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2013-10-31 09:27:29 AM  
So the law grandfathers your crap plan even if it doesn't meet the new standards
But Bubba and John's Fly-by-Night insurance cancels your plan

And somehow you want Obama to force them to keep your plan in place?
 
2013-10-31 09:30:47 AM  
Damn it, mods. You said if we liked our headlines we could keep them. Then you go and start changing things as soon as it goes green! I feel so betrayed. Never mind that the headline we had before was inferior and didn't meet basic standards for adapting song lyrics, this is an outrage!
 
2013-10-31 09:36:01 AM  
Also, I notice there's a REPEAT tag now.
But for some reason it isn't in use here.
 
2013-10-31 09:48:08 AM  

unlikely: Also, I notice there's a REPEAT tag now.
But for some reason it isn't in use here.


This is the latest butthurt. Expect 2 to 3 threads about this for the next few weeks.
 
2013-10-31 10:01:01 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-31 10:12:32 AM  
Underscoring the president's challenge, the HealthCare.gov website was down, because of technical difficulties, during his remarks.

Again? It was down last weekend. It was down when Carney was telling the press on Monday that it was, in fact, up running. It was down while Sebelius was testifying to congress.

The only thing that goes down more than healthcare.gov is your mom.
 
2013-10-31 10:24:55 AM  
Oh boy, it's this thread again
 
2013-10-31 10:33:54 AM  
...In retrospect, I think even Reid was doing his own bit of 'posturing' by wondering aloud about the GOP's strategy.

eh.

I think I'll just go back to thinking about tape drives and the things I can do with them. :/
 
2013-10-31 10:34:16 AM  
aaaaaaand THAT was in the wrong thread.

*headdesk*
 
2013-10-31 10:43:42 AM  

Elegy: Underscoring the president's challenge, the HealthCare.gov website was down, because of technical difficulties, during his remarks.

Again? It was down last weekend. It was down when Carney was telling the press on Monday that it was, in fact, up running. It was down while Sebelius was testifying to congress.

The only thing that goes down more than healthcare.gov is your mom.


Ahhh, Republicans. First they lie about the site's performance, then they resort to namecalling.

And why? Because they don't want their fellow Americans to have access to affordable healthcare.

/WHy is it that to make their point, Republicans must always resort to lying?
 
2013-10-31 10:45:53 AM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Elegy: Underscoring the president's challenge, the HealthCare.gov website was down, because of technical difficulties, during his remarks.

Again? It was down last weekend. It was down when Carney was telling the press on Monday that it was, in fact, up running. It was down while Sebelius was testifying to congress.

The only thing that goes down more than healthcare.gov is your mom.

Ahhh, Republicans. First they lie about the site's performance, then they resort to namecalling.

And why? Because they don't want their fellow Americans to have access to affordable healthcare.

/WHy is it that to make their point, Republicans must always resort to lying?


Never let the truth stand in the way of a good whine
 
2013-10-31 10:53:32 AM  
What did you want him to say?  He's not a dictator.  Did you want him to personally do the work for you I thought you people had bootstraps.
 
2013-10-31 11:00:17 AM  

TNel: He's not a dictator.


Not this week.  This week he's an empty suit, puppet, bystander-in-chief.
 
2013-10-31 11:00:42 AM  
Obama told me I could keep my doctor, but she recently told me she is moving her practice to the suburbs.

WHY YOU LIE TO ME OBAMA??
 
2013-10-31 11:10:45 AM  
Last year I wanted a mail order bride, but I didn't have much money, so I got one, but her cooking is terrible and she only gives me one BJ a year, on my birthday.

But shes cheap and generally Im happy with her.

Now, Obama comes along and tells me my cheap mail order bride isn't good enough. So they are sending her back to Bulgaria...and I have to pay more for a bride who can cook and clean and gives me a BJ 5 times a year!

But she also comes with a lot of stuff that I don't really need or want, like, she has a penis.

I don't NEED a wife with all that, I was happy with my old wife.

