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2013-10-30 01:07:49 PM  
Wow.  Guess he owed money or something
 
2013-10-30 01:35:06 PM  
So, he's dead, then?
 
2013-10-30 01:37:31 PM  
Such a horrific event will fail to allay fears for next summer's World Cup. Brazilian football is often linked with gang activity and has produced a plethora of frightening occurrences across the years.

Back in July, 20-year-old referee Otavio da Silva was stoned and dismembered by angry supporters after he fatally stabbed a player for refusing to leave the pitch, per Daily Mail's Collman, the official's head was reportedly put on a stake after the incident.



I predict next year's World Cup will have the best television ratings EVER.
 
2013-10-30 01:41:22 PM  
"From what I know, he didn't have any enemies and neither did his wife.


Santos' wife, Geisha Silva, works as a social worker in Rio's Pacification Units.  The unit is working to try to take the favelas (shanty towns) back from drug lords."


No one can be that stupid.

I'd be more ok with an unauthorized war against the cartel and cartel cultures down there than any oil rich despot.
 
2013-10-30 01:42:23 PM  

nekom: Wow.  Guess he owed money or something


Or his wife was doing work to try and loosen the cartel's hold on the slums.
 
2013-10-30 01:49:46 PM  
Did he get a checkup from the neck up?
 
2013-10-30 01:52:09 PM  
If you're planning on traveling to Brazil, for the World Cup or otherwise, be sure to get kidnap insurance.

I am not joking.
 
2013-10-30 01:52:25 PM  
if the head has been glued to a turtle... DON'T PICK IT UP!
 
2013-10-30 01:52:58 PM  

Lucky LaRue: So, he's dead, then?


Let us know if his condition changes.
 
2013-10-30 02:11:43 PM  
Yea, that warrants at least a yellow card.
 
2013-10-30 02:47:29 PM  
That's gonna leave a mark.
 
2013-10-30 02:52:11 PM  
The horrified wife of Joao Rodrigo Silva Santos, 35, made the gruesome discovery as she left the house in Rio de Janeiro for work early yesterday morning.
The player's eyes and tongue had been cut out and his head placed inside one of his own rucksacks, police said.



Wow.  That's COOOOOOLLLLLLDDDDDDD!
 
2013-10-30 03:08:28 PM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
A man is lying on the street
Some punk's chopped off his head
And I'm the only one who stops to see if he's dead

Turns out he's dead
 
2013-10-30 03:13:18 PM  
Soccer player...pffft...he's probably faking it.
 
2013-10-30 03:17:27 PM  

Mangoose: nekom: Wow.  Guess he owed money or something

Or his wife was doing work to try and loosen the cartel's hold on the slums.


I suppose that's also possible.  Either way, those guys do seem to know how to make a point.
 
2013-10-30 03:40:15 PM  
www.orangejuiceblog.com
 
2013-10-30 03:41:31 PM  

JohnnyCanuck: Soccer player...pffft...he's probably faking it.


+1

/aisle seat
//my sympathies to the wife.  Losing your SO is bad enough, but this...
 
2013-10-30 03:49:25 PM  
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2013-10-30 03:56:01 PM  

Mangoose: nekom: Wow.  Guess he owed money or something

Or his wife was doing work to try and loosen the cartel's hold on the slums.


If the cartel had a problem with her, why wouldn't they kidnap/behead her instead, especially if she is working directly against them?

Not trying to argue, just offering a suggestion.

This shiat is insane. I'd think if I was a non-essential person on the team (bench warmer), I'd get "lost" on the way to the airport. Yeesh.
 
2013-10-30 03:56:34 PM  
Meanwhile, FIFA and the Olympic committee await their next briefcase full of money and vanload of hookers.
 
2013-10-30 03:57:14 PM  

sovietski: Not trying to argue, just offering a suggestion.


They did threaten the whole league and their fans with violence. It's possible he was just one of the easiest players to get to and kill, without any particular motivation against him or his family.
 
2013-10-30 03:57:27 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Such a horrific event will fail to allay fears for next summer's World Cup. Brazilian football is often linked with gang activity and has produced a plethora of frightening occurrences across the years.

Back in July, 20-year-old referee Otavio da Silva was stoned and dismembered by angry supporters after he fatally stabbed a player for refusing to leave the pitch, per Daily Mail's Collman, the official's head was reportedly put on a stake after the incident.


I predict next year's World Cup will have the best television ratings EVER.

