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(CNN)   Not to put a crimp into your breakfast drinking, but the world is facing a global wine shortage, and it's only going to get worse. EVERYBODY PANIC   (money.cnn.com) divider line 124
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2013-10-30 09:22:18 AM
Don't worry, the Chinese can just make more counterfeits.
 
2013-10-30 09:24:32 AM
Stop whining.
 
2013-10-30 09:33:58 AM
If there is anyone who can figure out how to produce lots of cheap low quality wine, it's the Chinese.

/Strong blackberry flavors with undernotes of melamine, lead, and glycol
 
2013-10-30 09:34:32 AM
I love how these "shortages" start cropping up around the holidays - and always have to do with something that is consumed in greater abundance around the same time.  Two years ago, it was a turkey shortage.  Grocery stores had left over Thanksgiving turkeys until March.
 
2013-10-30 09:35:42 AM
Oh well...back to Sterno for me!
 
2013-10-30 09:42:00 AM

EvilEgg: If there is anyone who can figure out how to produce lots of cheap low quality wine, it's the Chinese.

/Strong blackberry flavors with undernotes of melamine, lead, and glycol


I came here to make that joke, damn you.

/you did it better than I would have
 
2013-10-30 09:46:23 AM
I know, I was at the grocery store the other day and I was like "Only a thousand bottle inventory wtf?" I had to drive all the way across the strip mall to go to the specialty wine store to browse through a decent selection. This shortage sucks.
 
2013-10-30 09:59:48 AM
There is plenty of wine at my local liquor stores. Also the local Mexican restaurant has $10 pitchers of Sangria, same as they always have.
 
2013-10-30 10:04:36 AM
I'm good.

/lives in the Finger Lakes
//harvest was "nearly perfect" this year
 
2013-10-30 10:19:45 AM
There's plenty of beer
 
2013-10-30 10:52:17 AM
Note to self: Add fifty cases of grain alcohol and 50 pounds of instant Welch's grape juice to shelter.
 
2013-10-30 10:52:18 AM
wine kits are cheap at the homebrew store.
 
2013-10-30 10:52:45 AM
I live in wine country.  Sucks to be you.  BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

/don't believe there's any shortage
//and even if there were, there's always liquor!
 
2013-10-30 10:53:05 AM
"EVERYBODY BETTER BUY WINE NOW!!!!"

-Wine producers worldwide
 
2013-10-30 10:53:11 AM
Not a problem. I can make plenty in the turlit
 
2013-10-30 10:53:22 AM
This is where I get my wine. Should be good for awhile but I hope the shortage doesn't come to pass!

acquistapaces.com
 
2013-10-30 10:54:12 AM
oh noes, the extremely high end wine market is having competition from the Chinese.  My CEO might only be able to afford 3 yachts this year thanks to the bidding competition.
 
2013-10-30 10:55:07 AM
There's still lots of vodak, right? RIGHT?
 
2013-10-30 10:55:13 AM
That is what spirits are for.
 
2013-10-30 10:56:05 AM

ashinmytomatoes: This is where I get my wine. Should be good for awhile but I hope the shortage doesn't come to pass!

[acquistapaces.com image 800x600]


Lee's? Looks like one.
 
2013-10-30 10:57:02 AM
The article is written poorly. Not a shortage per se, increased demand will increase prices.

Bad for me as a drinker, but good for me on the slight chance that I decide to retire to a vineyard.
 
2013-10-30 10:57:39 AM

ashinmytomatoes: This is where I get my wine. Should be good for awhile but I hope the shortage doesn't come to pass!

[acquistapaces.com image 800x600]


What's sad is that I recognize a good chunk of those wines in the Australia section and hve drunk at least half of them (Penfolds top centre).

/noting the Bordeaux shortage at my local LCBO
 
2013-10-30 10:57:43 AM
Arbor Mist will always been in stock because no one drinks that shiat
 
2013-10-30 10:57:50 AM

Farxist Marxist: ashinmytomatoes: This is where I get my wine. Should be good for awhile but I hope the shortage doesn't come to pass!