I was told that if I liked my old mail order bride, that I would be able to keep her. : (

Thanks a lot, Obama.
 
2013-10-31 11:10:52 AM  
farking media.  it's the sugar water that allows the GOP's cancer to grow.
 
2013-10-31 11:11:11 AM  
Can I buy the Canadian one?
 
2013-10-31 11:11:14 AM  
I can't wait to see Republicans railing against the free market.
 
2013-10-31 11:12:16 AM  

unlikely: So the law grandfathers your crap plan even if it doesn't meet the new standards
But Bubba and John's Fly-by-Night insurance cancels your plan

And somehow you want Obama to force them to keep your plan in place?


They hate the free market when it acts like the free market.
 
2013-10-31 11:14:43 AM  
my insurance plan is not allowable under the ppaca

i paid only a $72/mo premium and if i ever got sick the insurance company would donate $10 to the RNC

now i have to get these "pills" which no doubt are just riddled with fluoride
 
2013-10-31 11:15:26 AM  
So you're telling me that if I need to purchase something I should look around for the product that best suits my needs, and then try to find the best bargain I can for that product? The hells you say!
 
2013-10-31 11:15:50 AM  
What unlikely said at the go. If the government did somehow force previous providers to continue coverage, there'd be biatching about "Obama oppressing business!" or something. Can't win either way.
 
2013-10-31 11:17:12 AM  
How dare he try to save me money and get me a better plan! I demand a Free Market solution!
 
2013-10-31 11:18:01 AM  
Is the complaint here seriously that there are too many options when it comes to insurance?
 
2013-10-31 11:18:23 AM  
Obama told me I wouldn't lose my insurance policy if I didn't want to.  So I stopped paying for it and it turns out HES A LIAR.  I DIDNT STOP WANTING IT OBAMA
 
2013-10-31 11:19:21 AM  
Republicans say the current computer dysfunction is more reason to repeal the law

everyone! everyone! point and laugh at how stupid they are!
 
2013-10-31 11:19:21 AM  
At this point I have no idea what these people did before Obamacare.

How did you get your policy before the ACA? What makes you think you can't do that again?

I mean, actually shopping for health insurance on the market if your employer doesn't provide it? The horror... the absolute horror.
 
2013-10-31 11:19:50 AM  
TLDR version:

1. Obama didn't "cancel" your insurance plan.
2. If your plan got "canceled", it's because it was more a scam than insurance.
3. If you got your plan "canceled", maybe it's a Sign From Above® and it's time to shop someplace tghat doesn't rip you off.
 
2013-10-31 11:20:34 AM  
How many times do we have to tell these morons?

Your crap 20 dollar a month, 50,000 dollar deductible, no hospital coverage insurance was a scam. You can have REAL insurance for 200 dollars a month, which the government will help pay for, and actually save money on doctor visits and prescriptions. You would know this if you could either a) do math, or b) read, you ignorant farktwits.
 
2013-10-31 11:20:46 AM  

DarnoKonrad: farking media.  it's the sugar water that allows the GOP's cancer to grow.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-10-31 11:20:46 AM  
The people complaining about losing their coverage were silent in the last 30 years when people arbitrarily lost their coverage completely and couldn't get new coverage.

The people complaining about premiums being expensive were silent in the last 30 years when premiums shot up well over inflation, consistently.

The people complaining about not being able to get catastrophic plans are 1: lying and 2: were silent in the last 30 years when many of those catastrophic plans effectively offered no coverage and insurance companies worked to deny any and all payments.

The people complaining about the ACA were silent in the last 30 years when every single farking complaint that could be leveled against the ACA applied to private insurance companies, only ten times worse.
 
2013-10-31 11:21:09 AM  
So you do what you had to do in the past when insurance companies removed or modified policies; accept the new contract or find another provider.

It's not news, it's Fox News.
 
2013-10-31 11:21:37 AM  

Needlessly Complicated: DarnoKonrad: farking media.  it's the sugar water that allows the GOP's cancer to grow.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x278]


I am so happy I simuposted with that.