Just two weeks before Santos' murder, Brazil's largest drug cartel promised a "World Cup of terror," as highlighted by the  Daily Mail.


You gotta give them credit for a catchy slogan...
 
2013-10-30 04:02:10 PM  
FTA:  From what I know, he didn't have any enemies


His friends must be some some real dicks.
 
2013-10-30 04:12:09 PM  

Treygreen13: sovietski: Not trying to argue, just offering a suggestion.

They did threaten the whole league and their fans with violence. It's possible he was just one of the easiest players to get to and kill, without any particular motivation against him or his family.


True. TFA said he owned a store, they could've been hiding in plain sight the whole time.

If the cartels are doing this now, imagine how it may be when the Olympics come to town?
 
2013-10-30 04:15:15 PM  
In death, as in life, Santos is known for his head's up play.
 
2013-10-30 04:17:09 PM  
Yea...they should really rethink holding major events like the World Cup in countries like this. Seriously, if you want the income from hosting a World Cup, sort this shiat out. For real.
 
2013-10-30 04:18:14 PM  
Are soccer balls that expensive down there that they need to make their own like this?
 
2013-10-30 04:24:19 PM  

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2013-10-30 04:53:03 PM  

sovietski: Mangoose: nekom: Wow.  Guess he owed money or something

Or his wife was doing work to try and loosen the cartel's hold on the slums.

If the cartel had a problem with her, why wouldn't they kidnap/behead her instead, especially if she is working directly against them?

Not trying to argue, just offering a suggestion.

This shiat is insane. I'd think if I was a non-essential person on the team (bench warmer), I'd get "lost" on the way to the airport. Yeesh.


Because he was married to her and had the Nationally known name. If you were going to kill somebody as an act of terror to scare people from undermining your drug business, would you kill the not known social worker or her Nationally known husband?
 
2013-10-30 05:04:00 PM  

ongbok: Because he was married to her and had the Nationally known name. If you were going to kill somebody as an act of terror to scare people from undermining your drug business, would you kill the not known social worker or her Nationally known husband?


I imagine the decision was arrived at something like this:

Thug1: That social worker was giving medicine away again today!
Thug2: Did you know her husband used to play for Nacional?
Thug3: Nacional? Let's kill him!

/Disclaimer: All I know about Brazil comes from watching City of God and World Cup soccer.
 
2013-10-30 05:06:25 PM  
Don't worry the wife has hired a former NYPD detective with a drinking problem to be her bodyguard.
 
2013-10-30 05:07:56 PM  

SenorBenedict: Don't worry the wife has hired a former NYPD detective with a drinking problem to be her bodyguard.


I thought she called in a favor from a red headed CSI from Miami to avenge her husbands death.
 
2013-10-30 05:13:35 PM  

Treygreen13: sovietski: Not trying to argue, just offering a suggestion.

They did threaten the whole league and their fans with violence. It's possible he was just one of the easiest players to get to and kill, without any particular motivation against him or his family.



The fact that they decapitated him, cut out his tongue and eyes and, and then left the head on her doorstep suggests, to me at least, that this was a message of a more personal nature.  YMMV
 
2013-10-30 05:18:53 PM  
American sports have nothing on Soccer.  I've yet to see an NFL player with his head on a stake.
 
2013-10-30 05:21:33 PM  

muwaryer: Treygreen13: sovietski: Not trying to argue, just offering a suggestion.

They did threaten the whole league and their fans with violence. It's possible he was just one of the easiest players to get to and kill, without any particular motivation against him or his family.


The fact that they decapitated him, cut out his tongue and eyes and, and then left the head on her doorstep suggests, to me at least, that this was a message of a more personal nature.  YMMV


Not sure about these particular cartel guys, but the organized drug rings don't really care who you are when deciding if they want to mutilate your corpse. When they want some bodies to send a message they don't just shoot a guy in the head. They'll strip the body nude and then chop all the limbs off, or puncture a body with 30 kitchen knives, or leave a note in the lower torso of a bisected naked stripper, or just leave a trashbag full of heads on the police station front door.

It doesn't even have to be a local, they'll kill tourists or children or diplomats or whoever they can to really get the fear spreading. Google Image Search "Cartel Killings" if you haven't eaten a meal lately and see some of their gruesome handiwork on a grand scale.
 
2013-10-30 05:33:37 PM  

Treygreen13: muwaryer: Treygreen13: sovietski: Not trying to argue, just offering a suggestion.

