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(Life With Dogs)   Dog slips his leash, runs off from owner. Owner catches up with dog to find it guarding a very, very dusty bag with an abandoned baby inside   (lifewithdogs.tv) divider line 74
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2013-11-01 02:54:55 PM  
The dog deserves steak, for the rest of her life.
And the parents deserve to get curb stomped, repeatedly, then shot for good measure.
 
2013-11-01 03:00:06 PM  
Good dog.
Cute kid.
 
2013-11-01 03:28:16 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: And the parents deserve to get curb stomped, repeatedly, then shot for good measure.


And by that you mean given the necessary mental health treatment that is so obviously needed, right?
 
2013-11-01 03:34:30 PM  
Dogs can be like that.  Our puppy definitely has that instinct, he freaks out if our 6 year old daughter doesn't get off the bus when it comes by because we picked her up from school or something.
 
2013-11-01 03:50:29 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Unoriginal_Username: And the parents deserve to get curb stomped, repeatedly, then shot for good measure.

And by that you mean given the necessary mental health treatment that is so obviously needed, right?


I can tolerate a lot of things. This crosses the line for me. If you do something that puts the life of a child, especially a newborn, at risk, then I feel that you forfeit your life. Yes, it could be that they need help, and sure there are some that are willing to give them that help. I am not one of those people.

I put it in this perspective. What would I do if someone did something like this to one of my kids. My answer is simple. The would never be found. And I would gladly accept any punishment for my reaction.

I do not believe we have the right to stop people from having kids, this does not stop me from wishing that some people would be smart enough to get themselves fixed before something like this happens.
 
2013-11-01 04:46:18 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: Soup4Bonnie: Unoriginal_Username: And the parents deserve to get curb stomped, repeatedly, then shot for good measure.

And by that you mean given the necessary mental health treatment that is so obviously needed, right?

I can tolerate a lot of things. This crosses the line for me. If you do something that puts the life of a child, especially a newborn, at risk, then I feel that you forfeit your life. Yes, it could be that they need help, and sure there are some that are willing to give them that help. I am not one of those people.

I put it in this perspective. What would I do if someone did something like this to one of my kids. My answer is simple. The would never be found. And I would gladly accept any punishment for my reaction.

I do not believe we have the right to stop people from having kids, this does not stop me from wishing that some people would be smart enough to get themselves fixed before something like this happens.


This is a pretty interesting argument, because neither one of you are really wrong.

mediabane.com
I'd have to imagine they have similar safe haven laws to what we do here, I really don't understand why anyone wouldn't simply take it to the nearest hospital, police or fire station.
 
2013-11-01 05:09:45 PM  
Weird fact: Apparently babies and newborn animals have a particular scent that other animals, especially mammals, detect, and their parental instinct appears.

So maybe the dog had his Parental Mode activated when he caught scent of the kid. Either way, I think the child should be kept by someone else that can take care of the him.
 
2013-11-01 05:15:01 PM  
May I please have Jade's mailing address so I can send the pooch a lifetime supply of Beggin Strips?
 
2013-11-01 05:15:42 PM  

nekom: I'd have to imagine they have similar safe haven laws to what we do here, I really don't understand why anyone wouldn't simply take it to the nearest hospital, police or fire station.


I suspect they do, but you have to be aware of those laws to make use of them. I grew up in an extremely liberal environment, and I didn't hear about safe haven laws until I was about 25*.

* But I'm kind of oblivious, so YMMV.
 
2013-11-01 05:16:12 PM  

ModeratelyProfane: May I please have Jade's mailing address so I can send the pooch a lifetime supply of Beggin Strips?


Fake bacon? You monster!.
 
2013-11-01 05:17:47 PM  
Meanwhile, some cats can successfully be trained to shiat in a box!

Mine would do the same.... Pro-tip for new dog owners:  Keep your dog's favorite treats handy when you go out in public, and slip them to any kid who asks to pet your pup.  Your dog will believe the world is filled with friendly little treat dispensers!
 
2013-11-01 05:25:12 PM  

Aidan: nekom: I'd have to imagine they have similar safe haven laws to what we do here, I really don't understand why anyone wouldn't simply take it to the nearest hospital, police or fire station.

I suspect they do, but you have to be aware of those laws to make use of them. I grew up in an extremely liberal environment, and I didn't hear about safe haven laws until I was about 25*.

* But I'm kind of oblivious, so YMMV.


They cheer for babies to die in the "extremely liberal" parts of the world so don't be too hard on yourself.

Vote Wendy Davis!
 
2013-11-01 05:26:47 PM  
how is babby found
 
2013-11-01 05:27:26 PM  
FACT= more babies are abandoned in red state areas. (abandoned, not left with hospitals/fire)
 
2013-11-01 05:28:53 PM  

SFSailor: Meanwhile, some cats can successfully be trained to shiat in a box!

