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(Talking Points Memo)   Ryan waits a whopping five minutes before killing the grand bargain. Conservatives are pissed he waited 4 minutes and 58 seconds longer than he should have   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 254
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2013-10-31 08:28:56 AM  
I'm going to say this in small words(the kind that apparently you have to use to get through Paul Ryan's thick skull): "The Ryan Budget would tank the economy. That would be bad. The debt isn't that big of deal and even if it was the Ryan Budget plan to gut social welfare programs would do far more damage than even runaway debt."
 
2013-10-31 08:33:24 AM  
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"
 
2013-10-31 08:35:00 AM  
The country will be better off when Paul Ryan and the rest of the tard brigade are out of office.
 
2013-10-31 08:40:57 AM  
While they claim to not be gay, Republicans sure do love assholes.
 
2013-10-31 08:43:44 AM  
I so want Bernie Sanders (also on the committee) to run up and kick Paul Ryan in the nuts.
 
2013-10-31 09:03:31 AM  
He doesn't understand what he's doing; he just has a list of buzzwords that sound good to him.
 
2013-10-31 09:04:51 AM  
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2013-10-31 09:04:52 AM  

dr_blasto: The country will be better off when Paul Ryan and the rest of the tard brigade are out of office.


Unfortunately I don't believe it's going to happen to the degree that prevents obstructionism until the boomers start to kick the bucket.
 
2013-10-31 09:06:31 AM  
Rino
 
2013-10-31 09:06:35 AM  
Smack that biatch down and remind him of what happened the last time the GOP thought they were in control.
 
2013-10-31 09:08:18 AM  
No, no taxes to pay for things.. that penalizes the hard working billionaires who don't lift a finger.

But we should 'grow the economy'.  How?  Who knows.. wishful thinking?
 
2013-10-31 09:08:36 AM  
You republicans are true assholes. Every damn single one of you. This was predictable as the rising sun, yet you still continue to put these assclowns into office. Shame on you.
 
2013-10-31 09:08:44 AM  
You could probably balance the budget by cutting funding for ACORN.
 
2013-10-31 09:09:33 AM  
Welp, time to give the republicans nothing again.  They need to learn their lesson.
 
2013-10-31 09:09:36 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-31 09:10:28 AM  

AngryTeacher: You could probably balance the budget by cutting funding for ACORN.


Big Bird is a moneypit
 
2013-10-31 09:10:42 AM  
Maybe they should threaten to shut down the government again... that worked great last time.
 
2013-10-31 09:11:35 AM  
Good. F*ck your grand bargain.
 
2013-10-31 09:11:36 AM  
When these "talks" collapse, and they will, they'll have no choice but to shut down the government and try the debt ceiling gambit again predicating it on the Democrats unwillingness to compromise.
 
2013-10-31 09:13:31 AM  

Alphax: He doesn't understand what he's doing; he just has a list of buzzwords that sound good to the people he hopes will vote for him in 2016.


FTFY
 
2013-10-31 09:13:35 AM  
"Taking more from hardworking families just isn't the answer. I know my Republican colleagues feel the same way,"

ok, then how about we tax the crap out of investment income where no one actually does anything to earn that?

no, probably never work.

"Ten thousand baby boomers are retiring every day. Health care costs are rising. Medicare and Social Security are going broke,"

Soooo you want to reduce/kill medicare and social security so they just die faster?

jackass.
 
2013-10-31 09:14:27 AM  
Ryan's right though.  Can you imagine how horrible it would be if we ended up reverting to Clinton-era taxation levels?  I mean, the whole country was basically in the shiatter back in those days, and it was entirely because of the balanced budget and minimally higher tax rates, especially on the wealthy.

Thank you Paul Ryan for saving America.
 
2013-10-31 09:14:39 AM  
Democrats should immediately fold and not offer up any proposals.
 
2013-10-31 09:14:45 AM  
"Taking more from hardworking families just isn't the answer. I know my Republican colleagues feel the same way," Ryan said.

These kind of hard-working families? May God bless you Paul Ryan!
si.wsj.net
 
2013-10-31 09:15:08 AM  
Man up Francis. What happens to blowhard conservatives when they really fear what a papal excommunication will do to their political image?
 
2013-10-31 09:15:32 AM  
The pic of him in the article looks like it should have the caption 'Did I do that?'
 
2013-10-31 09:16:08 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Ryan's right though.  Can you imagine how horrible it would be if we ended up reverting to Clinton-era taxation levels?  I mean, the whole country was basically in the shiatter back in those days, and it was entirely because of the balanced budget and minimally higher tax rates, especially on the wealthy.