They did threaten the whole league and their fans with violence. It's possible he was just one of the easiest players to get to and kill, without any particular motivation against him or his family.


The fact that they decapitated him, cut out his tongue and eyes and, and then left the head on her doorstep suggests, to me at least, that this was a message of a more personal nature.  YMMV

Not sure about these particular cartel guys, but the organized drug rings don't really care who you are when deciding if they want to mutilate your corpse. When they want some bodies to send a message they don't just shoot a guy in the head. They'll strip the body nude and then chop all the limbs off, or puncture a body with 30 kitchen knives, or leave a note in the lower torso of a bisected naked stripper, or just leave a trashbag full of heads on the police station front door.

It doesn't even have to be a local, they'll kill tourists or children or diplomats or whoever they can to really get the fear spreading. Google Image Search "Cartel Killings" if you haven't eaten a meal lately and see some of their gruesome handiwork on a grand scale.


This. Islamic, Christian, and Jewish extremists commit their acts of terror as something that can be construed as a political statement of some kind. The drug cartels commit their acts of terror because they want to cause terror for it's own sake.
 
2013-10-30 05:39:00 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: ongbok: Because he was married to her and had the Nationally known name. If you were going to kill somebody as an act of terror to scare people from undermining your drug business, would you kill the not known social worker or her Nationally known husband?

I imagine the decision was arrived at something like this:

Thug1: That social worker was giving medicine away again today!
Thug2: Did you know her husband used to play for Nacional?
Thug3: Nacional? Let's kill him!

/Disclaimer: All I know about Brazil comes from watching City of God and World Cup soccer.


I'm pretty sure that's all you need to know.
 
2013-10-30 05:41:16 PM  

Treygreen13: muwaryer: Treygreen13: sovietski: Not trying to argue, just offering a suggestion.

They did threaten the whole league and their fans with violence. It's possible he was just one of the easiest players to get to and kill, without any particular motivation against him or his family.


The fact that they decapitated him, cut out his tongue and eyes and, and then left the head on her doorstep suggests, to me at least, that this was a message of a more personal nature.  YMMV

Not sure about these particular cartel guys, but the organized drug rings don't really care who you are when deciding if they want to mutilate your corpse. When they want some bodies to send a message they don't just shoot a guy in the head. They'll strip the body nude and then chop all the limbs off, or puncture a body with 30 kitchen knives, or leave a note in the lower torso of a bisected naked stripper, or just leave a trashbag full of heads on the police station front door.

It doesn't even have to be a local, they'll kill tourists or children or diplomats or whoever they can to really get the fear spreading. Google Image Search "Cartel Killings" if you haven't eaten a meal lately and see some of their gruesome handiwork on a grand scale.



All true, and I'm aware of that.  But, they didn't leave his head at the police station...they left it on his wife's front doorstep.  That fact, above all else, is what makes it seem to me like a personal message.  But who knows...
 
2013-10-30 05:46:07 PM  

muwaryer: Treygreen13: muwaryer: Treygreen13: sovietski: Not trying to argue, just offering a suggestion.

They did threaten the whole league and their fans with violence. It's possible he was just one of the easiest players to get to and kill, without any particular motivation against him or his family.


The fact that they decapitated him, cut out his tongue and eyes and, and then left the head on her doorstep suggests, to me at least, that this was a message of a more personal nature.  YMMV

Not sure about these particular cartel guys, but the organized drug rings don't really care who you are when deciding if they want to mutilate your corpse. When they want some bodies to send a message they don't just shoot a guy in the head. They'll strip the body nude and then chop all the limbs off, or puncture a body with 30 kitchen knives, or leave a note in the lower torso of a bisected naked stripper, or just leave a trashbag full of heads on the police station front door.

It doesn't even have to be a local, they'll kill tourists or children or diplomats or whoever they can to really get the fear spreading. Google Image Search "Cartel Killings" if you haven't eaten a meal lately and see some of their gruesome handiwork on a grand scale.


All true, and I'm aware of that.  But, they didn't leave his head at the police station...they left it on his wife's front doorstep.  That fact, above all else, is what makes it seem to me like a personal message.  But who knows...


Yeah a personal message, "You and your friends stop trying to fark up our money"
 
2013-10-30 05:46:37 PM  

muwaryer: All true, and I'm aware of that.  But, they didn't leave his head at the police station...they left it on his wife's front doorstep.  That fact, above all else, is what makes it seem to me like a personal message.  But who knows...