Mine would do the same.... Pro-tip for new dog owners:  Keep your dog's favorite treats handy when you go out in public, and slip them to any kid who asks to pet your pup.  Your dog will believe the world is filled with friendly little treat dispensers!


Lmao, my dog already thinks that thanks in no small part to last night! Hordes of kids came to the door with bags full of candy, holding them open...obviously so she could stick her entire head in and pick just the right piece!
 
2013-11-01 05:29:46 PM  
Heroine Canine, absotively posolutely.  Remote skritchies for Jade, which are insufficient.
 
2013-11-01 05:29:53 PM  

Chach: Aidan: nekom: I'd have to imagine they have similar safe haven laws to what we do here, I really don't understand why anyone wouldn't simply take it to the nearest hospital, police or fire station.

I suspect they do, but you have to be aware of those laws to make use of them. I grew up in an extremely liberal environment, and I didn't hear about safe haven laws until I was about 25*.

* But I'm kind of oblivious, so YMMV.

They cheer for babies to die in the "extremely liberal" parts of the world so don't be too hard on yourself.

Vote Wendy Davis!


Yeah it's not a baby until its out of the womb and is viable enough to live
 
2013-11-01 05:36:43 PM  

RidersOfLohan: FACT= more babies are abandoned in red state areas. (abandoned, not left with hospitals/fire)


F*cking English red-staters.
 
2013-11-01 05:37:34 PM  
i.ytimg.com
 
2013-11-01 05:37:47 PM  
Parents need to go to jail. This is not so that she doesn't keep dumping babies, but because she needs to be an "example". Drop the baby off at the hospital, firehouse or PD? OK, no questions asked. Leave a baby do die in the park? That's jail time, plus all your assets should be sold for the child's up keep.

We lock up people for stealing things and using pot recreationally. What about people who kill their own babies? There really is not person lower than that and that is a danger to other people. If she's willing to kill her own baby, what do you think she'd willing to do to you?
 
2013-11-01 05:37:56 PM  

nekom: Dogs can be like that.  Our puppy definitely has that instinct, he freaks out if our 6 year old daughter doesn't get off the bus when it comes by because we picked her up from school or something.


One thing I learned from the obedience classes I went through with my dog is that dogs are extremely interested in routines. They learn our usual comings and goings and when we deviate from our routine they get nervous.

Your dog knows that every weekday you are supposed to pick up their packmate from the bus around a certain time of the day and when that schedule is disrupted they don't know WTF's going on. They just know something is different today, and for a being without the capability to communicate with you to find out the reasons why that can be scary. I never would have figured dogs would be so interested in routine, but according to our trainer they are.
 
2013-11-01 05:38:04 PM  
FTA: The infant, now known as "Baby Jade," was named after her four-legged hero rescuer.

Good thing the dog wasn't named Indiana.

/props to the dog, and its owner - good boys!
 
2013-11-01 05:40:09 PM  
Usually when my dog slips his leash, it's because he wants to eat another dog's poop.

I wish I had this dog.
 
2013-11-01 05:40:56 PM  
That's a great story, but...
"The infant, now known as "Baby Jade," was named after her four-legged hero rescuer."

A) She's going to have to tell people she was named after a dog. Hope she doesn't end up being ugly.
B) If she doesn't end up being ugly, that name pretty much guarantees a career on the pole.
 
2013-11-01 05:41:43 PM  
FTA:

Authorities hope Baby Jade's mother comes forward soon.

Why? Isnt there like a 3-5 year waitlist for adopting healthy white babies? Couples who, you know, actually want a child?
 
2013-11-01 05:45:50 PM  
So does the guy w the dog get to keep the babby?  finders keepers.

poor kid, when she grows up she's going to know she was abandoned and then named after a dog.
rough start.
 
2013-11-01 05:48:13 PM  
I would think DNA testing the baby would give a better result than testing of the blanket.  Who gives birth to a blanket?
 
2013-11-01 05:48:48 PM  
The father was probably the mother's father, the child is possibly the unwanted result of sexual abuse.
That would explain the abandonment, not wanting the authorities to know about the abuse.
 
2013-11-01 05:48:52 PM  

no clever name here just move along: So does the guy w the dog get to keep the babby?  finders keepers.

poor kid, when she grows up she's going to know she was abandoned and then named after a dog.
rough start.


Are you kidding?  That's an origin story.

She's going to turn out to be an orphan from an alien world, and she'll be able to talk to wolves.
 
2013-11-01 05:56:15 PM  

mongbiohazard: nekom: Dogs can be like that.  Our puppy definitely has that instinct, he freaks out if our 6 year old daughter doesn't get off the bus when it comes by because we picked her up from school or something.

