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vossiewulf: John Buck 41: What a beautiful plane. I've read they were a biatch to fly, though.No fighter aircraft that's designed to be the smallest and lightest structure possible behind a 1500hp engine is going to be easy to fly, but actually the 51s were comparatively docile except when the fuel tank they added behind the pilot for Berlin range was full. With that full the CG was a lot farther aft than you'd prefer, as they say CG too far forward the plane doesn't fly well, too far aft and it may never fly again- makes the plane really unstable in the pitch axis. It also had some nasty departure characteristics, but again all WW2 fighters did... get them too slow, hanging on prop at high throttle and they're going to depart into some kind of snap roll into a spin ugliness.
vossiewulf: Lt. Cheese Weasel: /all you dodgy Spitfire and Hurricaners, come at me bro.All you need:Spitfire Mk.IX and P-51D with basically the exact same engine, one a Rolls built Merlin 63, other a Packard built V1650...Spit:Power loading: ~4.7lbs/hpRange: to the corner druggistTop speed: 403mphP-51D:Power loading: ~7lbs/hpRange: Berlin and back with a stop in ParisTop speed: 437mphSorry Spit boys, only thing yours could do better was turning circles.
vossiewulf: Marcus Aurelius: [dad.incomingwormhole.com image 696x510]My favorite P-51 pilot, Col. Bruce Carr, I was lucky enough to meet him and hear him tell his story in person before he passed away. Was still flying 51s into his 80s.Only man to ever take off on a mission in a P-51 and land in a stolen FW-190.[www.aviationartstore.com image 850x574]
Lava Lamp Repairman: Goddamn that was nice - thanks, subbie. The P-51 was an amazing aircraft for it's time, and I've been lucky enough to see one flyby in person more than once.But I'll take a P-38 Lightning any day. Imagine two (almost as awesome) engines screaming by at an equivalent speed. I've only seen one flyby of a P-38 and it was indescribable. It had to be the most bad-ass aircraft of WWII.
relaxitsjustme: cameroncrazy1984: cgraves67: timujin: Hard to hear it over the sound from the propeller. I'd love to hear it out of the plane, though. I wonder if anyone ever stuck one of those in a ground vehicle...It's been shoe-horned into hot rods before, I believe.Here's one of themMy understanding is the Unlimited Hydroplanes used to use old airplane engines back when they were called Thunderboats. Then they all switched to turbine engines and the nickname Whinyboats didn't catch on.
Jammybee: Speaking of which where would the Mustangs fly from if the Spits hadn't won the Battle of Britain?
timujin: Hard to hear it over the sound from the propeller. I'd love to hear it out of the plane, though. I wonder if anyone ever stuck one of those in a ground vehicle...
nonstopcrunchy: timujin: Hard to hear it over the sound from the propeller. I'd love to hear it out of the plane, though. I wonder if anyone ever stuck one of those in a ground vehicle...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4XTZcfEKr4 will answer that. The Meteor was the tank version of the merlin, sans supercharger.
Allen262: the Soviets loved them
Lsherm: It may not sound the sexiest, but the P-38 was one of the prettiest planes out of WWII:
change1211: I always thought it was the F4U, it was so ugly it just scared the enemy away.
prjindigo: Lsherm: It may not sound the sexiest, but the P-38 was one of the prettiest planes out of WWII:[img.fark.net image 850x564]I gotta go with this, don't forget the Hyde to this Jekyll[upload.wikimedia.org image 786x600]Both were beautiful aircraft.But for sound I gotta go with the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBMsdXGOm5A R4360If you've got a good sub you'll understand. You can FEEL that it is just sitting there doing nothing.
Lsherm: It may not sound the sexiest, but the P-38 was one of the prettiest planes out of WWII:[img708.imageshack.us image 850x564]
RocketRod: P-51... Cadillac of the Sky!
fatbear: Interesting - video says Rolls Royce Merlin, subby says Packard Merlin - I'm pretty sure subby got it right.
change1211: Lt. Cheese Weasel: The P-51 Mustang won the war. Let's argue about that. Because it did./all you dodgy Spitfire and Hurricaners, come at me bro.I always thought it was the F4U, it was so ugly it just scared the enemy away.
BEER_ME_in_CT: Thats my favorite plane you're badmouthing there buddy LOL. p51 is a close second
Marcus Aurelius: At the end of WWII, the United States was no longer painting their P-51 Mustangs. Instead they were polished to a highly reflective shine, that would reflect light from any angle.Let that sink in for a moment.Then duck.
vossiewulf: Allen262: the Soviets loved themYeah they handled well, had a big-ass gun, all of them had radios, and the air war in the east was all tactical and low altitude.But the Yak-3 was the best thing the Russians flew. The French Normandie squadron were allowed to take them home after the war and as I recall they weren't retired from French service until the early '50s. Totally kick-butt low altitude kurvenkampfers.[www.flugzeuginfo.net image 850x564]
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