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(Mother Nature Network)   Instead of admitting you're broke, why not just tell people you choose intentional poverty?   (mnn.com) divider line 114
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2013-10-30 02:16:50 AM  
It's called "becoming a hermit" and it ain't exactly new.
 
2013-10-30 02:48:20 AM  
I'm an unintentional hermit, and I'm proud.
 
2013-10-30 07:37:00 AM  

MrBallou: It's called "becoming a hermit" and it ain't exactly new.


Jeez, don't be so crabby.
 
2013-10-30 08:48:21 AM  
Because we're tired of hipsters?
 
2013-10-30 09:14:16 AM  
You ain't poor if you have money you choose not to spend.
 
2013-10-30 09:24:57 AM  
And like many people, as much as I'd like to, I can't. Nobody is willing to buy my home for what I owe to the bank, so until that changes (or I pay off more of the mortgage), I'm stuck.

It's called bankruptcy and it's an option worth considering in many cases.  You're never `stuck' unless you have student loans, then may god have mercy on your soul.
 
2013-10-30 09:36:52 AM  
I'd be fine with intentional poverty (provided I had internet like that guy). Seems like the stuff I do spend money on is just to enable me to go to work. If I didn't have to drive to work, I wouldn't need a car. If I lived in a nice place like Hawaii, I wouldn't need to spend as much making sure I don't freeze to death. I think it's cool that people are looking at the modern cycle of making more money to spend more money and opting out.
 
2013-10-30 10:12:11 AM  
Speaking from my own experience, I think you'd have to be an idiot of extraordinary magnitude to WANT to live like this
 
2013-10-30 10:26:59 AM  
I'm not a minimalist, but I'm certainly not a materialist either, and I don't understand people that label themselves as "ambitious." Ambitious for what? To continue to work your shiat job in a needless industry, and get promoted so you can buy more shiat you don't need and will never make you happy?

I don't know that ambition has ever led anywhere good. A mixture of curiosity, creativity, and obsession have done a lot for us, but ambition is just more of an ego thing that disregards the needs of many others in favor of your own. Yet so many lives are predicated on being good ambitious little producers, and the word tends to look impressive on a resume or dating profile.

I'm more in line with this article than living up to our contemporary version of success. Strip out the shiat you don't need, and live a simpler happier life.
 
2013-10-30 10:58:45 AM  
Is that what they're calling bums now?
 
2013-10-30 10:59:01 AM  

Diogenes: Because we're tired of hipsters?


Thank You!! I am sick of them, but they just keep popping up. I cannot walk into a decent coffee shop or even a café without seeing or hearing one of those farking people excited to express they are more different than someone else.
 
2013-10-30 10:59:51 AM  
"No, Jules. You've decided to be a bum. Just like those pieces of shiat out there who beg for change, sleep in garbage bins and eat what I throw away. They got a name for that, Jules: it's called "a bum". And without a job, a residence or legal tender, that's exactly what you're going to be: a farking bum."
 
2013-10-30 11:00:15 AM  

paygun: Is that what they're calling bums now?


They're BETTER than you, so they are ascetics or saints, or something.
 
2013-10-30 11:00:29 AM  
Story reminded me of this guy, him and his wife were having financial trouble so he built a big greenhouse to feed them and make extra money. Intresting watch, it's on youtube...

One Man's Quest - Citizen Peng
 
2013-10-30 11:02:24 AM  
I know several people who have chosen intentional poverty and it really works well for them.

//Life's all about the choices you make.
 
2013-10-30 11:05:32 AM  
No mention of Hippies yet?  Or have hipsters taken them over?
 
2013-10-30 11:07:42 AM  

why not just tell people you choose intentional poverty?


Possibly because you will sound like a rationalizing loser in denial.
 
2013-10-30 11:10:22 AM  
FTA:  I realized that literally 90 percent of my life was taken up doing stuff for my stuff, maintaining my stuff and saving up money to buy more stuff I thought I needed

"Calling Mr. Carlin.  Mr. Carlin to the white courtesy phone please"
 
2013-10-30 11:11:09 AM  
My grandparents lived in poverty and were very happy.
My parents lived in poverty and were very happy.
I don't live in poverty and I am happy.

/different strokes
 
2013-10-30 11:12:16 AM  

MrBallou: It's called "becoming a hermit" and it ain't exactly new.