[acquistapaces.com image 800x600]

Lee's? Looks like one.


Acquistapace's, a great local supermarket.
 
2013-10-30 10:58:00 AM
This is a job for Jesus!
 
2013-10-30 10:59:12 AM
This won't be a popular opinion but as a sober Farker I don't really think any of you would suffer too much if we have a few shortages.
I gave up six years ago (almost to the day) and while my wine intake was impressive in both quality and quantity I've not missed it once.
There are other ways of unwinding, socializing and coping with stress, if you drink for those reasons.
If you just like the taste then there are other nice tasting things.
There aren't many other things that sell such an illusion of well-being though, so if you're into that you might want to stockpile...
 
2013-10-30 10:59:33 AM

ashinmytomatoes: This is where I get my wine. Should be good for awhile but I hope the shortage doesn't come to pass!

[acquistapaces.com image 800x600]


Shouldn't wine be stored on it's side?
 
2013-10-30 10:59:59 AM
BULLCHIT!
SHANANNIGANS!
CRAPPY MERCHANDISING!

peak wine? really?
 
2013-10-30 11:00:33 AM

Literally Addicted: ashinmytomatoes: This is where I get my wine. Should be good for awhile but I hope the shortage doesn't come to pass!

[acquistapaces.com image 800x600]

What's sad is that I recognize a good chunk of those wines in the Australia section and hve have drunk at least half of them (Penfolds top centre).

/noting the Bordeaux shortage at my local LCBO


Looks like I've already started today.
 
2013-10-30 11:01:00 AM

Diogenes: Oh well...back to Sterno for me!


It's a good cure-all for the Andromeda Strain.

/that and just waiting for the wind to blow it away
//awesome movie, crappy ending
 
2013-10-30 11:01:56 AM

Solty Dog: ashinmytomatoes: This is where I get my wine. Should be good for awhile but I hope the shortage doesn't come to pass!

[acquistapaces.com image 800x600]

Shouldn't wine be stored on it's side?


Bag in a box wine does not matter, even if it pretends to be a bottle wine.
 
2013-10-30 11:02:02 AM

YoOjo: This won't be a popular opinion but as a sober Farker I don't really think any of you would suffer too much if we have a few shortages.
I gave up six years ago (almost to the day) and while my wine intake was impressive in both quality and quantity I've not missed it once.
There are other ways of unwinding, socializing and coping with stress, if you drink for those reasons.
If you just like the taste then there are other nice tasting things.
There aren't many other things that sell such an illusion of well-being though, so if you're into that you might want to stockpile...


Which of the 12 steps involves trolling and/or insulting everyone else?
 
2013-10-30 11:02:11 AM
videos.videopress.com
 
2013-10-30 11:03:09 AM

Solty Dog: ashinmytomatoes: This is where I get my wine. Should be good for awhile but I hope the shortage doesn't come to pass!

[acquistapaces.com image 800x600]

Shouldn't wine be stored on it's side?


Good point. I should note, that is the booze dept. of the grocery store where I buy my wine, not my personal cellar. Heh. I wish.
 
2013-10-30 11:03:53 AM
I don't know where you get your wine, but, where I get mine, they got all socially aware and switched to marijuana.
 
2013-10-30 11:04:13 AM

Carn: wine kits are cheap at the homebrew store.


I just racked a batch of apple wine the other day. It's still very, very green and it still needs a bit of time to mature, but it'll get you drunk in a pinch. I won't bottle it for another few months anyhow.

I think the whole 5 gallon batch probably cost me like $20. We already had the apples. I just had to buy a 10 gallon bucket for the initial fermentation (and my beer buckets won't cut it for that), yeast, yeast nutrients, sugar, and campden tabs.

