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(NPR)   A Rhode Island town is invaded by 1,200 people "identifiable by their black T-shirts with obscure science-fiction references and poor taste in literature"   (npr.org) divider line 51
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2013-10-31 09:14:14 AM
Providence would more properly be referred to as a city.

He was very creative, too bad he wasn't a better writer.
 
2013-10-31 09:31:06 AM
But now, thanks mostly to social media, this old name in sci-fi horror is getting new attention from a growing fan base.

WTF?
 
2013-10-31 09:31:22 AM
That purple prose of his can be very engaging. It can also be very alienating.
 
2013-10-31 09:40:29 AM
1,200 people, at I'm gonna guess anywhere between 350,000 and 375,000 pounds.
 
2013-10-31 09:43:30 AM
shut up subby.  1200 people don't fit in Rhode Island.  Especially ...

EyeballKid: at I'm gonna guess anywhere between 350,000 and 375,000 pounds.

 
2013-10-31 09:47:19 AM
Wait a minute... Rhode Island is an actual place? I thought it was just a unit of measurement.
 
2013-10-31 09:51:02 AM
Goreans?
 
2013-10-31 09:56:46 AM

EyeballKid: 1,200 people, at I'm gonna guess anywhere between 350,000 and 375,000 pounds.


Rhode Island is known for having overweight people?
 
2013-10-31 09:58:31 AM
Fark party?
 
2013-10-31 10:00:56 AM
I would be there except I lost my car keys
anyone seen Yog-Sothoth?
 
2013-10-31 10:01:01 AM

Gunny Highway: EyeballKid: 1,200 people, at I'm gonna guess anywhere between 350,000 and 375,000 pounds.

Rhode Island is known for having overweight people?


37th in rank, so in the bottom half for fat people.
 
2013-10-31 10:03:25 AM

EvilEgg: Gunny Highway: EyeballKid: 1,200 people, at I'm gonna guess anywhere between 350,000 and 375,000 pounds.

Rhode Island is known for having overweight people?

37th in rank, so in the bottom half for fat people.


I was thinking more the sci-fi/goth lit fan stereotype. There's usually reason they have all that free time for reading.
 
2013-10-31 10:04:32 AM

EyeballKid: EvilEgg: Gunny Highway: EyeballKid: 1,200 people, at I'm gonna guess anywhere between 350,000 and 375,000 pounds.

Rhode Island is known for having overweight people?

37th in rank, so in the bottom half for fat people.

I was thinking more the sci-fi/goth lit fan stereotype. There's usually reason they have all that free time for reading.


Got ya.

Happy that RI is doing something for one of our most famous sons.  Growing up there you never heard anything about him.
 
2013-10-31 10:06:35 AM
fark you, Lovecraft was an amazing writer.
 
2013-10-31 10:10:09 AM
I found it pretty funny that the guys name that organized was Hobbs
 
2013-10-31 10:18:43 AM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: fark you, Lovecraft was an amazing writer.


If by "amazing" you mean he had interesting ideas, then sure.  Overlooking his racism, the main problem with his books is he was a terrible writer in the sense of being able to craft sentences and put them into paragraphs, especially compared to, say, Poe.
 
2013-10-31 10:19:19 AM
Ah, Lovecraft fans. The people God created so that Stephen King fans could have someone to look down on.

Now they're going to clutter up a perfectly respectable New England town, scaring the mundanes and just fhtagn around.


/Not a fan of Lovecraft's style, upbringing, old-fashioned bigotry or anything else other than his ideas.
//Which have been much, much better used by smarter, younger writers.
///Ever read any Delta Green?
////All Hail Slash-Ee-Thog-Gua!
 
2013-10-31 10:22:10 AM
Was the Con scheduled so that it took place under a gibbous moon?
 
2013-10-31 10:24:02 AM

czei: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: fark you, Lovecraft was an amazing writer.

If by "amazing" you mean he had interesting ideas, then sure.  Overlooking his racism, the main problem with his books is he was a terrible writer in the sense of being able to craft sentences and put them into paragraphs, especially compared to, say, Poe.


I've always found his writing style perfect for suspense. Just the info you need to be captivated. But maybe I'm crazy as him.

bill4935: a perfectly respectable New England town


YKHIK you don't know Providence?
 
2013-10-31 10:24:51 AM

czei: If by "amazing" you mean he had interesting ideas, then sure. Overlooking his racism, the main problem with his books is he was a terrible writer in the sense of being able to craft sentences and put them into paragraphs, especially compared to, say, Poe.


As bad as a writer he might have been, you have to at least give the guy credit for the ideas he spawned into existence.
 
