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(CNN)   Hope & Change has been replaced with Fear & Intimidation. Close enough   (cnn.com) divider line 174
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2013-10-31 11:25:09 AM
NSA wire tapping, fast and furious scandals, corruption in the Justice department and THIS is what CNN has a problem with?

/somebody must be paying good money for these stories
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-31 11:27:20 AM

Voiceofreason01: NSA wire tapping, fast and furious scandals, corruption in the Justice department and THIS is what CNN has a problem with?


I guess they outbid you?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-31 11:30:49 AM
So, how elected is Obama going to punish them for speaking and why doesn't he do it to people like Ted Cruz?

Is this one of those FEMA re-education camp type conspiracies?


i liked this part:
"One of the things I think is clear here is the Obama administration has no trust in anything the health insurance industry is telling them about how to run a health plan,"

Good, that's why we elected him.
 
2013-10-31 11:44:15 AM
Obama and the insurance industry negotiated over their resistance to Obamacare. The insurance industry agreed not to be critical in exchange for no government health plan.

Obama's just reminding them of the deal.
 
2013-10-31 11:51:26 AM
Troll headline + bullsh*t yellow article = instagreen, because f*ck you, that's why.
 
2013-10-31 11:55:36 AM
Instead of intimidating the insurance industry to protect Obamacare, can we intimidate them by pushing for single-payer?
 
2013-10-31 12:14:00 PM

kbronsito: Instead of intimidating the insurance industry to protect Obamacare, can we intimidate them by pushing for single-payer?


Yes.
 
2013-10-31 12:15:33 PM
'Fear and Intimidation' - isn't that the boogeymen that the Republicans have been running with since 9/11?

ZOMG! The brown terrorists are coming! Only 'WE' can keep your kids safe....
 
2013-10-31 12:18:18 PM

Slives: 'Fear and Intimidation' - isn't that the boogeymen that the Republicans have been running with since 9/11?

ZOMG! The brown terrorists are coming! Only 'WE' can keep your kids safe....


Remember how in 2008 an 2012 they tried to get us to vote for the GOP nomination by saying there WILL be another terrorist attack if Obama was elected president? Good times.
 
2013-10-31 12:24:26 PM
Obama is an empty suit. He's never had a real job. He is AWOL.

Obama is running a Chicago style Black Muslim Athiest mafia which is systematically destroying America.

Which is it?
 
2013-10-31 12:25:33 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Troll headline + bullsh*t yellow article = instagreen, because f*ck you, that's why.


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/Anyone have any idea how we can rephrase the discussion we were having to make it closer to the topic at hand?
 
2013-10-31 12:29:21 PM

vernonFL: Obama is an empty suit. He's never had a real job. He is AWOL.

Obama is running a Chicago style Black Muslim Athiest mafia which is systematically destroying America.

Which is it?


Why not both?
 
2013-10-31 12:29:44 PM

vpb: "One of the things I think is clear here is the Obama administration has no trust in anything the health insurance industry is telling them about how to run a health plan,"

Good, that's why we elected him.


Because if there's one person that I'm going to ask about my insurance, it's a community organizer.
 
2013-10-31 12:29:52 PM
FTFA:

"White House officials have pressured insurance industry executives to keep quiet amid mounting criticism over Obamacare's rollout, insurance industry sources told CNN. "

Translation:One guy with an axe to grind and a history of being critical of the ACA told us that White House staff told him to be quiet, and we just ran with it, because that way we get more outrage clicks.
 
2013-10-31 12:30:16 PM

cman: The RIchest Man in Babylon: Troll headline + bullsh*t yellow article = instagreen, because f*ck you, that's why.

Welcometofark.jpg

/Anyone have any idea how we can rephrase the discussion we were having to make it closer to the topic at hand?


Tell you what I'd like to see- instead of stupid sniping from anonymous sources how about a discussion on ways to improve the law that are actually plausible right now (ie- not scrap it, and not single payer).
 
2013-10-31 12:31:50 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: vpb: "One of the things I think is clear here is the Obama administration has no trust in anything the health insurance industry is telling them about how to run a health plan,"

Good, that's why we elected him.

Because if there's one person that I'm going to ask about my insurance, it's a community organizer.


Do people still refer to you by the job title you had 20 years ago?
 
