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2013-10-30 08:29:30 PM  
That's all they charged him with?

/how about aggravated assault?
 
2013-10-30 08:39:51 PM  
Aren't policemen taught not to throw drunk people into their cells hard enough to break their faces?
It seems like that kind of stuff should be covered at the academy, but maybe that's just me.
 
2013-10-30 08:57:21 PM  
I feel bad for the person who leaked the video if the Blue Line ever discovers their identity.
 
2013-10-30 10:19:08 PM  

Via Infinito: It seems like that kind of stuff should be covered at the academy, but maybe that's just me.

during a psych evaluation.
 
2013-10-30 10:39:29 PM  
They haven't charged the guy because it's all over the internet, they charged him because the victim just filed a lawsuit.

/expect them to settle, pointing to the indictment of the officer as proof of their recalcitrance
//once it's settled, a totally non-biased judge will dismiss all charges against the guy and allow him to continue working
///after he's given a few months of paid leave because of the stress
 
2013-10-30 11:02:18 PM  

itsdan: Via Infinito: It seems like that kind of stuff should be covered at the academy, but maybe that's just me. during a psych evaluation.


Cops aren't hired. The city/county/state just fails to eliminate them in the hiring process

/at least in the majority of departments
//subtle but important difference
 
2013-10-30 11:02:48 PM  
 
2013-10-31 01:49:22 AM  

basemetal: That's all they charged him with?

/how about aggravated assault?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cAKc5VPfQ7Q #t =109 
time coded to right before he assaults her

HOLY fark
THIS ASSHOLE NEEDS TO SPEND SOME HARD TIME IN prison

ASSHOLE
 
2013-10-31 01:57:00 AM  

2wolves: I feel bad for the person who leaked the video if the Blue Line ever discovers their identity.


Maybe anonymous could dig up some more dirt on this asshole. There is NO WAY in the universe that this is the first time.
ASSHOLE
 
2013-10-31 04:59:33 AM  
Incarceration is such a ridiculous, ineffective, expensive method of punishment. We'd all be better off if we went back to restitution for the victim and maybe public floggings.
 
2013-10-31 05:03:53 AM  
You know, the first time I watched it, on the small YouTube player, I thought maybe he'd shoved her pretty hard into the cell, but that the fact that she was drunk and was walking around in her socks may have contributed to how bad it looked.

After watching it full screen, there is no way.  Being drunk, even being drunk and belligerent (which she didn't appear to be, at least outwardly) doesn't warrant being thrown in that manner.  I'm guessing she went a little dead weight going back into the cell, or said something that the officer took offense to, and he totally lost his shiat.

Fire the officer, charge him criminally, and pay out a heft lawsuit settlement without even a hint of defending the officer, just open up the checkbook and ask her how many zeroes she wants.

I'd love to be the cop who locked this thumb dick coward up.
 
2013-10-31 05:13:02 AM  
I oftentimes disagree with the cophate on Fark, but I'm going to join in on the public flogging on this one.  This guy doesn't deserve to not have a badge.  He deserves to be in prison.
 
2013-10-31 05:18:38 AM  
The only reason we're even talking about this is because a male cop broke the face of an attractive white woman.
 
2013-10-31 05:36:03 AM  
Dust his cock with iron filings and cram it through a hole punched through a microwave door.
 
2013-10-31 05:39:31 AM  
Paging Cruiser12.

/Actually like Crusier12.
 
2013-10-31 05:45:15 AM  

SearchN: Paging Cruiser12.

/Actually like Crusier12.


And darch.  Most down-to-earth and rational cop I've met on Fark.

/I have little doubt both will say something along the lines of "yep, this is exactly how not to do it."
 
2013-10-31 05:52:56 AM  

yukichigai: And darch. Most down-to-earth and rational cop I've met on Fark.

/I have little doubt both will say something along the lines of "yep, this is exactly how not to do it."


I've been a cop for 14 years, and this sickens me.

