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2013-10-31 03:47:06 PM
bunkhousetales.com
 
2013-10-31 03:51:48 PM
Kind of too late for the people Syria killed with chemicals.
 
2013-10-31 03:52:55 PM

skinink: Kind of too late for the people Syria killed with chemicals.


At least they can go back to killing each other with regular weapons.
 
2013-10-31 03:54:05 PM
there is nothing cool about the satanic UN!
 
2013-10-31 03:59:21 PM

Slaxl: skinink: Kind of too late for the people Syria killed with chemicals.

At least they can go back to killing each other with regular weapons.


They resumed months ago doing that. But what I have learned is killing one person with a chemical weapon is worse than killing 200,000 people with conventional weapons.
 
2013-10-31 04:00:55 PM
THANKS OBAMA
 
2013-10-31 04:02:43 PM
Notice the key differences from the magement of Iraq:

1) There actually were weapons
2) A plan has been put in place to destroy the weapons and it's working (so far)
3) We're not involved in another unwinnable occupation of an unstable country.
 
2013-10-31 04:03:24 PM

skinink: Kind of too late for the people Syrian Rebels killed with chemicals.


FTFY
 
2013-10-31 04:15:16 PM

drwiki: Notice the key differences from the magement of Iraq:

1) There actually were weapons
2) A plan has been put in place to destroy the weapons and it's working (so far)
3) We're not involved in another unwinnable occupation of an unstable country.


I seem to remember the other side making similar arguments about Iraq.  As it so happens, there weren't weapons, but what they predicted as a workable plan seems to have failed.

Good to see that Obama really isn't any different than Bush.  And that Congress is consistently ball-less again.
 
2013-10-31 04:16:20 PM

drwiki: Notice the key differences from the magement of Iraq:

1) There actually were weapons
2) A plan has been put in place to destroy the weapons and it's working (so far)
3) We're not involved in another unwinnable occupation of an unstable country.


Yeah but did we see Obama fly in a jet onto an aircraft carrier in a flight suit, ID4 style with a "Mission Accomplished" banner? No? Then Fark you!
 
2013-10-31 04:24:21 PM

drwiki: Notice the key differences from the magement of Iraq:

1) There actually were weapons
2) A plan has been put in place to destroy the weapons and it's working (so far)
3) We're not involved in another unwinnable occupation of an unstable country.


THANKS OBAMA
 
2013-10-31 04:25:23 PM

ronaprhys: drwiki: Notice the key differences from the magement of Iraq:

1) There actually were weapons
2) A plan has been put in place to destroy the weapons and it's working (so far)
3) We're not involved in another unwinnable occupation of an unstable country.

I seem to remember the other side making similar arguments about Iraq.  As it so happens, there weren't weapons, but what they predicted as a workable plan seems to have failed.

Good to see that Obama really isn't any different than Bush.  And that Congress is consistently ball-less again.


Does this make sense to anybody?

ANYBODY?
 
2013-10-31 04:26:48 PM

ronaprhys: Good to see that Obama really isn't any different than Bush.


If Bush were in office, we'd be balls deep in Syria more than a year ago.
 
2013-10-31 04:32:08 PM

mediablitz: Does this make sense to anybody?

ANYBODY?


Well, if you're defending your Messiah, of course it won't make sense.  But if you're a realist and not a slave to a party, then it makes sense.  They aren't any different.  Both have trampled on freedoms, sustained/launched attacks on sovereign nations, run up the national debt to unheard of levels, did dick-all to stop recessions, etc. 

Mugato: ronaprhys: Good to see that Obama really isn't any different than Bush.

If Bush were in office, we'd be balls deep in Syria more than a year ago.


Maybe - but then bunches more people might actually be alive rather than dead due to the POTUS' inaction.
 
2013-10-31 04:36:48 PM

drwiki: Notice the key differences from the magement of Iraq:

1) There actually were weapons
2) A plan has been put in place to destroy the weapons and it's working (so far)
3) We're not involved in another unwinnable occupation of an unstable country.

4) We didn't get to kill anybody with our awesome weapons.

What is this "Peaceful" shiat? We're not in the business of making the world a better place or leaving people alone or winning wars or any of that crap. We are here to selectively profit from disasters, encouraging them when necessary. Get with the program.
 
2013-10-31 04:42:56 PM

ronaprhys: mediablitz: Does this make sense to anybody?

ANYBODY?

Well, if you're defending your Messiah, of course it won't make sense.  But if you're a realist and not a slave to a party, then it makes sense.  They aren't any different.  Both have trampled on freedoms, sustained/launched attacks on sovereign nations, run up the national debt to unheard of levels, did dick-all to stop recessions, etc. 

