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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Disney CEO insists Episode VII be released in 2015. Perhaps he could find new ways to motivate them   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 47
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2013-10-31 11:46:32 PM  
We shall double our efforts!
 
2013-10-31 11:54:27 PM  
I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it any further.
 
2013-11-01 12:07:33 AM  
I have a bad feeling about this
 
2013-11-01 12:09:32 AM  
I hope so, J.J. Abrams, for your sake. The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am ...
 
2013-11-01 12:12:13 AM  
If this happens, they'll compete with "Avengers: Age of Ultron." Maybe a risky move, or maybe 2014 will be the year people get sick of funny-book movies. I have no idea. If I thought I could predict trends, I'd be in Hollywood ordering some tubby guy to write giant spiders into my movie endings.

On the other hand, "Star Wars" has a built-in audience. As long as there are lightsabers and some guy wears robes, it'll sell. It's kind of like "Final Fantasy" games or those "Colla Doody" ones.
 
2013-11-01 12:21:50 AM  
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2013-11-01 01:27:32 AM  
Search your feelings, Farkers. You will know it to be true.
 
2013-11-01 01:28:55 AM  

GreenAdder: If this happens, they'll compete with "Avengers: Age of Ultron."


I'm not sure I understand why they'd want to compete with their own movie...
 
2013-11-01 01:30:12 AM  
'That's No Moon'!

/or something
 
2013-11-01 01:38:42 AM  
"Uh, everything's under control. Situation normal. Had a slight malfunction, but, uh, everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine--we're all fine here now. Thank you. How are you?"
 
2013-11-01 01:46:59 AM  
Yup. This movie is going to blow.

I don't blame Harrison if he decides to stay out of this mess, even if he did agree to that horrible Indiana Jones 4 disaster.
 
2013-11-01 01:56:44 AM  

fusillade762: GreenAdder: If this happens, they'll compete with "Avengers: Age of Ultron."

I'm not sure I understand why they'd want to compete with their own movie...


True enough, I suppose. Though isn't Paramount still getting a piece of the Marvel pie, or is that over?
 
2013-11-01 01:58:07 AM  

blacksharpiemarker: Yup. This movie is going to blow.


Disney knows what the average person expects and will provide that and nothing more. It'll be a formulaic blockbuster like the superhero and children's movies they've churned out. And you'll all eat it right up.

They have it down to a science. A few more years of this and they won't even need writers. Just have a computer program writing movies the way people expect them to be made.
 
2013-11-01 02:07:56 AM  
i.imgur.com

Finds your lack of faith disturbing.
 
2013-11-01 02:12:13 AM  
cdn2.joshuakennon.com
 
2013-11-01 02:13:32 AM  
Disney Studios: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

/[hand wave] these aren't the sequels you're looking for
 
2013-11-01 02:18:10 AM  

J. Frank Parnell: blacksharpiemarker: Yup. This movie is going to blow.

Disney knows what the average person expects and will provide that and nothing more. It'll be a formulaic blockbuster like the superhero and children's movies they've churned out. And you'll all eat it right up.

They have it down to a science. A few more years of this and they won't even need writers. Just have a computer program writing movies the way people expect them to be made.


marcusmichaels.com
 
2013-11-01 02:34:00 AM  
I'm still trying to figure out why it has to be summer 2015. Winter 2015 could still get huge returns, and I haven't heard any chatter of them actually starting any other tie in, prequel, stand alone, etc. It's not like filming Avengers before finishing Captain America or Thor. Something weird is going on. Kicking out one writer, demanding a screen date 18 months later w/o even shooting. Something fishy is going on. Maybe they already ordered the merch and they're trying to figure out how to use the characters that are already action figures before they've been given dialog, mannerisms, place in the plot, or actors.
 
2013-11-01 02:51:52 AM  

J. Frank Parnell: Search your feelings, Farkers. You will know it to be true.


No... that's not true! That's impossible!
 
2013-11-01 02:58:31 AM  
Um, Disney was never going to throw down $150-$200 million per movie for a franchise, and then give it an open ended release schedule. They want to make back their money as soon as possible, and setting summer of 2015 as a target date isn't that unreasonable.

