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1521 clicks; posted to Sports » on 30 Oct 2013 at 4:44 PM (2 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-10-30 01:52:29 PM  
This will be VERY awkward when the Redskins win their next SuperHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I'm sorry! I couldn't finish that with a straight face! XD
 
2013-10-30 02:37:25 PM  
Indeed, subby!  Let us break out the blessed Maple Vodak in celebration of our Lord and Savior!  :D


/BELIEVE IN REDACTED
 
2013-10-30 03:24:20 PM  
Yay, another journalism outlet with a political perspective. How about report the news, unfiltered?
 
2013-10-30 03:44:47 PM  
I'm so sick of this sh*t. This "Oneida" tribe (aren't they a brand of silverware?) are the only tribe I hear complaining about the team name. Apaches, Navajo's and others say they are fine with it. Several Native American schools even have their team name as -- wait for it -- REDSKINS!!!! So before they start boycotting and complaining about the Washington Redskins they need to start boycotting and complaining about themselves.
 
2013-10-30 03:53:21 PM  
This all boils down to a simple idea:

'Redskins' is a racial slur used to refer to Native Americans.  Always has been.  Times may have changed, but the root of the name is still the same slur that it was on day one.

Maybe only one tribe cares anymore.  That's their right, though it's sad to see that more tribes just whistle past this.

But, ig nore them for a second, and focus on society at large.  We would not tolerate a sports franchise to bear the names of any of the many racial slurs that target Asians, Mexicans, Blacks, Arabs, etc.  We would all insist that the names be changed immediately, regardless of how long they had been in use.

So, why is this situation any different?
 
2013-10-30 03:55:11 PM  

Walker: I'm so sick of this sh*t. This "Oneida" tribe (aren't they a brand of silverware?) are the only tribe I hear complaining about the team name. Apaches, Navajo's and others say they are fine with it. Several Native American schools even have their team name as -- wait for it -- REDSKINS!!!! So before they start boycotting and complaining about the Washington Redskins they need to start boycotting and complaining about themselves.


Your argument is remarkably similar to "Rappers use the N-word, why can't I?"
 
2013-10-30 03:57:14 PM  

Walker: I'm so sick of this sh*t. This "Oneida" tribe (aren't they a brand of silverware?) are the only tribe I hear complaining about the team name. Apaches, Navajo's and others say they are fine with it. Several Native American schools even have their team name as -- wait for it -- REDSKINS!!!! So before they start boycotting and complaining about the Washington Redskins they need to start boycotting and complaining about themselves.



Please tell me you're just trolling.
 
2013-10-30 03:59:26 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Yay, another journalism outlet with a political perspective. How about report the news, unfiltered?


Do you also have a problem with them not using the n-word?
 
2013-10-30 04:00:38 PM  

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Yay, another journalism outlet with a political perspective. How about report the news, unfiltered?

Do you also have a problem with them not using the n-word?


Yes
 
2013-10-30 04:03:54 PM  
Just do the teeniest bit of research on George Preston Marshall, who named the team, and you'll find the problem. In 1933, the nazis adopted "seig heil" as their salute. It means "hail victory." Marshall liked it so much he penned it into the Redskins fight song in 1937. It only gets worse from there.
 
2013-10-30 04:04:35 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: The RIchest Man in Babylon: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Yay, another journalism outlet with a political perspective. How about report the news, unfiltered?

Do you also have a problem with them not using the n-word?

Yes


Lucky for you, you can still get your news from Stormfront.
 
2013-10-30 04:04:37 PM  
I like the Washington [REDACTED], our mascot can be a large black bar. The box score for each game could be blacked out, and no one can know our schedule in advance. Every player would be required to wear eyeblack, write something on it, then put more eyeblack over it so no one can read it. We'd also have a huge advantage over other teams, because we'd bug their locker rooms for their security.
 
2013-10-30 04:06:08 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: The RIchest Man in Babylon: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Yay, another journalism outlet with a political perspective. How about report the news, unfiltered?

Do you also have a problem with them not using the n-word?

Yes


Well, at least you're consistent!
 
2013-10-30 04:07:55 PM  
Huh, I was going to comment on how awful the comments to the TFA were and then I got here.
 
2013-10-30 04:12:47 PM  

ginandbacon: Huh, I was going to comment on how awful the comments to the TFA were and then I got here.



ITT:  Not using the n-word is a political agenda.