Thank you Paul Ryan for saving America.


If we went back to Clinton era spending levels too we could make that deal.
 
2013-10-31 09:16:29 AM  
"the most vulnerable will suffer first and worst." - Paul Ryan

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the #2 goal of the GOP.

#1 is still, inexplicably, limiting Obama to a single term.
 
2013-10-31 09:16:33 AM  

kidgenius: "Taking more from hardworking families just isn't the answer. I know my Republican colleagues feel the same way," Ryan said.

These kind of hard-working families? May God bless you Paul Ryan!
[si.wsj.net image 850x560]


The single parent and the retired couple get me every time.
 
2013-10-31 09:17:11 AM  
FTA: "Ryan, the GOP's vice presidential nominee in 2012, is rumored to have presidential ambitions in 2016. "

President Douche Canoe
 
2013-10-31 09:17:50 AM  

ikanreed: Welp, time to give the republicans nothing again.  They need to learn their lesson.


Republicans, learn?

*clicks funny button.*
 
2013-10-31 09:18:20 AM  

Twist-42:
"Ten thousand baby boomers are retiring every day. Health care costs are rising. Medicare and Social Security are going broke,"

Soooo you want to reduce/kill medicare and social security so they just die faster?

jackass.


This is what I don't get.....

How is cutting funding to SSI and Medicare going to save those programs? I know they're all for privatizing it, but why not just come out and propose the privatization option? You'd at least be able to make an argument that it makes sense (even though it doesn't).
 
2013-10-31 09:18:29 AM  

cchris_39: HMS_Blinkin: Ryan's right though.  Can you imagine how horrible it would be if we ended up reverting to Clinton-era taxation levels?  I mean, the whole country was basically in the shiatter back in those days, and it was entirely because of the balanced budget and minimally higher tax rates, especially on the wealthy.

Thank you Paul Ryan for saving America.

If we went back to Clinton era spending levels too we could make that deal.


Yeah, it's too bad someone started a bunch of wars we have to pay for now.  Those guys really made this whole thing a lot more difficult.  It was nice when we had that "peace dividend" at the end of the cold war, but certain people figured out a way to make that disappear!  And the best part was, Iraq totally had WMD and Saddam was totally behind 9/11!

Again, thanks for keeping America strong!
 
2013-10-31 09:19:41 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Ryan's right though.  Can you imagine how horrible it would be if we ended up reverting to Clinton-era taxation levels?  I mean, the whole country was basically in the shiatter back in those days, and it was entirely because of the balanced budget and minimally higher tax rates, especially on the wealthy.

Thank you Paul Ryan for saving America.


The Fed should really raise the target rate back to Clinton levels too. Hell, it didn't tank the economy then ergo it is fine to do now! Ceteris Paribus ftw!
 
2013-10-31 09:19:49 AM  

apoptotic:
#1 is still, inexplicably, limiting Obama to a single term.


They failed at that, so now they are trying to limit him to only two terms.
 
2013-10-31 09:19:54 AM  
"Ten thousand baby boomers are retiring every day. Health care costs are rising. Medicare and Social Security are going broke," Ryan said.

So the solution you have to this problem was provided in the article as well:

Ryan urged action on scaling back Social Security and Medicare

No you blithering moron, you raise government revenue to pay for obligations inside and outside the country. We're coming up on 10 years of "CUT THE MOTHERF*CKING TAXES TO STIMULATE GROWTH!!1!11" not working and actually making things worse. It's time to do something different.
 
2013-10-31 09:20:24 AM  
"Taking more from hardworking families just isn't the answer."Says the man whose party has cut 40 billion in food stamps for families and people who struggle to find jobs or have low paying jobs and can't get enough money for food. Oh and your repeated rhetoric of asking for cutting social programs to decrease taxes on richer americans. Yeah, fark you asshole.
 
2013-10-31 09:20:46 AM  

kidgenius: These kind of hard-working families? May God bless you Paul Ryan!


look out how sad they look! how can you say no to tax breaks to their cute little sad faces??!! you heartless bastard!
 
2013-10-31 09:20:49 AM  
FTFA: "Ten thousand baby boomers are retiring every day. Health care costs are rising. Medicare and Social Security are going broke," Ryan said.

It's a crisis 100% of your own making. Eliminate the damn FICA cap and we will never have to have another conversation about Medicare and Social Security.
 
2013-10-31 09:21:10 AM  

kidgenius: "Taking more from hardworking families just isn't the answer. I know my Republican colleagues feel the same way," Ryan said.