Mugato: ronaprhys: Good to see that Obama really isn't any different than Bush.

If Bush were in office, we'd be balls deep in Syria more than a year ago.

Maybe - but then bunches more people might actually be alive rather than dead due to the POTUS' inaction.


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2013-10-31 04:44:09 PM

ronaprhys: Well, if you're defending your Messiah, of course it won't make sense. But if you're a realist and not a slave to a party, then it makes sense. They aren't any different.


Oh. You're one of THOSE people....

Yes, not invading a country is EXACTLY the same as invading a country. Captain Above it All just told us!
 
2013-10-31 04:47:14 PM
FAIL

The UN has destroyed Syria's declared productive capacity, not their stockpiles. That still leaves Assad with plenty of weed killer for the length of the war.
 
2013-10-31 04:48:05 PM

mediablitz: ronaprhys: Well, if you're defending your Messiah, of course it won't make sense. But if you're a realist and not a slave to a party, then it makes sense. They aren't any different.

Oh. You're one of THOSE people....

Yes, not invading a country is EXACTLY the same as invading a country. Captain Above it All just told us!


Look - I'm not the one defending a warmonger.  You are.

I think this tells us all we need to know, eh?
 
2013-10-31 04:50:32 PM

ronaprhys: mediablitz: ronaprhys: Well, if you're defending your Messiah, of course it won't make sense. But if you're a realist and not a slave to a party, then it makes sense. They aren't any different.

Oh. You're one of THOSE people....

Yes, not invading a country is EXACTLY the same as invading a country. Captain Above it All just told us!

Look - I'm not the one defending a warmonger.  You are.

I think this tells us all we need to know, eh?


Pointing out we managed to solve an issue without invading a country means I'm supporting a war monger.

Logic isn't your friend. Myopic views are.
 
2013-10-31 04:51:09 PM

ShonenBat: FAIL

The UN has destroyed Syria's declared productive capacity, not their stockpiles. That still leaves Assad with plenty of weed killer for the length of the war.


I realize it's just to much to ask that people RTFA. It's FARK, after all...
 
2013-10-31 04:55:37 PM

mediablitz: Pointing out we managed to solve an issue without invading a country means I'm supporting a war monger.

Logic isn't your friend. Myopic views are.


Just because we didn't invade here doesn't mean that Obama isn't a warmonger.  Speaking of logic failing to be someone's friend, have you looked at the mote in your own eye?
 
2013-10-31 04:55:45 PM

drwiki: Notice the key differences from the magement of Iraq:

1) There actually were weapons
2) A plan has been put in place to destroy the weapons and it's working (so far)
3) We're not involved in another unwinnable occupation of an unstable country.


Things get done when the Russians step in.
 
2013-10-31 05:02:49 PM

Mugato: ronaprhys: Good to see that Obama really isn't any different than Bush.

If Bush were in office, we'd be balls deep in Syria more than a year ago.


If Obama was in office during 9/11 we'd all be praying to Meccah  on a daily basis.

Speculation, how does it work?
 
2013-10-31 05:06:06 PM
Israeli airstrikes begin in Syria now.

Is this where Dark Helmet yells "FOOLED YOU!!!"? Because honestly, this could become a headache next time we try to talk a country into disarming to avoid military hellfire.
 
2013-10-31 05:11:10 PM
bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark...
 
2013-10-31 05:14:22 PM

jaybeezey: ronaprhys: Maybe - but then bunches more people might actually be alive rather than dead due to the POTUS' inaction.


Jesus, do you really think that invading yet another country would have saved more lives?

If Obama was in office during 9/11 we'd all be praying to Meccah  on a daily basis.

Speculation, how does it work?


Do you really think that Obama would have invaded Iraq for no reason? He did support the invasion of Afghanistan but look how he handled Syria. Do you really think the hundreds of thousands killed in Iraq would have happened under Obama?
 
2013-10-31 05:18:07 PM
Is there a reason we couldn't use one of the Army's fancy gasifiers to turn that already mixed crap into syngas? Those are supposed to burn everything and anything and turn it into fuel right?
 
2013-10-31 05:29:49 PM
In furtherance of this discussion, I'll leave this here.

September 16, 2002 - Iraq agrees unconditionally to the return of inspectors.

September 19, 2002 - Iraqi Foreign Minister Naji Sabri delivers a letter to the U.N. from Saddam Hussein stating that Iraq has no chemical, nuclear or biological weapons.

October 1, 2002 - The U.N. and Iraq agree on terms they say are consistent with existing U.N. resolutions. The U.S. threatens to veto unless a U.S. resolution is approved that would allow military action for non-compliance by Iraq.

November 27, 2002 - Inspections resume in Iraq.

