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(The Local)   You know that Swiss friend you have? That's right. You don't have one   (thelocal.ch) divider line 57
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2013-10-31 12:55:43 PM  
My Swiss bankers never want to chit-chat.

I'm like "How's your day?"

And they're like, "What is your PIN; what is your account number."
 
2013-10-31 01:26:34 PM  
This can't possibly be right.  Such pieces normally bash the United States because Europe is perfect.
 
2013-10-31 01:30:16 PM  
Well if the first thing you do when you meet one is always compliment them on their cheese making skills, you can see how you get annoying quite quickly.
 
2013-10-31 01:30:23 PM  
I've always felt pretty neutral about the Swiss.
 
2013-10-31 01:31:56 PM  
He ran away with my Canadian girlfriend.
 
2013-10-31 01:33:04 PM  
I have Swiss friends.  They love me, and I love them.

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2013-10-31 01:33:26 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I've always felt pretty neutral about the Swiss.


u18chan.com
 
2013-10-31 01:34:15 PM  
I have a friend who moved to Switzerland a few years ago and he doesn't seem to have had any trouble making friends.

He also thinks the country is pretty awesome in general. I'm very jealous.
 
2013-10-31 01:34:50 PM  
As someone who lived in Switzerland, this is true.  If you are actually interested in more about this try "the Xenophobes guide to the Swiss" (humourous), or "Beyond Chocolate: Understanding Swiss Culture Paperback"byMargaret Oertig-Davidson.  We met the author of the second one once it's a good book for understanding how the Swiss think.

Having said that, the expat community in Switzerland is very friendly we were never want for friends.
 
2013-10-31 01:34:58 PM  
Toblerone is a very annoying shape.

/prefer my chocolate in bar stock form, not rack gear shape
 
2013-10-31 01:35:09 PM  

rkiller1: This can't possibly be right.  Such pieces normally bash the United States because Europe is perfect.


The  EU is perfect.  Switzerland isn't part of that.  Hence, it's bad.
 
2013-10-31 01:38:41 PM  
The Swiss are a rather xenophobic people. Not mean-spirited or overtly racist (usually), they are just not comfortable with people from other countries. But don't worry, they aren't very nice with each other either, that is until they get to know each other.  For years I have been telling my Swiss friends that Switzerland is a fantastic country, marred only by the fact that it is inhabited by the Swiss.

The funny thing (to me) is that those who live or have lived outside of Switzerland tend to agree with me.

/Swiss born through some accident in the family history
//Perhaps surprisingly, I have many Swiss friends
 
2013-10-31 01:42:04 PM  
I dated a girl from Switzerland.


Well, to be fair, she was South African by birth, and had moved there when she was young.
 
2013-10-31 01:43:51 PM  
What about that Swiss Miss I knocked back?
 
2013-10-31 01:43:52 PM  

Trocadero: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I've always felt pretty neutral about the Swiss.

[u18chan.com image 510x390]



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What makes a man turn neutral ... Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
 
2013-10-31 01:46:50 PM  
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2013-10-31 01:49:39 PM  
As a former expat, I wish that was a better study.... it only rates a handful of countries.

I'd love to be an expat in Europe for a year or two - even Switzerland (clean country and their chocolates, watches are nice).

I can put up with them being xenophobic - I don't plan to live there.
 
2013-10-31 01:51:31 PM  
I worked with several Swiss consultants who had daily discussions on how the country was no longer what it used to be with all of the foreigners and were beginning to really hate their country. They wanted to live near the U.S., but did not like the immigrants so they were looking at Canada for their possible future home.

//Mostly, they were just really nice people with quirky personalities.
 
2013-10-31 01:52:33 PM  
The picture of the Swiss Prez on the sidebar was way more interesting than this farking article. He kinda resembles Mr. Ed. Damn now that song is going to be stuck in my head all day!
 
2013-10-31 01:53:58 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: My Swiss bankers never want to chit-chat.

I'm like "How's your day?"

And they're like, "What is your PIN; what is your account number."


And then they call the CIA to let them know you accessed your emergency account.
 
2013-10-31 01:54:00 PM  

rkiller1: This can't possibly be right.  Such pieces normally bash the United States because Europe is perfect.


Switzerland is not part of Europe.
 
2013-10-31 01:54:55 PM  
heaven is where the police are british
the food is italian
the lovers are french
the cars are german
and it's all run by the swiss

hell is where the police are german
the food is british
the lovers are swiss
the cars are french
and it's all run by the italians
 
2013-10-31 01:55:14 PM  
I looked at the survey on just "making friends".  The biggest surprise was that Ireland ranked 33rd out of 37.  I've never met an Irishman/woman who didn't become an instant friend, so that one stood out to me.  The other was that Russia was 3rd out of 37.  I'm thinking most of the people who filled out that survey weren't Jewish or openly gay or Chechen or....yeah, ok, that one's a head-scratcher.
 