2013-10-31 12:31:55 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: vpb: "One of the things I think is clear here is the Obama administration has no trust in anything the health insurance industry is telling them about how to run a health plan,"

Good, that's why we elected him.

Because if there's one person that I'm going to ask about my insurance, it's a community organizer.


Actually that would be a good person to talk to.  Part of what community organizer's do is to help people work through the system so they can improve their situation.
 
2013-10-31 12:36:02 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Dancin_In_Anson: vpb: "One of the things I think is clear here is the Obama administration has no trust in anything the health insurance industry is telling them about how to run a health plan,"

Good, that's why we elected him.

Because if there's one person that I'm going to ask about my insurance, it's a community organizer.

Do people still refer to you by the job title you had 20 years ago?


I still refer to GW Bush as a coke addled alcoholic loser who couldnt even make it in the oil business.
 
2013-10-31 12:37:32 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Do people still refer to you by the job title you had 20 years ago


I've been on the same job almost 20 years, so yeah.

James!: Actually that would be a good person to talk to. Part of what community organizer's do is to help people work through the system so they can improve their situation.


You still clap for Tinkerbell every time you watch Peter Pan, don't you?
 
2013-10-31 12:39:08 PM
But Bob Laszewski, who heads a consulting firm for big insurance companies, did talk on the record.

He'd better hope his tax records are in apple-pie order.
 
2013-10-31 12:39:16 PM

vernonFL: I still refer to GW Bush as a coke addled alcoholic loser who couldnt even make it in the oil business.


So another yes.

Bad analogy there cam.
 
2013-10-31 12:40:45 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: You still clap for Tinkerbell every time you watch Peter Pan, don't you?


Weird response.  I suppose you wouldn't just admit that you have no idea what a community organizer does.
 
2013-10-31 12:41:38 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: vernonFL: I still refer to GW Bush as a coke addled alcoholic loser who couldnt even make it in the oil business.

So another yes.

Bad analogy there cam.


So then Eisenhower was just a junior grade officer in the US Army then.
 
2013-10-31 12:42:24 PM

oh_please: But Bob Laszewski, who heads a consulting firm for big insurance companies, did talk on the record.

He'd better hope his tax records are in apple-pie order.


Obama is gonna send his IRS Black panther goon squad thugs after him!
 
2013-10-31 12:44:02 PM

vernonFL: Obama is an empty suit. He's never had a real job. He is AWOL.

Obama is running a Chicago style Black Muslim Athiest mafia which is systematically destroying America.

Which is it?


I use to maintain this list during his first term:

-foreign
-muslim
-elitist
-terrorist sympathizer
-terrorist
-socialist
-economist
-empty suit
-incompetent
-puppet
-anti-semite
-racist
-Uncle Tom
-inexperienced
-corrupt
-naive
-dishonest
-confused
-brash
-rude
-overconfident
-arrogant
-retarded
-delusional
-"that one"
-messiah
-teleprompter user
-trying to do too much
-not trying to do enough
-mean spirited
-lost boy
-unpatriotic
-great divider
-baby
-gay
-Radical
-Communist
-Fascist
-Anti American
 
2013-10-31 12:44:54 PM
I really like the word "then," apparently.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-31 12:47:18 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Because if there's one person that I'm going to ask about my insurance, it's a community organizer.


Would you rather ask an insurance executive?

freakoutnation.com
 
2013-10-31 12:47:32 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Dancin_In_Anson: vernonFL: I still refer to GW Bush as a coke addled alcoholic loser who couldnt even make it in the oil business.

So another yes.

Bad analogy there cam.

So then Eisenhower was just a junior grade officer in the US Army then.


Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer.

Ronald Reagan, an actor.

Look at George Washington, even. All he ever did was run a plantation that he inherited. Hell, he even had slaves do all the work.
 
2013-10-31 12:49:18 PM

vernonFL: cameroncrazy1984: Dancin_In_Anson: vernonFL: I still refer to GW Bush as a coke addled alcoholic loser who couldnt even make it in the oil business.

So another yes.

Bad analogy there cam.

So then Eisenhower was just a junior grade officer in the US Army then.

Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer.

Ronald Reagan, an actor.

Look at George Washington, even. All he ever did was run a plantation that he inherited. Hell, he even had slaves do all the work.


When I want to know how to keep a country together and prosecute a civil war, I just ask an uneducated, failed lawyer and businessman who couldn't even get elected to the House.
 