2013-10-31 10:27:55 AM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: fark you, Lovecraft was an amazing writer.


He was an evocative writer, and I think he's worthy of more attention than he gets. But there are only so many times you can use the words "non-Euclidean," "Cyclopean," in a story.

/the Colour Out Of Space is a personal favorite.
 
2013-10-31 10:38:56 AM
"NecronomiCon" is the name chosen to demonstrate this is a serious literary conference?

Please note I am now not taking this man or his conference seriously.
 
2013-10-31 10:50:40 AM

czei: Overlooking his racism,


If you had to dismiss historical American authors because of racism, no one would be reading lots of authors---Mark Twain, for example. And that would be a shame.
 
2013-10-31 10:51:55 AM
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/and here we go...
 
2013-10-31 10:52:33 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-31 10:53:27 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-31 10:53:48 AM

Somacandra: czei: Overlooking his racism,

If you had to dismiss historical American authors because of racism, no one would be reading lots of authors---Mark Twain, for example. And that would be a shame.


Imagine dismissing British authors for classicism.
 
2013-10-31 10:54:03 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-31 10:56:47 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-31 10:56:58 AM
EvilEgg:

He was very creative, too bad he wasn't a better writer.

Nah, he just needed to spend more time re-writing his stories, and getting an editor.

But like Robert E. Howard and the other pulp fiction writers in the 1920s and 30s, I think the fact that he was churning out stories just to make a pittance, with very little re-writing and editing, hurts more than lack of skill.  From Wiki - " Never able to support himself from earnings as author and editor, commercial success increasingly eluded him in this latter period, partly because he lacked the confidence and drive to promote himself. Lovecraft subsisted in progressively straightened circumstances in his last years, an inheritance was completely spent by the time he passed away at the age of 46."

If he had found a wealthy benefactor or inherited more money,  and had been able and willing to hire a good editor and spent more time polishing his stories, the end results would have been fantastic.
 
2013-10-31 11:07:14 AM
Actual conversation that just took place:

Somacandra: Hey [3-yr old daughter], can you say: 'Yog-Sohoth save me! The three-lobed burning eye!"

3-yr old: "No Dad, I can't. Please just put my shoes on."

/shiat nerdy parents say
 
2013-10-31 11:08:21 AM
might be an ok place to find people to play this:

www.acrosstheboardgames.net

cf.geekdo-images.com
 
2013-10-31 11:35:41 AM

bill4935: Ah, Lovecraft fans. The people God created so that Stephen King fans could have someone to look down on.


Now that is funny.
 
2013-10-31 11:38:18 AM
The short stories of H.P. Lovecraft are filled with monsters and mysterious creatures from outer space. They have names like Cthulhu and Yog-Sothoth.

In fourth-grade reading level prose, NPR clucks it's tongue at misguided youth who waste their time reading someone other than Philip Roth.
 
2013-10-31 11:41:37 AM

Somacandra: czei: Overlooking his racism,

If you had to dismiss historical American authors because of racism, no one would be reading lots of authors---Mark Twain, for example. And that would be a shame.


Mark Twain was FAR ahead of his time and anti-slavery. Being a product of his times some of his works do sound racist to modern ears, but in his day he was a bleeding heart liberal progressive. He often wrote about slavery in a negative light.
 
2013-10-31 11:51:02 AM
That movie based on HPL's works sounds like it might be a showing of Call of cthullu. That 'modern" silent movie.

for a budget of about $35 and a bag of cheatos, its pretty good, if you like that sort of thing. It's on Netflix streaming
 
2013-10-31 12:06:54 PM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 393x396]

/and here we go...


i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-31 12:09:37 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: czei: If by "amazing" you mean he had interesting ideas, then sure. Overlooking his racism, the main problem with his books is he was a terrible writer in the sense of being able to craft sentences and put them into paragraphs, especially compared to, say, Poe.

As bad as a writer he might have been, you have to at least give the guy credit for the ideas he spawned into existence.


Not just the ideas he put on paper, either.  His writing circle, the use of each other's concepts to reinforce and build essentially a shared mythology, was way ahead of its time.  He was also a mentor to many authors who went on to be pretty damned good - Robert Bloch, for example.
 
2013-10-31 12:52:38 PM
I look at Lovecraft and Tolkien as being very similar, actually. Tolkien wasn't much of a writer, but was a hell of a world-builder. Similarly, Lovecraft's prose is simplistic, repetitive, racist, and just not very good. But the Cthulhu mythos has dramatically influenced a lot of people who've come after.