February 5, 2003 - Secretary of State Colin Powell briefs the U.N. Security Council on inspections. He presents evidence that the U.S. says proves Iraq has misled inspectors and hid proscribed weapons and equipment.

February 14, 2003 - Blix and ElBaradei brief the U.N. Security Council. Blix reports that the inspectors have not yet found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Blix also reports that Iraq is in violation of U.N. resolutions concerning its al Samoud 2 missile program.

February 19, 2003 - Inspectors visit the Ibn al Haytham factory northwest of Baghdad and tag 32 al Samoud II missiles.

February 27, 2003 - Iraq agrees to destroy the country's al Samoud II missile stock. However, the letter doesn't specify a date that the missile destruction will begin.

March 18, 2003 - Inspectors withdraw from Iraq.

March 20, 2003 - (local time) U.S. and coalition forces begin military action against Iraq.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/30/world/meast/iraq-weapons-inspections-f as t-facts/

Yea, Bush and Obama are totally the same.
 
2013-10-31 05:31:17 PM

ronaprhys: mediablitz: Pointing out we managed to solve an issue without invading a country means I'm supporting a war monger.

Logic isn't your friend. Myopic views are.

Just because we didn't invade here doesn't mean that Obama isn't a warmonger.  Speaking of logic failing to be someone's friend, have you looked at the mote in your own eye?


Did you notice what THIS story was about? Did you notice I was commenting on THIS story?

I imagine you stick your tongue out and say "nyah nyah" when presented with simple facts.

Rage on!!!
 
2013-10-31 05:33:29 PM

mediablitz: ronaprhys: mediablitz: Pointing out we managed to solve an issue without invading a country means I'm supporting a war monger.

Logic isn't your friend. Myopic views are.

Just because we didn't invade here doesn't mean that Obama isn't a warmonger.  Speaking of logic failing to be someone's friend, have you looked at the mote in your own eye?

Did you notice what THIS story was about? Did you notice I was commenting on THIS story?

I imagine you stick your tongue out and say "nyah nyah" when presented with simple facts.

Rage on!!!


Hook, line, and sinker.
 
2013-10-31 05:36:27 PM

Tman144: Yea, Bush and Obama are totally the same.


Presidents really don't have as much power as you think.

Military industrial complex wants wars, naturally. But the key difference is the public supported the Iraq invasion, and that debacle apparently made them a little skeptical of this.

/counting the days until some kind of shady attack on US soil tenuously linked to Syria or Iran in order to rally public support again
//psychopaths are so predictable
 
2013-10-31 05:40:39 PM

ronaprhys: mediablitz: Pointing out we managed to solve an issue without invading a country means I'm supporting a war monger.

Logic isn't your friend. Myopic views are.

Just because we didn't invade here doesn't mean that Obama isn't a warmonger.  Speaking of logic failing to be someone's friend, have you looked at the mote in your own eye?


Remember folks: Negotiating a deal that prevents Americans going to war again makes you are war monger.

That's hard-core ronaprhys logic getting thrown atcha right thar!

Drop that mic!
 
2013-10-31 05:41:18 PM

ronaprhys: mediablitz: ronaprhys: mediablitz: Pointing out we managed to solve an issue without invading a country means I'm supporting a war monger.

Logic isn't your friend. Myopic views are.

Just because we didn't invade here doesn't mean that Obama isn't a warmonger.  Speaking of logic failing to be someone's friend, have you looked at the mote in your own eye?

Did you notice what THIS story was about? Did you notice I was commenting on THIS story?

I imagine you stick your tongue out and say "nyah nyah" when presented with simple facts.

Rage on!!!

Hook, line, and sinker.


Ah. Now it's "Ima trollin'!". Well aren't you all adult and shiat!
 
2013-10-31 05:41:37 PM
Does anyone here seriously believe Syria has destroyed its CW stockpile just because the UN says it has?
 
2013-10-31 05:47:59 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Presidents really don't have as much power as you think.


They actually kind of do. Bush had a 90%+ approval rating after 9/11. He intimated that Iraq had something to do with it and everyone was foaming at the mouth to invade Iraq. There's the congress and the senate and all that separation of powers horseshiat but don't fool yourself.
 
2013-10-31 05:51:49 PM

Mouser: Does anyone here seriously believe Syria has destroyed its CW stockpile just because the UN says it has?


Didn't read the story, didya? No one is claimaing their stockpile was destroyed.

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2013-10-31 05:59:21 PM

mediablitz: ronaprhys: mediablitz: ronaprhys: mediablitz: Pointing out we managed to solve an issue without invading a country means I'm supporting a war monger.

Logic isn't your friend. Myopic views are.