The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems.  Not dashcams.  Personal video recording systems.  I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops.
 
2013-10-31 05:57:58 AM  

lewismarktwo: The only reason we're even talking about this is because a male cop broke the face of an attractive white woman.


i2.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-31 05:58:34 AM  
Why give up to a cop if this is how your going to be treated.
 
2013-10-31 06:01:58 AM  

Maybe you should drive: yukichigai: And darch. Most down-to-earth and rational cop I've met on Fark.

/I have little doubt both will say something along the lines of "yep, this is exactly how not to do it."

I've been a cop for 14 years, and this sickens me.

The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems.  Not dashcams.  Personal video recording systems.  I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops.


In this day and age man, there is no reason what so ever not to have a tamper proof video recording device on LEO's. Good on your department for doing it, but it needs to be widespread and again, tamper proof.

/Will protect the LEO's as much as it does everyone else.
//Yea, I know, pipe dream.
 
2013-10-31 06:04:01 AM  
was placed on paid administrative leave on Wednesday while the village continues its investigation.  until charges are reduced or thrown out entirely

/fixed that for them
//but he gets a nice vacation until he gets his job back
 
2013-10-31 06:07:28 AM  

Maybe you should drive: The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems. Not dashcams. Personal video recording systems. I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops.


So why do the cops always fight it when a town wants to implement pvrs saying it's going to hinder them?
 
2013-10-31 06:09:40 AM  

SearchN: Maybe you should drive: yukichigai: And darch. Most down-to-earth and rational cop I've met on Fark.

/I have little doubt both will say something along the lines of "yep, this is exactly how not to do it."

I've been a cop for 14 years, and this sickens me.

The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems.  Not dashcams.  Personal video recording systems.  I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops.

In this day and age man, there is no reason what so ever not to have a tamper proof video recording device on LEO's. Good on your department for doing it, but it needs to be widespread and again, tamper proof.

/Will protect the LEO's as much as it does everyone else.
//Yea, I know, pipe dream.


Don't worry, I'm sure any footage they didn't want to get out there would mysteriously go missing, like dash-cam videos do.
 
2013-10-31 06:19:42 AM  
When I was in youth training back in the day (never ended up going to the academy -- got a PhD. instead) every cop I rode with taught me how to "cage" someone.  Sit them in the back of the patrol car juuuust right, and forget to put on their seat belt, so that on the way home you could lock up the brakes to "avoid a deer" in the road.  If you did it right, you could break their nose and cheekbones, and even a couple of teeth as a bonus.  And all in the name of "Safe Driving".

I'm so happy I never ended up becoming a cop.
 
2013-10-31 06:20:42 AM  

untaken_name: SearchN: Maybe you should drive: yukichigai: And darch. Most down-to-earth and rational cop I've met on Fark.

/I have little doubt both will say something along the lines of "yep, this is exactly how not to do it."

I've been a cop for 14 years, and this sickens me.

The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems.  Not dashcams.  Personal video recording systems.  I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops.

In this day and age man, there is no reason what so ever not to have a tamper proof video recording device on LEO's. Good on your department for doing it, but it needs to be widespread and again, tamper proof.

/Will protect the LEO's as much as it does everyone else.
//Yea, I know, pipe dream.

Don't worry, I'm sure any footage they didn't want to get out there would mysteriously go missing, like dash-cam videos do.


As I said, tamper proof. There is a reason I have a program on my cell that instantly uploads video to youtube then blasts it out to the few thousand people I talk to if needed.
 
2013-10-31 06:22:24 AM  

abhorrent1: Maybe you should drive: The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems. Not dashcams. Personal video recording systems. I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops.

So why do the cops always fight it when a town wants to implement pvrs saying it's going to hinder them?


