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(Talking Points Memo)   Remember that Reid quote about how Romney didn't pay taxes for the last 10 years? Well we now know who told him that, Jon Huntsman   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 147
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2013-11-01 10:23:19 AM
How would Huntsman's dad know?
 
2013-11-01 10:26:50 AM
Huntsman Sr. is a major person in the Morman church. This was the rumored source when it leaked. Seems the Mormans weren't too happy with Rmoney
 
2013-11-01 10:27:07 AM
"Romney"

"Romney"

Rings a bell....

Was he an actor? Baseball manager?

I hope it comes to me or it will be driving me crazy all day
 
2013-11-01 10:43:08 AM

somedude210: Huntsman Sr. is a major person in the Morman church. This was the rumored source when it leaked. Seems the Mormans weren't too happy with Rmoney


They tithe. The Church knows exactly how much they make, etc.
 
2013-11-01 10:46:54 AM

BunkoSquad: "Romney"

"Romney"

Rings a bell....

Was he an actor? Baseball manager?

I hope it comes to me or it will be driving me crazy all day


The guy who put his dog on top of his car.
 
2013-11-01 10:51:18 AM
blogs.orlandoweekly.com
 
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2013-11-01 11:12:26 AM
It's not like anyone really doubted that it was true.  I doubt that many Republicans are surprised.
 
2013-11-01 11:16:23 AM

vpb: It's not like anyone really doubted that it was true.  I doubt that many Republicans are surprised.


I don't see any of the usual suspects so I will play along.

This isn't proof!!!
 
2013-11-01 11:35:21 AM

edmo: somedude210: Huntsman Sr. is a major person in the Morman church. This was the rumored source when it leaked. Seems the Mormans weren't too happy with Rmoney

They tithe. The Church knows exactly how much they make, etc.


Unless he was lying to the Church about how much they make. I'm pretty sure bearing false witness is still a sin in LDS.
 
2013-11-01 11:35:35 AM
Jon Huntsman:  the man who should've been the nominee but refused to sell his soul to Roger Ailes and Karl Rove.
 
2013-11-01 11:35:56 AM
Well you know,  Lemon. Wet. Good. and all...
 
2013-11-01 11:36:00 AM
I don't know why Republicans got all bent out of shape about this?  Don't they all pretty much have the same goal?
 
2013-11-01 11:36:08 AM
Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.
 
2013-11-01 11:36:40 AM

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Can't a man wank it in public without someone taking a pic?
 
2013-11-01 11:37:48 AM

Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.


Technically, he would only have to prove that someone close to Romney told him this, because that was his claim.
 
2013-11-01 11:37:48 AM

edmo: somedude210: Huntsman Sr. is a major person in the Morman church. This was the rumored source when it leaked. Seems the Mormans weren't too happy with Rmoney

They tithe. The Church knows exactly how much they make, etc.


Yep.  Years ago, my father had to deal with the Mormons.  A few of the doctor's working under him at the hospital were Mormons and they were suspected of under tithing.  They kept trying to trick the payroll dept. into turn over records.
 
2013-11-01 11:38:11 AM

Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.


So Romney is a tax cheat unless he proves otherwise?  Why the double standard for evidence?
 
2013-11-01 11:38:57 AM
Wasn't this speculated on at the time? The Huntsman clan was never enamored with Mitt and Reid is LDS himself. Perfect storm, really.
 
2013-11-01 11:39:15 AM

Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.


He denied it back when Harry Reid made the claim initially, sure. But I haven't seen any comments from him since this report leaked yesterday.
 
2013-11-01 11:39:23 AM

Serious Black: edmo: somedude210: Huntsman Sr. is a major person in the Morman church. This was the rumored source when it leaked. Seems the Mormans weren't too happy with Rmoney

They tithe. The Church knows exactly how much they make, etc.

Unless he was lying to the Church about how much they make. I'm pretty sure bearing false witness is still a sin in LDS.


Particularly if you're lying to skimp on your dues.
 
2013-11-01 11:40:18 AM

Pincy: I don't know why Republicans got all bent out of shape about this?  Don't they all pretty much have the same goal?



It wasn't republicans. It was all the people republicans told that millionaires can't afford a 3% tax increase.
 
2013-11-01 11:40:38 AM

mrshowrules: Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.

Technically, he would only have to prove that someone close to Romney told him this, because that was his claim.


He hasn't done that. But anyway, when you repeat a piece of gossip you take some ownership.
 
2013-11-01 11:41:11 AM

mrshowrules: How would Huntsman's dad know?