Just because we didn't invade here doesn't mean that Obama isn't a warmonger.  Speaking of logic failing to be someone's friend, have you looked at the mote in your own eye?

Did you notice what THIS story was about? Did you notice I was commenting on THIS story?

I imagine you stick your tongue out and say "nyah nyah" when presented with simple facts.

Rage on!!!

Hook, line, and sinker.

Ah. Now it's "Ima trollin'!". Well aren't you all adult and shiat!


The goal of trolling is, as I recall, to get folks going.  To do so well, one has to walk the line between over the top but just believable enough to get a few bites.  Then, to keep it going, you just string them along.

You got played, son.  Played hard.

Which is good for me, because I've been off my game for some time now.  Maybe this spells new success?  I mean, I'll never get to Bongo Boy or Czar status - but if I can be more successful than not, at least I've got that going for me.
 
2013-10-31 06:07:43 PM

Mugato: They actually kind of do. Bush had a 90%+ approval rating after 9/11. He intimated that Iraq had something to do with it and everyone was foaming at the mouth to invade Iraq. There's the congress and the senate and all that separation of powers horseshiat but don't fool yourself.


As talking heads, sure. Just saying it's really not so simple that the president can just do what he wants. He has to balance what corporations want and what the public wants. So you've got corporations manipulating public opinion so they want the same things.

And this time all the people in congress pushing to invade Syria stood to make large profits from their investments in related military corporations. You're just lucky they all weren't invested. And even then, they would be risking riots if the public didn't agree.

All that is the real game being played. Any selective concern about civil rights issues in counties they coincidentally have been planning to invade for years should be pretty transparent.
 
2013-10-31 06:11:44 PM

mediablitz: ronaprhys: drwiki: Notice the key differences from the magement of Iraq:

1) There actually were weapons
2) A plan has been put in place to destroy the weapons and it's working (so far)
3) We're not involved in another unwinnable occupation of an unstable country.

I seem to remember the other side making similar arguments about Iraq.  As it so happens, there weren't weapons, but what they predicted as a workable plan seems to have failed.

Good to see that Obama really isn't any different than Bush.  And that Congress is consistently ball-less again.

Does this make sense to anybody?

ANYBODY?


Nah, it's either a troll or a fool. Nobody takes that much of a 180 without either drinking the kool aid or trying to get a rise from others using inciting invective.
 
2013-10-31 06:24:01 PM

ronaprhys: mediablitz: Does this make sense to anybody?

ANYBODY?

Well, if you're defending your Messiah, of course it won't make sense.  But if you're a realist and not a slave to a party, then it makes sense.  They aren't any different.  Both have trampled on freedoms, sustained/launched attacks on sovereign nations, run up the national debt to unheard of levels, did dick-all to stop recessions, etc. 

Mugato: ronaprhys: Good to see that Obama really isn't any different than Bush.

If Bush were in office, we'd be balls deep in Syria more than a year ago.

Maybe - but then bunches more people might actually be alive rather than dead due to the POTUS' inaction.


Why didn't I have you on ignore long ago?
 
2013-10-31 06:47:11 PM

Smackledorfer: ronaprhys: mediablitz: Does this make sense to anybody?

ANYBODY?

Well, if you're defending your Messiah, of course it won't make sense.  But if you're a realist and not a slave to a party, then it makes sense.  They aren't any different.  Both have trampled on freedoms, sustained/launched attacks on sovereign nations, run up the national debt to unheard of levels, did dick-all to stop recessions, etc. 

Mugato: ronaprhys: Good to see that Obama really isn't any different than Bush.

If Bush were in office, we'd be balls deep in Syria more than a year ago.

Maybe - but then bunches more people might actually be alive rather than dead due to the POTUS' inaction.

Why didn't I have you on ignore long ago?


Because I'm mostly a goofy troll when I bother.  Plus, I've not been all that active for the last year or so.
 
2013-10-31 07:04:39 PM
Hey subby, fact check your headlines. The OPCW is not part of the UN.
http://www.opcw.org/about-opcw/un-opcw-relationship/

They have a relationship in which the UN recognizes it as an independent organization.
Multilateral organization =/= UN body.
 
2013-10-31 07:17:46 PM

flynn80: skinink: Kind of too late for the people Syrian Rebels killed with chemicals.

FTFY


Didn't we execute you, Bahgdad Bob?
 
2013-10-31 10:38:36 PM

Mouser: Does anyone here seriously believe Syria has destroyed its CW stockpile just because the UN says it has?


Sure. I do.

But since nerve agents are nothing more than high-speed insecticide, it really makes no difference. What matters is that Assad allowed the inspectors to make sure he really abided by the deal he signed. Which, evidently, he did.
 
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