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(New Haven Register)   Inspired by the "successes" of 3D TVs, Smartwatches are yet another product forced on consumers this Christmas without anyone actually wanting them   (nhregister.com ) divider line
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2013-10-30 11:28:46 AM  
Make 3d TV's cheaper than 2d so even those who will never use the 3d buy them and you get some great sales numbers compared to the 2d
 
2013-10-30 11:36:29 AM  
What's funny is if you go to any iWatch article they say Apple will sale 5 million in the first year of a device that every other article says isn't wanted or needed.
 
2013-10-30 11:38:02 AM  
I want one.
 
2013-10-30 11:40:18 AM  
I want a 3d tv. Especially when these are finally available:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1495465/ultra-d-glasses-free-3d-update
 
2013-10-30 12:16:15 PM  

Blues_X: I want a 3d tv. Especially when these are finally available:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1495465/ultra-d-glasses-free-3d-update


I'm still waiting for working X-ray Specs.
The promises of my youth have not been fulfilled.
 
2013-10-30 12:18:38 PM  
I want one, and I want a smart camera too. I want all my shiat to be able to talk to all the rest of my shiat. We're slowly getting there.

I'd also like to have, instead of an iPad, an iPad-like device that has no brains of its own and I actually dock my iPhone in so it's still my phone but in an iPad configuration...if you see what I mean.
 
2013-10-30 12:20:46 PM  
I have a 3D compatible TV, but when I got it, all the recent models of televisions that size were 3D. It wasn't that I wanted that feature, but the TV that I wanted happened to have it.
 
2013-10-30 12:40:45 PM  

Nabb1: I have a 3D compatible TV, but when I got it, all the recent models of televisions that size were 3D. It wasn't that I wanted that feature, but the TV that I wanted happened to have it.


My mom absolutely had to have a 3D TV back in 2010, and hasn't seriously used the 3D capability since
watching the Royal Wedding on BBC America, though her boyfriend does sometimes fire up the 3D glasses
to watch football (its a Samsung with a pretty good 2D to 3D on the fly conversion function).
 
2013-10-30 01:07:24 PM  
Don't want it, don't buy it.  If you get one as a gift, be thankful.  They didn't have to get you anything.
 
2013-10-30 01:08:01 PM  

Barfmaker: I want one, and I want a smart camera too. I want all my shiat to be able to talk to all the rest of my shiat. We're slowly getting there.

I'd also like to have, instead of an iPad, an iPad-like device that has no brains of its own and I actually dock my iPhone in so it's still my phone but in an iPad configuration...if you see what I mean.


Yeah that'd be nice. There was a phone/tablet/laptop a bit ago, I can't remember who made it, but it was similar to that. You plugged your phone into a tablet, and you could plug your tablet into a keyboard. So it could be all 3. Great idea.

Also, to the headline. Who is forcing anyone who buy a smartwatch? :S
 
2013-10-30 01:10:26 PM  
Most people won't have any use for a smartwatch. Many others- like me- actually will, or at least will definitely enjoy having one and find it useful. It's doubtful anyone actually needs one, but they can be very useful to some which is why I love my Pebble so much.
 
2013-10-30 01:15:36 PM  

TNel: What's funny is if you go to any iWatch article they say Apple will sale 5 million in the first year of a device that every other article says isn't wanted or needed.


How does that make it different from any other Apple product?
 
2013-10-30 01:16:12 PM  
Nobody wanted tablets until they started making them either.  You'll want one when you see that the Joneses have them.
 
2013-10-30 01:17:45 PM  

simplicimus: TNel: What's funny is if you go to any iWatch article they say Apple will sale 5 million in the first year of a device that every other article says isn't wanted or needed.

How does that make it different from any other Apple product?


Hey I'm a huge Apple basher but the new Air pad is pretty damn nice.
 
2013-10-30 01:18:50 PM  

Nabb1: I have a 3D compatible TV, but when I got it, all the recent models of televisions that size were 3D. It wasn't that I wanted that feature, but the TV that I wanted happened to have it.


That's pretty much it.  I've been toying with the idea of replacing my TV, but I don't really care about 3D at all.  It's just included in any high quality set out there.  I'd much rather see more investment in full-array RGB LED backlighting with many more local dimming zones so that I would be able to find an LCD/LED set that could give me the black level and color quality of a plasma but without having to worry about the potential of burn-in.  OLED I suppose will eventually take care of that, and Sony is doing some good work with quantum dot color filters, but they're still focusing on edge-lighting to get thinner sets even though it's inferior from a performance POV.

Ashyukun: Most people won't have any use for a smartwatch. Many others- like me- actually will, or at least will definitely enjoy having one and find it useful. It's doubtful anyone actually needs one, but they can be very useful to some which is why I love my Pebble so much.