2013-10-31 12:52:52 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: vpb: "One of the things I think is clear here is the Obama administration has no trust in anything the health insurance industry is telling them about how to run a health plan,"

Good, that's why we elected him.

Because if there's one person that I'm going to ask about my insurance, it's a community organizer.


Because Obama has no staff or consultants who may be experts. He has the White House all to himself.
 
2013-10-31 12:53:41 PM

cameroncrazy1984: vernonFL: cameroncrazy1984: Dancin_In_Anson: vernonFL: I still refer to GW Bush as a coke addled alcoholic loser who couldnt even make it in the oil business.

So another yes.

Bad analogy there cam.

So then Eisenhower was just a junior grade officer in the US Army then.

Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer.

Ronald Reagan, an actor.

Look at George Washington, even. All he ever did was run a plantation that he inherited. Hell, he even had slaves do all the work.

When I want to know how to keep a country together and prosecute a civil war, I just ask an uneducated, failed lawyer and businessman who couldn't even get elected to the House.




Lincoln wasn't a failed lawyer. He was quite good at it.
 
2013-10-31 12:54:12 PM
CSB: My application to become a FEMA reeducation camp guard in Texas was just approved!!! Opens on January 1st. I'm excited.
 
2013-10-31 12:56:15 PM
the main question is this: why a vocal critic of Obmacare, who is only a consultant, biatching and no one else prominent?

And why is this guy getting press?
 
2013-10-31 12:58:55 PM

Darth_Lukecash: the main question is this: why a vocal critic of Obmacare, who is only a consultant, biatching and no one else prominent?

And why is this guy getting press?


CNN fails at journalism.
 
2013-10-31 12:59:04 PM

Darth_Lukecash: the main question is this: why a vocal critic of Obmacare, who is only a consultant, biatching and no one else prominent?

And why is this guy getting press?


Because OUTRAAAAGE means money.

The media is pretty much just about trolling for clicks these days. Manufactured crises are a license to print money.
 
2013-10-31 01:00:46 PM
Laszewski, who's been a vocal critic of Obamacare, said he's been asked by insurance executives to speak out because they feel defenseless against an administration that is regulating their business -- and a big customer.

Gee, bias much?
 
2013-10-31 01:03:09 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: vpb: "One of the things I think is clear here is the Obama administration has no trust in anything the health insurance industry is telling them about how to run a health plan,"

Good, that's why we elected him.

Because if there's one person that I'm going to ask about my insurance, it's a community organizer.


Right. Because discussing a plan with someone who is trying to sell you that selfsame plan will surely work out without any distortions in the discourse.
 
2013-10-31 01:06:43 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Laszewski, who's been a vocal critic of Obamacare, said he's been asked by insurance executives to speak out because they feel defenseless against an administration that is regulating their business -- and a big customer.

Gee, bias much?


This just in: insurance companies don't like the fact that they might actually have to provide healthcare with their health insurance plans.
 
2013-10-31 01:10:30 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: cameroncrazy1984: Do people still refer to you by the job title you had 20 years ago

I've been on the same job almost 20 years, so yeah.

James!: Actually that would be a good person to talk to. Part of what community organizer's do is to help people work through the system so they can improve their situation.

You still clap for Tinkerbell every time you watch Peter Pan, don't you?


Oddly enough, your attempt here to ridicule him as childish leaves you just as open to accusations of childishness.
 
2013-10-31 01:13:14 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: cman: The RIchest Man in Babylon: Troll headline + bullsh*t yellow article = instagreen, because f*ck you, that's why.

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/Anyone have any idea how we can rephrase the discussion we were having to make it closer to the topic at hand?

Tell you what I'd like to see- instead of stupid sniping from anonymous sources how about a discussion on ways to improve the law that are actually plausible right now (ie- not scrap it, and not single payer).


What do you have against single payer?
 
2013-10-31 01:13:39 PM
Our medical device company is chocking their slow results in FY2013  up to "uncertainty" over Obamacare.  These titans of industry sure do whine a lot.
 
2013-10-31 01:22:27 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Dancin_In_Anson: vernonFL: I still refer to GW Bush as a coke addled alcoholic loser who couldnt even make it in the oil business.

So another yes.

Bad analogy there cam.

So then Eisenhower was just a junior grade officer in the US Army then.


