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(Sports Illustrated)   What are we talkin' bout? Retirement? We talkin' bout retirement, man. We talk... We talkin' bout retirement. We talkin' bout retirement. We ain't talkin' bout the game, we talkin' bout retirement, man   (nba.si.com) divider line 37
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2013-10-30 07:24:21 PM
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2013-10-30 07:57:06 PM
Welcome to 2007.
 
2013-10-30 08:09:35 PM
Sad tag? No. He's been done for years. What's sad is that he blew through hundreds of millions of dollars on crap. But to each their own.

/One of my favorite players ever mainly because I'm similar in height and weight as he, and if I tried to do what he did I'd be in the ICU after 1 game.
 
2013-10-30 08:19:34 PM
Playoffs?
 
2013-10-30 08:27:17 PM
He may not have invented thugball, but he took it to heights previously unseen. Good jorb
 
2013-10-30 08:29:16 PM

HaywoodJablonski: He may not have invented thugball, but he took it to heights previously unseen. Good jorb


He did play a lot of football in high school, but he never played for the NFL. So I am not sure what this statement is about.
 
2013-10-30 08:32:31 PM

Fallout Boy: HaywoodJablonski: He may not have invented thugball, but he took it to heights previously unseen. Good jorb

He did play a lot of football in high school, but he never played for the NFL. So I am not sure what this statement is about.


NBA basketball, aka Predetermined Thugball
 
2013-10-30 08:35:04 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Fallout Boy: HaywoodJablonski: He may not have invented thugball, but he took it to heights previously unseen. Good jorb

He did play a lot of football in high school, but he never played for the NFL. So I am not sure what this statement is about.

NBA basketball, aka Predetermined Thugball


I havent heard of that before, certainly not on this site. Tell me more about it.
 
2013-10-30 08:39:27 PM
In other news, Allen Iverson wasn't retired yet.
 
2013-10-30 08:40:18 PM

Fallout Boy: HaywoodJablonski: Fallout Boy: HaywoodJablonski: He may not have invented thugball, but he took it to heights previously unseen. Good jorb

He did play a lot of football in high school, but he never played for the NFL. So I am not sure what this statement is about.

NBA basketball, aka Predetermined Thugball

I havent heard of that before, certainly not on this site. Tell me more about it.


Certainly. It's predetermined because David Stern intentionally assigns corrupt referees to games to affect the outcome. Also, star players can do whatever they like with no repercussions. Thugball because too many surly, tattooed, uneducated hoodlums are given star treatment and way too much money
 
2013-10-30 08:42:37 PM
There are a lot of current and former players of his era who would be/should be sure fire HoF material if they had played half as hard as Iverson.

/looking at you Wince Carter
 
2013-10-30 08:48:54 PM
I hate David Stern just like everyone else, but I wouldnt go as far as call him and his refs thugs. Same goes for the people who are cutting the checks to the players and overpaying them, which seems to upset you so much.
 
2013-10-30 09:00:33 PM

Flappyhead: There are a lot of current and former players of his era who would be/should be sure fire HoF material if they had played half as hard as Iverson.

/looking at you Wince Carter


Thats a good point.  I loved watching Al in Denver and was sad when we traded him.  He was a ton fun to watch because he played with so much heart.  Luckily for the Nuggets it turns out he was not at all good at Basketball and was insanely inefficient and a big detriment to the team he was on.  Kind of like Melo.

I think he does deserve some credit for the rise of meta-stats in basketball.

I am really looking forward to Melo playing PF this year against guys his size.  It'll be Highlarity.  Plus with tthe expectations the owner is piling on this year and Melo's impending free agency could lead to a meltdown of epic proportions.
 
2013-10-30 09:08:10 PM
He's sitting in here, he's supposed to be FRANCHISE player? And we're in here talking about retirement? How THE HELL can he make his [imaginary] teammates better by retiring?
 
2013-10-30 09:10:19 PM

Flappyhead: There are a lot of current and former players of his era who would be/should be sure fire HoF material if they had played half as hard as Iverson.

/looking at you Wince Carter


And yet VC is still in the league and has transitioned well from the role of being a star to that of a veteran, while AI has been out of the league for years. If anything, AI has a lot to learn from VC, not the other way around.

/when it is all said and done, VC will very likely be a HoF as well
 
2013-10-30 09:23:45 PM
In other news, the current 76ers team is somehow leading the Heat in the 4Q.
 
2013-10-30 09:30:59 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Certainly. It's predetermined because David Stern intentionally assigns corrupt referees to games to affect the outcome. Also, star players can do whatever they like with no repercussions. Thugball because too many surly, tattooed, uneducated hoodlums are given star treatment and way too much money


It's gonna be one of those nights
Where people shiatpost
And talk about sports shows
Uh huh, uh huh
 
2013-10-30 09:42:38 PM

Joe_diGriz: In other news, the current 76ers team is somehow leading the Heat in the 4Q.