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2013-10-30 04:19:02 PM  

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Contrabulous Flabtraption: The RIchest Man in Babylon: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Yay, another journalism outlet with a political perspective. How about report the news, unfiltered?

Do you also have a problem with them not using the n-word?

Yes

Well, at least you're consistent!


I'm an advocate of the news being reported without censorship. The "n-word" ploy is just like Louis CK says - it makes the reader say it in their head. It doesn't make the word not exist, it just makes the person using "n-word" feel better.
 
2013-10-30 04:19:16 PM  

The RIchest Man in Babylon: ginandbacon: Huh, I was going to comment on how awful the comments to the TFA were and then I got here.


ITT:  Not using the n-word is a political agenda.

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Yeah, I never knew what an agenda I and so many others had.
 
2013-10-30 04:38:08 PM  
Hey, is this another thread where I can call people racist and feel better about myself?

"RACIST!!!"

/damn, it really does work
/I feel twice as better about myself than yesterday
 
2013-10-30 04:48:15 PM  

The RIchest Man in Babylon: ginandbacon: Huh, I was going to comment on how awful the comments to the TFA were and then I got here.


ITT:  Not using the n-word is a political agenda.

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They said they would use the word when discussing the controversy around its use.  They don't do that for the n-word.  Maybe they should break out r-word.  I don't think it's currently in use.
 
2013-10-30 04:49:18 PM  
They could just change their name to Washington Loses so they can save headline space.
 
2013-10-30 04:50:48 PM  

Walker: I'm so sick of this sh*t. This "Oneida" tribe (aren't they a brand of silverware?) are the only tribe I hear complaining about the team name. Apaches, Navajo's and others say they are fine with it. Several Native American schools even have their team name as -- wait for it -- REDSKINS!!!! So before they start boycotting and complaining about the Washington Redskins they need to start boycotting and complaining about themselves.


Your research on this subject is just as good as Rick Reiley's.
 
2013-10-30 04:52:22 PM  
So...Redskins bad but Chiefs good? Indians bad but Blackhawks good?
 
2013-10-30 04:53:39 PM  
You know it might be time for a change when Charles Krauthammer suggests that you may be being a trifle insensitive.
 
2013-10-30 04:55:34 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: 'Redskins' is a racial slur used to refer to Native Americans. Always has been. Times may have changed, but the root of the name is still the same slur that it was on day one.



You have it backwards. It started out as a relatively neutral synonym for native american, and became a bigger slur as western expansion accelerated.
 
2013-10-30 05:01:16 PM  

dallylamma: So...Redskins bad but Chiefs good? Indians bad but Blackhawks good?


I have a ball. Perhaps you'd like to bounce it.
 
2013-10-30 05:02:54 PM  
This will all die down soon, and then we can all go back to not caring about the name.  Then in 3 or 4 years, people will get mad again, and the whole cycle will begin anew.  Same as it ever was.


I assume the Chronicle is also not going to print "Fighting Irish?" or are they cool with only being politically correct and tolerant when it suits them and their political agenda?
 
2013-10-30 05:02:56 PM  
What does this have to with Smiths?
 
2013-10-30 05:03:01 PM  

oh_please: Hey, is this another thread where I can call people racist and feel better about myself?

"RACIST!!!"

/damn, it really does work
/I feel twice as better about myself than yesterday


Speak English or GTFO!
 
2013-10-30 05:03:43 PM  
Came for the pictures of pretty cheerleaders in indian costumes....wait, what?
 
2013-10-30 05:06:41 PM  
Hail to the Porkins.
 
2013-10-30 05:06:46 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: This will all die down soon, and then we can all go back to not caring about the name.  Then in 3 or 4 years, people will get mad again, and the whole cycle will begin anew.  Same as it ever was.


I assume the Chronicle is also not going to print "Fighting Irish?" or are they cool with only being politically correct and tolerant when it suits them and their political agenda?


Oh cool this tired false equivalency hasn't been posted in a billion Washington football threads before
 
2013-10-30 05:07:34 PM  

Scoonie97: Came for the pictures of pretty cheerleaders in indian costumes....wait, what?


3.bp.blogspot.com

Oh, Suzie Q!
 
2013-10-30 05:14:33 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: This will all die down soon, and then we can all go back to not caring about the name.  Then in 3 or 4 years, people will get mad again, and the whole cycle will begin anew.  Same as it ever was.