Diogenes: Because we're tired of hipsters?


It's pretty obscure; you've probably never heard of it...
 
2013-10-30 11:15:06 AM  
I don't want to be broke when I retire.

That's all.
 
2013-10-30 11:15:30 AM  
Noah Rondeau approves.
 
2013-10-30 11:15:49 AM  
I thought the poor in America see themselves as "future millionaires" because the American Dream is totally real and happens to people who just want it badly enough. Of course, these same people see the rest of the poor as "deserving poor" in the Victorian sense; benefits scroungers, the lot of them. And then they vote against all their interests and wellbeing because freedom.
 
2013-10-30 11:16:39 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: I'd be fine with intentional poverty (provided I had internet like that guy). Seems like the stuff I do spend money on is just to enable me to go to work. If I didn't have to drive to work, I wouldn't need a car. If I lived in a nice place like Hawaii, I wouldn't need to spend as much making sure I don't freeze to death. I think it's cool that people are looking at the modern cycle of making more money to spend more money and opting out.


"God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shiat we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off. "
 
2013-10-30 11:17:16 AM  
This appeals to me. It doesn't appeal to my wife.
 
2013-10-30 11:17:31 AM  
i1.ytimg.com

"Wretchedly poor? Do you wear one of those barrels with the straps?"
 
2013-10-30 11:19:39 AM  
Whatever happened to "The noble poor"? Has that changed to "Intentional poverty"?
 
2013-10-30 11:19:56 AM  
It's a lot easier to live a simple life if you're rich.
 
2013-10-30 11:21:10 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

I'll just leave this here.
 
2013-10-30 11:22:23 AM  
lh4.googleusercontent.com

"No, Jules. You've decided to be a bum. Just like those pieces of shiat out there who beg for change, sleep in garbage bins and eat what I throw away. They got a name for that, Jules: it's called "a bum". And without a job, a residence or legal tender, that's exactly what you're going to be: a farking bum."
 
2013-10-30 11:23:26 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I don't want to be broke when I retire.

That's all.


This.  And if I can retire when I'm 55, fark yeah!  Or at least retire from current career and then go work whatever job I want for whatever money since I don't have to worry about basic necessities any more.  I'm not going to skip to that step and go live in a box.
 
2013-10-30 11:24:51 AM  
Sorry kids, this is what economic collapse looks like.
It's not fast, but it's profound and goes on and on.

/You won't be rich when you die.
 
2013-10-30 11:25:35 AM  
A long time ago I realized that there was no excitement in purchases anymore.  That really... it's almost soul sucking.
Then I discovered mail order delivery and it's like a kid in a candy store!

NEW PACKAGE IN THE MAIL!?! What could it be?!  It's like Christmas every week :-D
 
2013-10-30 11:25:51 AM  
I like FARK's approach to minimalism, saving resources by recycling.  Recycling things like this story from what, last week?
 
2013-10-30 11:27:03 AM  
Sorry, I like all the conveniences of modern living. And I'm thankful that I can afford the lifestyle, running water, electricity, heat in the winter, cool in the summer, food in the fridge, the roof over my head, a place to sleep and a laptop to Fark around on.
 
2013-10-30 11:27:32 AM  
I've been broke, and I've had money. IMHO, having money is better.
 
2013-10-30 11:28:08 AM  

seniorgato: A long time ago I realized that there was no excitement in purchases anymore.  That really... it's almost soul sucking.
Then I discovered mail order delivery and it's like a kid in a candy store!

NEW PACKAGE IN THE MAIL!?! What could it be?!  It's like Christmas every week :-D


Amazon Prime just might be your heroin.
 
2013-10-30 11:28:16 AM  
Not many options at that end of the social scale, it's pretty much bootstraps time, or slow-suicide by intoxicants, or fast suicide. Not sure if I missed any, assuming that asking for help falls under 'bootstraps'.
So, I guess accepting your lot and claiming intentional poverty is a fourth option? Option two would help with the process.
 
2013-10-30 11:28:18 AM  
I didn't take it as far as those people, but I use to make 3 times what I do now, but also I was working 8-12 hours a day. Commuting to work, fighting traffic, but hey I had nice stuff, I had a 2 yr old BMW (at the time), luxury apartment in Mission Valley in San Diego. Thought of nothing about dropping $160+ on a pair of jeans.

