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(Deadline)   Son of the man who played the Tin Man in Wizard of Oz felt that Warner Bros. didn't give nothing to him he didn't already have, so he's suing to prevent the release of a new documentary on the making of the film classic   (deadline.com) divider line 40
    More: Followup, Warner Bros, documentary, fiduciary duties, Warner Home Video, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz  
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2013-11-01 11:24:48 AM  
Subby - Ummmm, no. Try reading the article next time.

The estate of Jack Haley Jr (the son of actor Jack Haley, who played the Tin Man) is suing for a share of the profits of a documentary that the son made back back in 1990. His original film has been re-edited, and the estate wants money from that, along with damages.

Jack Haley Jr has been dead since 2001 so I doubt he's been suing anyone lately.
 
2013-11-01 11:33:03 AM  
Was that article in English?
 
2013-11-01 11:40:16 AM  

wxboy: Was that article in English?


If I'm reading it right, Jack Haley, Jr. (who is now dead) made a documentary on Wizard of Oz.  He (or rather his estate) owns half the rights and Warner Bros. owns half the rights.  WB has been distributing the documentary for 25 years or so and they've been splitting the profits 50/50.

Now, apparently, WB wants all of the rights to the doc and are offering the estate a pittance ($150,000 vs. $4m in profits to date) for them.  When the estate said "no," they remixed some of the doc's material into a new documentary and are trying to sell that now while barring any use of the original documentary.  So the estate is suing.
 
2013-11-01 11:43:26 AM  
Thanks subby, now that song is going to be stuck in my head for the rest of the day.
 
2013-11-01 11:56:26 AM  

Neondistraction: Thanks subby, now that song is going to be stuck in my head for the rest of the day.


I'll help you along...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uJL8er_tV0
 
2013-11-01 11:58:35 AM  
WTF?  I could not understand a single sentence in that article.

I think it was written by this girl
 
2013-11-01 12:00:26 PM  
Warner Bros Sued By Estate Of 'Wizard Of Oz' Star's Heir Over Docu

Great, is THIS a thing now? Is the word "documentary" too long, or did these people just fark up their headline?
 
2013-11-01 12:05:47 PM  
I liked this documentary better when Buddy Ebsen's son was the director.
 
2013-11-01 12:18:48 PM  
Docu docu docu docu. F**K!!!!!
 
2013-11-01 12:31:16 PM  
Second-worst* casting mistake in Hollywood history. The guy was clearly a fancy-pants and not some sort of outdoorsman. I know the story of how and why he was a last-minute replacement, but still... Haley was just wrong for the part.

*Robert Redford as a scrappy young street-tough in The Sting was the one unforgivable blunder in an otherwise perfectly-cast film.
 
2013-11-01 12:45:02 PM  
"Ain't no body releasing shiat until someone explains what the fark a 'Tropic of Sir Gallahad' is!"
 
2013-11-01 01:09:29 PM  

rugman11: wxboy: Was that article in English?

If I'm reading it right, Jack Haley, Jr. (who is now dead) made a documentary on Wizard of Oz.  He (or rather his estate) owns half the rights and Warner Bros. owns half the rights.  WB has been distributing the documentary for 25 years or so and they've been splitting the profits 50/50.

Now, apparently, WB wants all of the rights to the doc and are offering the estate a pittance ($150,000 vs. $4m in profits to date) for them.  When the estate said "no," they remixed some of the doc's material into a new documentary and are trying to sell that now while barring any use of the original documentary.  So the estate is suing.


And cue the "I'm okay with this" guy.
 
2013-11-01 01:51:41 PM  
If the estate only had a heart, they'd stop with all the lawsuits.
 
2013-11-01 02:07:37 PM  

rugman11: wxboy: Was that article in English?

If I'm reading it right, Jack Haley, Jr. (who is now dead) made a documentary on Wizard of Oz.  He (or rather his estate) owns half the rights and Warner Bros. owns half the rights.  WB has been distributing the documentary for 25 years or so and they've been splitting the profits 50/50.

Now, apparently, WB wants all of the rights to the doc and are offering the estate a pittance ($150,000 vs. $4m in profits to date) for them.  When the estate said "no," they remixed some of the doc's material into a new documentary and are trying to sell that now while barring any use of the original documentary.  So the estate is suing.


Well that is a much clearer explanation than the article's lame legalese. Good job Rugman.
 
2013-11-01 02:14:15 PM  
That is some of the worst writing I've read in a long time.  It almost seems intentionally bad, as those the author wanted to see how many ways he could mangle the English language.
 
2013-11-01 02:20:37 PM  
Get a job, loser!
 
2013-11-01 02:20:42 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: "Ain't no body releasing shiat until someone explains what the fark a 'Tropic of Sir Gallahad' is!"


Dewey Bunnell penned the lyric and he says:

"The song is jumbled in my mind--there's not a lot of cohesiveness. I had really liked the chords, those major-sevenths. It was up and kind of bouncy, with a little Latin-y feel to it. That's how it is: I get the chords and the melody, and then I have to get some words."