Because he's rich enough to buy and sell Romney? In other words, the 'Good Ol' Boys Club' comes to his club for permission to do anything. Even though, the writer is making a claim with apparently no backing, it wouldn't surprise me that the uber rich know each other's dirty secrets.
 
2013-11-01 11:42:14 AM

Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.



How does one go about proving they're not a lying piece of shiat?
 
2013-11-01 11:42:26 AM

Serious Black: Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.

He denied it back when Harry Reid made the claim initially, sure. But I haven't seen any comments from him since this report leaked yesterday.


So Romney is back to being a sainted holy figure who can do no wrong for Cletus.  Good to know.  I'm sure by next week he'll be back to being as scum bag who no one expected or wanted to win anyways and you can be sure that HE most certainly did vote for him, no sir.
 
2013-11-01 11:43:33 AM

ikanreed: Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.

So Romney is a tax cheat unless he proves otherwise?  Why the double standard for evidence?


If I say Obama is a secret mooslim, I am an idiot and lying piece of shiat until I prove otherwise. It doesn't make Obama a secret mooslim until he proves otherwise. See how that works?
 
2013-11-01 11:43:54 AM

Serious Black: I'm pretty sure bearing false witness is still a sin in LDS.


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"Are you kidding me? I would make up the wildest shiat and fleece every last penny from those hicks until...uhhhhhh, I mean, um, YEAH! It's totally wrong, and Jesus and the Cherokee children of Israel would look down on you as if you were drinking a cup of coffee, according to the super-secret decoder ring my angel pal whom only I can see gave me!"
 
2013-11-01 11:44:19 AM

Cletus C.: He hasn't done that. But anyway, when you repeat a piece of gossip you take some ownership.



For the record, then, you agree that Bush, Cheney, Condi, Rummy, and Powell are lying pieces of shiat for saying Saddam had WMDs?
 
2013-11-01 11:44:47 AM

Target Builder: Serious Black: edmo: somedude210: Huntsman Sr. is a major person in the Morman church. This was the rumored source when it leaked. Seems the Mormans weren't too happy with Rmoney

They tithe. The Church knows exactly how much they make, etc.

Unless he was lying to the Church about how much they make. I'm pretty sure bearing false witness is still a sin in LDS.

Particularly if you're lying to skimp on your dues.


Maybe it's different for people with higher callings like bishops and stake presidents, but for normal folks in the church, tithing is on the honor system. The bishop just asks if you pay an honest tithe. You don't have to submit documentation of your income. Of course they do have a record of how much you've tithed, but they don't know your exact income. But as I said, it may be different in the "big leagues".
 
2013-11-01 11:45:18 AM

Lord_Baull: Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.


How does one go about proving they're not a lying piece of shiat?


You could start by not saying inflammatory shiat without having some way of proving it's true.
 
2013-11-01 11:45:29 AM

Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.


Oh well, he denies it.  So, someone is lying but you have no proof of who.  So call it a mulligan and direct your outrage back to where it belongs.

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2013-11-01 11:45:35 AM

Cletus C.: ikanreed: Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.

So Romney is a tax cheat unless he proves otherwise?  Why the double standard for evidence?

If I say Obama is a secret mooslim, I am an idiot and lying piece of shiat until I prove otherwise. It doesn't make Obama a secret mooslim until he proves otherwise. See how that works?



Romney has stated he paid his taxes. See how that works?
 
2013-11-01 11:46:07 AM

God's Hubris: Cletus C.: He hasn't done that. But anyway, when you repeat a piece of gossip you take some ownership.


For the record, then, you agree that Bush, Cheney, Condi, Rummy, and Powell are lying pieces of shiat for saying Saddam had WMDs?


Bush.
 
2013-11-01 11:46:22 AM
We knew it was him at the time.  It's just that Huntsman Sr. denied it.
 
2013-11-01 11:47:16 AM

Cletus C.: Lord_Baull: Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.


How does one go about proving they're not a lying piece of shiat?

You could start by not saying inflammatory shiat without having some way of proving it's true.



Okay. That's a fair standard. So, now address this:

God's Hubris: For the record, then, you agree that Bush, Cheney, Condi, Rummy, and Powell are lying pieces of shiat for saying Saddam had WMDs?

 
2013-11-01 11:47:28 AM

Lord_Baull: Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.


How does one go about proving they're not a lying piece of shiat?


Start by taking a step up the social ladder. Quit politics and sell used cars.
 
2013-11-01 11:47:37 AM

CheetahOlivetti: Maybe it's different for people with higher callings like bishops and stake presidents, but for normal folks in the church, tithing is on the honor system. The bishop just asks if you pay an honest tithe. You don't have to submit documentation of your income. Of course they do have a record of how much you've tithed, but they don't know your exact income. But as I said, it may be different in the "big leagues".