One thing I learned from the obedience classes I went through with my dog is that dogs are extremely interested in routines. They learn our usual comings and goings and when we deviate from our routine they get nervous.

Your dog knows that every weekday you are supposed to pick up their packmate from the bus around a certain time of the day and when that schedule is disrupted they don't know WTF's going on. They just know something is different today, and for a being without the capability to communicate with you to find out the reasons why that can be scary. I never would have figured dogs would be so interested in routine, but according to our trainer they are.


Could be just that, could be protective/shepherd instinct, probably a tad of both.  Our puppy also went to obedience classes, I think he has one more left.  The weird thing is, he also watches her get on the bus, but then ALSO watches the other kids (later bus) to make sure they got on.  I have no doubt that our pup would make a scene if there was a child who appeared to be in need/down.  They really are quite noble companions.
 
2013-11-01 05:56:26 PM  

broken jebus: Usually when my dog slips his leash, it's because he wants to eat another dog's poop.

I wish I had this dog.


My guess is the dog was let off leash.
 
2013-11-01 05:57:44 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Unoriginal_Username: And the parents deserve to get curb stomped, repeatedly, then shot for good measure.

And by that you mean given the necessary mental health treatment that is so obviously needed, right?


No amount of mental health treatment will fix such an extreme disregard for life.
 
2013-11-01 05:58:34 PM  
FENTON!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GRSbr0EYYU

/Can't possibly be obscure
 
2013-11-01 05:59:48 PM  

mongbiohazard: nekom: Dogs can be like that.  Our puppy definitely has that instinct, he freaks out if our 6 year old daughter doesn't get off the bus when it comes by because we picked her up from school or something.

One thing I learned from the obedience classes I went through with my dog is that dogs are extremely interested in routines. They learn our usual comings and goings and when we deviate from our routine they get nervous.

Your dog knows that every weekday you are supposed to pick up their packmate from the bus around a certain time of the day and when that schedule is disrupted they don't know WTF's going on. They just know something is different today, and for a being without the capability to communicate with you to find out the reasons why that can be scary. I never would have figured dogs would be so interested in routine, but according to our trainer they are.


Probably because they're pack animals.  In the pack, each member has a role: alpha, hunter of food, guard of puppies, etc.  A daily routine helps reinforce their role in the pack.
 
2013-11-01 06:01:33 PM  

anwserman: Chach: Aidan: nekom: I'd have to imagine they have similar safe haven laws to what we do here, I really don't understand why anyone wouldn't simply take it to the nearest hospital, police or fire station.

I suspect they do, but you have to be aware of those laws to make use of them. I grew up in an extremely liberal environment, and I didn't hear about safe haven laws until I was about 25*.

* But I'm kind of oblivious, so YMMV.

They cheer for babies to die in the "extremely liberal" parts of the world so don't be too hard on yourself.

Vote Wendy Davis!

Yeah it's not a baby until its out of the womb and is viable enough to live


I take it both of you are volunteering to either take care of or subsidize baby Jade until she is an adult.
 
2013-11-01 06:06:48 PM  
A dog does something heroic, and then some pissant troll makes a political debate out of it.
 
2013-11-01 06:07:11 PM  
Abandoning any kid is one good reason why people should be able to give up kids without giving up any personal info. It's just our mean-spirited need to punish that keeps demanding we expose and/or prosecute anyone who "could have done such a thing." With all of this publicity that little girl probably has dozens of people lined up to adopt her.

That whole website is dusty as hell. If hell is dusty...
 
2013-11-01 06:10:54 PM  

Alex_Lee: Abandoning any kid is one good reason why people should be able to give up kids without giving up any personal info. It's just our mean-spirited need to punish that keeps demanding we expose and/or prosecute anyone who "could have done such a thing." With all of this publicity that little girl probably has dozens of people lined up to adopt her.

That whole website is dusty as hell. If hell is dusty...



Don't most states have safe-harbor baby surrender laws?  Any police station, fire station, or hospital will take them around here, no questions.
 
2013-11-01 06:11:00 PM  

SarcasticFark: No amount of mental health treatment will fix such an extreme disregard for life.


Well, if you say so and it's on the internet then it must be true.  Thanks, Doctor.
 
2013-11-01 06:18:24 PM  
well, subby, she didnt exactly slip her leash.  she was already walking off-leash, according to the article:  "The hero canine was off leash and when she made the discovery she made sure Wilday became aware of the tiny human in need as well."

but still a great story even though the headline was straight from the handbook on yellow journalism.
 
2013-11-01 06:40:18 PM  

broken jebus: Usually when my dog slips his leash, it's because he wants to eat another dog's poop.

I wish I had this dog.


Well, maybe the article just failed to mention the poop part.
 