"My favorite move of all time was probably The Wizard Of Oz, it still amazes me how great that movie is. And here's my classic use of bad grammar: 'Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man...' Another god-awful use of the language. But it served the purpose. But that was really the only cohesive thought I had. How do I convey that? The first verse--I guess that was a little bit of paranoia. We were being exposed to more and more sophisticated people, and there were times that I found myself with my foot in my mouth, saying things I wish I hadn't. The first verse is very ambiguous. 'The Tropic of Sir Gallahad' is a whole other image to me about being chivalrous or a gentleman. 'Spinning round, round, round, smoke glass stain bright colors...'--that's all just purely kaleidoscopic imagery. The melody definitely dictated those words, because it was a swirling, rising thing."
 
2013-11-01 02:47:45 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: Second-worst* casting mistake in Hollywood history. The guy was clearly a fancy-pants and not some sort of outdoorsman. I know the story of how and why he was a last-minute replacement, but still... Haley was just wrong for the part.

*Robert Redford as a scrappy young street-tough in The Sting was the one unforgivable blunder in an otherwise perfectly-cast film.


Clearly you've never experienced the gawdawful miscasting of Kevin Costner as Robin Hood and Christian Slater as Will Scarlet in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves.
 
2013-11-01 02:48:46 PM  

stupiddream: -that's all just purely kaleidoscopic imagery. The melody definitely dictated those words, because it was a swirling, rising thing."


SO he was high on some kind of a kick?
 
2013-11-01 02:52:58 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: "Ain't no body releasing shiat until someone explains what the fark a 'Tropic of Sir Gallahad' is!"


heh.  typical America lyric.  what do you expect from a band who rode to fame singing,"I been thru the desert on a horse with no name..."

/any America song makes me stabby.  so farking lame.
 
2013-11-01 02:57:52 PM  
stupiddream:  Dewey Bunnell penned the lyric and...

Lyrics were never that group's forte..."Let's see...we need to rhyme with 'eyes'. I've got it!  We'll randomly throw in the word 'surprise'  Yeah, that works."

I liked them when I was an adolescent, then one day (AFTER I bought their greatest hits album) I sat down and really listened to the lyrics.  I don't think I've listened to them since.
 
2013-11-01 03:35:58 PM  

stir22: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: "Ain't no body releasing shiat until someone explains what the fark a 'Tropic of Sir Gallahad' is!"

heh.  typical America lyric.  what do you expect from a band who rode to fame singing,"I been thru the desert on a horse with no name..."

/any America song makes me stabby.  so farking lame.


Must be ... Muskrat Looooooooove
 
2013-11-01 04:31:04 PM  

stupiddream: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: "Ain't no body releasing shiat until someone explains what the fark a 'Tropic of Sir Gallahad' is!"

Dewey Bunnell penned the lyric


Get out of here, Dewey. You don't want to part of this shiat.
 
2013-11-01 05:48:30 PM  

puckrock2000: Clearly you've never experienced the gawdawful miscasting of Kevin Costner as Robin Hood and Christian Slater as Will Scarlet in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves.


Tom Hanks as a Wall Street raider in Bonfire of the Vanities. Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist in The World is Not Enough. Tom Cruise in Eyes Wide Shut. Julia Roberts in anything.
 
2013-11-01 06:07:36 PM  

wxboy: Was that article in English?


ChewbaccaJones: WTF?  I could not understand a single sentence in that article.

I think it was written by this girl


timujin: That is some of the worst writing I've read in a long time.  It almost seems intentionally bad, as those the author wanted to see how many ways he could mangle the English language.


All of these. I made it this far:

were sued Wednesday by the estate of the Emmy winning late son of the actor who played the Tin Man in the movie. At dispute in the breach of fiduciary duties action (read it here) filed in federal court in Georgia is a documentary on the classic pic that the estate of Jack Haley Jr says WB is choking off unless it is given full rights to.

before I felt like blood was going to start shooting out of my eyeballs.
 
2013-11-01 06:25:43 PM  
fusillade762:

All of these. I made it this far:

were sued Wednesday by the estate of the Emmy winning late son of the actor who played the Tin Man in the movie. At dispute in the breach of fiduciary duties action (read it here) filed in federal court in Georgia is a documentary on the classic pic that the estate of Jack Haley Jr says WB is choking off unless it is given full rights to.

before I felt like blood was going to start shooting out of my eyeballs.


That's right about where I had to stop, and it was just after having a small head shake over the previous sentence, "Warner Bros. were sued Wednesday by the estate..."
 
2013-11-01 07:00:18 PM  
Alligator lizards in the air!
 
2013-11-01 07:09:05 PM  
Double negative headline trifecta in play?

/DRTA
 
2013-11-01 07:09:30 PM  
wasn't he maried to Liza when she was quasi-hot?
 
2013-11-01 07:24:51 PM  

stir22: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: "Ain't no body releasing shiat until someone explains what the fark a 'Tropic of Sir Gallahad' is!"


It's kinda sorta like The Pompatus of Love.