I don't think there's a singular reason, but I would imagine most people, whatever their line or work, would be against having a camera on their shoulder recording what they do at all moments of the day.  I would imagine that if I owned a computer software business and told my employees I was going to implement a PVRS I would probably lose some employees.  People like knowing they can talk shiat about their bosses, or have a conversation with their spouse, or just generally scratch their nuts without having it all on camera.

When my department brought up the PVRS, I was one of the biggest skeptics.  I remember joking about how I would purposely video myself taking a shiat as a joke.  But what most of us found was that the PVRS did two jobs we wanted.  It weeded out a handful of shiatty cops and it proved we had done nothing wrong when we knew we had not.  I work in a large agency and I literally only know of a couple guys who are still against the cameras.  The rest of us get pissed when ours are not working properly.
 
2013-10-31 06:24:47 AM  

SearchN: untaken_name: SearchN: Maybe you should drive: yukichigai: And darch. Most down-to-earth and rational cop I've met on Fark.

/I have little doubt both will say something along the lines of "yep, this is exactly how not to do it."

I've been a cop for 14 years, and this sickens me.

The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems.  Not dashcams.  Personal video recording systems.  I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops.

In this day and age man, there is no reason what so ever not to have a tamper proof video recording device on LEO's. Good on your department for doing it, but it needs to be widespread and again, tamper proof.

/Will protect the LEO's as much as it does everyone else.
//Yea, I know, pipe dream.

Don't worry, I'm sure any footage they didn't want to get out there would mysteriously go missing, like dash-cam videos do.

As I said, tamper proof. There is a reason I have a program on my cell that instantly uploads video to youtube then blasts it out to the few thousand people I talk to if needed.


Except that, given the fact that dash-cam videos are not tamper-proof, it's unlikely that any new technology adopted by police will be, either. Oh, the cameras might be always-on or give some kind of signal or alarm if they're messed with, but the video itself? That's going to be police property, so it can get "lost" when it needs to. Even if it auto-streams to some internet site. Then it will just be "oh our secure tamper-proof internet video site just glitched and deleted that particular video and no others. Whoops!"
 
2013-10-31 06:27:33 AM  

untaken_name: SearchN: Maybe you should drive: yukichigai: And darch. Most down-to-earth and rational cop I've met on Fark.

/I have little doubt both will say something along the lines of "yep, this is exactly how not to do it."

I've been a cop for 14 years, and this sickens me.

The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems.  Not dashcams.  Personal video recording systems.  I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops.

In this day and age man, there is no reason what so ever not to have a tamper proof video recording device on LEO's. Good on your department for doing it, but it needs to be widespread and again, tamper proof.

/Will protect the LEO's as much as it does everyone else.
//Yea, I know, pipe dream.

Don't worry, I'm sure any footage they didn't want to get out there would mysteriously go missing, like dash-cam videos do.


I figure there should be a reg that states that in any circumstance where personal cam footage went "missing", in use-of-force case, that fact should be useable in court against the officer.  And on the other side, if there was a personal cam taking footage which could have exonerated a perp, and the footage went "missing", that fact, too, should be told to the jury.  In both situations they juries should be told they can make up their own minds about the mysteriously missing evidence.
 
2013-10-31 06:29:29 AM  

SearchN: untaken_name: SearchN: Maybe you should drive: yukichigai: And darch. Most down-to-earth and rational cop I've met on Fark.

/I have little doubt both will say something along the lines of "yep, this is exactly how not to do it."

I've been a cop for 14 years, and this sickens me.

The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems.  Not dashcams.  Personal video recording systems.  I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops.

In this day and age man, there is no reason what so ever not to have a tamper proof video recording device on LEO's. Good on your department for doing it, but it needs to be widespread and again, tamper proof.

/Will protect the LEO's as much as it does everyone else.
//Yea, I know, pipe dream.

Don't worry, I'm sure any footage they didn't want to get out there would mysteriously go missing, like dash-cam videos do.

As I said, tamper proof. There is a reason I have a program on my cell that instantly uploads video to youtube then blasts it out to the few thousand people I talk to if needed.