2013-11-01 06:49:55 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: The dog deserves steak, for the rest of her life.
And the parents deserve to get curb stomped, repeatedly, then shot for good measure.


Or just repeatedly shot. A lot. A whole lot.
 
2013-11-01 06:50:30 PM  
i.huffpost.com

//recent pup rescue in Austin. Yeah...
 
2013-11-01 07:05:19 PM  
FTA:"The baby was found in good health and is expected to make a full recovery. Authorities hope Baby Jade's mother comes forward soon."

Yeah, that would be just greeeeeeaaaat, considering a dog just proved itself a better caretaker for the baby than the mother herself.
 
2013-11-01 07:21:00 PM  

nekom: Could be just that, could be protective/shepherd instinct, probably a tad of both. Our puppy also went to obedience classes, I think he has one more left. The weird thing is, he also watches her get on the bus, but then ALSO watches the other kids (later bus) to make sure they got on. I have no doubt that our pup would make a scene if there was a child who appeared to be in need/down. They really are quite noble companions.


Yeah, I'm sure it's a bit of both too. That routine is important to your pup because your kid is a member of their pack. That's roughly equivalent to family for them. The breaking of the routine is alarming because that's the way they notice something is amiss in this complicated human world they live in. Now that they have the routine of your daughter getting on and off the bus the other kids are part of that routine too as that routine involves all the kids doing what they're supposed to do each time.

If something went awry with another kid doing the "getting on the bus" routine it would probably freak the pup out as things weren't happening to the pup's mind "like they're supposed to." To the dog's mind the kids are supposed to get on and off the bus at X and Y times, and if something isn't happening as usual then something they do not fully understand has gone WRONG and they need to try and defend against whatever is going wrong (or flee, or whatever the individual pup is inclined to do).

Dogs have a roughly equivalent intelligence to a 2-3 year old kid. I think they manage to do pretty good with that, considering.

Lachwen: Probably because they're pack animals. In the pack, each member has a role: alpha, hunter of food, guard of puppies, etc. A daily routine helps reinforce their role in the pack.


I think it was explained to me that it's at least in some part because they live with us in a human world, and while we take the world we've built for ourselves completely for granted it's really way too complicated of a place for them to understand. So routines are comforting, and helps them understand that everything is going OK because X, Y and Z are occurring like they always do.

The hardest part of obedience classes was trying to wrap my head around the fact that dogs are not really just sort of like dumb humans. They have a fundamentally different thought process. It was difficult to remember and put in to practice, but fascinating. They have a much harder time with cause and effect then even a human child of like intelligence level would have, but on the other hand they would be much more inclined to understand when your kid might need to be protected to the death then another 2 1/2 year old human child would.

They're really a genetically engineered companion creature for us, and that's pretty awesome when you think about it.
 
2013-11-01 07:25:44 PM  
Thank FSM the dog wasn't a pit bull, or it would have been a much sadder story.

/amidoingitright?
//Happy Pit owner
 
2013-11-01 07:28:01 PM  

nekom: Unoriginal_Username: Soup4Bonnie: Unoriginal_Username: And the parents deserve to get curb stomped, repeatedly, then shot for good measure.

And by that you mean given the necessary mental health treatment that is so obviously needed, right?

I can tolerate a lot of things. This crosses the line for me. If you do something that puts the life of a child, especially a newborn, at risk, then I feel that you forfeit your life. Yes, it could be that they need help, and sure there are some that are willing to give them that help. I am not one of those people.

I put it in this perspective. What would I do if someone did something like this to one of my kids. My answer is simple. The would never be found. And I would gladly accept any punishment for my reaction.

I do not believe we have the right to stop people from having kids, this does not stop me from wishing that some people would be smart enough to get themselves fixed before something like this happens.

This is a pretty interesting argument, because neither one of you are really wrong.

[mediabane.com image 500x400]
I'd have to imagine they have similar safe haven laws to what we do here, I really don't understand why anyone wouldn't simply take it to the nearest hospital, police or fire station.


Some googling shows that the UK doesn't have any safe haven laws and one commenter noted that the decision on whether or not to file charges varies based on the whims of the local police. So that would be why the local fire or police station wouldn't work in that situation.
 
2013-11-01 07:30:13 PM  
GOOD DOG
 
2013-11-01 07:30:33 PM  
"There was no-one else in the park at the time and it was very cold. If it wasn't for Jade that baby could would have been dead."
 
2013-11-01 07:31:29 PM  

FreeBirdInTheHand: broken jebus: Usually when my dog slips his leash, it's because he wants to eat another dog's poop.

I wish I had this dog.

Well, maybe the article just failed to mention the poop part.


Quite possibly there was feces around the baby.  Meconium's a helluva drug.
 
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