You figure 6 months of pre-production, 3 months shooting, then another 6 months scoring, editing, and adding effects. Lots of movies would kill to have a production schedule like that.

fusillade762: GreenAdder: If this happens, they'll compete with "Avengers: Age of Ultron."

I'm not sure I understand why they'd want to compete with their own movie...



Because the majority of the movie going audience isn't going to spend the entire summer going to see the Avengers over and over again.

Plus, by then, audiences might be tired of the characters. Downey is only in because he was guaranteed a shiatload of money, and Captain America and Thor are decent but lesser franchises.

Whedon's going to have to break out more than "But they're all on screen at the same time!" to keep people interested this go round.
 
2013-11-01 02:59:58 AM  
Ha! It's further along than you think.

Witness the power of this fully armed and operational Episode VII!
 
2013-11-01 03:11:54 AM  

fusillade762: GreenAdder: If this happens, they'll compete with "Avengers: Age of Ultron."

I'm not sure I understand why they'd want to compete with their own movie...


Star Wars movies come out in May... though then again, so did The Avengers. Okay, yeah, I'm not sure what's up. I could see them putting out SW7 in May and then Avengers 2 in, say, July so that they're not directly competing with each other, but other than that I can't really imagine what the plan is for that year.

/All I know is that it's going to be weird seeing the "Marvel" studio screen before the Lucasfilm Ltd. one
//Even weirder not having the 20th Century Fox fanfare
 
2013-11-01 03:56:43 AM  

J. Frank Parnell: blacksharpiemarker: Yup. This movie is going to blow.

Disney knows what the average person expects and will provide that and nothing more. It'll be a formulaic blockbuster like the superhero and children's movies they've churned out. And you'll all eat it right up.


Yes, it would be awful if a Star Wars movie were to be some sort of roller-coaster space-action crowd-pleaser. I certainly hope that the people behind formulaic mass-market superhero/children's movies don't sully the legacy of a blockbuster about space wizards that cribbed its plot from the hoariest storytelling formula in Western literature.

The new trilogy would be much better if it abandoned the traditional hero's-journey narrative formula, and left the rollicking space action behind. Maybe we could instead make a trilogy about adult themes like the human cost of asceticism, the merits of effete democracy versus robust tyranny, and the intersection of war and politics in a system where the combatants are manufactured and the commanders meet in secrecy. We could maybe follow intertwining plots of a young Jedi lifted from poverty but chafing against the harshness of the ascetic codes, and of a scheming politician who plots to use the paralyzed malleability of the Galactic Republic as a tool for his own ends. Could you imagine how awesome a trilogy like that could be?

That sounds way, way, way better than some all-ages action-adventure about teenagers and laserguns that would probably end in like a moon or something blowing up. Ugh. I can't even imagine enjoying a movie like that.
 
2013-11-01 04:14:54 AM  

blacksharpiemarker: Yup. This movie is going to blow.

I don't blame Harrison if he decides to stay out of this mess, even if he did agree to that horrible Indiana Jones 4 disaster.


Ford'll be there. From what I hear:
The long-term contract he had to sign,
Says he'll be making these movies till the end of time,
With my Yoda. Yo yo yo yo Yoda.

/Abrams and Iger. But which is the master and which is the apprentice?
 
2013-11-01 04:26:09 AM  

pkjun: J. Frank Parnell: blacksharpiemarker: Yup. This movie is going to blow.

Disney knows what the average person expects and will provide that and nothing more. It'll be a formulaic blockbuster like the superhero and children's movies they've churned out. And you'll all eat it right up.

Yes, it would be awful if a Star Wars movie were to be some sort of roller-coaster space-action crowd-pleaser. I certainly hope that the people behind formulaic mass-market superhero/children's movies don't sully the legacy of a blockbuster about space wizards that cribbed its plot from the hoariest storytelling formula in Western literature.