Next year, I will make peach wine. I made a couple of batches of peach beer (wheat and blonde), but I'm not a huge fan of it. Once the sugar ferments out, peaches are very tart. Again, it will probably cost me a few dollars to make 5 gallons.
 
2013-10-30 11:05:37 AM
Beer supply is OK, right? I'll cool then.
 
2013-10-30 11:08:16 AM

Tarl3k: "EVERYBODY BETTER BUY WINE NOW!!!!"

-Wine producers worldwide


Works for small arms sales.
 
2013-10-30 11:09:11 AM

ladodger34: Carn: wine kits are cheap at the homebrew store.

I just racked a batch of apple wine the other day. It's still very, very green and it still needs a bit of time to mature, but it'll get you drunk in a pinch. I won't bottle it for another few months anyhow.

I think the whole 5 gallon batch probably cost me like $20. We already had the apples. I just had to buy a 10 gallon bucket for the initial fermentation (and my beer buckets won't cut it for that), yeast, yeast nutrients, sugar, and campden tabs.

Next year, I will make peach wine. I made a couple of batches of peach beer (wheat and blonde), but I'm not a huge fan of it. Once the sugar ferments out, peaches are very tart. Again, it will probably cost me a few dollars to make 5 gallons.


I haven't made apple wine but I have done cider.  So quick and easy.  I like tart - maybe 1/2 and 1/2 peaches and apple cider?
 
2013-10-30 11:12:51 AM
Fear not. I made plenty this year, and my yeast strain is still alive. As long as you don't mind young wine, anyway. It's a little rough on the edges still.

In fact, here's my PSA for this thread: Cheap wine 101.

Pick up a 2 bottles of 100% grape juice from the grocery. Store brand is fine, Welch's is funny if you're into the history of wine. Pour them in a sterile stockpot. Add one gallon of water, 3 pounds of sugar, and a packet of wine yeast from the homebrew store. Put the lid on your stockpot, put a trash bag over the whole thing, and bungee that down to make a loose airlock.

Wait two weeks, and siphon out into smaller containers, taking care not to disturb the sludge at the bottom of the pot. Congrats, you've got two gallons of wine.

Now, it's going to be a bit rough. You might want to consider aging in a secondary fermenter, and you probably want to refrigerate your batch, both to stop any additional fermentation and for reasons of flavor... but, hey, it's pretty foolproof. And it's under $0.70 a bottle- keep that in mind when you have expectations.

Careful, though- once you start making wine, it's addictive.
 
2013-10-30 11:15:21 AM

Carn: ladodger34: Carn: wine kits are cheap at the homebrew store.

I just racked a batch of apple wine the other day. It's still very, very green and it still needs a bit of time to mature, but it'll get you drunk in a pinch. I won't bottle it for another few months anyhow.

I think the whole 5 gallon batch probably cost me like $20. We already had the apples. I just had to buy a 10 gallon bucket for the initial fermentation (and my beer buckets won't cut it for that), yeast, yeast nutrients, sugar, and campden tabs.

Next year, I will make peach wine. I made a couple of batches of peach beer (wheat and blonde), but I'm not a huge fan of it. Once the sugar ferments out, peaches are very tart. Again, it will probably cost me a few dollars to make 5 gallons.

I haven't made apple wine but I have done cider.  So quick and easy.  I like tart - maybe 1/2 and 1/2 peaches and apple cider?


I've made apple cider. I'm not bragging (cause I got the recipe from Homebrew Talk), but it ruined commercial cider for my wife. I need to make another batch.

The good thing with wine (as opposed to beer and cider) is that you can backsweeten it before you bottle. You can do that with cider too, but you have to make it a still cider rather than bubbly stuff.

Btw, if you can make beer, you can make wine. It's just a longer process. The apple wine was just an experiment because by the end of our July (our tree fruits in early summer), we are pretty damned sick of all things apple.
 
2013-10-30 11:15:29 AM
They will never be a shortage of Night Train.
 
2013-10-30 11:17:00 AM
Note to self: stop by BevMo on way home from work.
 