Then it started to dawn on me, what am I doing? I am killing myself at work all to come home to great stuff. So I started planning on leaving that job, sell most of my stuff, leave California and head back to Colorado to start over, when I did, I did it low key. I have a job that I enjoy for the most part. I get yelled at if I attempt to work over 40 hours a week, and no weekends to work either. Yeah I have a crappy apartment, but in my town where I live, very little crime (damn tweakers messing with the statistics) other than breaking into cars and occasional burglary. No drive bys or gang shootings. I have a decent running car. Life is better now because I actually have time to do what I want too.

/just my .02 cents
 
2013-10-30 11:28:26 AM  
Why all the sneering hate?

As long as you aren't being a burden on others, who cares if you are intentionally poor?  Now, people being intentionally poor and then taking government assistance... that's disingenuous.

Also, even if this *is* just some psychological salve for when you realize you are not going to ever be rich, or simply that you prefer a less-driven lifestyle... we all go through it.  No matter what socioeconomic level you are at, you rationalize not having more and being content with less.  The middle class worker disdains Mercedes and country club memberships as frivolous status symbols and penile surrogates, and the lower class worker disdains middle class attitudes and acquisitive nature, being content that they are rich in other ways.

Bonus points: Read Brave New World, and meditate on "I'm glad I'm not a gamma... I'm glad I'm not an alpha..."

/people will quite readily brainwash themselves
 
2013-10-30 11:29:40 AM  

nekom: And like many people, as much as I'd like to, I can't. Nobody is willing to buy my home for what I owe to the bank, so until that changes (or I pay off more of the mortgage), I'm stuck.

It's called bankruptcy and it's an option worth considering in many cases.  You're never `stuck' unless you have student loans, then may god have mercy on your soul.


Student Loans can be ignored for years before they get serious and their law talking dudes try to sue you.
 
2013-10-30 11:30:04 AM  

seniorgato: A long time ago I realized that there was no excitement in purchases anymore.  That really... it's almost soul sucking.
Then I discovered mail order delivery and it's like a kid in a candy store!

NEW PACKAGE IN THE MAIL!?! What could it be?!  It's like Christmas every week :-D


It's called the hedonic treadmill http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill
 
2013-10-30 11:32:07 AM  
DNRTFA.  My husband and I chose to live on one paycheck when the kids showed up.  Years later, we don't have all the stuff our neighbors have, but we also don't have a lot of the headaches they have either.  It's fun to watch the panic that occurs when schools close unexpectedly.  We don't eat out a lot, so when we do, all of us feel treated.  I'm sure some of our neighbors think we are crazy, poor, or both, but we rarely feel deprived.
 
2013-10-30 11:32:39 AM  

Gough: I like FARK's approach to minimalism, saving resources by recycling.  Recycling things like this story from what, last week?


it's a painful existence. I wish you all the best as you deal with your trials and tribulations. Good luck.
 
2013-10-30 11:33:39 AM  

Cybernetic: seniorgato: A long time ago I realized that there was no excitement in purchases anymore.  That really... it's almost soul sucking.
Then I discovered mail order delivery and it's like a kid in a candy store!

NEW PACKAGE IN THE MAIL!?! What could it be?!  It's like Christmas every week :-D

Amazon Prime just might be your heroin.


It's turning into mine.  Next Christmas is tomorrow!
 
2013-10-30 11:34:08 AM  

MayoSlather: I'm not a minimalist, but I'm certainly not a materialist either, and I don't understand people that label themselves as "ambitious." Ambitious for what? To continue to work your shiat job in a needless industry, and get promoted so you can buy more shiat you don't need and will never make you happy?



Hard Work?
 
2013-10-30 11:34:15 AM  
That's what a cat would do. If you push a sitting cat onto its side, it will stretch out and be all like, hey, thanks, that's what I was going to do anyway.
 
2013-10-30 11:35:27 AM  
So, monks have been hipsters for 2500 years?
 
2013-10-30 11:37:18 AM  

beezeltown: So, monks have been hipsters for 2500 years?


Well, monk's were making beer before it was cool.
 
2013-10-30 11:39:30 AM  
I see the definition of hipster remains "somebody who does things I personally don't like."
 
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