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2013-10-30 12:09:18 PM
He is probably not too far off the mark but being illiterate, stupid and welfare sucking are not crimes. At least not ones we should waste money and resources on.

Legalize the stupid crap and use those law enforcement resources for important things like securing our borders against illegal immigration and enforcing the taxes on legalized pot.
 
2013-10-30 12:10:46 PM
If that were true, they would be cops.
 
2013-10-30 12:16:32 PM
Cop Thug whose livelihood is challenged by legalization says marijuana legalization advocates are stupid welfare-sucking potheads who probably can't read

FTFY
 
2013-10-30 12:16:45 PM
Cop says realizes marijuana legalization advocates are stupid welfare-sucking potheads who probably can't read about to put his ass out of a job.

FTFReality
 
2013-10-30 12:22:48 PM
I'd bet everything I own in the world that this guy self-identifies as a "small government conservative."
 
2013-10-30 12:24:15 PM
And on his facebook page, pics of having booze at noon at a distillery.
 
2013-10-30 12:24:40 PM
I bet a lot of drug enforcement types are getting nervous with the possibility of cannabis legalization because they know they'll have to go after the Bad Guys who actually have guns and might shoot back.
 
2013-10-30 12:27:15 PM
Ohh and when you return from a debate (or "civil discussion") and all you can post is an angry rant about the audience, you most likely got your ass handed to you in said debate.
 
2013-10-30 12:29:00 PM
I have two friends who are police officers.

Their positions on marijuana legalization are polar opposites. One says legalization is absolutely the right thing to do and will avoid the gross waste of police resources on an essentially harmless "crime. The other predicts that marijuana legalization will only increase crime and cost more.

The amazing thing is that they are the same age and work on the same force.

It's truly bizarre.
 
2013-10-30 12:30:33 PM

Rev.K: The other predicts that marijuana legalization will only increase crime and cost more.



"If less things are illegal, there will be more crime."

wha?
 
2013-10-30 12:34:10 PM

hasty ambush: He is probably not too far off the mark but being illiterate, stupid and welfare sucking are not crimes. At least not ones we should waste money and resources on.

Legalize the stupid crap and use those law enforcement resources for important things like securing our borders against illegal immigration and enforcing the taxes on legalized pot.


I hate it when I agree with you.

Honestly, many pro-pot advocates really are their own worst enemy. And I say this as an avid pothead.
 
2013-10-30 12:35:22 PM

hasty ambush: He is probably not too far off the mark but being illiterate, stupid and welfare sucking are not crimes. At least not ones we should waste money and resources on.


I know of at least one "1%er" that smokes. You just only hear about the stupid ones.
 
2013-10-30 12:35:49 PM

Blues_X: "If less things are illegal, there will be more crime."

wha?



It's actually a pretty interesting commentary on establishment vs youth.

Though they are both the same age (35) one has been on the force for 10 years and the other about 4-5.

My friend with a longer service is far, far more aligned to "establishment" cops. Sergeants and Captains who are approaching retirement and take a very old school view of policing.

My other friend with fewer years works, generally, with younger cops, though his sergeant is certainly an experienced veteran.

There's a tipping point coming within the law enforcement community. I would wager that many large cities are there already.
 
2013-10-30 12:42:56 PM

gilgigamesh: hasty ambush: He is probably not too far off the mark but being illiterate, stupid and welfare sucking are not crimes. At least not ones we should waste money and resources on.

Legalize the stupid crap and use those law enforcement resources for important things like securing our borders against illegal immigration and enforcing the taxes on legalized pot.

I hate it when I agree with you.

Honestly, many pro-pot advocates really are their own worst enemy. And I say this as an avid pothead.


I'd be surprised if the overall distribution of pot smokers didn't mirror the general population in terms of education level, employment status, and personal wealth.

There are poor pot smokers with little education, there are middle class pot smokers with college degrees, and there are wealthy pot smokers with post-graduate degrees making big bucks, plus plenty of variations on all of those.

Florida's 'drug test everyone on welfare' debacle showed that the vast majority of those on government assistance aren't toking up, and that makes sense because if you're barely scraping by you don't exactly have a lot of spare cash for pot.

Assuming that every pot smoker is a white guy with dreads wearing a Phish t-shirt living out of his van doing nothing buy smoking up all day isn't any different than assuming everyone who drinks is like the homeless wino who spends all day with a brown paper sack on the street corner.
 
2013-10-30 12:44:36 PM

Rev.K: There's a tipping point coming within the law enforcement community.