Hard to really know the thought process of people who are willing to murder soccer players for having the audacity to play soccer. We're both just guessing here.

I know if I were trying to get the most scare out of a severed head, I'd show it to the person who loved the rest of the body too. Obviously the police are going to be... impressed... by a head in a box, but they'd calmly call the wife and tell her what happened. But if you drop it on his front porch, the woman married to the head and the rest of the body will probably go shrieking through the neighborhood and all the neighbors will come out to see it.
 
2013-10-30 05:53:33 PM  

Treygreen13: Google Image Search "Cartel Killings" if you haven't eaten a meal lately and see some of their gruesome handiwork on a grand scale.


i.qkme.me
 
2013-10-30 05:59:58 PM  

Mattyb710: Treygreen13: Google Image Search "Cartel Killings" if you haven't eaten a meal lately and see some of their gruesome handiwork on a grand scale.

[i.qkme.me image 400x300]


It's also the reason I don't buy "it will stop the cartels" as a stand-alone excuse for drug legalization. People who are willing to hang impaled bodies of government officials from overpasses and publicly chainsaw people's heads off don't just pack up shop and become farmers.
 
2013-10-30 06:01:07 PM  
Legalize all drugs!
 
2013-10-30 06:22:08 PM  

Treygreen13: Mattyb710: Treygreen13: Google Image Search "Cartel Killings" if you haven't eaten a meal lately and see some of their gruesome handiwork on a grand scale.

[i.qkme.me image 400x300]

It's also the reason I don't buy "it will stop the cartels" as a stand-alone excuse for drug legalization. People who are willing to hang impaled bodies of government officials from overpasses and publicly chainsaw people's heads off don't just pack up shop and become farmers.


I agree. While I'm for the legalization, to think murderers/rapists will take their EricHolder-15 rifles and open up burrito stands and baby bottle factories is retarded.
 
2013-10-30 06:51:38 PM  

MichiganFTL: Treygreen13: Mattyb710: Treygreen13: Google Image Search "Cartel Killings" if you haven't eaten a meal lately and see some of their gruesome handiwork on a grand scale.

[i.qkme.me image 400x300]

It's also the reason I don't buy "it will stop the cartels" as a stand-alone excuse for drug legalization. People who are willing to hang impaled bodies of government officials from overpasses and publicly chainsaw people's heads off don't just pack up shop and become farmers.

I agree. While I'm for the legalization, to think murderers/rapists will take their EricHolder-15 rifles and open up burrito stands and baby bottle factories is retarded.


The issue is scale. A psycho here or there, out on his own, w/ limited funds, is going to get caught/killed pretty quickly. A cash rich organization is going to be able to murder and dismember random civilians for long periods of time b/c of all the extra manpower, lawyers, and access to warehouses, body dumps, and forensic cleanup specialists. Cutting out the funding means it's a lot harder for all of the psychos to stick together and keep doing their thing.
 
2013-10-30 06:59:43 PM  
She farked up by opening the ruck sack. If only she had just left it closed, his head would be both alive and dead.
 
2013-10-30 07:10:26 PM  

Trocadero: MichiganFTL: Treygreen13: Mattyb710: Treygreen13: Google Image Search "Cartel Killings" if you haven't eaten a meal lately and see some of their gruesome handiwork on a grand scale.

[i.qkme.me image 400x300]

It's also the reason I don't buy "it will stop the cartels" as a stand-alone excuse for drug legalization. People who are willing to hang impaled bodies of government officials from overpasses and publicly chainsaw people's heads off don't just pack up shop and become farmers.

I agree. While I'm for the legalization, to think murderers/rapists will take their EricHolder-15 rifles and open up burrito stands and baby bottle factories is retarded.

The issue is scale. A psycho here or there, out on his own, w/ limited funds, is going to get caught/killed pretty quickly. A cash rich organization is going to be able to murder and dismember random civilians for long periods of time b/c of all the extra manpower, lawyers, and access to warehouses, body dumps, and forensic cleanup specialists. Cutting out the funding means it's a lot harder for all of the psychos to stick together and keep doing their thing.


I really don't think the cartels care about forensic cleanup specialists. They're less "snipe a politician from a hotel room" and more "kill everyone who happens to be standing on a street."