It only comes up when the Skins garner national attention by making the playoffs.  So we can safely ignore the name until the next time they blunder into some more talented rookies to break on the wheel.
 
2013-10-30 05:22:56 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: oh_please: Hey, is this another thread where I can call people racist and feel better about myself?

"RACIST!!!"

/damn, it really does work
/I feel twice as better about myself than yesterday

Speak English or GTFO!


Sorry, I feel twice as much better about myself.
 
2013-10-30 05:27:07 PM  

Walker: I'm so sick of this sh*t. This "Oneida" tribe (aren't they a brand of silverware?) are the only tribe I hear complaining about the team name. Apaches, Navajo's and others say they are fine with it. Several Native American schools even have their team name as -- wait for it -- REDSKINS!!!! So before they start boycotting and complaining about the Washington Redskins they need to start boycotting and complaining about themselves.


Yes. All Native American tribes are the same.
 
2013-10-30 05:30:27 PM  

nmrsnr: I like the Washington [REDACTED], our mascot can be a large black bar.


It would be greatly appropriate for DC.
 
2013-10-30 05:31:55 PM  
Change the name to the WarriorSkins and be done with it...

that's how you troll
 
2013-10-30 05:32:50 PM  
Damnit, my headline was better: Add the San Francisco Chronicle to the list of media who will not refer to the Washington football team as "attractive and successful Native Americans"
 
2013-10-30 05:35:24 PM  

haemaker: Damnit, my headline was better: Add the San Francisco Chronicle to the list of media who will not refer to the Washington football team as "attractive and successful Native Americans"


i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-30 05:35:41 PM  

dallylamma: So...Redskins bad but Chiefs good? Indians bad but Blackhawks good?


Exactly. And for good reason.
 
2013-10-30 05:36:00 PM  

Walker: I'm so sick of this sh*t. This "Oneida" tribe (aren't they a brand of silverware?) are the only tribe I hear complaining about the team name. Apaches, Navajo's and others say they are fine with it. Several Native American schools even have their team name as -- wait for it -- REDSKINS!!!! So before they start boycotting and complaining about the Washington Redskins they need to start boycotting and complaining about themselves.


I'd LOVE for you to come up here to Montana, head to Browning and start calling everyone there "redskins".

Let us know how that works out for you "no one thinks it's a slur" guy...
 
2013-10-30 05:38:15 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Why Would I Read the Article: This will all die down soon, and then we can all go back to not caring about the name.  Then in 3 or 4 years, people will get mad again, and the whole cycle will begin anew.  Same as it ever was.


I assume the Chronicle is also not going to print "Fighting Irish?" or are they cool with only being politically correct and tolerant when it suits them and their political agenda?

Oh cool this tired false equivalency hasn't been posted in a billion Washington football threads before


Their not the "Fighting Mics", but boy howdy can't seem to fathom the difference.
 
2013-10-30 05:38:51 PM  
They're...
 
2013-10-30 05:46:53 PM  
Let's go down to [REDACTED]town for some lo-mein.
 
2013-10-30 05:57:06 PM  
If only we could convert white guilt into electricity.
 
2013-10-30 06:08:17 PM  

Walker: I'm so sick of this sh*t. This "Oneida" tribe (aren't they a brand of silverware?) are the only tribe I hear complaining about the team name. Apaches, Navajo's and others say they are fine with it. Several Native American schools even have their team name as -- wait for it -- REDSKINS!!!! So before they start boycotting and complaining about the Washington Redskins they need to start boycotting and complaining about themselves.


Bravo.

9/10.
 
2013-10-30 06:17:45 PM  

russlar: If only we could convert white guilt privilege into electricity.


Fixed for accuracy.
 
2013-10-30 06:19:10 PM  

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Let's go down to [REDACTED]town for some lo-mein.


Hymie-town?
Spic-town?

Cuz "China" doesn't make any sense in relation to the issue.
 
2013-10-30 06:19:11 PM  

russlar: If only we could convert white guilt into electricity.


It's not like it some magic, perpetual motion cost-free transaction.  It took a lot of effort to kill all them redskins.
 
2013-10-30 06:22:15 PM  

mediablitz: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Let's go down to [REDACTED]town for some lo-mein.

Hymie-town?
Spic-town?

Cuz "China" doesn't make any sense in relation to the issue.


San Francisco's Chinatown didn't originate as a designated area to house people of Asian origin?
 
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