I think it reflect society, overall.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-30 12:46:36 PM

scottydoesntknow: Cop says realizes marijuana legalization advocates are stupid welfare-sucking potheads who probably can't read about to put his ass out of a job.


That's it.  There is no crime except for marijuana possession and once that is legal everyone will live in perfect harmony for ever after.
 
2013-10-30 12:48:09 PM

hasty ambush: He is probably not too far off the mark


dj_bigbird: Cop Thug whose livelihood is challenged by legalization says marijuana legalization advocates are stupid welfare-sucking potheads who probably can't read

FTFY



Why not both?
 
2013-10-30 12:52:39 PM

TuteTibiImperes: gilgigamesh: hasty ambush: He is probably not too far off the mark but being illiterate, stupid and welfare sucking are not crimes. At least not ones we should waste money and resources on.

Legalize the stupid crap and use those law enforcement resources for important things like securing our borders against illegal immigration and enforcing the taxes on legalized pot.

I hate it when I agree with you.

Honestly, many pro-pot advocates really are their own worst enemy. And I say this as an avid pothead.

I'd be surprised if the overall distribution of pot smokers didn't mirror the general population in terms of education level, employment status, and personal wealth.

There are poor pot smokers with little education, there are middle class pot smokers with college degrees, and there are wealthy pot smokers with post-graduate degrees making big bucks, plus plenty of variations on all of those.

Florida's 'drug test everyone on welfare' debacle showed that the vast majority of those on government assistance aren't toking up, and that makes sense because if you're barely scraping by you don't exactly have a lot of spare cash for pot.

Assuming that every pot smoker is a white guy with dreads wearing a Phish t-shirt living out of his van doing nothing buy smoking up all day isn't any different than assuming everyone who drinks is like the homeless wino who spends all day with a brown paper sack on the street corner.


I propose we administer a "Cheech and Chong" test to weed out the potheads who may be detrimental to the cause. Basically, if you find Cheech and Chong funny, under no circumstances should you be put in any situation where you're advocating for legalization.
 
2013-10-30 12:53:10 PM
Potheads scare him?

Does he know how much he scares US?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-10-30 12:57:16 PM

sigdiamond2000: I propose we administer a "Cheech and Chong" test to weed out the potheads who may be detrimental to the cause. Basically, if you find Cheech and Chong funny, under no circumstances should you be put in any situation where you're advocating for legalization.


The best argument against marijuana legalization is to read a Fark thread with a bunch of pot heads in it.  If pot didn't addle their brains, what did?
 
2013-10-30 12:58:17 PM

vpb: sigdiamond2000: I propose we administer a "Cheech and Chong" test to weed out the potheads who may be detrimental to the cause. Basically, if you find Cheech and Chong funny, under no circumstances should you be put in any situation where you're advocating for legalization.

The best argument against marijuana legalization is to read a Fark thread with a bunch of pot heads in it.  If pot didn't addle their brains, what did?


Fark of course.
 
2013-10-30 12:58:32 PM

vpb: sigdiamond2000: I propose we administer a "Cheech and Chong" test to weed out the potheads who may be detrimental to the cause. Basically, if you find Cheech and Chong funny, under no circumstances should you be put in any situation where you're advocating for legalization.

The best argument against marijuana legalization is to read a Fark thread with a bunch of pot heads in it.  If pot didn't addle their brains, what did?



Oh, good. Another "expert".
 
2013-10-30 01:00:19 PM

vpb: scottydoesntknow: Cop says realizes marijuana legalization advocates are stupid welfare-sucking potheads who probably can't read about to put his ass out of a job.

That's it.  There is no crime except for marijuana possession and once that is legal everyone will live in perfect harmony for ever after.


Where did I say that?

What happens to companies that are told they can't manufacture one of their best-selling products anymore? They downsize.

What happens to a task force when they're told they can't target one of their largest sources of revenue? They downsize.
 
2013-10-30 01:00:31 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Assuming that every pot smoker is a white guy with dreads wearing a Phish t-shirt living out of his van doing nothing buy smoking up all day isn't any different than assuming everyone who drinks is like the homeless wino who spends all day with a brown paper sack on the street corner.


I'm not talking about pot heads. I am talking about active legalization advocates.

I'm not even saying it isn't something to advocate. I am saying that the type of person who spends his time actively pursuing legalization usually doesn't seem to represent the cause very well.
 
