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(Sun Sentinel)   Well if you can't trust your church volunteers to not molest 9 year-old girls, who can you trust?   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 53
    More: Florida, Hollywood, Sex Crimes Detective Michele McCardle, volunteers, Special Victims Unit, Broward Sheriff's Office  
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2013-10-31 12:28:26 AM
FTFA: Maher Jair Ortega-Estevez, 29, is charged with lewd or lascivious molestation of a child under 12 and is being held without bond at Broward's Main Jail.

So, if he hadn't done it in a lewd or lascivious manner, then the molestation would have been okay?
 
2013-10-31 12:40:08 AM
I read that as 'moist' 9-year-old girls.

/I'm tired
 
2013-10-31 01:01:25 AM
If he needed a pillow she didn't have enough junk in her trunk.
 
2013-10-31 01:05:18 AM
At least they charged the guy with a crime and the organization didn't tell the parents "no, problem we will handle it internally don't call the cops" and transfer the dude to another parish where he repeats the same thing.
 
2013-10-31 01:17:52 AM
Who can you trust?

I dunno... how about "people who are able to tell right from wrong without threat of the wrath of an imaginary sky fairy that they may or may not only be pretending to believe in" ... I think that's where I'd start looking.
 
2013-10-31 01:42:35 AM
Molested a  girl. That's odd.
 
2013-10-31 03:18:34 AM
Volunteers are basically the LAST people you should trust kids with.

Pedophiles, by definition, like kids. So while almost no volunteers are pedophiles, all pedophiles will be volunteers when kids are involved.

What you need to do is find the person who kinda hates kids, but is professional enough to keep them from being eaten by wolves or something, and get them to watch over them. Functional Alcoholic Uncle With Long Term Girlfriend or Likes Animals More Than People Lady are good choices. So good, in fact, they're probably busy or wise to the scam. Doesn't Want To Do It Dad is usually available and Spoil Em All Granny, too. They're your best bets.
 
2013-10-31 03:18:59 AM
The priest.
 
2013-10-31 03:21:11 AM

F-14Tomcat: Molested a  girl. That's odd.


Just a volunteer, not a priest.


doglover: Volunteers are basically the LAST people you should trust kids with.

Pedophiles, by definition, like kids. So while almost no volunteers are pedophiles, all pedophiles will be volunteers when kids are involved.

What you need to do is find the person who kinda hates kids, but is professional enough to keep them from being eaten by wolves or something, and get them to watch over them. Functional Alcoholic Uncle With Long Term Girlfriend or Likes Animals More Than People Lady are good choices. So good, in fact, they're probably busy or wise to the scam. Doesn't Want To Do It Dad is usually available and Spoil Em All Granny, too. They're your best bets.


Of course the obvious problem there is getting someone who hates kids to work with them for free.
 
2013-10-31 03:27:02 AM
You can always trust uncles.
 
2013-10-31 03:30:32 AM
To be fair, in this guy's home culture, 12 is not really considered too young for molesting.
 
2013-10-31 03:31:27 AM
W.W.J.D.?
 
2013-10-31 03:34:02 AM

Atomic Spunk: W.W.J.D.?


Are you talking about Jesus Jesus, or this guy's brother who works at a used tire shop?
 
2013-10-31 03:41:32 AM
Muhammad?

/No wait.. that doesn't work.
 
2013-10-31 03:46:00 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Atomic Spunk: W.W.J.D.?

Are you talking about Jesus Jesus, or this guy's brother who works at a used tire shop?


www.encognitive.com
 
2013-10-31 03:46:21 AM

jaylectricity: If he needed a pillow she didn't have enough junk in her trunk.


Not necessarily. Mrs. Lion has a generous amount of junk in her trunk and we still sometimes need to put a pillow down.

/DNRTFA
 
2013-10-31 03:47:32 AM
"Detectives set up a monitored phone call between the victim and Ortega-Estevez on Tuesday during which he admitted to touching the girl, the report stated."

As I keep saying, 'prison is for stupid people.'

fusillade762: Of course the obvious problem there is getting someone who hates kids to work with them for free.


So pay me.

ManthonyHiggs: You can always trust uncles.


Very funny, nephew.
 
2013-10-31 03:57:04 AM

F-14Tomcat: Molested a  girl. That's odd.


Vast majority of this sick shiat is done by men with girls as victims. Just not publicized as much
 
2013-10-31 04:09:03 AM
Definitely not your local youth minister.

www.bishop-accountability.org

A 33-year-old Huntington youth pastor was arrested Monday on charges he fondled a 10-year-old girl in his apartment at the Good Shepherd Church last summer.
 
2013-10-31 04:24:06 AM

unlikely: Who can you trust?

I dunno... how about "people who are able to tell right from wrong without threat of the wrath of an imaginary sky fairy that they may or may not only be pretending to believe in" ... I think that's where I'd start looking.


This is a country where people who travel halfway around the world to slaughter innocent brown people are called "hero." Don't expect many to be able to tell right from wrong.
 
2013-10-31 04:28:23 AM
I mean, at this point in history, if you want to elevate the risk of your kids being molested exponentially, be religious.
 