/likes America
//except their cover of Muskrat Love
 
2013-11-01 10:08:14 PM  

stir22: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: "Ain't no body releasing shiat until someone explains what the fark a 'Tropic of Sir Gallahad' is!"

heh.  typical America lyric.  what do you expect from a band who rode to fame singing,"I been thru the desert on a horse with no name..."

/any America song makes me stabby.  so farking lame.


When the laaaast eagle cries, at the laast dusty fountain....
 
2013-11-01 10:27:10 PM  

rugman11: wxboy: Was that article in English?

If I'm reading it right, Jack Haley, Jr. (who is now dead) made a documentary on Wizard of Oz.  He (or rather his estate) owns half the rights and Warner Bros. owns half the rights.  WB has been distributing the documentary for 25 years or so and they've been splitting the profits 50/50.

Now, apparently, WB wants all of the rights to the doc and are offering the estate a pittance ($150,000 vs. $4m in profits to date) for them.  When the estate said "no," they remixed some of the doc's material into a new documentary and are trying to sell that now while barring any use of the original documentary.  So the estate is suing.


I remember these stories every time there's an article on those nasty downloaders who are hurting the completely innocent movie studios and their profits.

Maybe the MPAA can send WB some literature on what's bad about copyright infringement.
 
2013-11-01 11:40:00 PM  

Snuffybud: Subby - Ummmm, no. Try reading the article next time.

The estate of Jack Haley Jr (the son of actor Jack Haley, who played the Tin Man) is suing for a share of the profits of a documentary that the son made back back in 1990. His original film has been re-edited, and the estate wants money from that, along with damages.

Jack Haley Jr has been dead since 2001 so I doubt he's been suing anyone lately.


Shocks me that any of the characters had kids, thought they were all gay.
 
2013-11-01 11:48:03 PM  

farkeruk: puckrock2000: Clearly you've never experienced the gawdawful miscasting of Kevin Costner as Robin Hood and Christian Slater as Will Scarlet in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves.

Tom Hanks as a Wall Street raider in Bonfire of the Vanities. Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist in The World is Not Enough. Tom Cruise in Eyes Wide Shut. Julia Roberts in anything.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-02 01:43:07 AM  
rugman11:
If I'm reading it right, Jack Haley, Jr. (who is now dead) made a documentary on Wizard of Oz.  He (or rather his estate) owns half the rights and Warner Bros. owns half the rights.  WB has been distributing the documentary for 25 years or so and they've been splitting the profits 50/50.

Now, apparently, WB wants all of the rights to the doc and are offering the estate a pittance ($150,000 vs. $4m in profits to date) for them.  When the estate said "no," they remixed some of the doc's material into a new documentary and are trying to sell that now while barring any use of the original documentary.  So the estate is suing.


This man deserves a Fark award for this. Do we have such a thing? Well if we do I nominate him as "That guy/gal who wins award for best explanation of an article posted on Fark"
 
2013-11-02 01:45:29 AM  

Snapper Carr: farkeruk: puckrock2000: Clearly you've never experienced the gawdawful miscasting of Kevin Costner as Robin Hood and Christian Slater as Will Scarlet in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves.

Tom Hanks as a Wall Street raider in Bonfire of the Vanities. Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist in The World is Not Enough. Tom Cruise in Eyes Wide Shut. Julia Roberts in anything.

[i.imgur.com image 630x450]


www.grolschfilmworks.com
 
2013-11-02 01:46:37 AM  
Snapper Carr: [i.imgur.com image 630x450]

The really creepy thing about The Conqueror is that an unusually large number of people involved in the making of that film died of cancer.
 
2013-11-02 03:10:43 AM  

Lorelle: Snapper Carr: [i.imgur.com image 630x450]

The really creepy thing about The Conqueror is that an unusually large number of people involved in the making of that film died of cancer.


Well, filming in the wake of the radioactive fallout from 11 Atomic Bombs will do that.

/wasn't just a larger than normal percentage of the cast and crew of The Conqueror, but of the ENTIRE TOWN of St. George, Utah that wound up contracting or dying of some type of cancer.
 
2013-11-02 09:34:50 AM  

broadsword: rugman11: wxboy: Was that article in English?

If I'm reading it right, Jack Haley, Jr. (who is now dead) made a documentary on Wizard of Oz.  He (or rather his estate) owns half the rights and Warner Bros. owns half the rights.  WB has been distributing the documentary for 25 years or so and they've been splitting the profits 50/50.

Now, apparently, WB wants all of the rights to the doc and are offering the estate a pittance ($150,000 vs. $4m in profits to date) for them.  When the estate said "no," they remixed some of the doc's material into a new documentary and are trying to sell that now while barring any use of the original documentary.  So the estate is suing.

I remember these stories every time there's an article on those nasty downloaders who are hurting the completely innocent movie studios and their profits.

Maybe the MPAA can send WB some literature on what's bad about copyright infringement.


Thieves hate being robbed more than anyone.
 
2013-11-02 01:43:41 PM  
I like the headline, subby. But, yeah now the song's stuck in my head.
 
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