The new trilogy would be much better if it abandoned the traditional hero's-journey narrative formula, and left the rollicking space action behind. Maybe we could instead make a trilogy about adult themes like the human cost of asceticism, the merits of effete democracy versus robust tyranny, and the intersection of war and politics in a system where the combatants are manufactured and the commanders meet in secrecy. We could maybe follow intertwining plots of a young Jedi lifted from poverty but chafing against the harshness of the ascetic codes, and of a scheming politician who plots to use the paralyzed malleability of the Galactic Republic as a tool for his own ends. Could you imagine how awesome a trilogy like that could be?

That sounds way, way, way better than some all-ages action-adventure about teenagers and laserguns that would probably end in like a moon or something blowing up. Ugh. I can't even imagine enjoying a movie like that.


Can't tell if trolling or not.
 
2013-11-01 05:30:47 AM  

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 850x478]


"It's about Han Solo because, thankfully, Harrison Ford is still around."

Harrison Ford Begs Agents to Just let Him Die Now
 
2013-11-01 07:36:52 AM  
Crap, that reminds me, I've got to start planning another mass combat for my Star Wars d20 campaign.

/hard to believe it's been a full year since we ran their part of the Battle of Endor
 
2013-11-01 07:45:27 AM  
if they know they are doing three movies and two additiona spin offs, why don't they pen them all at the same time? they don't have to be 100% but it seems like you'd want them semi sketched in.
 
2013-11-01 08:02:26 AM  

NickelP: if they know they are doing three movies and two additiona spin offs, why don't they pen them all at the same time? they don't have to be 100% but it seems like you'd want them semi sketched in.


I'm sure they've got an over-arching story bible.  JMS had the general story arc of B5 written from the beginning, but he didn't write every episode in before filming Midnight on the Firing Line.
 
2013-11-01 08:16:29 AM  

pkjun: J. Frank Parnell: blacksharpiemarker: Yup. This movie is going to blow.

Disney knows what the average person expects and will provide that and nothing more. It'll be a formulaic blockbuster like the superhero and children's movies they've churned out. And you'll all eat it right up.

Yes, it would be awful if a Star Wars movie were to be some sort of roller-coaster space-action crowd-pleaser. I certainly hope that the people behind formulaic mass-market superhero/children's movies don't sully the legacy of a blockbuster about space wizards that cribbed its plot from the hoariest storytelling formula in Western literature.

The new trilogy would be much better if it abandoned the traditional hero's-journey narrative formula, and left the rollicking space action behind. Maybe we could instead make a trilogy about adult themes like the human cost of asceticism, the merits of effete democracy versus robust tyranny, and the intersection of war and politics in a system where the combatants are manufactured and the commanders meet in secrecy. We could maybe follow intertwining plots of a young Jedi lifted from poverty but chafing against the harshness of the ascetic codes, and of a scheming politician who plots to use the paralyzed malleability of the Galactic Republic as a tool for his own ends. Could you imagine how awesome a trilogy like that could be?

That sounds way, way, way better than some all-ages action-adventure about teenagers and laserguns that would probably end in like a moon or something blowing up. Ugh. I can't even imagine enjoying a movie like that.


Well-played.
 
2013-11-01 08:21:13 AM  

pkjun: Yes, it would be awful if a Star Wars movie were to be some sort of roller-coaster space-action crowd-pleaser. I certainly hope that the people behind formulaic mass-market superhero/children's movies don't sully the legacy of a blockbuster about space wizards that cribbed its plot from the hoariest storytelling formula in Western literature.


Well, about half of the conceits are from Western literature.  A number of core plot elements were stolen from Kurosawa.

/And the Death Star Trench battle was an homage to Michner's Bridges at Toko-Ri - Western, but very contemporary compared to most of the heroic journey constructs from older Western lit.
 
2013-11-01 08:42:29 AM  

UNC_Samurai: pkjun: Yes, it would be awful if a Star Wars movie were to be some sort of roller-coaster space-action crowd-pleaser. I certainly hope that the people behind formulaic mass-market superhero/children's movies don't sully the legacy of a blockbuster about space wizards that cribbed its plot from the hoariest storytelling formula in Western literature.

Well, about half of the conceits are from Western literature.  A number of core plot elements were stolen from Kurosawa.

