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(CNN)   Stocks get perky at the thought of what the Feds will do to them later. You naughty stockbroker. Spank my 401k, make me feel it   (money.cnn.com ) divider line
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2013-10-30 11:50:16 AM  
I'll be in my bank.
 
2013-10-30 12:06:13 PM  
Stocks go up, stocks go down. You can't explain that.
 
2013-10-30 12:24:18 PM  
Nicely played head (line), subby.
+1
 
2013-10-30 12:25:01 PM  

swaxhog: Stocks go up, stocks go down. You can't explain predict that.


You can explain why a stock went up or down AFTER those actions take place...the real magic is duping the rubes into believing your explanation of the past gives credibility to prediction of future events.
 
2013-10-30 12:28:53 PM  
When should I put all of my 401K into a guarantied growth?
 
2013-10-30 12:31:56 PM  

BobCumbers: When should I put all of my 401K into a guarantied growth?


Probably not until 16 at the soonest. Yelen has promised to keep QE up which is the prime reason for the gains. Amazing how liberals keep disparaging the income gap growth even though their own Fed policies are largely responsible for it under Obama.
 
2013-10-30 12:35:18 PM  

MyRandomName: BobCumbers: When should I put all of my 401K into a guarantied growth?

Probably not until 16 at the soonest. Yelen has promised to keep QE up which is the prime reason for the gains. Amazing how liberals keep disparaging the income gap growth even though their own Fed policies are largely responsible for it under Obama.


yes, because the policies under Bush brought us to economic paradise

the wage disparity is what most people are pissed about. Drive minimum wage up to $10 an hour and we'll suddenly have more money going into the system
 
2013-10-30 01:16:23 PM  

somedude210: MyRandomName: BobCumbers: When should I put all of my 401K into a guarantied growth?

Probably not until 16 at the soonest. Yelen has promised to keep QE up which is the prime reason for the gains. Amazing how liberals keep disparaging the income gap growth even though their own Fed policies are largely responsible for it under Obama.

yes, because the policies under Bush brought us to economic paradise

the wage disparity is what most people are pissed about. Drive minimum wage up to $10 an hour and we'll suddenly have more money going into the system


That's like saying if you give the wife 200 to spend, you have increased household spending ability.
 
2013-10-30 01:45:37 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: That's like saying if you give the wife 200 to spend, you have increased household spending ability.


well...you did. The wife previously did not have $200 to spend. You opening up your coffers to give her the $200 so she could spend it on whatever she wanted put more money back into the economy, because otherwise you were just going to sit on that money and do nothing with it. Household spending does go up because, again, that money wouldn't have moved anywhere in the economy.

you being the employer in this metaphor, your wife being the employee.
 
2013-10-30 02:04:34 PM  

somedude210: otherwise you were just going to sit on that money and do nothing with it.


THIS IS NOT NOW SAVING MONEY WORKS

Fractional reserve banking - look it up.
 
2013-10-30 02:08:43 PM  

MyRandomName: BobCumbers: When should I put all of my 401K into a guarantied growth?

Probably not until 16 at the soonest. Yelen has promised to keep QE up which is the prime reason for the gains. Amazing how liberals keep disparaging the income gap growth even though their own Fed policies are largely responsible for it under Obama.


Way to derail the thread assmunch
 
2013-10-30 02:35:39 PM  
I've been a bad, bad Ira...
 
2013-10-30 02:37:24 PM  

Ponzholio: I've been a bad, bad Ira...


sounds like you need your portfolio flipped through....
 
2013-10-30 02:53:05 PM  
Wouldn't put all my money into the market, and certainly not into a basket of Dow, S&P or NASDAQ stocks. There are a few good bets to be had if you've got even a little bit of insight into which direction things are going in the future. For example, if I had any money, I'd be betting long term on things like solar & wind power, and electric car companies. Maybe Tesla displaces GM at some point in the future. Wouldn't you like to have gotten in on that early?
 
2013-10-30 03:02:45 PM  

CokeBear: Wouldn't put all my money into the market, and certainly not into a basket of Dow, S&P or NASDAQ stocks. There are a few good bets to be had if you've got even a little bit of insight into which direction things are going in the future. For example, if I had any money, I'd be betting long term on things like solar & wind power, and electric car companies. Maybe Tesla displaces GM at some point in the future. Wouldn't you like to have gotten in on that early?