2013-10-30 01:00:50 PM

vpb: sigdiamond2000: I propose we administer a "Cheech and Chong" test to weed out the potheads who may be detrimental to the cause. Basically, if you find Cheech and Chong funny, under no circumstances should you be put in any situation where you're advocating for legalization.

The best argument against marijuana legalization is to read a Fark thread with a bunch of pot heads in it.  If pot didn't addle their brains, what did?


Oddly enough the Fark debates on the matter seem to always feature well-reasoned eloquent arguments in favor of legalization, while the prohibition crowd is rarely, if ever, able to present a clear argument with any facts to back it up on why their plan is better.  So, by your logic, marijuana actually improves critical thinking ability.
 
2013-10-30 01:01:12 PM

Tigger: hasty ambush: He is probably not too far off the mark but being illiterate, stupid and welfare sucking are not crimes. At least not ones we should waste money and resources on.

I know of at least one "1%er" that smokes. You just only hear about the stupid ones.


Being a 1%er does not necessarily make them smart, they could be a Kennedy or a Paris Hilton.
 
2013-10-30 01:03:55 PM

TuteTibiImperes: vpb: sigdiamond2000: I propose we administer a "Cheech and Chong" test to weed out the potheads who may be detrimental to the cause. Basically, if you find Cheech and Chong funny, under no circumstances should you be put in any situation where you're advocating for legalization.

The best argument against marijuana legalization is to read a Fark thread with a bunch of pot heads in it.  If pot didn't addle their brains, what did?

Oddly enough the Fark debates on the matter seem to always feature well-reasoned eloquent arguments in favor of legalization, while the prohibition crowd is rarely, if ever, able to present a clear argument with any facts to back it up on why their plan is better.  So, by your logic, marijuana actually improves critical thinking ability.


To be fair it is a pretty easy argument to make. Kind of like the gay marriage debate, one side is clearly backed up by logic and morality; the other derp.
 
2013-10-30 01:08:13 PM

gilgigamesh: TuteTibiImperes: Assuming that every pot smoker is a white guy with dreads wearing a Phish t-shirt living out of his van doing nothing buy smoking up all day isn't any different than assuming everyone who drinks is like the homeless wino who spends all day with a brown paper sack on the street corner.

I'm not talking about pot heads. I am talking about active legalization advocates.

I'm not even saying it isn't something to advocate. I am saying that the type of person who spends his time actively pursuing legalization usually doesn't seem to represent the cause very well.


Take the photo from the article:

blogs.riverfronttimes.com\

Is there anything about these people that screams 'degenerate'?  Sure, there's perhaps an overabundance of facial hair going on, and a couple of the guys are trending towards 'long-haired hippy' looks, but there's also some perfectly respectable looking young people, and a bunch of people who look like grandmothers.

The sort of 'rough' look about some of them could just be because they're in SE Missouri, not exactly a place known for being an epicenter of urban refinement.
 
2013-10-30 01:13:41 PM

Rev.K: Blues_X: "If less things are illegal, there will be more crime."

wha?


It's actually a pretty interesting commentary on establishment vs youth.

Though they are both the same age (35) one has been on the force for 10 years and the other about 4-5.

My friend with a longer service is far, far more aligned to "establishment" cops. Sergeants and Captains who are approaching retirement and take a very old school view of policing.

My other friend with fewer years works, generally, with younger cops, though his sergeant is certainly an experienced veteran.

There's a tipping point coming within the law enforcement community. I would wager that many large cities are there already.


I think that tipping point has more to do withe resources.  Communities are looking at budgets and saying well we could spend x amount enforcing pot laws or we could spend that on reducing gang violence, for example, and still get fed money for going after the crack, heroin etc.

Is society and more importantly the tax payer any better because Joe frat boy/pot head gets jammed with a drug conviction maybe jail time for instead of maybe a Class C ticket?

I have some bad stuff about legalization , like it is hard to order anything in Bolder CO restaurant from anybody who is not stoned but I figure that is some initial over exuberance.
 
2013-10-30 01:17:07 PM
these cop lobbyists are such pieces of shiat, I hope that guy dies of cancer.
 
2013-10-30 01:20:02 PM
It seems as though there is a big enough meth problem to keep the DEA and local cops busy. I'd rather they focus on that anyway. I am much more afraid of what a desperate tweeker will do than a stoned person.
 
2013-10-30 01:21:00 PM
A reminder for anyone in British Columbia - you have about a month left to sign the petition for a referendum on decriminalization.
 