With the most brazen tanking attempt in recent history, I was more surprised that the Sixers coach didnt have all his players run out of the arena when they were up with minutes to go.
 
2013-10-30 09:54:48 PM

This Looks Fun: He's sitting in here, he's supposed to be FRANCHISE player? And we're in here talking about retirement? How THE HELL can he make his [imaginary] teammates better by retiring?


Not a game, not a game, not a game...
 
2013-10-30 10:08:52 PM
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2013-10-30 10:10:15 PM

Mike_LowELL: HaywoodJablonski: Certainly. It's predetermined because David Stern intentionally assigns corrupt referees to games to affect the outcome. Also, star players can do whatever they like with no repercussions. Thugball because too many surly, tattooed, uneducated hoodlums are given star treatment and way too much money

It's gonna be one of those nights
Where people shiatpost
And talk about sports shows
Uh huh, uh huh


I know, right?!
 
2013-10-30 10:16:29 PM

Fallout Boy: Flappyhead: There are a lot of current and former players of his era who would be/should be sure fire HoF material if they had played half as hard as Iverson.

/looking at you Wince Carter

And yet VC is still in the league and has transitioned well from the role of being a star to that of a veteran, while AI has been out of the league for years. If anything, AI has a lot to learn from VC, not the other way around.

/when it is all said and done, VC will very likely be a HoF as well


I learned a long time ago that "transitioning into a veteran presence" is code for never living up to potential and getting bounced from team to team in the latter half of a career until finding a nice warm spot on the bench for a team filling up roster spots.
 
2013-10-30 10:58:22 PM

Flappyhead: Fallout Boy: Flappyhead: There are a lot of current and former players of his era who would be/should be sure fire HoF material if they had played half as hard as Iverson.

/looking at you Wince Carter

And yet VC is still in the league and has transitioned well from the role of being a star to that of a veteran, while AI has been out of the league for years. If anything, AI has a lot to learn from VC, not the other way around.

/when it is all said and done, VC will very likely be a HoF as well

I learned a long time ago that "transitioning into a veteran presence" is code for never living up to potential and getting bounced from team to team in the latter half of a career until finding a nice warm spot on the bench for a team filling up roster spots.


Other than a few exceptions (your Kobes and Duncans), that is the ultimate fate for many stars in the league. Some ageing stars swallow their pride, accept their limited/bench roles and minutes and reinvent their game (since we are already talking VC, he reinvented himself as a reliable sixth-man shooter) in order to stay productive and in the league. Others, like AI, cant let go of their ego, dont want to come off the bench, think too highly of themselves, and think they can have the same game they had at 35 as they did at 25 and expect to be paid the same.

Yeah, it sucks to not live to your potential and to be a bench warmer being bounced around the league. Being out of the league and begging to get back in like these last few years for AI sucks more.
 
2013-10-30 11:36:09 PM
Oh, Donovan McNabb, were you paying attention? The reason that AI always got more love (even with his various issues) here is because he was often completely genuine in his feelings and words. He didn't have anywhere close to the persecution complex that you had (and still have), and he received tons of criticism for stuff that wasn't even game related.

His "I will die a Sixer" carried infinitely more sincerity and weight than "Number 5 will always love you!"
 
2013-10-31 04:48:15 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Fallout Boy: HaywoodJablonski: Fallout Boy: HaywoodJablonski: He may not have invented thugball, but he took it to heights previously unseen. Good jorb

He did play a lot of football in high school, but he never played for the NFL. So I am not sure what this statement is about.

NBA basketball, aka Predetermined Thugball

I havent heard of that before, certainly not on this site. Tell me more about it.

Certainly. It's predetermined because David Stern intentionally assigns corrupt referees to games to affect the outcome. Also, star players can do whatever they like with no repercussions. Thugball because too many surly, tattooed, uneducated hoodlums are given star treatment and way too much money


I like you.  I stopped watching the playoff run and Iverson was amazing to watch.  Larry Brown did a great job on being a father figure to him, then he left.  I remember when he won the MVP in the All-Star game and he was just looking for coach Brown to show him how proud he was.  I loved me some Iverson.
 
2013-10-31 07:13:02 AM

Flappyhead: There are a lot of current and former players of his era who would be/should be sure fire HoF material if they had played half as hard as Iverson.

/looking at you Wince Carter


He played hard, but didn't practice hard.  And it showed.  Once his speed declined a bit, he was just a ball-hogging, 5'11" two-guard with a terrible jump shot.  Normally a player like that would work on his shot more, or transition to point guard, but Iverson lacked that awareness and dedication.

Every pickup game has the quick little guy who every single play grabs the ball, drives full-speed into the lane and gets fouled by someone twice his size.  Iverson was probably the best at that to ever played the game.
 
