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2013-11-01 02:13:05 PM
Freshway Foodstrucks bear signs stating, "It's not a choice, it's a child," as a way to promote the owners' anti-abortion views to the public, according to the legal complaint.

How can you justify being so anti-abortion AND anti-contraceptive?  I bet they support abstinence only "education" too.  FFS.
 
2013-11-01 02:20:23 PM
Does that mean the owners become personally responsible?
If so, I will joyfully celebrate the end of corporate personhood.

/Somebody didn't think this through.
 
2013-11-01 02:20:41 PM
Actually, several appeals circuits have already struck it down, and it's already on its way to the Supreme Court, where we will likely get a landmark decision saying that corporations have religious rights.

Or we'll get a decision like this one, which pretends that the owners of a corporation are the same as a corporation.
 
2013-11-01 02:21:03 PM
But remember, it's gays and liberals who are demanding "special rights."
 
2013-11-01 02:21:10 PM
I hate people.
 
2013-11-01 02:23:03 PM
This would be a very awkward and strange precedent to set. I hope it gets overturned by SCOTUS.
 
2013-11-01 02:24:39 PM
So we have corporations as people and now people as corporations.
 
2013-11-01 02:24:56 PM

Rincewind53: Actually, several appeals circuits have already struck it down, and it's already on its way to the Supreme Court, where we will likely get a landmark decision saying that corporations have religious rights.

Or we'll get a decision like this one, which pretends that the owners of a corporation are the same as a corporation.


Corporate religions is a very very strange concept.
 
2013-11-01 02:26:53 PM

enry: So we have corporations as people and now people as corporations.


I wonder how the evangelicals will reconcile corporate religion with that whole "thou shalt have no other gods before me" line in their bible?
 
2013-11-01 02:27:32 PM
Carl's Jr. is my shepherd; I shall not want.
 
2013-11-01 02:29:20 PM
I should incorporate myself, take out massive loans, declare bankruptcy and walk away from myself to a resort in the Bahamas.
 
2013-11-01 02:30:02 PM
How can a company interject itself between a patient and their doctor and dictate medical policy (via forcing their insurer to not cover something already in the policy in teh first place)?

Isn't that a blatant HIPAA violation?
 
2013-11-01 02:30:31 PM
I can foresee a lot of unintended consequences for this kind of thing.

"Sorry, Jeanine, you'll have to go over to the woman's satellite office while you're on your menses.  Company policy."
 
2013-11-01 02:31:24 PM

Weaver95: This would be a very awkward and strange precedent to set. I hope it gets overturned by SCOTUS.


I'm a Jewish business owner and the Torah says slavery is a-okay, so why can't I go buy some people to work in my stores?

I'm a Christian Scientist business owner, so why can't I deny coverage for any drugs?

I'm a Jehovah's Witness business owner, so why can't I deny coverage for blood transfusions?

Seriously, this is a terrifying bit of precedent to set.
 
2013-11-01 02:31:52 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Freshway Foodstrucks bear signs stating, "It's not a choice, it's a child," as a way to promote the owners' anti-abortion views to the public, according to the legal complaint.

How can you justify being so anti-abortion AND anti-contraceptive?  I bet they support abstinence only "education" too.  FFS.


They just hate women.
 
2013-11-01 02:37:11 PM
As a snake handler I refuse to pay for any health coverage beyond a good old fashioned rattle snake dance.
 
2013-11-01 02:37:13 PM

Weaver95: Rincewind53: Actually, several appeals circuits have already struck it down, and it's already on its way to the Supreme Court, where we will likely get a landmark decision saying that corporations have religious rights.

Or we'll get a decision like this one, which pretends that the owners of a corporation are the same as a corporation.

Corporate religions is a very very strange concept.


It is indeed. If the Court upholds  Hobby Lobby, it will lead to a whole realm of new legal challenges by corporations. I'm not looking forward to it.
 
2013-11-01 02:38:19 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Weaver95: This would be a very awkward and strange precedent to set. I hope it gets overturned by SCOTUS.

I'm a Jewish business owner and the Torah says slavery is a-okay, so why can't I go buy some people to work in my stores?

I'm a Christian Scientist business owner, so why can't I deny coverage for any drugs?