2013-10-31 04:29:41 AM

fusillade762: Of course the obvious problem there is getting someone who hates kids to work with them for free.


It's called power. If you can get some, people must obey you.

Also people who actually hate kids will just abandon them or do things to help them to fark with you, the parent, later. Where did little Billy get an air horn and three red bulls? I dunno, but I bet you a dollar he drank the red bulls and used the secret air horn at 2AM. Wonder where he got such an idea.
 
2013-10-31 04:32:31 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: To be fair, in this guy's home culture, 12 is not really considered too young for molesting.


As long as you can outrun her dad... and uncles... brothers... cousins.... lots and lots of cousins....

\Guy I know at 22 knocked up a 16 year old Peruvian girl who was working at the store he was managing.
\\Married her,  Dad was somehow okay with that.
\\Shrugs
 
2013-10-31 04:37:45 AM

doglover: Volunteers are basically the LAST people you should trust kids with.

Pedophiles, by definition, like kids. So while almost no volunteers are pedophiles, all pedophiles will be volunteers when kids are involved.

What you need to do is find the person who kinda hates kids, but is professional enough to keep them from being eaten by wolves or something, and get them to watch over them. Functional Alcoholic Uncle With Long Term Girlfriend or Likes Animals More Than People Lady are good choices. So good, in fact, they're probably busy or wise to the scam. Doesn't Want To Do It Dad is usually available and Spoil Em All Granny, too. They're your best bets.


I believe there is a flaw in your cunning plan. Ever notice how all those outspoken anti-gay folk tend to be caught with half naked men whom they're trying to convert? Yeah, I'm gonna guess the same thing tends to happen with anyone who has open disdain for kids.
 
2013-10-31 05:01:27 AM

optikeye: At least they charged the guy with a crime and the organization didn't tell the parents "no, problem we will handle it internally don't call the cops" and transfer the dude to another parish where he repeats the same thing.


So what? In the immortal words of Chris Rock...

"That's what you're supposed to do!"
 
2013-10-31 05:04:11 AM

Ronin_S: optikeye: At least they charged the guy with a crime and the organization didn't tell the parents "no, problem we will handle it internally don't call the cops" and transfer the dude to another parish where he repeats the same thing.

So what? In the immortal words of Chris Rock...

"That's what you're supposed to do!"


He's my favorite comedian on that subject!

"Man, I aint never been to jail!"

"What do you want, a cookie?! You're not supposed to go to jail, you low expectation motherfarker!"
 
2013-10-31 05:11:16 AM

DarkSoulNoHope: Ronin_S: optikeye: At least they charged the guy with a crime and the organization didn't tell the parents "no, problem we will handle it internally don't call the cops" and transfer the dude to another parish where he repeats the same thing.

So what? In the immortal words of Chris Rock...

"That's what you're supposed to do!"

He's my favorite comedian on that subject!

"Man, I aint never been to jail!"

"What do you want, a cookie?! You're not supposed to go to jail, you low expectation motherfarker!"


I take care of MY kids!
 
2013-10-31 05:59:17 AM
Dude, there were nine of them.
 
2013-10-31 06:12:39 AM
church + molesting girls = Does not compute
 
2013-10-31 06:54:16 AM

doglover: Pedophiles, by definition, like kids.


About as much as rapists, by definition, like women.
 
2013-10-31 07:15:23 AM

F-14Tomcat: Molested a  girl. That's odd.




/she had short hair, he was confused.
 
2013-10-31 07:26:43 AM
Well I for one am shocked to discover that a child abuser might have sought out a position of trust within a community to cover his actions.
 
2013-10-31 08:00:03 AM
It's ok. He said "the sinner's prayer" so he's forgiven now.

We're good, right?
 
2013-10-31 08:11:37 AM

neongoats: I mean, at this point in history, if you want to elevate the risk of your kids being molested exponentially, be religious.


OMFG THIS.

Not really a CSS, but relevant:

I was 15 when I caught our children's church pastor molesting a little girl in the kitchen. All the lights were off and I heard a noise so I turned the lights on to find him pulling this little girl's dress back down. He'd had it nearly over her head. I asked him what he was doing and he said she had a stomach ache and was getting her some coke. I asked why he needed to pull her dress up in the dark in order to get her some coke. He just kept saying she had a stomach ache. I was creeped the fark out and I had no idea what to do. I didn't know who the little girl was or where her parents were. So I went back to tell my youth group friends what happened. They said I should report him to the pastor. So I did, and the pastor called me a liar and a Jezebel and indicated I was no longer welcome at the church. I don't know how, but he made me feel ashamed of myself and it was years before I was able to talk about the incident with anybody else. And I never went back to that church or any church.

Years later I was living overseas and I called my parents pretty regularly to check on them. One time my dad asked if I was taking my (then 5yo) daughter to church and I told him no. He responded by saying that she *needs* to go to church and that I shouldn't take my daughter to Hell with me. I don't remember exactly what I told him after that but it involved profanity and knocking the phone off the desk. I was too angry to explain to him that I was protecting my daughter from pedophilia and brainwashing by not taking her to church.
 