2013-10-30 01:21:12 PM

hasty ambush: Tigger: hasty ambush: He is probably not too far off the mark but being illiterate, stupid and welfare sucking are not crimes. At least not ones we should waste money and resources on.

I know of at least one "1%er" that smokes. You just only hear about the stupid ones.

Being a 1%er does not necessarily make them smart, they could be a Kennedy or a Paris Hilton.


Yeah but I got a degree from Oxford to go with it.
 
2013-10-30 01:21:12 PM
And, after trashing these people (who he does not know personally) for having a different opinion, he closes by saying he's going back to work to 'serve the public'.

Yeah, right, ya douche. You don't serve the public. You trample them.

/he's probably fat, too
 
2013-10-30 01:21:24 PM

freetomato: It seems as though there is a big enough meth problem to keep the DEA and local cops busy.


Thanks Heisenberg!
 
2013-10-30 01:21:48 PM
Pot causes the munchies
People with the munchies will eat donuts
Cops have logical reason to oppose legalization
QED
 
2013-10-30 01:21:54 PM
Kind of funny, given that cops have usually generous, taxpayer-funded pensions, and are much more likely than the general population to abuse drugs and alcohol.
 
2013-10-30 01:22:31 PM

Tigger: hasty ambush: Tigger: hasty ambush: He is probably not too far off the mark but being illiterate, stupid and welfare sucking are not crimes. At least not ones we should waste money and resources on.

I know of at least one "1%er" that smokes. You just only hear about the stupid ones.

Being a 1%er does not necessarily make them smart, they could be a Kennedy or a Paris Hilton.

Yeah but I got a degree from Oxford to go with it.


Two actually.

And if it's not clear I'm suggesting your point is ridiculous and silly.
 
2013-10-30 01:23:21 PM
Wonder what he'd have to say if doughnuts were illegal?
 
2013-10-30 01:25:25 PM
That's well written, for a cop.
 
2013-10-30 01:25:37 PM
It's hilarious that this cop thinks that he fights crime and serves the public.
 
2013-10-30 01:26:03 PM
The Decrim/Legalization fights the same lengthy uphill battle that plagues many seemingly common-sense issues in the US. Mountains of misinformation and an air of superiority drive most opposition.
 
2013-10-30 01:26:20 PM

sigdiamond2000: I'd bet everything I own in the world that this guy self-identifies as a "small government conservative."


Shows what you know.  There are a bunch of cop unions that worry about that, but truth is, alcohol is legal, and it has more than been able to find ways to keep cops employed.

Legalization will not mean that people will cease to go to jail for using pot, it will simply mean that responsible people will be safe from going to jail while using pot, while the irresponsible ones (you know the guys mostly getting busted for it now) will still find ways to get their ass in the slammer.
 
2013-10-30 01:26:20 PM
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Hey Don Imus is in attendance.
 
2013-10-30 01:26:23 PM

hasty ambush: He is probably not too far off the mark but being illiterate, stupid and welfare sucking are not crimes. At least not ones we should waste money and resources on.

Legalize the stupid crap and use those law enforcement resources for important things like securing our borders against illegal immigration and enforcing the taxes on legalized pot.


But then they can't pad their budgets with seized cars, houses, or cash! You see the conundrum they're in!
 
2013-10-30 01:26:30 PM
Funnily enough, I have roughly the same opinion of American police.
 
2013-10-30 01:26:55 PM
The greatest trick I ever pulled was convincing the world I never smoked or rolled. - Solyhhit
 
2013-10-30 01:27:38 PM

freetomato: It seems as though there is a big enough meth problem to keep the DEA and local cops busy. I'd rather they focus on that anyway. I am much more afraid of what a desperate tweeker will do than a stoned person.


The more things that are illegal the easier it is to be a lazy abusive cop.
 
2013-10-30 01:27:39 PM

sigdiamond2000: I propose we administer a "Cheech and Chong" test to weed out the potheads who may be detrimental to the cause. Basically, if you find Cheech and Chong funny, under no circumstances should you be put in any situation where you're advocating for legalization.


I second that.
 
2013-10-30 01:27:44 PM

scottydoesntknow: Ohh and when you return from a debate (or "civil discussion") and all you can post is an angry rant about the audience, you most likely got your ass handed to you in said debate.


His facebook post makes me wonder what his opinions were. I could make some reasonable assumptions, but that would make an ass out of me.

/Most users are trouble makers
//Says the man that only gets called if there are problems
///Or labels them a trouble maker because of a rather arbitrary law
 
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