If they suspect you're holding out on them, they'll ask for you to turn over copies of your pay stubs or taxes.  If you're well off and they think you're holding back on the Church, they'll even hire private investigators and/or try to get hold of your payroll info from your place of work.

Mormons don't fark around on money and they do NOT like it if their members try to hold out on them.  If they were pimps they wouldn't be above choking a biatch who came up short.
 
2013-11-01 11:48:37 AM

Cletus C.: God's Hubris: Cletus C.: He hasn't done that. But anyway, when you repeat a piece of gossip you take some ownership.


For the record, then, you agree that Bush, Cheney, Condi, Rummy, and Powell are lying pieces of shiat for saying Saddam had WMDs?

Bush.



But not the rest, eh?
 
2013-11-01 11:52:56 AM

Lord_Baull: Cletus C.: Lord_Baull: Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.


How does one go about proving they're not a lying piece of shiat?

You could start by not saying inflammatory shiat without having some way of proving it's true.


Okay. That's a fair standard. So, now address this:
God's Hubris: For the record, then, you agree that Bush, Cheney, Condi, Rummy, and Powell are lying pieces of shiat for saying Saddam had WMDs?


I did. I said Bush. Bush is responsible for and excuses everything always and forever.
 
2013-11-01 11:53:04 AM
Regardless of how much the guy does or doesn't pay in taxes, he's still rich.  Isn't the immorality of wealth enough?
 
2013-11-01 11:54:17 AM

somedude210: Huntsman Sr. is a major person in the Morman church. This was the rumored source when it leaked. Seems the Mormans weren't too happy with Rmoney


he denied it in August 2012 according to the article so why is it news now. oh yeah, now it's in a book.
 
2013-11-01 11:54:37 AM
The quote was Mittens didn't pay 'Income Taxes'.

The response from Mittens was that he paid ' Lots of taxes'.

Both of those can be true.
 
2013-11-01 11:55:09 AM

God's Hubris: Cletus C.: ikanreed: Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.

So Romney is a tax cheat unless he proves otherwise?  Why the double standard for evidence?

If I say Obama is a secret mooslim, I am an idiot and lying piece of shiat until I prove otherwise. It doesn't make Obama a secret mooslim until he proves otherwise. See how that works?


Romney has stated he paid his taxes. See how that works?


no, see, it's perfectly fair to keep making the claim after the birth certificate was posted for all to see, but it's unfair to make the claim since romney didn't release his tax info.

or something.
 
2013-11-01 11:55:35 AM

Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Huntsman Sr. is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.


FTFY
 
2013-11-01 11:56:25 AM
Meh. The important thing is that nobody doubted it, Romney's reaction almost proved it, and it was one of many reasons Obama won. In 2016 I plan to start a rumor that Cruz wasn't born in America.
 
2013-11-01 11:56:37 AM

MFAWG: The quote was Mittens didn't pay 'Income Taxes'.

The response from Mittens was that he paid ' Lots of taxes'.

Both of those can be true.


But hilarious because its the same thing they were saying about poor people not paying "taxes"
 
2013-11-01 11:56:40 AM

God's Hubris: Cletus C.: ikanreed: Cletus C.: Huntsman Sr. denies it. Reid is still a lying piece of shiat until he proves otherwise.

So Romney is a tax cheat unless he proves otherwise?  Why the double standard for evidence?

If I say Obama is a secret mooslim, I am an idiot and lying piece of shiat until I prove otherwise. It doesn't make Obama a secret mooslim until he proves otherwise. See how that works?


Romney has stated he paid his taxes. See how that works?


Wait, did he ever say what his tax rate was? Or just that he "Paid everything he owed"?

Paying everything you owe can be exactly the same as paying no income tax.
 
2013-11-01 11:58:09 AM
Mormon Fight!
 
2013-11-01 11:59:28 AM

CPennypacker: MFAWG: The quote was Mittens didn't pay 'Income Taxes'.

The response from Mittens was that he paid ' Lots of taxes'.

Both of those can be true.

But hilarious because its the same thing they were saying about poor people not paying "taxes"


Hoisted on their own petard of half truths and lies by omission, yes.
 
2013-11-01 12:01:07 PM

KyngNothing: Paying everything you owe can be exactly the same as paying no income tax.


Exactly.  The real reason that Romney refused to release his tax forms--even though that refusal was politically very damaging--is not that they would have shown he broke the law, but because they would have started a conversation about why it is legal for the obscenely rich to pay no taxes.  That conversation would be devastating for rich conservatives.
 
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