Just like Tolkien's invention of dwarves, elves, and orcs dramatically influenced all later fantasy writers, Lovecraft's invention of an evil pantheon of nameless dread dramatically influenced a lot of later horror writers. No longer were those guys reduced to having their evil nasties be tied to Satan - terrifyingly horrible beings could have a source other than hell, all of a sudden.
 
2013-10-31 01:14:24 PM

czei: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: fark you, Lovecraft was an amazing writer.

If by "amazing" you mean he had interesting ideas, then sure.  Overlooking his racism, the main problem with his books is he was a terrible writer in the sense of being able to craft sentences and put them into paragraphs, especially compared to, say, Poe.


...and yet he's still better at it than many of the successful fiction writers of our age. He's not "literature", certainly, and so elitism can apply to his work, but he still makes for fun, creepy reading, and, as other posters have mentioned, his literary devices are still swiped on a regular basis by other writers.
 
2013-10-31 01:38:55 PM
Oh that's it. Next Fark Party in Toronto or Ottawa, I'm bringing Arkham Horror.

/If you're nice to me, I'll bring Eldritch Horror instead.
 
2013-10-31 02:00:59 PM
I attempted to read a story, I think it was called Beyond the Mountains of Madness. I gave up after about 100 pages. Nothing happened. It was just coordinates and taxonomy descriptions of some monster they found under the ice. That story made 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea seem exciting in comparison. I think HP Lovecraft is just author that internet nerds reference to be cool.
 
2013-10-31 02:54:28 PM
TIL, a lot of people have a berserk button at the name "Lovecraft".
 
2013-10-31 03:47:35 PM

Flappyhead: But now, thanks mostly to social media, this old name in sci-fi horror is getting new attention from a growing fan base.

WTF?


Cthulu jokes are fun.  There are a lot of them floating around the internet.  Plus some games based on his myths (Call of Cthulu, Arkham Horror, etc...).

I don't need to read Bram Stroker to enjoy a good vampire story.  I figure it's the same with Lovecraft.
 
2013-10-31 04:38:46 PM

mcmnky: "NecronomiCon" is the name chosen to demonstrate this is a serious literary conference?


Serious literary conference?  This is a Lovecraft fanvention.

Are you also upset Star Trek conventions don't spend much time on advanced theoretical physics?
 
2013-10-31 04:50:39 PM

K.B.O. Winston: mcmnky: "NecronomiCon" is the name chosen to demonstrate this is a serious literary conference?

Serious literary conference?  This is a Lovecraft fanvention.

Are you also upset Star Trek conventions don't spend much time on advanced theoretical physics?


I'm not upset. I don't care one way or the other.

You, on the other hand, might want to RTFA.
 
2013-10-31 05:51:08 PM

mcmnky: K.B.O. Winston: mcmnky: "NecronomiCon" is the name chosen to demonstrate this is a serious literary conference?

Serious literary conference?  This is a Lovecraft fanvention.

Are you also upset Star Trek conventions don't spend much time on advanced theoretical physics?

I'm not upset. I don't care one way or the other.

You, on the other hand, might want to RTFA.


But.... but... but that's what the commentary threads are for!

/you caught me, I almost never read the article :-)
 
2013-10-31 06:05:15 PM

K.B.O. Winston: mcmnky: K.B.O. Winston: mcmnky: "NecronomiCon" is the name chosen to demonstrate this is a serious literary conference?

Serious literary conference?  This is a Lovecraft fanvention.

Are you also upset Star Trek conventions don't spend much time on advanced theoretical physics?

I'm not upset. I don't care one way or the other.

You, on the other hand, might want to RTFA.

But.... but... but that's what the commentary threads are for!

/you caught me, I almost never read the article :-)


No worries.  You're not missing much (other than the conference guy (or the NPR writer) who is trying to pass off a FanCon as "a serious literary conference")

/rarely reads the story as well
//unless there is the potential for Boobies
 
2013-10-31 06:25:47 PM
Portland, Ore

"Ore"? Who still uses that archaic abbreviation?

Oh and we have this:

i42.tinypic.com

img.gawkerassets.com
 
2013-11-01 01:53:17 AM

Chainsaw Turd Elf: I attempted to read a story, I think it was called Beyond the Mountains of Madness. I gave up after about 100 pages. Nothing happened. It was just coordinates and taxonomy descriptions of some monster they found under the ice. That story made 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea seem exciting in comparison. I think HP Lovecraft is just author that internet nerds reference to be cool.


I never cared for his novels or novelas. He always did just what you complained about but his short stories are quite fun. Hardly literature but good fun creepiness.
 
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