These kind of hard-working families? May God bless you Paul Ryan!
[si.wsj.net image 850x560]


Where the heck did that come from? My wife an I make pretty damn good money, but we only even get close to the income of the retired couple. How does a retired couple get $180,000 in income? The graphic claims $52,000 in investment income, so the other $130,000 is pension? Who has that kind of pension? Farking unions!
 
2013-10-31 09:21:19 AM  

apoptotic: "the most vulnerable will suffer first and worst." - Paul Ryan


"The rich are our betters; their goals are our goals." -Paul Ryan
 
2013-10-31 09:21:51 AM  
Paul Ryan, a rep from Wisconsin, couldn't even sway the voters away from Obama in 2012 for the state. That statistic makes it even funnier that Walker and Ryan are "seriously considering" presidential runs. The sooner they go away, the better. This state is going sour in a hurry with Walker's policies and Ryan's shutdown agenda.
 
2013-10-31 09:22:05 AM  

kidgenius: I know they're all for privatizing it, but why not just come out and propose the privatization option?


He did, to a degree, pushing for all of Medicare to take the form of Medicare Advantage (part C), which historically is a horrific abortion of a program.
 
2013-10-31 09:22:37 AM  
I wonder how much even business interests are willing to stay with these nutcases.

I work for a biopharmaceutical company (I know, I know - one of Fark's favorite bogeymen).  A few days ago we had a company gathering and the CEO gave an interesting speech.  This guy is the embodiment of what the Republican Party claims to revere - a self-made man who founded the company and over a few decades turned in into a multi-billion dollar business employing a few thousand people and made himself and a number of other people millionaires in the process.

Well he gave a speech that veered into the political and was essentially a laundry list of Democratic principles - the need for investment in science and funding for the NIH, the need for investment in education, the need for a strong FDA and a strong government regulatory regime, the need for strong and fair regulation of financial markets, the need for government to subsidize health care for those that can't afford it - as all things necessary to make businesses like ours successful.  And he strongly denounced the idea that the role of government with regards to business is to "get out of the way."

I thought it was interesting, and it really made me wonder how deep the Republican Party's supposed backing in the business community really is.  Here you have a guy - a self-made millionaire entrepreneur businessman - giving a full-throated defense of Democratic values and basically excoriating the modern Republican Party agenda.
 
2013-10-31 09:22:44 AM  
Show me where austerity has ever worked because there are plenty of examples where it hasn't

no?  then STFU
 
2013-10-31 09:22:53 AM  
These are the same people who screamed at Obama for not compromising, right? What's it called when you say you will not offer one inch towards the other side's demands if they offer to embrace most of yours?
 
2013-10-31 09:23:05 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Ryan's right though.  Can you imagine how horrible it would be if we ended up reverting to Clinton-era taxation levels?  I mean, the whole country was basically in the shiatter back in those days, and it was entirely because of the balanced budget and minimally higher tax rates, especially on the wealthy.

Thank you Paul Ryan for saving America.


We did revert back to the clinton top rates so you are suggesting that we ballance the budget by raising taxes on the middle class?  Good luck with that message.
 
2013-10-31 09:23:07 AM  

skullkrusher: HMS_Blinkin: Ryan's right though.  Can you imagine how horrible it would be if we ended up reverting to Clinton-era taxation levels?  I mean, the whole country was basically in the shiatter back in those days, and it was entirely because of the balanced budget and minimally higher tax rates, especially on the wealthy.

Thank you Paul Ryan for saving America.

The Fed should really raise the target rate back to Clinton levels too. Hell, it didn't tank the economy then ergo it is fine to do now! Ceteris Paribus ftw!


Did I say that?  I'm pointing out the utter absurdity of GOP congressmen fighting tooth and nail to avoid even marginal revenue increases.  They say they're serious about the debt, but they won't consider bringing in more money.

Ergo, they're aren't serious about the debt.
 
2013-10-31 09:23:32 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-31 09:23:44 AM  

skullkrusher: HMS_Blinkin: Ryan's right though.  Can you imagine how horrible it would be if we ended up reverting to Clinton-era taxation levels?  I mean, the whole country was basically in the shiatter back in those days, and it was entirely because of the balanced budget and minimally higher tax rates, especially on the wealthy.

Thank you Paul Ryan for saving America.

The Fed should really raise the target rate back to Clinton levels too. Hell, it didn't tank the economy then ergo it is fine to do now! Ceteris Paribus ftw!


It only works if the President is getting blowjobs in the Oval Office.
 
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