2013-10-31 01:56:07 PM  
Having to following local social customs and needing to take a language course are considered negative points by the expats? Or was that merely the interpretation of the writer?
 
2013-10-31 01:56:33 PM  

AMonkey'sUncle: Because People in power are Stupid: My Swiss bankers never want to chit-chat.

I'm like "How's your day?"

And they're like, "What is your PIN; what is your account number."

And then they call the CIA to let them know you accessed your emergency account.


Project Treadstone already knows.
 
2013-10-31 01:58:27 PM  
I lived in Switzerland for roughly two years. The Swiss were generous hosts but they are absolutely paranoid of people overstaying their welcome, especially guest workers, students and tourists.

I had to promise to leave in order to get in.

Some Americans are xenophobic, racist, bigoted and chauvinistic, but in Switzerland, everybody fears invasion by friendly invaders as much and more than enemies. They dislike the people in the next village far more than the rest of the world.

Why? Because they are innately villagers and Canton-dwellers. Their government is highly fair, efficient, and so forth, but it is also highly local. When Lao-tzu said that the Emperor is best when the people do not know he exists, he could have been thinking instead of the Swiss Government. My guess is that the number of Swiss people who can't name the head of government is larger than the 25% of Americans who can't name the President or Vice-President.

I was in Geneva, where Swiss meets French, but I visited other parts of Switzerland where German, Italian or even Romansch is the dominant language and culture.

The Swiss are not insular. They don't live on an island and aren't cut off from the neighbours. But they live in valleys, on mountains--they are cut off from the mountain across the valley. They are something deeper than insular. They are open, often friendly, kindly, generous--but completely and utterly cut off from everybody including each other.

Switzerland may be the only high-functioning autistic country in the world.

THEY HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME MAKING FRIENDS WITH EACH OTHER. And yet they are really big in the hotel industry, in charity, in political internationalism, and so forth. They do what they do well and with all their heart, like good Calvinists should. Like bad Calvinists, however, they are the Elect and you are not.

Crazier by far than the Japanese or the English, they are!
 
2013-10-31 02:03:41 PM  

The Third Man: I looked at the survey on just "making friends".  The biggest surprise was that Ireland ranked 33rd out of 37.  I've never met an Irishman/woman who didn't become an instant friend, so that one stood out to me.  The other was that Russia was 3rd out of 37.  I'm thinking most of the people who filled out that survey weren't Jewish or openly gay or Chechen or....yeah, ok, that one's a head-scratcher.


Russians hate everyone.
 
2013-10-31 02:03:47 PM  
Ever see the original movie version of John Wyndham's novel on the Midwich Cuckoos, aka Village of the Damned? Well, the Swiss are a lot like those children, only friendlier and better-mannered in appearance but not necessarily when the chips are down.

In much of Europe you can be on friendly and pleasant relations with people for decades but will never receive an invitation to visit them at home or to have dinner. In the UK, such an invitation may be offered at first acquiantance but is not intended as anything more than a polite nothing. The Swiss are beyond even normal Continental Europeans in their standoffishness. As I said, they have a hard time making friends with each other. You have a very feeble hope of being invited into their family circle. They are mountain men. Their chalet is their castle and it is nigh impregnable.
 
2013-10-31 02:07:21 PM  

Trocadero: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I've always felt pretty neutral about the Swiss.

[u18chan.com image 510x390]


If I die, tell my wife I said, "hello."
 
2013-10-31 02:09:15 PM  

brantgoose: They dislike the people in the next village far more than the rest of the world.


===============

Tell me why I know you've never been to the Balkans.

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2013-10-31 02:20:05 PM  
When I was in Switzerland I tried to make friends through music, but they didn't like my song:

Do, a deer, a female deer
biatch, a female dog....
 
2013-10-31 02:21:59 PM  
I hear it is easy to make friends in Somalia. Just sail your boat close to shore and they will come out to welcome you.
 
2013-10-31 02:22:35 PM  
Oh yeah well my best friend is Canadian, so suck it.
 
2013-10-31 02:23:06 PM  

xerge: rkiller1: This can't possibly be right.  Such pieces normally bash the United States because Europe is perfect.

Switzerland is not part of Europe.


It is part of Europe. It is not a part of the EU, but is part of EFTA. It is part of Schengen, and OSCE, but not EUCU or the EEA.
 
2013-10-31 02:23:20 PM  
1/4 Swiss.  Yep.
 
2013-10-31 02:30:11 PM  
Another expat suggests: "Take a language course before you arrive."

Yeah. Viel Glück trying to understand Schweizerdeutsch with your barely passable high German.
 
2013-10-31 02:30:57 PM  

xria: xerge: rkiller1: This can't possibly be right.  Such pieces normally bash the United States because Europe is perfect.

Switzerland is not part of Europe.

It is part of Europe. It is not a part of the EU, but is part of EFTA. It is part of Schengen, and OSCE, but not EUCU or the EEA.