2013-10-31 08:29:40 AM
Wow kinda sad
 
2013-10-31 08:30:37 AM

Via Infinito: neongoats: I mean, at this point in history, if you want to elevate the risk of your kids being molested exponentially, be religious.

OMFG THIS.

Not really a CSS, but relevant:

I was 15 when I caught our children's church pastor molesting a little girl in the kitchen. All the lights were off and I heard a noise so I turned the lights on to find him pulling this little girl's dress back down. He'd had it nearly over her head. I asked him what he was doing and he said she had a stomach ache and was getting her some coke. I asked why he needed to pull her dress up in the dark in order to get her some coke. He just kept saying she had a stomach ache. I was creeped the fark out and I had no idea what to do. I didn't know who the little girl was or where her parents were. So I went back to tell my youth group friends what happened. They said I should report him to the pastor. So I did, and the pastor called me a liar and a Jezebel and indicated I was no longer welcome at the church. I don't know how, but he made me feel ashamed of myself and it was years before I was able to talk about the incident with anybody else. And I never went back to that church or any church.

Years later I was living overseas and I called my parents pretty regularly to check on them. One time my dad asked if I was taking my (then 5yo) daughter to church and I told him no. He responded by saying that she *needs* to go to church and that I shouldn't take my daughter to Hell with me. I don't remember exactly what I told him after that but it involved profanity and knocking the phone off the desk. I was too angry to explain to him that I was protecting my daughter from pedophilia and brainwashing by not taking her to church.


That first part should be in the scary story thread (except for the part about your never going back to a church), but your daughter is lucky to have you for a Mom.
 
2013-10-31 09:01:10 AM

DrPainMD: unlikely: Who can you trust?

I dunno... how about "people who are able to tell right from wrong without threat of the wrath of an imaginary sky fairy that they may or may not only be pretending to believe in" ... I think that's where I'd start looking.

This is a country where people who travel halfway around the world to slaughter innocent brown people are called "hero." Don't expect many to be able to tell right from wrong.


Show us on the doll where the scary soldier touched you.
 
2013-10-31 09:01:52 AM

neongoats: I mean, at this point in history, if you want to elevate the risk of your kids being molested exponentially, be religious.


I was trying to find the stat that pointed out much of child sexual abuse was done by family members. Didn't see that stat, but saw sonething else that is really sad: 1 in 5 girls and 1 in 20 boys are the victim of sexual abuse. Really? I just would not have guessed the reported incidents are so high. Tragic situation.


http://www.victimsofcrime.org/media/reporting-on-child-sexual-abuse/c h ild-sexual-abuse-statistics
 
2013-10-31 09:30:08 AM
I expected it to be a woman. Usually male child molesters go after boys (or so I thought).
 
2013-10-31 09:36:41 AM
He admitted it in a sting on the phone with a 9 yr old girl.  What could they have talked about?
 
2013-10-31 09:47:43 AM
[Nine]-year-olds, dude.
 
2013-10-31 09:50:26 AM
The simple rules at the church where I was the children's pastor:
1. background check EVERY volunteer...refresh that background check every 5 years
2. ALWAYS have more than 1 volunteer with a room of kids
3. all doors have a glass window that should NEVER be covered
4. a staff member walks the halls checking in every room ALL the time
5. don't touch a kid in a way you wouldn't want their angry 300 pound father seeing
6. if I suspect something going on...you're done volunteering...FOREVER
7. I am required by the state of Ohio to report abuse of ANY kind

Good leadership prevents 99% of the idiots preying on kids
 
2013-10-31 09:53:26 AM
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2013-10-31 10:25:12 AM

offmymeds: Definitely not your local youth minister.

img.fark.net

A 33-year-old Huntington youth pastor was arrested Monday on charges he fondled a 10-year-old girl in his apartment at the Good Shepherd Church last summer.


www.hotflick.net

"My name is The Plauge."
 
2013-10-31 11:13:06 AM
doglover:

 Where did little Billy get an air horn and three red bulls? I dunno, but I bet you a dollar he drank the red bulls and used the secret air horn at 2AM. Wonder where he got such an idea.

Don't look at me, I told him to toot his horn in church.
 
2013-10-31 11:15:05 AM
You can trust catholic priests to only molest boys.
 
2013-10-31 11:51:07 AM
"Behold, I send you out as sheep among wolves .. holy shiat, wolves! Get your guns boys! We got some killing to do .."
 
2013-10-31 02:05:40 PM

ManthonyHiggs: You can always trust uncles.



Hey my niece is 14 and I wouldi.imgur.com but I don't and do not even try to, because it is wrong so you can trust me.
 
2013-10-31 05:02:58 PM

Fafai: That first part should be in the scary story thread (except for the part about your never going back to a church), but your daughter is lucky to have you for a Mom.


Thank you for saying that.
 
2013-10-31 05:03:07 PM
Meh, people who work for or attend church condone child molestation and rape. It's sad, but what can you expect from people who were abused as children and learned to love the abuse. Indoctrination into religion is child abuse.
 
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