I'm a Jehovah's Witness business owner, so why can't I deny coverage for blood transfusions?

Seriously, this is a terrifying bit of precedent to set.


Oh I dunno...watching the DEA try and deal with a rastafarian business would almost be worth the price of admission.
 
2013-11-01 02:40:26 PM
More and more I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
 
2013-11-01 02:43:54 PM

Weaver95: Rincewind53: Actually, several appeals circuits have already struck it down, and it's already on its way to the Supreme Court, where we will likely get a landmark decision saying that corporations have religious rights.

Or we'll get a decision like this one, which pretends that the owners of a corporation are the same as a corporation.

Corporate religions is a very very strange concept.


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"Son, you have NO idea."
 
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2013-11-01 02:48:38 PM
It's amusing depressing that people buy the idea that business have a right to freedom to religion but not people.
 
2013-11-01 03:03:24 PM
For f*ck sakes, they don't pay for contraception coverage, they pay for not covering it. Belief in a magic dude in the sky really f*cks with these peoples ability to do simple math.
 
2013-11-01 03:06:23 PM
And we wonder why the Senate GOP is 100% dead set on making sure Obama can't appoint anyone to this bench.
 
2013-11-01 03:19:24 PM
This reminds me of The Onion:

Christian Science Pharmacist refuses to fill ANY prescription.
 
2013-11-01 03:28:51 PM

Weaver95: Corporate religions is a very very strange concept.


That would be as odd as the Church selling indulgences... ....
 
2013-11-01 03:29:13 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Weaver95: This would be a very awkward and strange precedent to set. I hope it gets overturned by SCOTUS.

I'm a Jewish business owner and the Torah says slavery is a-okay, so why can't I go buy some people to work in my stores?

I'm a Christian Scientist business owner, so why can't I deny coverage for any drugs?

I'm a Jehovah's Witness business owner, so why can't I deny coverage for blood transfusions?

Seriously, this is a terrifying bit of precedent to set.


Does that mean my business can deny Viagra coverage for randy old men? That might improve our client relations.
 
2013-11-01 03:37:24 PM
T-Servo:.

Does that mean my business can deny Viagra coverage for randy old men? That might improve our client relations.


They wouldn't do that, old white men run these companies. They only want to punish sluts that have sex for any reason other than procreation.
 
2013-11-01 03:45:25 PM

Sgt Otter: Weaver95: Rincewind53: Actually, several appeals circuits have already struck it down, and it's already on its way to the Supreme Court, where we will likely get a landmark decision saying that corporations have religious rights.

Or we'll get a decision like this one, which pretends that the owners of a corporation are the same as a corporation.

Corporate religions is a very very strange concept.

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"Son, you have NO idea."


I was thinking more or less along these lines

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2013-11-01 03:56:43 PM
Stop this world...
 
2013-11-01 03:57:09 PM

Weaver95: enry: So we have corporations as people and now people as corporations.

I wonder how the evangelicals will reconcile corporate religion with that whole "thou shalt have no other gods before me" line in their bible?


If evangelicals cared about the message of Christianity there would be no evangelicals.
 
2013-11-01 04:10:09 PM

ginandbacon: Stop this world...


Too bad: They don't want you to get off.
 
2013-11-01 04:24:43 PM
Such hatred is disturbing

I wish we had an FWC thread to cool everyone down.
 
2013-11-01 04:39:23 PM
Religious freedom for thee but not for me?

What in the farking fark is going on?????
 
2013-11-01 04:41:12 PM
Perhaps they should STFU and let those with ovaries decide.
 
2013-11-01 04:41:59 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Freshway Foodstrucks bear signs stating, "It's not a choice, it's a child," as a way to promote the owners' anti-abortion views to the public, according to the legal complaint.

How can you justify being so anti-abortion AND anti-contraceptive?  I bet they support abstinence only "education" too.  FFS.


Because fark you for having sex,  woman.
 
2013-11-01 04:44:03 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Freshway Foodstrucks bear signs stating, "It's not a choice, it's a child," as a way to promote the owners' anti-abortion views to the public, according to the legal complaint.

How can you justify being so anti-abortion AND anti-contraceptive?  I bet they support abstinence only "education" too.  FFS.