I don't really get the appeal, as I can just pull my phone out to check the time, weather, etc, if I want to.  If I'm going to wear a watch, I want something that will be a fashion statement - so analog dials, high quality materials, a nice design, etc, all take precedence over something I can do with the phone I already have in my pocket.
 
2013-10-30 01:19:16 PM  
Just like PC's were forced on the consumer as well, right?

Just because you can't see a market doesn't mean that one does not exist.

I want a smart watch. I like to exercise. Something like this would make my life much easier. I wouldn't have to slow down to change the music that I am listening to because I could do it right from a watch.
 
2013-10-30 01:20:18 PM  

Majick Thise: Make 3d TV's cheaper than 2d so even those who will never use the 3d buy them and you get some great sales numbers compared to the 2d


The problem is content.  There are relatively few 3D movies out, and most are dogshiat and/or not really shot in 3D, just converted in post-production.  And there aren't a whole lot of 3D channels.  Plus everybody who's watching needs 3D glasses.
 
2013-10-30 01:20:55 PM  
But enough about the Xbox One.
 
2013-10-30 01:31:17 PM  

cman: Just like PC's were forced on the consumer as well, right?

Just because you can't see a market doesn't mean that one does not exist.

I want a smart watch. I like to exercise. Something like this would make my life much easier. I wouldn't have to slow down to change the music that I am listening to because I could do it right from a watch.


My headphones that came with my S3 have a next and a skip button that works great, maybe get a different pair of buds.  My Sony bluetooth headphones even have a skip track built in.  Isn't your phone on an armband? I couldn't imagine running with one bouncing around in my pocket.
 
2013-10-30 01:32:47 PM  
Can someone explain to me why spending $200-$300 on a smart watch or some other piece of technology is "ZOMFG fanboi gaylord iCrap XBone Micro$oft ripofff !!1", but spending $90,000 on some car that will be driven to destruction in 5 years is considered a legitimate, intelligent use of expendable income?
 
2013-10-30 01:34:04 PM  

Fark It: Majick Thise: Make 3d TV's cheaper than 2d so even those who will never use the 3d buy them and you get some great sales numbers compared to the 2d

The problem is content.  There are relatively few 3D movies out, and most are dogshiat and/or not really shot in 3D, just converted in post-production.  And there aren't a whole lot of 3D channels.  Plus everybody who's watching needs 3D glasses.


And some of us don't have binocular vision and can't even complain about 3-D content or resolution.
 
2013-10-30 01:35:25 PM  
Every one said the iPad and the Galaxy Note lines would fail.

They didn't.

It's almost as if consumer electronics is a tricky business where some products succeed and some don't.
 
2013-10-30 01:40:58 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain to me why spending $200-$300 on a smart watch or some other piece of technology is "ZOMFG fanboi gaylord iCrap XBone Micro$oft ripofff !!1", but spending $90,000 on some car that will be driven to destruction in 5 years is considered a legitimate, intelligent use of expendable income?


What car has a shelf life of 5 years and costs $90k? Also who said it was an intelligent use of expendable income?
 
2013-10-30 01:45:41 PM  

TNel: cman: Just like PC's were forced on the consumer as well, right?

Just because you can't see a market doesn't mean that one does not exist.

I want a smart watch. I like to exercise. Something like this would make my life much easier. I wouldn't have to slow down to change the music that I am listening to because I could do it right from a watch.

My headphones that came with my S3 have a next and a skip button that works great, maybe get a different pair of buds.  My Sony bluetooth headphones even have a skip track built in.  Isn't your phone on an armband? I couldn't imagine running with one bouncing around in my pocket.


It is on my armband.

I don't use the regular Apple ear buds because their bass is extremely weak compared to what I have. These headphones have no controls on them.

To connect a watch via bluetooth to my phone would be awesome.
 
2013-10-30 01:47:08 PM  

TNel: sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain to me why spending $200-$300 on a smart watch or some other piece of technology is "ZOMFG fanboi gaylord iCrap XBone Micro$oft ripofff !!1", but spending $90,000 on some car that will be driven to destruction in 5 years is considered a legitimate, intelligent use of expendable income?

What car has a shelf life of 5 years and costs $90k? Also who said it was an intelligent use of expendable income?


I guess my point is, I don't understand what it is, specifically, about consumer electronics that gets people so f*cking riled up about how other people spend their money. What other consumer market inspires this level of outrage?

And I'm not necessarily saying people think that spending 90 grand on a car is an intelligent use of expendable income, but you certainly don't see them crying on the internet about it like whenever some new tech gadget comes out.
 
2013-10-30 02:04:02 PM  

RexTalionis: I want one.


of course you do. nerd.
 