2013-10-31 07:26:34 AM
If you haven't watched the 30 for 30 "No Crossover", watch it when you get a chance. It's good.
 
2013-10-31 08:34:40 AM
He made Georgetown fun then carried it over into the NBA. I'm not a fan of the NBA but follow it because I follow the other sports and well, anyways, really don't have a "team" so, I kinda follow players, I like Cleveland's kyrie irving, he's fun and he can shoot. Just saying, AI may have been a thug, but for a long time he was mesmerizing on the court.
 
2013-10-31 09:10:32 AM
I think I'm going to stop going to my job, and then - years later - send in a letter to my boss saying that I quit.

/meh
 
2013-10-31 09:34:08 AM
I like you.  I stopped watching the playoff run and Iverson was amazing to watch.  Larry Brown did a great job on being a father figure to him, then he left.  I remember when he won the MVP in the All-Star game and he was just looking for coach Brown to show him how proud he was.  I loved me some Iverson.

I must have erased most of my previous message somehow.  I was trying to say that I agree with your assessment of the NBA, and only recently have began to watch some games again. I used to watch any and all games, but now only watch the teams I have interest in.

In 2000 & 2001, I saved my money and paid to see a handful of playoff games and Iverson was just amazing.  This was still a time where the NBA still had some legitimate, classy stars.  The draft in which Iverson was taken was sort of the changing of the "guard" era. Dunks meant more than defense to many players, but not AI.  Players began to act like thugs off the court and on, plain and simple (see Ron Artest).  You can't really blame some athletes that grew up in slums and were just trying to get out.  You throw a couple a million bucks at someone that has never had a dime and see what happens, and they are basically impune to all laws as well

Basketball is the cheapest game to play, and you have to be tough to play in those neighborhoods.  So many several thugish acts had  become commonplace within the NBA, as the bar or standard had been dropped.  Other players will follow the leader, not become one.  Ray Allen is still one of the classier players in the league, a fossil playing hard amongst children.  His shot speaks louder than many of voice.

Although I really hate Lebron James, I will say that he defines the word arrogance, and deserve it.  He is the most athletic player in the NBA, but doesn't have that killer instinct.  CAn you learn a killer mentality?  I would say that it would be difficult.  Did anyone see the highlights of the Sixers game last night?  Jordan would not have allowed the 76ers back in the game.  He is still living in other great players shadows.

Also, if you are going to make the argument that 1 or 2 wins do not matter, you are a huge fool.  They do at the end of the season, especially if a team is trying to get home court advantage.  I am talking to you Lebron.  He has to go places to get championships to pad his soon to be legacy.

BTW, after seeing Lebron's new Samsung commercial, I just would like to say that his hair doesn't look so bad and don't understand why people are getting on his case.  I do like seeing him insecure, and all the talk helps.  Did he get plugs in the offseason?
 
2013-10-31 09:40:19 AM
A bunch of farkers think that "tatooed thugs" don't deserve money.

/This is my SHOCKED face
 
2013-10-31 09:50:22 AM
This headline is everything I hoped for.  That is all.

/I mean . . .we talkin' 'bout PRACTICE.
 
2013-10-31 10:10:09 AM
What's next, Rickey Henderson retiring?
 
2013-10-31 11:13:25 AM

Joe_diGriz: Oh, Donovan McNabb, were you paying attention? The reason that AI always got more love (even with his various issues) here is because he was often completely genuine in his feelings and words. He didn't have anywhere close to the persecution complex that you had (and still have), and he received tons of criticism for stuff that wasn't even game related.

His "I will die a Sixer" carried infinitely more sincerity and weight than "Number 5 will always love you!"


Bahahahaha, you think AI was genuine.  You must think strippers actually like you.
 
2013-10-31 11:34:21 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: A bunch of farkers one farker thinks that "tatooed thugs" don't deserve money.

/This is my SHOCKED face


Is it just hard to read the computer screen from your place on the cross?
 
2013-10-31 11:49:48 AM

catzies: This Looks Fun: He's sitting in here, he's supposed to be FRANCHISE player? And we're in here talking about retirement? How THE HELL can he make his [imaginary] teammates better by retiring?

Not a game, not a game, not a game...


WE TALKIN 'BOUT RETIREMENT

One of my favorite sports-rants ever & I feel as if it doesn't get as much love as it should, evidenced by the way I have to explain myself IRL when I reference it. :(

RangerTaylor: This headline is everything I hoped for.  That is all.

/I mean . . .we talkin' 'bout PRACTICE.


It could not have been anything else.
 
2013-10-31 12:39:17 PM

Joe_diGriz: His "I will die a Sixer" carried infinitely more sincerity and weight than "Number 5 will always love you!"


Whenever I'm feeling sad and alone I remember that #5 will always love me and then I fall into a fit of giggly laughter.
 
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