Early would have been a long time ago.  With a PEG ratio of 38 (38!) you'd be extremely late to Tesla.
 
2013-10-30 03:52:51 PM  

relaxitsjustme: MyRandomName: BobCumbers: When should I put all of my 401K into a guarantied growth?

Probably not until 16 at the soonest. Yelen has promised to keep QE up which is the prime reason for the gains. Amazing how liberals keep disparaging the income gap growth even though their own Fed policies are largely responsible for it under Obama.

Way to derail the thread assmunch


He has to post in certain threads, even if he knows nothing about the subject under discussion - so he'll just post some random, vaguely right-wing trolls. That's why he has that handle.
He's actually a gimmick account, but Fark doesn't ban them like SA does.
 
2013-10-30 04:09:58 PM  

CokeBear: Wouldn't put all my money into the market, and certainly not into a basket of Dow, S&P or NASDAQ stocks. There are a few good bets to be had if you've got even a little bit of insight into which direction things are going in the future. For example, if I had any money, I'd be betting long term on things like solar & wind power, and electric car companies. Maybe Tesla displaces GM at some point in the future. Wouldn't you like to have gotten in on that early?


You're quite a visionary, but if you would have bought GM in the summer of 2012, you would have nearly doubled your money in a little over a year and still own a pretty cheap stock that today just announced they're beating their earnings expectation for Q3 . That's what you should be kicking yourself over.
 
2013-10-30 04:19:13 PM  

swaxhog: Stocks go up, stocks go down. You can't explain that.


That is actually true. Random algorithms have been shown to do just fine in the market, along with pigeons, monkeys, and babies, and other critters.

Google "Illusion of Control" and "Cognitive Bias".
 
2013-10-30 04:53:15 PM  

somedude210: Nutsac_Jim: That's like saying if you give the wife 200 to spend, you have increased household spending ability.

well...you did. The wife previously did not have $200 to spend. You opening up your coffers to give her the $200 so she could spend it on whatever she wanted put more money back into the economy, because otherwise you were just going to sit on that money and do nothing with it. Household spending does go up because, again, that money wouldn't have moved anywhere in the economy.

you being the employer in this metaphor, your wife being the employee.


And your employer can not use that money to buy more product, so there is no gain.  See broken window fallacy.
 
2013-10-30 06:13:29 PM  
Something something bondage joke.
 
2013-10-30 10:00:25 PM  

InmanRoshi: CokeBear:if I had any money, I'd be betting long term on things like *solar* & wind power, and electric car companies. Maybe Tesla displaces GM at some point in the future. Wouldn't you like to have gotten in on that early?

You're quite a visionary, but if you would have bought GM in the summer of 2012, you would have nearly doubled your money in a little over a year and still own a pretty cheap stock that today just announced they're beating their earnings expectation for Q3 . That's what you should be kicking yourself over.


Canadian Solar Inc. (CSIQ) from about $2.63 to $23.31 in the last year. 786%
First Solar, Inc. (FSLR) from about $24.30 to $51.40 in the last year. 111%
Hanwha Solarone Co., Ltd. (HSOL) from about $1.00 to $4.23 in the last year. 323%
Ja Solar Holdings, Co., Ltd. (JASO) from about $3.46 to $9.71. 180%
Jinkosolar Holding Company (JKS) from about $3.94 to $21.68. 450%
Solarcity Corp (SCTY) $11.79 to $55.11. 367%
Renesola Ltd. (SOL) $1.32 to $4.35. 229%
Sunedison, Inc. (SUNE) $2.52 to $9.46. 275% (How do I love thee. let me count the ways)

Ride the snake, baby!
 
2013-10-31 04:36:18 AM  

somedude210: the wage disparity is what most people are pissed about. Drive minimum wage up to $10 an hour and we'll suddenly have more money going into the system


Only if the money (well, the wealth, really... the actual goods and services that the money represents) is beamed in from an alternate universe. Say's Law is about the only thing that every economist agrees with.
 
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