/And the Death Star Trench battle was an homage to Michner's Bridges at Toko-Ri - Western, but very contemporary compared to most of the heroic journey constructs from older Western lit.


Just pointing out the irony of fretting over "formulaic" movies when Lucas was deliberately attempting to adhere to the Campbell hero-myth formula for the originals.
 
2013-11-01 08:56:02 AM  

pkjun: J. Frank Parnell: blacksharpiemarker: Yup. This movie is going to blow.

Disney knows what the average person expects and will provide that and nothing more. It'll be a formulaic blockbuster like the superhero and children's movies they've churned out. And you'll all eat it right up.

Yes, it would be awful if a Star Wars movie were to be some sort of roller-coaster space-action crowd-pleaser. I certainly hope that the people behind formulaic mass-market superhero/children's movies don't sully the legacy of a blockbuster about space wizards that cribbed its plot from the hoariest storytelling formula in Western literature.

The new trilogy would be much better if it abandoned the traditional hero's-journey narrative formula, and left the rollicking space action behind. Maybe we could instead make a trilogy about adult themes like the human cost of asceticism, the merits of effete democracy versus robust tyranny, and the intersection of war and politics in a system where the combatants are manufactured and the commanders meet in secrecy. We could maybe follow intertwining plots of a young Jedi lifted from poverty but chafing against the harshness of the ascetic codes, and of a scheming politician who plots to use the paralyzed malleability of the Galactic Republic as a tool for his own ends. Could you imagine how awesome a trilogy like that could be?

That sounds way, way, way better than some all-ages action-adventure about teenagers and laserguns that would probably end in like a moon or something blowing up. Ugh. I can't even imagine enjoying a movie like that.


That was beautiful.
 
2013-11-01 09:04:31 AM  

pkjun: UNC_Samurai: pkjun: Yes, it would be awful if a Star Wars movie were to be some sort of roller-coaster space-action crowd-pleaser. I certainly hope that the people behind formulaic mass-market superhero/children's movies don't sully the legacy of a blockbuster about space wizards that cribbed its plot from the hoariest storytelling formula in Western literature.

Well, about half of the conceits are from Western literature.  A number of core plot elements were stolen from Kurosawa.

/And the Death Star Trench battle was an homage to Michner's Bridges at Toko-Ri - Western, but very contemporary compared to most of the heroic journey constructs from older Western lit.

Just pointing out the irony of fretting over "formulaic" movies when Lucas was deliberately attempting to adhere to the Campbell hero-myth formula for the originals.


No doubt - the problem with the Star Wars movies has never been the core heroic journey arc.  It's always been bad character and actor choices, particularly voices, accents, and line readings.
 
2013-11-01 09:26:05 AM  
Will this movie have SETS?, Was trying to watch the existing ones in the Machete order that someone in another thread suggested, but even ignoring Ep I it's clear the cause of at least some of the stilted acting is because they have nothing to contextualize the scenes in.

The prequel's would have been an order of magnitude better.

/Still makes them several orders below the worst of TROMA bust still
 
2013-11-01 09:45:16 AM  

UNC_Samurai: It's always been bad character and actor choices, particularly voices, accents, and line readings.


Not even Sydney Farking Poitier could pull off the "I hate sand" speech from whichever farking prequel that was.
 
2013-11-01 10:01:19 AM  
I'm not expecting anything great, but since Lucas isn't writing or directing, it will at least likely fall somewhere between the original trilogy and the prequels. Hopefully closer to the OT, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
2013-11-01 10:01:38 AM  

KipKips: pkjun: J. Frank Parnell: blacksharpiemarker: Yup. This movie is going to blow.

Disney knows what the average person expects and will provide that and nothing more. It'll be a formulaic blockbuster like the superhero and children's movies they've churned out. And you'll all eat it right up.

Yes, it would be awful if a Star Wars movie were to be some sort of roller-coaster space-action crowd-pleaser. I certainly hope that the people behind formulaic mass-market superhero/children's movies don't sully the legacy of a blockbuster about space wizards that cribbed its plot from the hoariest storytelling formula in Western literature.