They think they're the same thing.
 
2013-11-01 04:44:58 PM
So...  Now, if I worked for a "conservative" employer, that employer gets to decide whether/when my wife or daughter should/should not get pregnant?  Because Jesus?
 
2013-11-01 04:46:33 PM

Weaver95: Rincewind53: Actually, several appeals circuits have already struck it down, and it's already on its way to the Supreme Court, where we will likely get a landmark decision saying that corporations have religious rights.

Or we'll get a decision like this one, which pretends that the owners of a corporation are the same as a corporation.

Corporate religions is a very very strange concept.


Our Steve Jobs, which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name...
 
2013-11-01 04:47:04 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Freshway Foodstrucks bear signs stating, "It's not a choice, it's a child," as a way to promote the owners' anti-abortion views to the public, according to the legal complaint.

How can you justify being so anti-abortion AND anti-contraceptive?  I bet they support abstinence only "education" too.  FFS.


My problem with these idiots is not in the anti-abortion stance, but their position that the government is stomping on their freedoms while they use their freedoms to stomp on someone else's.
 
2013-11-01 04:47:19 PM
And yet there's still no outrage about boner pills, which are directly responsible for the deaths of untold billions of old guy sperm. Maybe not being able to get it up is a message from God?
 
2013-11-01 04:47:23 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Freshway Foodstrucks bear signs stating, "It's not a choice, it's a child," as a way to promote the owners' anti-abortion views to the public, according to the legal complaint.

How can you justify being so anti-abortion AND anti-contraceptive?  I bet they support abstinence only "education" too.  FFS.


I suspect they consider it your responsibility to wed before copulation and to be a mother and father to the children you sire. To love them, and raise them up proper. Not grind them up in a blender and flush them down a clinic drain. And they object to being made party to such a practice.
 
2013-11-01 04:48:11 PM
Since the Constitution prevents Congress from establishing a religion, I'm sure Scalia will use this chance for the Supreme Court to establish a religion.

/Welcome to Catholicism everybody. Remember: fish on Fridays, Saturday mass covers Sunday so you won't miss football, and you can't lie to nuns.
 
2013-11-01 04:49:18 PM

Clemkadidlefark: I suspect they consider it your responsibility to wed before copulation and to be a mother and father to the children you sire. To love them, and raise them up proper. Not grind them up in a blender and flush them down a clinic drain. And they object to being made party to such a practice.


Contraception is not abortion, please do try to keep up.
 
2013-11-01 04:49:30 PM
I just have one question...

Why are males making these decisions?

I say lets pass a law that says only women can make decisions on VIagra prescriptions and vasectomies.

/it's only fair...
 
2013-11-01 04:49:45 PM
CONTRACEPTIVES!

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What are CONTRACEPTIVES doing in this health plan, when I told you NO CONTRACEPTIVES EVERRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
2013-11-01 04:50:04 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Freshway Foodstrucks bear signs stating, "It's not a choice, it's a child," as a way to promote the owners' anti-abortion views to the public, according to the legal complaint.

How can you justify being so anti-abortion AND anti-contraceptive?  I bet they support abstinence only "education" too.  FFS.


They're pro-consequences for the un-virtuous. It's not a baby, it's a gift. And a punishment. But don't you ever feel resentful for having motherhood forced on you by strangers in political office, you dirty little slut.

They feel the same about healthcare. The hard-working and virtuous people don't get sick.
 
2013-11-01 04:50:42 PM
Interesting case, i'll be watching this one as it goes through the SC. I'm not a fan of the whole Corporations are People idea, but if the Bros are so against contraception they could always decide to sell the company, or just shut it down. I wonder how much the law affects the bottom line of purchasing the policies?
 
2013-11-01 04:51:19 PM
Assassinate the CEO and demand the government now recognize you as the owner according to your Sith religion
 
2013-11-01 04:52:24 PM
I can't wait until someone decides that your tumor is an actual living creature and they won't cover surgery or oncology because that would be killing one of God's greatest gifts.
 
2013-11-01 04:52:57 PM
A very well reasoned opinion.  I look forward to seeing Janice Rogers Brown on the US Supreme Court.
 
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