Bu these cartels don't form because drugs are illegal - they form because of a lack of legitimate opportunities for the young and poor. So looking at dismantling a cartel doesn't begin with trying to kill them all or lower the profit margins. You have to have something more appealing for the young and desperate to do instead of joining the cartel.
 
2013-10-30 07:17:34 PM  

Treygreen13: Trocadero: MichiganFTL: Treygreen13: Mattyb710: Treygreen13: Google Image Search "Cartel Killings" if you haven't eaten a meal lately and see some of their gruesome handiwork on a grand scale.

[i.qkme.me image 400x300]

It's also the reason I don't buy "it will stop the cartels" as a stand-alone excuse for drug legalization. People who are willing to hang impaled bodies of government officials from overpasses and publicly chainsaw people's heads off don't just pack up shop and become farmers.

I agree. While I'm for the legalization, to think murderers/rapists will take their EricHolder-15 rifles and open up burrito stands and baby bottle factories is retarded.

The issue is scale. A psycho here or there, out on his own, w/ limited funds, is going to get caught/killed pretty quickly. A cash rich organization is going to be able to murder and dismember random civilians for long periods of time b/c of all the extra manpower, lawyers, and access to warehouses, body dumps, and forensic cleanup specialists. Cutting out the funding means it's a lot harder for all of the psychos to stick together and keep doing their thing.

I really don't think the cartels care about forensic cleanup specialists. They're less "snipe a politician from a hotel room" and more "kill everyone who happens to be standing on a street."

Bu these cartels don't form because drugs are illegal - they form because of a lack of legitimate opportunities for the young and poor. So looking at dismantling a cartel doesn't begin with trying to kill them all or lower the profit margins. You have to have something more appealing for the young and desperate to do instead of joining the cartel.


No, the cartel forms because drugs have insane profit margins. Most of its members join because it pays the best. If the cartel can't make money its members won't be hired. They won't automatically become good citizens, but they also won't have the resources of a cartel behind them - they'll be just street thugs. A gang without money is far less dangerous than a gang with money.
 
2013-10-30 07:32:10 PM  

SkittlesAreYum: Treygreen13: Trocadero: MichiganFTL: Treygreen13: Mattyb710: Treygreen13: Google Image Search "Cartel Killings" if you haven't eaten a meal lately and see some of their gruesome handiwork on a grand scale.

[i.qkme.me image 400x300]

It's also the reason I don't buy "it will stop the cartels" as a stand-alone excuse for drug legalization. People who are willing to hang impaled bodies of government officials from overpasses and publicly chainsaw people's heads off don't just pack up shop and become farmers.

I agree. While I'm for the legalization, to think murderers/rapists will take their EricHolder-15 rifles and open up burrito stands and baby bottle factories is retarded.

The issue is scale. A psycho here or there, out on his own, w/ limited funds, is going to get caught/killed pretty quickly. A cash rich organization is going to be able to murder and dismember random civilians for long periods of time b/c of all the extra manpower, lawyers, and access to warehouses, body dumps, and forensic cleanup specialists. Cutting out the funding means it's a lot harder for all of the psychos to stick together and keep doing their thing.

I really don't think the cartels care about forensic cleanup specialists. They're less "snipe a politician from a hotel room" and more "kill everyone who happens to be standing on a street."

Bu these cartels don't form because drugs are illegal - they form because of a lack of legitimate opportunities for the young and poor. So looking at dismantling a cartel doesn't begin with trying to kill them all or lower the profit margins. You have to have something more appealing for the young and desperate to do instead of joining the cartel.

No, the cartel forms because drugs have insane profit margins. Most of its members join because it pays the best. If the cartel can't make money its members won't be hired. They won't automatically become good citizens, but they also won't have the resources of a cartel behind them - they'll be just street thugs. A gang without money is far less dangerous than a gang with money.


It doesn't matter if you legalize weed or not, there's always Cocaine or Meth or PCP or whatever to sell. I know you'll probably say "we'll legalize it all then" but you and I both know that won't happen, at least not in our lifetimes.

As long as there's something illegal to do, it will pay well and some people will always do it. When you combine that unavoidable fact with poverty across an entire class or age group you're going to have those groups supplied by a seemingly endless stream of individuals either directly working for them or at least complicit with their machinations out of fear.
 
2013-10-30 07:52:28 PM  

kbronsito: if the head has been glued to a turtle... DON'T PICK IT UP!


Just watched that episode last night!
 
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