/Danger zone.
 
2013-10-31 11:23:34 AM  

Terminal Accessory: How many times do we have to tell these morons?

Your crap 20 dollar a month, 50,000 dollar deductible, no hospital coverage insurance was a scam. You can have REAL insurance for 200 dollars a month, which the government will help pay for, and actually save money on doctor visits and prescriptions. You would know this if you could either a) do math, or b) read, you ignorant farktwits.


yes but Benghazi.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-31 11:24:05 AM  
How many people actually want to keep a plan that doesn't meet the minimum standards of the ACA?  That's kind of like protesting that the dept of Agriculture is violating your right to have E.Coli in your salad.

Seriously, the only people who would buy something like that are people who can't afford good insurance, and they can get better now.
 
2013-10-31 11:27:02 AM  

vpb: That's kind of like protesting that the dept of Agriculture is violating your right to have E.Coli in your salad.


cdn2-b.examiner.com
 
2013-10-31 11:27:14 AM  

Terminal Accessory: How many times do we have to tell these morons?

Your crap 20 dollar a month, 50,000 dollar deductible, no hospital coverage insurance was a scam. You can have REAL insurance for 200 dollars a month, which the government will help pay for, and actually save money on doctor visits and prescriptions. You would know this if you could either a) do math, or b) read, you ignorant farktwits.


And there you have the Democratic ideal world in a nutshell: one in which offering plans that consumers want is an abuse and where they openly instruct adults that they don't know what's best for their own good. At least the veil has dropped and we get to see them for what they really are.
 
2013-10-31 11:27:17 AM  

unlikely: Also, I notice there's a REPEAT tag now.
But for some reason it isn't in use here.


It's the Politics Tab. The REPEAT tag is implied.
 
2013-10-31 11:27:18 AM  

vpb: How many people actually want to keep a plan that doesn't meet the minimum standards of the ACA?  That's kind of like protesting that the dept of Agriculture is violating your right to have E.Coli in your salad.

Seriously, the only people who would buy something like that are people who can't afford good insurance, and they can get better now.


But you still can buy those policies! Catastrophic policies are still available!
 
2013-10-31 11:27:30 AM  

vpb: How many people actually want to keep a plan that doesn't meet the minimum standards of the ACA?  That's kind of like protesting that the dept of Agriculture is violating your right to have E.Coli in your salad.

Seriously, the only people who would buy something like that are people who can't afford good insurance, and they can get better now.


BUT WHY SHOULD I PAY FOR MY PAP SMEARS? I DON'T EVEN HAVE A PAP!
 
2013-10-31 11:27:51 AM  

Elegy: Underscoring the president's challenge, the HealthCare.gov website was down, because of technical difficulties, during his remarks.

Again? It was down last weekend. It was down when Carney was telling the press on Monday that it was, in fact, up running. It was down while Sebelius was testifying to congress.

The only thing that goes down more than healthcare.gov is your mom.


frontpagemag.com
 
2013-10-31 11:28:46 AM  

Headso: vpb: That's kind of like protesting that the dept of Agriculture is violating your right to have E.Coli in your salad.

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I say this in every thread that has that picture, but I've lived in New York for the last eight years, and I've ALWAYS been able to get a 64-ounce Double Gulp at 7-11. It was never banned.
 
2013-10-31 11:29:12 AM  
jjorsett

And there you have the Democratic ideal world in a nutshell: one in which offering plans that consumers want is an abuse and where they openly instruct adults that they don't know what's best for their own good. At least the veil has dropped and we get to see them for what they really are.

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2013-10-31 11:29:43 AM  

Bloody William: Headso: vpb: That's kind of like protesting that the dept of Agriculture is violating your right to have E.Coli in your salad.

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I say this in every thread that has that picture, but I've lived in New York for the last eight years, and I've ALWAYS been able to get a 64-ounce Double Gulp at 7-11. It was never banned.