2013-10-30 02:04:32 PM  
I'm told that the younger generation stopped wearing watched because they had smartphones. Now they are pushing that functionality back onto their wrists?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-30 02:04:50 PM  

sigdiamond2000: TNel: sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain to me why spending $200-$300 on a smart watch or some other piece of technology is "ZOMFG fanboi gaylord iCrap XBone Micro$oft ripofff !!1", but spending $90,000 on some car that will be driven to destruction in 5 years is considered a legitimate, intelligent use of expendable income?

What car has a shelf life of 5 years and costs $90k? Also who said it was an intelligent use of expendable income?



a Land Rover...
 
2013-10-30 02:05:03 PM  
I think you need to change your analogy because a 90k car is in a complete different bracket, only wealthy people buy cars that cost $90k.  The fact that most people can save up $200-$500 for a consumer electronic so you have a much wider audience.

There are legitimate gripes for some electronics and a lot of people right now are in the same mind that a $200 smartwatch is just not worth the price.  Watch sales have plummeted as everyone has a cellphone with a clock on it so why spend money on something you can already do I just don't think we should be heading back towards Dick Tracy era tech.
 
2013-10-30 02:05:29 PM  

Bukharin: RexTalionis: I want one.

of course you do. nerd.


There is a difference betwixt a nerd and a geek

Be sure to label him correctly
 
2013-10-30 02:07:12 PM  

plcow: sigdiamond2000: TNel: sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain to me why spending $200-$300 on a smart watch or some other piece of technology is "ZOMFG fanboi gaylord iCrap XBone Micro$oft ripofff !!1", but spending $90,000 on some car that will be driven to destruction in 5 years is considered a legitimate, intelligent use of expendable income?

What car has a shelf life of 5 years and costs $90k? Also who said it was an intelligent use of expendable income?


a Land Rover...


5 year life?!  I see all kinds of old ones for sale.
 
2013-10-30 02:07:39 PM  
How exactly are smartwatches being "forced" on anyone?
 
2013-10-30 02:09:55 PM  
I kinda want a Pebble watch for no real reason. I like that it's ePaper, because that means it's not another bright screen shining in my eyes. I like that it has a seven day battery life. I run, so I like that it's integrated with the running apps and I can just glance at my wrist.

I asked for one for Christmas. I specifically don't need one, it's the epitome of needless purchase, which is what Christmas is all about.
 
2013-10-30 02:10:28 PM  

cman: Bukharin: RexTalionis: I want one.

of course you do. nerd.

There is a difference betwixt a nerd and a geek

Be sure to label him correctly


Considering my educational background, I think I qualify as a nerd.
 
2013-10-30 02:12:53 PM  

Dust: Nobody wanted tablets until they started making them either.  You'll want one when you see that the Joneses have them.


Oh people are BUYING the Galaxy Gear. They just aren't KEEPING them, based of the above 30% return rate at Best Buy.
 
2013-10-30 02:13:15 PM  

Lord Dimwit: I kinda want a Pebble watch for no real reason. I like that it's ePaper, because that means it's not another bright screen shining in my eyes. I like that it has a seven day battery life. I run, so I like that it's integrated with the running apps and I can just glance at my wrist.

I asked for one for Christmas. I specifically don't need one, it's the epitome of needless purchase, which is what Christmas is all about.


I investigated getting one.

Yes, it has those functions, but it also takes about 20-30% of your phone's battery life since it's always tethered to your phone with bluetooth.
 
2013-10-30 02:14:04 PM  
I'm old enough to remember when the first digital watches appeared in the 80s. They had a zillion buttons and functions and games and crap, and all the cool kids had them.

I'm reminiscing.

Dammit.
 
2013-10-30 02:14:17 PM  

Wellon Dowd: I'm told that the younger generation stopped wearing watched because they had smartphones. Now they are pushing that functionality back onto their wrists?

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]


I love it. It's so bad!
 
2013-10-30 02:15:11 PM  

RexTalionis: Lord Dimwit: I kinda want a Pebble watch for no real reason. I like that it's ePaper, because that means it's not another bright screen shining in my eyes. I like that it has a seven day battery life. I run, so I like that it's integrated with the running apps and I can just glance at my wrist.

I asked for one for Christmas. I specifically don't need one, it's the epitome of needless purchase, which is what Christmas is all about.

I investigated getting one.

Yes, it has those functions, but it also takes about 20-30% of your phone's battery life since it's always tethered to your phone with bluetooth.


Eh. I also like to tinker and the SDK is interesting if anything.
 