If we look at what they were doing 20 years ago, Eisenhower would be referred to as dead.

/Best kind of correct
 
2013-10-31 01:23:34 PM

dr_blasto: The RIchest Man in Babylon: cman: The RIchest Man in Babylon: Troll headline + bullsh*t yellow article = instagreen, because f*ck you, that's why.

Welcometofark.jpg

/Anyone have any idea how we can rephrase the discussion we were having to make it closer to the topic at hand?

Tell you what I'd like to see- instead of stupid sniping from anonymous sources how about a discussion on ways to improve the law that are actually plausible right now (ie- not scrap it, and not single payer).

What do you have against single payer?


Oh, nothing at all- I'd prefer it.  I also recognize that it isn't politically possible right now between complete GOP apoplexy and squishy bluedogs.
 
2013-10-31 01:23:57 PM
None of this can be true.
Since later Obama will tell us that he did not know about any of this. (or anything else)
 
2013-10-31 01:26:37 PM

chiett: None of this can be true.
Since later Obama will tell us that he did not know about any of this. (or anything else)


Look, if you're gonna come with trolling you better step your game up. At least  Dancin_In_Anson had something grounded tenuously in reality.
 
2013-10-31 01:28:33 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: dr_blasto: The RIchest Man in Babylon: cman: The RIchest Man in Babylon: Troll headline + bullsh*t yellow article = instagreen, because f*ck you, that's why.

Welcometofark.jpg

/Anyone have any idea how we can rephrase the discussion we were having to make it closer to the topic at hand?

Tell you what I'd like to see- instead of stupid sniping from anonymous sources how about a discussion on ways to improve the law that are actually plausible right now (ie- not scrap it, and not single payer).

What do you have against single payer?

Oh, nothing at all- I'd prefer it.  I also recognize that it isn't politically possible right now between complete GOP apoplexy and squishy bluedogs.


It would have significant support from the good 'ol Chamber of Commerce and therefore their representation in Congress. Individuals support the concepts, I'm certain that it might be a good way to kick the retards out of the House.

Single-payer is better for the economy, better for business large and small, better for individuals, better for the medical community.

Insurance companies would have to move to selling supplemental or enhanced plans, but, who gives a fark about an industry that was in the business of raping the least able to protect themselves for yearsandyearsandyears.

Hell, US-based businesses could better compete on the international stage as they wouldn't have the health insurance burden dragging them down while their European competition pointed and laughed.

Pensions could be a thing again.
 
2013-10-31 01:34:40 PM

dr_blasto: The RIchest Man in Babylon: dr_blasto: The RIchest Man in Babylon: cman: The RIchest Man in Babylon: Troll headline + bullsh*t yellow article = instagreen, because f*ck you, that's why.

Welcometofark.jpg

/Anyone have any idea how we can rephrase the discussion we were having to make it closer to the topic at hand?

Tell you what I'd like to see- instead of stupid sniping from anonymous sources how about a discussion on ways to improve the law that are actually plausible right now (ie- not scrap it, and not single payer).

What do you have against single payer?

Oh, nothing at all- I'd prefer it.  I also recognize that it isn't politically possible right now between complete GOP apoplexy and squishy bluedogs.

It would have significant support from the good 'ol Chamber of Commerce and therefore their representation in Congress. Individuals support the concepts, I'm certain that it might be a good way to kick the retards out of the House.

Single-payer is better for the economy, better for business large and small, better for individuals, better for the medical community.

Insurance companies would have to move to selling supplemental or enhanced plans, but, who gives a fark about an industry that was in the business of raping the least able to protect themselves for yearsandyearsandyears.

Hell, US-based businesses could better compete on the international stage as they wouldn't have the health insurance burden dragging them down while their European competition pointed and laughed.

Pensions could be a thing again.


Dude, you don't have to convince me, I'm already there.

But have you been asleep for the last four years?  Obamacare is a tiny, around the edges bit of marketplace reforms and it's being treated like the end of the world by the right.  It is insane to pretend that something like single payer could get through our broken political system right now.
 
2013-10-31 01:37:45 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Troll headline + bullsh*t yellow article = instagreen, because f*ck you, that's why.


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i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-31 01:38:55 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Troll headline + bullsh*t yellow article = instagreen, because f*ck you, that's why.


Yeah, my reaction as well.
 
2013-10-31 01:41:01 PM
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