I think it was challenged and enjoined almost immediately.
 
2013-10-31 11:29:59 AM  

jjorsett: one in which offering plans that consumers want


When you see a poor person driving a 1982 minivan it's because they want that sweet ride.
 
2013-10-31 11:31:15 AM  

jjorsett: Terminal Accessory: How many times do we have to tell these morons?

Your crap 20 dollar a month, 50,000 dollar deductible, no hospital coverage insurance was a scam. You can have REAL insurance for 200 dollars a month, which the government will help pay for, and actually save money on doctor visits and prescriptions. You would know this if you could either a) do math, or b) read, you ignorant farktwits.

And there you have the Democratic ideal world in a nutshell: one in which offering plans that consumers want is an abuse and where they openly instruct adults that they don't know what's best for their own good. At least the veil has dropped and we get to see them for what they really are.


The people who want catastrophic policies can still get them. They are still available. I just... I mean... I don't know what to tell you. If you're so far into outrage mode that the ida of actually googling health insurance policies in your area and finding out what catastrophic polices are available to you, I just don't think I can say anything that will help people understand that.

Low premium, high deductible polices that cover nothing, but now offer no cost preventative care, are still available.
 
2013-10-31 11:31:37 AM  

vpb: How many people actually want to keep a plan that doesn't meet the minimum standards of the ACA?  That's kind of like protesting that the dept of Agriculture is violating your right to have E.Coli in your salad.

Seriously, the only people who would buy something like that are people who can't afford good insurance, and they can get better now.


Actually I heard this very argument out loud at work yesterday.  The resident Conservative, with his cube adorned with terrible comics and complete with a Sept 11th eagle picture, was railing about this.  His argument is that people should be able to choose whatever they want.  I tried to remind him that he has great insurance that the company pays 100% for (family is extra) that includes even more than is mandated by ACA.  His retort back to me was "Yes, but I got to choose that plan just like people should be able to choose theirs"

My response: "So you think the Sox have a chance tonight?"
 
2013-10-31 11:31:42 AM  

jjorsett: And there you have the Democratic ideal world in a nutshell: one in which offering plans that consumers want is an abuse and where they openly instruct adults that they don't know what's best for their own good. At least the veil has dropped and we get to see them for what they really are.


Here you have the Republican ideal world in a nutshell: one in which medical bills are the number one reason for bankruptcy and people are foregoing medical care, risking their lives because they cannot afford it.  One where if someone shows up to an ER dying and cannot afford care, they should simply die.  And Republicans think that's just fine.

Admittedly, the veil dropped on that one long ago.
 
2013-10-31 11:31:42 AM  
Nah, these people seem to prefer having a gripe to add to their pile against Obama than saving money/gaining benefits.

Now that is some real pathology there. 

Headso: vpb: That's kind of like protesting that the dept of Agriculture is violating your right to have E.Coli in your salad.

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As long as it ain't no elitist kale or *shudder* arugula salad.
 
2013-10-31 11:32:37 AM  

vernonFL: Last year I wanted a mail order bride, but I didn't have much money, so I got one, but her cooking is terrible and she only gives me one BJ a year, on my birthday.

But shes cheap and generally Im happy with her.

Now, Obama comes along and tells me my cheap mail order bride isn't good enough. So they are sending her back to Bulgaria...and I have to pay more for a bride who can cook and clean and gives me a BJ 5 times a year!

But she also comes with a lot of stuff that I don't really need or want, like, she has a penis.

I don't NEED a wife with all that, I was happy with my old wife.

I was told that if I liked my old mail order bride, that I would be able to keep her. : (

Thanks a lot, Obama.


I bought a rusty hatchet 3 years ago to cut pe... err trees, cut down trees. When I bought it, obama said I could keep my rusty hatchet. Now with obamacare, I have to buy a brand new, sharp hatchet and can't use my rusty one. Sure, it cuts wood better, but the pe... err trees don't scream cause its a clean cut!

THANKS OBAMA
 
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