2013-10-30 11:17:15 AM

FrancoFile: YoOjo: This won't be a popular opinion but as a sober Farker I don't really think any of you would suffer too much if we have a few shortages.
I gave up six years ago (almost to the day) and while my wine intake was impressive in both quality and quantity I've not missed it once.
There are other ways of unwinding, socializing and coping with stress, if you drink for those reasons.
If you just like the taste then there are other nice tasting things.
There aren't many other things that sell such an illusion of well-being though, so if you're into that you might want to stockpile...

Which of the 12 steps involves trolling and/or insulting everyone else?


Don't know, not into the whole Christian support group method of abstinence. I just told myself to quit and did.
Also, not sure I insulted 'everyone else'. You might be being a little sensitive maybe. I imagine you took exception to the 'illusion of well-being' part but did everyone? Anyway, I really don't think that was insulting to anyone, we've all fell foul of magical alcohol and the magical feelings of awesomeness it temporarily provides. I think it's funny. My comment was funny, to me.
As for trolling, I'm at the point now where I just assume most people throwing that one about is a troll themselves, it's just so easy for lazy folk to indignantly say that rather than anything accurate.
 
2013-10-30 11:17:50 AM
And seriously, will there ever be a shortage of Carlo Rossi?
 
2013-10-30 11:17:56 AM

YoOjo: This won't be a popular opinion but as a sober Farker I don't really think any of you would suffer too much if we have a few shortages.
I gave up six years ago (almost to the day) and while my wine intake was impressive in both quality and quantity I've not missed it once.
There are other ways of unwinding, socializing and coping with stress, if you drink for those reasons.
If you just like the taste then there are other nice tasting things.
There aren't many other things that sell such an illusion of well-being though, so if you're into that you might want to stockpile...


Ummm... Notsureifserious.jpg
 
2013-10-30 11:19:49 AM

namegoeshere: I'm good.

/lives in the Finger Lakes
//harvest was "nearly perfect" this year


I drive through there periodically for work. I plan on making a weekend trip to Seneca Lake some time enxt spring/summer. Any particular vinyard you recommend?
 
2013-10-30 11:20:42 AM
Plenty of tank car wine for the serfs.
No worries.
 
2013-10-30 11:22:06 AM

YoOjo: I don't really think any of you would suffer too much if we have a few shortages.


This statement is true about everything one doesn't personally care about.
 
2013-10-30 11:25:07 AM

ladodger34: Carn: ladodger34: Carn: wine kits are cheap at the homebrew store.

I just racked a batch of apple wine the other day. It's still very, very green and it still needs a bit of time to mature, but it'll get you drunk in a pinch. I won't bottle it for another few months anyhow.

I think the whole 5 gallon batch probably cost me like $20. We already had the apples. I just had to buy a 10 gallon bucket for the initial fermentation (and my beer buckets won't cut it for that), yeast, yeast nutrients, sugar, and campden tabs.

Next year, I will make peach wine. I made a couple of batches of peach beer (wheat and blonde), but I'm not a huge fan of it. Once the sugar ferments out, peaches are very tart. Again, it will probably cost me a few dollars to make 5 gallons.

I haven't made apple wine but I have done cider.  So quick and easy.  I like tart - maybe 1/2 and 1/2 peaches and apple cider?

I've made apple cider. I'm not bragging (cause I got the recipe from Homebrew Talk), but it ruined commercial cider for my wife. I need to make another batch.

The good thing with wine (as opposed to beer and cider) is that you can backsweeten it before you bottle. You can do that with cider too, but you have to make it a still cider rather than bubbly stuff.

Btw, if you can make beer, you can make wine. It's just a longer process. The apple wine was just an experiment because by the end of our July (our tree fruits in early summer), we are pretty damned sick of all things apple.


Sounds fun to me.  I'm more of a beer guy but I do like wine and anything home made gets the bump in taste from "I made it!".
 
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