Which program?  The one I was using stopped working, and I want to always have a one-touch solution for recording incidents between myself and LEOs.
 
2013-10-31 06:30:42 AM  

untaken_name: SearchN: untaken_name: SearchN: Maybe you should drive: yukichigai: And darch. Most down-to-earth and rational cop I've met on Fark.

/I have little doubt both will say something along the lines of "yep, this is exactly how not to do it."

I've been a cop for 14 years, and this sickens me.

The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems.  Not dashcams.  Personal video recording systems.  I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops.

In this day and age man, there is no reason what so ever not to have a tamper proof video recording device on LEO's. Good on your department for doing it, but it needs to be widespread and again, tamper proof.

/Will protect the LEO's as much as it does everyone else.
//Yea, I know, pipe dream.

Don't worry, I'm sure any footage they didn't want to get out there would mysteriously go missing, like dash-cam videos do.

As I said, tamper proof. There is a reason I have a program on my cell that instantly uploads video to youtube then blasts it out to the few thousand people I talk to if needed.

Except that, given the fact that dash-cam videos are not tamper-proof, it's unlikely that any new technology adopted by police will be, either. Oh, the cameras might be always-on or give some kind of signal or alarm if they're messed with, but the video itself? That's going to be police property, so it can get "lost" when it needs to. Even if it auto-streams to some internet site. Then it will just be "oh our secure tamper-proof internet video site just glitched and deleted that particular video and no others. Whoops!"


True, it could happen.. Flip side though, everyone is viewing what happened in this instance. This video could easily have been 'lost'.
 
2013-10-31 06:32:40 AM  

dahmers love zombie: When I was in youth training back in the day (never ended up going to the academy -- got a PhD. instead) every cop I rode with taught me how to "cage" someone. Sit them in the back of the patrol car juuuust right, and forget to put on their seat belt, so that on the way home you could lock up the brakes to "avoid a deer" in the road. If you did it right, you could break their nose and cheekbones, and even a couple of teeth as a bonus. And all in the name of "Safe Driving".

I'm so happy I never ended up becoming a cop.


I had a full scholarship to a masters program at a well respected university in Southern California in 1998-99.  I was disenfranchised with the program and was furious with what I was seeing in the papers regarding Rampart.  I decided to leave the program to become a cop.  And I did, although not with the agency I had originally applied with.

If I had seen what you are talking about I would have probably chosen a different route.  It makes me wonder where you are referring to.
 
2013-10-31 06:33:23 AM  
dahmers love zombie:

Let me speak to the dev, personal friend, not sure if he want's it out there. I'll let you know.

/Android only at the moment.
 
2013-10-31 06:35:00 AM  

SearchN: True, it could happen.. Flip side though, everyone is viewing what happened in this instance. This video could easily have been 'lost'.


Good point.
 
2013-10-31 06:39:13 AM  
Where's Anonymous on this?
 
2013-10-31 06:44:03 AM  

Slayinit: Where's Anonymous on this?


Why would they need to get in on this? Videos already out as is the outrage over it. Let those assholes stay in the dark quite corner they live in.
 
2013-10-31 06:59:43 AM  
I would love to see the report after this. I am guessing every other cop there backed up his story, and whent he video inevitiabely shows him and all his cop friends were lying, no punishment for them.
 
2013-10-31 07:04:47 AM  

Maybe you should drive: The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems. Not dashcams. Personal video recording systems. I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops


I wish more of your brethren were like you.
 
2013-10-31 07:15:16 AM  

liam76: Maybe you should drive: The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems. Not dashcams. Personal video recording systems. I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops

I wish more of your brethren were like you.


Makes a lot of us man, but he used the dirty words.

Internal Affairs, as TV has taught everyone, those guys are just jerks trying to stop the guy that's trying to stop the suicide bomber from targeting the White House or hitting the United Nations.