OMFG GTFO WTF BBQ!
 
2013-10-31 02:35:07 PM  

Petit_Merdeux: Another expat suggests: "Take a language course before you arrive."

Yeah. Viel Glück trying to understand Schweizerdeutsch with your barely passable high German.


Yeah, this.  Even Germans have a rough time understanding Schweizerdeutsch.
 
2013-10-31 02:37:10 PM  
It's been years (okay, decades, since we are talking about 1985), but the Swiss were very friendly to me the couple of days I visited Basel.

The French, though...

/No, not just Parisians.
 
2013-10-31 02:42:34 PM  

mongbiohazard: I have a friend who moved to Switzerland a few years ago and he doesn't seem to have had any trouble making friends.

He also thinks the country is pretty awesome in general. I'm very jealous.


The only complaint I've ever heard about the place is that after living there for a while it's incredibly boring. But hey, hop on a train and you're in unboring places pretty quickly.

And from what I understand, the taxes for the average person (at least the income taxes) are lower than in the US.
 
2013-10-31 02:44:37 PM  

pkellmey: I worked with several Swiss consultants who had daily discussions on how the country was no longer what it used to be with all of the foreigners and were beginning to really hate their country. They wanted to live near the U.S., but did not like the immigrants so they were looking at Canada for their possible future home.



Stupid, given that Canada has one of the highest per capita rates of immigration in the world and one in five Canadians wasn't born in Canada.

Fark: wannabe immigrants who won't move somewhere because they don't like the immigrants.


brantgoose: ...Switzerland may be the only high-functioning autistic country in the world.

Best summation I've ever read. I will use this.

 
2013-10-31 02:44:40 PM  

Fissile: brantgoose: They dislike the people in the next village far more than the rest of the world.

===============

Tell me why I know you've never been to the Balkans


I may be wrong, but I think he meant "the Swiss dislike people in the next village far more than the Swiss dislike the rest of the world," rather than "the Swiss dislike people in the next village far more than the rest of the world dislikes people in the next village." To get the second reading, you'd include the verb in the comparison (They dislike the people in the next village far more than does the rest of the world).

But this is only a guess.
 
2013-10-31 02:46:35 PM  

Fissile: brantgoose: They dislike the people in the next village far more than the rest of the world.

===============

Tell me why I know you've never been to the Balkans.


Hey snarky mcsnark, I think brantgoose means the Swiss dislike people in the next village more than they dislike people from the rest of the world. Not the way you interpreted, like they've surpassed the world on neighbor-hate.
 
2013-10-31 02:48:31 PM  

tripleseven: I dated a girl from Switzerland.


Well, to be fair, she was South African by birth, and had moved there when she was young.


Is that common? South Africans moving to Switzerland? I knew a girl, same story. Except I didn't date her.
 
2013-10-31 02:50:44 PM  

The Third Man: I looked at the survey on just "making friends".  The biggest surprise was that Ireland ranked 33rd out of 37.  I've never met an Irishman/woman who didn't become an instant friend, so that one stood out to me.  The other was that Russia was 3rd out of 37.  I'm thinking most of the people who filled out that survey weren't Jewish or openly gay or Chechen or....yeah, ok, that one's a head-scratcher.


Yep. And China was No. 1 on child rearing? Ha. Double ha. Well, actually, in China you're only allowed to have one ha.

I'm skeptical of a lot of this survey's results.
 
2013-10-31 02:53:04 PM  
I believe this: Michelle Bachman carried a Swiss passport and she hates EVERYONE.

/Just channeling Ron Paul.
 
2013-10-31 03:05:43 PM  
Articles like this are the equivalent of saying Switzerland takes a dump in the showers and heels it down the drain. No quality or substance to the writing of them at all.
 
2013-10-31 03:06:48 PM  

brimed03: tripleseven: I dated a girl from Switzerland.


Well, to be fair, she was South African by birth, and had moved there when she was young.

Is that common? South Africans moving to Switzerland? I knew a girl, same story. Except I didn't date her.


Sounds like tripleseven got toknow your girl a lot better than you...
 
2013-10-31 03:12:08 PM  

Fissile: brantgoose: They dislike the people in the next village far more than the rest of the world.

===============

Tell me why I know you've never been to the Balkans.

[images.wikia.com image 600x397]


cdn5.movieclips.com
 
2013-10-31 03:12:56 PM  

capt.hollister: pkellmey: I worked with several Swiss consultants who had daily discussions on how the country was no longer what it used to be with all of the foreigners and were beginning to really hate their country. They wanted to live near the U.S., but did not like the immigrants so they were looking at Canada for their possible future home.


Stupid, given that Canada has one of the highest per capita rates of immigration in the world and one in five Canadians wasn't born in Canada.

Fark: wannabe immigrants who won't move somewhere because they don't like the immigrants.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure he meant to say they didn't like brown/black people.
 
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