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(Wall Street Journal)   Just when you thought Facebook scraped the bottom of the barrel with a lack of privacy, now they dug through and will be tracking your cursor movements, see you have a thing for Jocelyn Wildenstein   (blogs.wsj.com) divider line 28
    More: Asinine, Jocelyn Wildenstein, Facebook, user interaction, Hadoop, petabytes  
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2013-10-31 07:01:14 AM  
I bet the NSA loves Facebook!
 
2013-10-31 09:04:26 AM  
I don't understand.
 
2013-10-31 09:10:14 AM  
*GIS*
ewwww god why, subby [!]
 
2013-10-31 09:35:54 AM  
If their analysis indicates that I keep resetting my feed to Most Recent every time they farking change it to Top Stories, I'm all for it.
 
2013-10-31 09:41:36 AM  
Everytime I think Facecrook can't possibly get any worse they prove me wrong.
 
2013-10-31 09:41:37 AM  
Hey Jocelyn Wildenstein called, she wants her face back!
 
2013-10-31 09:42:48 AM  

Hack Patooey: If their analysis indicates that I keep resetting my feed to Most Recent every time they farking change it to Top Stories, I'm all for it.

 
2013-10-31 09:51:00 AM  
Ctrl-t fac enter pgdn pgdn pgdn pgdn pgdn ctrl-f4

^ my usual way of using Facebook.
 
2013-10-31 09:55:37 AM  
After reading that yesterday, I decided it's time to pull the plug on Facebook for good. (Well, it takes 14 days to delete the account.)

I'm sure it's just a matter of time before they can tell that my cursor has been on www.MexicanMidgetsAndDonkeys.com.
 
2013-10-31 10:03:39 AM  

StopLurkListen: Ctrl-t fac enter pgdn pgdn pgdn pgdn pgdn ctrl-f4

^ my usual way of using Facebook.


CTRL-W is easier to reach
 
2013-10-31 10:14:46 AM  
They're assuming people put their mouse pointer on whatever they're reading? Like people who run their finger across the pages of a book? Who does that? Surely if you're looking at a photograph you'll move the mouse off the photograph so it doesn't distract you?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-10-31 10:16:04 AM  
I move my cursor away from interesting things so I can read them without a cursor in the way.
If they track my eyeballs, then we have a problem.
 
2013-10-31 10:18:24 AM  
I understand why some people have it, but getting rid of my facebook/twitter/blackpeoplemeet.com has been the most liberating thing I've done recently.  And with all the new crap that has come out about their shifty ways in the past two years I couldn't be happier.
 
2013-10-31 10:23:24 AM  

Flint Ironstag: They're assuming people put their mouse pointer on whatever they're reading? Like people who run their finger across the pages of a book? Who does that? Surely if you're looking at a photograph you'll move the mouse off the photograph so it doesn't distract you?


Yeah, what a idiotic conclusion. I always place the cursor in some blank real estate so I can see the farking thing when I'm ready to do something with the computer. Of course, being old, far sighted and nearly legally blind at 18" may indicate I am not prime FB customer material...and I don't have a FB (G+, Linkdin, etc.) account, so there's that.
 
2013-10-31 10:28:54 AM  
Who wants to help their family figure out why their computer is "going slow"?

"Yeah, you're going to need a high-end gaming computer to keep up with the amount of tracking facebook wants to do."
 
2013-10-31 11:02:42 AM  

KawaiiNot: I bet the NSA loves Facebook!


Relevant.
 
2013-10-31 11:11:08 AM  

Stone Meadow: Flint Ironstag: They're assuming people put their mouse pointer on whatever they're reading? Like people who run their finger across the pages of a book? Who does that? Surely if you're looking at a photograph you'll move the mouse off the photograph so it doesn't distract you?

Yeah, what a idiotic conclusion. I always place the cursor in some blank real estate so I can see the farking thing when I'm ready to do something with the computer. Of course, being old, far sighted and nearly legally blind at 18" may indicate I am not prime FB customer material...and I don't have a FB (G+, Linkdin, etc.) account, so there's that.


Yeah, I'm sure the guys who analyze website data professionally didn't think of the most obvious thing in the farking world about website data. Good catch, you guys. Any other fields you think you can crack wide open by naively assuming that the people who work in it are complete morons?
 
2013-10-31 11:20:00 AM  
Fools! Who would ever think Facebook can't sink any lower than it happens to be at a given moment?
 
2013-10-31 12:37:14 PM  

thurstonxhowell: Stone Meadow: Flint Ironstag: They're assuming people put their mouse pointer on whatever they're reading? Like people who run their finger across the pages of a book? Who does that? Surely if you're looking at a photograph you'll move the mouse off the photograph so it doesn't distract you?