2013-10-30 02:16:38 PM  

TNel: plcow: sigdiamond2000: TNel: sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain to me why spending $200-$300 on a smart watch or some other piece of technology is "ZOMFG fanboi gaylord iCrap XBone Micro$oft ripofff !!1", but spending $90,000 on some car that will be driven to destruction in 5 years is considered a legitimate, intelligent use of expendable income?

What car has a shelf life of 5 years and costs $90k? Also who said it was an intelligent use of expendable income?


a Land Rover...

5 year life?!  I see all kinds of old ones for sale.


Buying an old luxury car is usually not a great idea.  The majority of new ones are leased instead of bought outright, as those with the money to have them tend to also always want to be seen in the newest model, or just have the money to do that anyway.  The depreciation on luxury cars is huge compared to most mainstream models because of this.

Then they show up on the used market, and some guy thinks 'wow, I could buy a used Range Rover for the same price as this new Ford Explorer  or a used S-Class for the same price as this new Avalon, why shouldn't I roll in style?' which is all well in good, until the first service bills start to hit and that new owner realizes that while he bought a $100,000 car for $40,000, the maintenance, replacement parts, and repairs, still cost what they would on a $100,000 car.  A few $1,000 scheduled maintenance visits, $2,000 tire or brake jobs, or $2,500 unexpected repairs later and that used luxury car is right back on the market while the now wiser owner starts shopping for something he can actually afford to maintain.
 
2013-10-30 02:19:30 PM  

Barfmaker: I'd also like to have, instead of an iPad, an iPad-like device that has no brains of its own and I actually dock my iPhone in so it's still my phone but in an iPad configuration...if you see what I mean.


www.technobuffalo.com
 
2013-10-30 02:21:28 PM  

Honest Bender: Barfmaker: I'd also like to have, instead of an iPad, an iPad-like device that has no brains of its own and I actually dock my iPhone in so it's still my phone but in an iPad configuration...if you see what I mean.

[www.technobuffalo.com image 350x237]


I think he's looking for something like this:

cdn1.sbnation.com

Asus Padfone 2 - the brains is in the Phone portion, which docks into a tablet body that holds extra batteries and a 10 inch screen.
 
2013-10-30 02:21:57 PM  
I haven't worn a watch in over 15 years, just because there are clocks in every other device these days, and I was never a fan of the encumbrance and uncomfortable feeling.

But my next cellphone purchase will be smart-watch compatible.  I like the idea of checking my wrist to see if I want to take a call or answer a text.  It's less distracting to other tasks I may be doing, and way less rude to other people.
 
2013-10-30 02:22:28 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Dust: Nobody wanted tablets until they started making them either.  You'll want one when you see that the Joneses have them.

Oh people are BUYING the Galaxy Gear. They just aren't KEEPING them, based of the above 30% return rate at Best Buy.


Blame BestBuy, the salesmen should have let them know what phones are compatible with the device.  I think Note 3 is the only one full supported right now until mid november when S3/S4 gets the update.  The device just came out and peole are biatching that some apps don't work right?!  WTH it's brand new give it a month or so and most apps will have updated and support it.
 
2013-10-30 02:24:14 PM  
I'm a borderline junky when it comes to mobile technology but I'm just not wearing a watch regardless of what it can do.

I might reconsider if someone rolls out a Pip-Boy 3000.
 
2013-10-30 02:24:47 PM  
www.showyourlogo.com

 Unbelievable battery life.  Gives time, date and day of week in "real time".  Alarm features.     $6.99 at Walmart.
 
2013-10-30 02:25:02 PM  
Don't people use a wrist thingy to put their phones there and use it like a watch?

The Gear seems both smart and stupid, mostly stupid.
 
2013-10-30 02:28:37 PM  

Blues_X: I want a 3d tv. Especially when these are finally available:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1495465/ultra-d-glasses-free-3d-update


The post in your link suggest the viewer was watching a movie that was being 3d converted realtime...

"The conversion I saw today looked extremely accurate-possibly superior some Hollywood studio 2D-3D conversions. We used The Avengers playing off a 2D Blu-ray as the demo material, and I felt that the auto conversion of that movie was on par with the studio conversion. "

This can't be real. A 3d conversion of a 2d movie takes literally thousands of people (we're talking 200,000) thousands upon thousands of hours to make a 2d to 3d conversion. A computer that could do that realtime is many many decades away.

The reviewer in all likelihood was watching a 3d blu-ray without knowing it and is just out of touch with the technology.
 
2013-10-30 02:35:05 PM  
Take an iPod Nano:

www5.pcmag.com

Duct tape it:

www.artsjournal.com

To your wrist:

www.hand2shouldermd.com


Boom, smartwatch

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-10-30 02:35:47 PM  
I'll leave 'em to you kids. I'm having trouble seeing my phone's display and I'll be damned if I'm gonna slip on a pair of glasses to look at a watch.
 
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