The new trilogy would be much better if it abandoned the traditional hero's-journey narrative formula, and left the rollicking space action behind. Maybe we could instead make a trilogy about adult themes like the human cost of asceticism, the merits of effete democracy versus robust tyranny, and the intersection of war and politics in a system where the combatants are manufactured and the commanders meet in secrecy. We could maybe follow intertwining plots of a young Jedi lifted from poverty but chafing against the harshness of the ascetic codes, and of a scheming politician who plots to use the paralyzed malleability of the Galactic Republic as a tool for his own ends. Could you imagine how awesome a trilogy like that could be?

That sounds way, way, way better than some all-ages action-adventure about teenagers and laserguns that would probably end in like a moon or something blowing up. Ugh. I can't even imagine enjoying a movie like that.

Can't tell if trolling or not.


Is pure awesome
 
2013-11-01 10:04:20 AM  

pkjun: Yes, it would be awful if a Star Wars movie were to be some sort of roller-coaster space-action crowd-pleaser. I certainly hope that the people behind formulaic mass-market superhero/children's movies don't sully the legacy of a blockbuster about space wizards that cribbed its plot from the hoariest storytelling formula in Western literature.

The new trilogy would be much better if it abandoned the traditional hero's-journey narrative formula, and left the rollicking space action behind. Maybe we could instead make a trilogy about adult themes like the human cost of asceticism, the merits of effete democracy versus robust tyranny, and the intersection of war and politics in a system where the combatants are manufactured and the commanders meet in secrecy. We could maybe follow intertwining plots of a young Jedi lifted from poverty but chafing against the harshness of the ascetic codes, and of a scheming politician who plots to use the paralyzed malleability of the Galactic Republic as a tool for his own ends. Could you imagine how awesome a trilogy like that could be?

That sounds way, way, way better than some all-ages action-adventure about teenagers and laserguns that would probably end in like a moon or something blowing up. Ugh. I can't even imagine enjoying a movie like that.


img.fark.net
 
2013-11-01 11:00:42 AM  
Of the six star wars films, only two had real production difficulties and strict deadlines. Episodes 4 and 5. Maybe this stress is just what the production needs.
 
2013-11-01 11:57:46 AM  

smilingcorpse: Of the six star wars films, only two had real production difficulties and strict deadlines. Episodes 4 and 5. Maybe this stress is just what the production needs.


The prevailing theory is that Spielberg's best movies always had some problems that he had to overcome in order to make it work, and made the movie a lot better that way. Jaws, specifically. The shark broke so much they had to frame and shoot everything so differently, making it a better movie in the long run.
 
2013-11-01 02:08:35 PM  
Didn't the movie get pushed to fall/winter 2015? I thought May was out.
 
2013-11-01 02:17:55 PM  
Why not follow tradition and release Episodes 10, 11, and 12 first, and then 10-15 years later release Episodes 7, 8, and 9.
 
2013-11-01 04:32:19 PM  

devilEther: Why not follow tradition and release Episodes 10, 11, and 12 first, and then 10-15 years later release Episodes 7, 8, and 9.


...because by that point the majority of the original cast probably won't be looking too good!

resources3.news.com.au
 
2013-11-01 04:49:51 PM  

JayCab: //Even weirder not having the 20th Century Fox fanfare


I hadn't though about it until you said that, but THIS. My ex when she was a kid used to think that fanfare *always* meant Star Wars was coming on...
 
2013-11-02 02:16:44 AM  

albatros183: Will this movie have SETS?, Was trying to watch the existing ones in the Machete order that someone in another thread suggested, but even ignoring Ep I it's clear the cause of at least some of the stilted acting is because they have nothing to contextualize the scenes in.

The prequel's would have been an order of magnitude better.

/Still makes them several orders below the worst of TROMA bust still


The sets weren't so much a problem since the midground they interacted with mostly existed (though it was mostly blank textures).  The problem is that they had to act against tennis balls on sticks because half the characters were CGI.  They only used one Clone Trooper uniform.
 
2013-11-02 05:38:11 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Crap, that reminds me, I've got to start planning another mass combat for my Star Wars d20 campaign.

/hard to believe it's been a full year since we ran their part of the Battle of Endor


Now I want to play
 
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