Yeah, what a idiotic conclusion. I always place the cursor in some blank real estate so I can see the farking thing when I'm ready to do something with the computer. Of course, being old, far sighted and nearly legally blind at 18" may indicate I am not prime FB customer material...and I don't have a FB (G+, Linkdin, etc.) account, so there's that.

Yeah, I'm sure the guys who analyze website data professionally didn't think of the most obvious thing in the farking world about website data. Good catch, you guys. Any other fields you think you can crack wide open by naively assuming that the people who work in it are complete morons?


Because the senior executives of large businesses never make mistakes or do really stupid things?

Clicking on a link or advert is valid data, but TFA is saying they measure people who move the pointer to an advert just to read the advert. Who does that? Do you? The only reason I move the pointer is to the scroll bar, to click on a link or to move it away from what I want to look at, usually off to the end of the screen.
 
2013-10-31 12:51:30 PM  
I'm sure my random highlighting and box drawing will give them much insight.
 
2013-10-31 12:57:59 PM  

Stop using Facebook, damn it!

What part of "you're the product" do you folks not understand? You are, quite actually, test subjects - closely monitored, your every action and reaction tracked for marketing purposes. The results of their experiments travel far outside Facebook's domain, as they're selling the resulting business intelligence to other companies, who then use that information for their marketing in other arenas.

You're selling out not just yourselves, but the rest of us, as well.
 
2013-10-31 01:19:50 PM  
The first laptop I got with one of those camera lenses in it was immediately decorated with a piece of masking tape.

I'm with the chorus of people who do not put their cursor over what they are reading. I move it over to the scroll bar unless I'm typing something.

Bonus is that I feed them false data and encourage everyone else to do so. No one gets my date of birth, home town or any other information. They do have my connections to other people, but they don't get the questions my bank asks me. I use the same fictional data on all the social sites, so if there's a verification process, I remember what bs to tell them.
 
2013-10-31 01:37:19 PM  
All I got in my FB news pheed is NASA, United Space Alliance, more NASA related stuff, Rest In Peace Neil Armstrong, Lil BUB Cat, a local yokel or two, and a piddling-small handful of yep, weirdo Finnish people.

The only time I meddle with adverts is to TURN THEM THE F**K OFF.

I don't use the Like button but maybe once in a month or so.

I wish heartily that there was a Hate button cos I would mash that sucker like a bowl of potato bugs.

Next time I'm burrowing around in that info-mining megashiatfest, I guess I'll just stuff every other space related thing
[NASA Goddard, NASA Ames, NASA Dryden, SpaceX, BlueOrigin, Dream Chaser, the ISS Toilet, etc.]
...plus Alan Bean and Buzz Aldrin can hop in there too.
 
2013-10-31 02:03:21 PM  
If this is true, I'll just start shaking my mouse all over the screen randomly. Maybe they'll think I have Parkinsons...
 
2013-10-31 02:14:05 PM  

SurfaceTension: Hack Patooey: If their analysis indicates that I keep resetting my feed to Most Recent every time they farking change it to Top Stories, I'm all for it.

 
2013-10-31 02:17:06 PM  

Flint Ironstag: They're assuming people put their mouse pointer on whatever they're reading? Like people who run their finger across the pages of a book? Who does that? Surely if you're looking at a photograph you'll move the mouse off the photograph so it doesn't distract you?


The OnMouseOver(); function has been a staple of Javascript for years (in fact, it might even be deprecated in favor of more robust Jquery hover functions). And considering that a great deal many things can be gleaned from hovering your mouse over ads, people's profiles, and other things to get a quick snapshot/popup of what it is, it's reasonable that they would want to track all that.

It's not about what you're reading or looking at, it's about how you surf. And just about everything on a website can have a hover function attached to an AJAX call to a db to track what you're doing with your mouse. I'm surprised they don't do that already.
 
2013-10-31 07:43:28 PM  
I've liked about 4 things in the 5 years I've been on FB. FB targeted ads must be going nuts. The only things in my feed besides bullshiat from my few friends are Xbox ads and posts from the movie Blade. Now that "liking" something means a spammed newsfeed, the button is beyond useless.
 
2013-10-31 08:41:39 PM  
Ishkur:

It's not about what you're reading or looking at, it's about how you surf. And just about everything on a website can have a hover function attached to an AJAX call to a db to track what you're doing with your mouse. I'm surprised they don't do that already.

Then I better not accidentally hover over that terrorist link while I have my lunch break.
 
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