challenge the blindly faithful when they defend any and all flaws, but I will not, ever, criticize the good intentions of the ACA. Those are good, patriotic and necessary. And I will not, ever, root for its failure.

This message has been brought to you by me. Don't ever make me act this way again.
 
2013-11-01 05:33:48 PM

Corvus: Triple Oak: Serious Black:
I can sure tell you one thing: if the law still crashed and burned like it has so far...

A crash and burn, sure, if you're believing the mainstream derp. It's definitely not perfect in any way, but it's held up well despite the circumstances.

This is funny:

Access via phone or going in - FINE!

Access via phone or going in, PLUS website having some problems for some users - OMG! Crash and burn!!!

How does that make any sense.


I think I can link it to the dot-com boom of the 1990s. Really.

Remember those halcyon days when any business plan, however unworkable and unrealistic, could be made to look new and smell mountain-spring-fresh simply by tacking the words "...on the Internet!" on the end of it? Try it. It's like sticking "...in bed!" on the end of a fortune cookie fortune.

The sheer volume of money created on (admittedly two-ply and squeezably soft) paper during that era helped cement an axiom-It all worked oh so much better when it worked online, and when it didn't work online it was the worst thing since sliced Hitler. Like doing stuff online actually  amplified the user experience, for better or worse. (See also: Ubik)

That's what's happening here. People just believe that the online experience reflects the whole user experience, when they're only interacting with one portion of it. Because that's what they grew up hearing.
 
2013-11-01 05:38:07 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: FTComments:Republicans sabotaged it by not obeying the whims and desires of His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Barack Obama Dada, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, SCOAMF, and Last King of Scotland.

Had to google that one, ahem:

1. SCoaMF
Stuttering Clusterfark of a Miserable Failure.
An empty suit propped up by the media reading old tired Marxist tripe from a teleprompter.
A vapid celebrity or politician incapable of originating or uttering a coherent thought without a teleprompter or cue cards.
Someone demonstrably stupid and yet convinced of their own infallibility, even though unable to think or emote.
A politician or celebrity who has no resume, no plan, no clue, and cannot speak without someone telling them what to say.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 300x188]


They forgot "a worthless pile of subhuman garbage what ought to be put out of our country's misery".

/hi NSA guys, what's up?
 
2013-11-01 05:39:08 PM

ManateeGag: FlashHarry: green? on freeper friday?

according to a different thread, Fark is all pro-Obama, all the time.


And fellatio, fellatio, fellatio!
 
2013-11-01 05:40:31 PM

havocmike: Listen, I'm not sure how to break this to you guys, but most Americans really don't care about the site's problems. Sure they're upset/celebrating it depending on their leanings, but the real story here is the increase in rates for just about everyone else.


*notsureifserious.jpg*
 
2013-11-01 05:41:40 PM

odinsposse: havocmike: Listen, I'm not sure how to break this to you guys, but most Americans really don't care about the site's problems. Sure they're upset/celebrating it depending on their leanings, but the real story here is the increase in rates for just about everyone else.

[img.fark.net image 850x617]


But I've been assured repeatedly by my Conservative friends that NO ONE will be allowed to keep their current plan.
 
2013-11-01 05:42:15 PM
Pants full of macaroni!!:

And fellatio, fellatio, fellatio!

I'm using this website all wrong, apparently
 
2013-11-01 05:43:27 PM

Corvus: havocmike: Listen, I'm not sure how to break this to you guys, but most Americans really don't care about the site's problems. Sure they're upset/celebrating it depending on their leanings, but the real story here is the increase in rates for just about everyone else.

You have any like actual data to back that up? Or just think repeating something enough makes it true?


C'mon! Everybody knows that repeating something often enough makes it true. The only item in question is have we passed the threshold yet?
 
2013-11-01 05:53:29 PM

Corvus: Serious Black: I can sure tell you one thing: if the law still crashed and burned like it has so far, there would be no way to blame the Republican Party for deliberately sabotaging the law, and that law would almost certainly be repealed by the end of 2015.

"crashed and burned" hyperbole much?

You can still sign up by phone and by appointment and the state sites in general have been working fine. California the most populous state in the nation site is doing fine.

Do you think every other federal program "crashed and burned" when the government had no web site for service and you had to call in or go to a building. Medicare didn't have a website, Social Security had no website. Did they "crash and burn" too because their website was non-existent which is much much worse then the shape of the federal exchange site now.


Oh yeah, only a shiat-show in the states with shiatbag government that couldn't be arsed to take already set aside (OK, I'll refrain from free money, but this is as close as you can actually get) money, expand medicare and create an exchange. So, fark you for voting for them - because if you're one of the people biatching up a storm, you're probably someone in a red state that voted for your Republican "leadership" and, I guess, you're getting what you deserve.

Now, all the poor souls who voted against the retards running their Republican states? Sorry, I hope the tide eventually turns in your favor. I'm in the same farking boat.
 
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