/Sorry, couldn't resist.
//Hi NSA.
//Dicks.
 
2013-10-31 07:15:41 AM  
He was just giving her a literal demonstration of the injuries that could be sustained in a drunken driving wreck.
What if she HAD been involved in an accident and maybe hurt an innocent family?
Would be all sorts of different outrage here, I'm sure.
 
2013-10-31 07:17:59 AM  

RayD8: He was just giving her a literal demonstration of the injuries that could be sustained in a drunken driving wreck.
What if she HAD been involved in an accident and maybe hurt an innocent family?
Would be all sorts of different outrage here, I'm sure.


Come on man, I know its getting a bit late where you are but you can do so much better.

/Listen to your fark training on trolling.
//Even if unsaid, we all pride ourselve's on it.
 
2013-10-31 07:22:32 AM  

yukichigai: SearchN: Paging Cruiser12.

/Actually like Crusier12.

And darch.  Most down-to-earth and rational cop I've met on Fark.

/I have little doubt both will say something along the lines of "yep, this is exactly how not to do it."


I have little doubt Cruiser12 will add something like "...but we don't know what she did to provoke him. Cops are people too, and she probably said something about his momma that made him mad."
 
2013-10-31 07:22:46 AM  

liam76: Maybe you should drive: The best thing my department ever did was to go to personal video recording systems. Not dashcams. Personal video recording systems. I used to work internal affairs, and I'm convinced that the personal video recording systems kept marginal cops in line and proved the good cops were indeed good cops

I wish more of your brethren were like you.


I appreciate that.  I really do.  Having said that, I do think there are more of us than you might realize.  Most cops, even shiatty cops, just want to go home at the end of the day and watch the game or go the gym or drink beer or make dinner or do any of the typical things most people do when they go home.

I'm going to show this video in briefing in the next week or two. I already know the reception I'm going to get.  But I think it's important for cops to see other cops fark up sometimes.
 
2013-10-31 07:25:45 AM  

fredklein: yukichigai: SearchN: Paging Cruiser12.

/Actually like Crusier12.

And darch.  Most down-to-earth and rational cop I've met on Fark.

/I have little doubt both will say something along the lines of "yep, this is exactly how not to do it."

I have little doubt Cruiser12 will add something like "...but we don't know what she did to provoke him. Cops are people too, and she probably said something about his momma that made him mad."


Apparently you don't know C12 that well.
 
2013-10-31 07:27:08 AM  
Cop shoves woman into cell after she has a difficult time looking into the camera.
Woman hits side of face on cement and collapses on floor
Cops come in to check on the damage
Concerned cop goes out for help
Cop fixes her shoes (OCD?)
 
2013-10-31 07:28:48 AM  

SearchN: As I said, tamper proof.


How does a 'tamper-proof' camera stop a cop from putting his hand over the lens? Or 'accidentally' losing it while chasing a suspect?
 
2013-10-31 07:28:54 AM  
charged != convicted

Of course they'll 'charge' him while all this is in the public eye, but in 6 months when this quiets down, charges get dropped.
 
2013-10-31 07:32:39 AM  

fredklein: How does a 'tamper-proof' camera stop a cop from putting his hand over the lens? Or 'accidentally' losing it while chasing a suspect?


It doesn't, but as someone who hates the police I would think you would be in favor of these cameras.
 
2013-10-31 07:52:06 AM  

fredklein: SearchN: As I said, tamper proof.

How does a 'tamper-proof' camera stop a cop from putting his hand over the lens? Or 'accidentally' losing it while chasing a suspect?


That is a hell of a question.
 
2013-10-31 07:52:37 AM  
Charged?

Let me now when he's locked in a cell of his own, getting up the bunghole by Schillinger.

insight218.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-31 08:00:09 AM  

2wolves: I feel bad for the person who leaked the video if the Blue Line ever discovers their identity.


The woman's lawyer most likely got it as part of discovery for the law suit.
 
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