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(The Hill)   Senator Paul bashes "electric car-driving Hollywood liberals" at coal-sponsored rally in Washington, apparently oblivious to the fact that electric cars are the only ones likely to be powered by coal   (thehill.com) divider line 61
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2013-10-30 12:12:17 PM
Disposable Rob:

And to add, while the Fark headline makes it seem like Paul isn't making the connection between electric cars and coal, I'm pretty sure he's aware of the connection of how coal supports "Hollywood liberals".

This. His comments are specifically about how coal-fired electricity fuels these cars, and that "Hollywood Liberals" are deluding themselves if they think that electric cars are an opt-out of the fossil fuel industry.
 
2013-10-30 12:40:14 PM
Smart like tractor.
Strong like noodle.
 
2013-10-30 01:32:37 PM

InmanRoshi: Brick-House: electric cars being driven by Hollywood liberals is not being powered by coal. Hollywood liberals are still pretentious idiots that like to think their opinion means more than anyone elses.

Yeah, I can't imagine another profession who thinks their opinions on politics are so uniquely insightful that everyone needs to know all about it.



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Basically all the front cover of Sam The Non-Plumber's book tells me is that he is a "great American" repeated twice.

It's like the front cover was designed by someone from The Onion.
 
2013-10-30 02:07:59 PM

skykid: InmanRoshi: Brick-House: electric cars being driven by Hollywood liberals is not being powered by coal. Hollywood liberals are still pretentious idiots that like to think their opinion means more than anyone elses.

Yeah, I can't imagine another profession who thinks their opinions on politics are so uniquely insightful that everyone needs to know all about it.


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Basically all the front cover of Sam The Non-Plumber's book tells me is that he is a "great American" repeated twice.

It's like the front cover was designed by someone from The Onion.


If that man's head got any balder you could use it to focus light into a death ray.
 
2013-10-30 02:12:52 PM

Polyhazard: Disposable Rob:

And to add, while the Fark headline makes it seem like Paul isn't making the connection between electric cars and coal, I'm pretty sure he's aware of the connection of how coal supports "Hollywood liberals".

This. His comments are specifically about how coal-fired electricity fuels these cars, and that "Hollywood Liberals" are deluding themselves if they think that electric cars are an opt-out of the fossil fuel industry.


They aren't that deluded. If they are in Hollywood, coal is a tiny fraction of their electricity generation source. Around 4%, in fact. http://energyalmanac.ca.gov/electricity/electricity_generation.html

It is, however, more than the zero that gas-fueled cars use.
 
2013-10-30 02:40:32 PM
FTFA: Signs that read, "Obama hates coal miners," and "Supporting coal supports freedom" were scattered throughout the crowd.

Yeah, Obama lays there at night thinking "Those goddamn coal miners, I hate them.  What can I do to shiat in their Wheaties?  God I hate them".  But we still have freedom.  Forget the Patriot act and using info from warrantless wiretaps in court and random stop-and-search on the street - we have coal, goddamit so we have freedom.

Stupid all over the place.
 
2013-10-30 02:50:48 PM

Doc Daneeka: Not here in New York.  We only get something like 5% of the electricity in our grid from coal.

The vast majority comes from nuclear, hydroelectric, and natural gas.


As it should.
 
2013-10-30 05:48:14 PM
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2013-10-30 09:21:36 PM
Nationwide, coal is used to produce about 37% of the electricity.  That is the single largest source of electrical power, with natural gas coming in second at 30%.

citation: http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=427&t=3

Note, natural gas popularity has increased significantly because it has become damn cheap and it's easy to convert a coal plant ot natural gas (or so I've heard).   Natural gas has become cheap because of (wait for it) ... fracking.  That means your electric car has a 2 our of 3 chance of using an energy source you despise.
 
2013-10-30 09:59:14 PM

OgreMagi: Nationwide, coal is used to produce about 37% of the electricity.  That is the single largest source of electrical power, with natural gas coming in second at 30%.

citation: http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=427&t=3

Note, natural gas popularity has increased significantly because it has become damn cheap and it's easy to convert a coal plant ot natural gas (or so I've heard).   Natural gas has become cheap because of (wait for it) ... fracking.  That means your electric car has a 2 our of 3 chance of using an energy source you despise.


Yep, and according to the stats from the first 7 months of 2013 (from your link), here's how it's breaking down nationwide - information in brackets are comparing their specific category's total MWh in the first 7 months of 2012:

Coal - 36% (up 7% this year in MWh)
Oil - 0.7% (same)
Nat Gas - 31% (MWh output down 14%)
Nuke - 19% (same)
Hydro - 7% (same)
Biomass - 1.4% (same)
Geo therm - 0.4% (same)
Solar/PV - 0.2% (MWh up 90%)
Wind - 4.3% (MWh up 20%)

In percentage, coal is slipping - but at least so far in 2013, total output in coal is increasing quite a bit - mostly making up for the loss in nat gas production. Solar and wind production, while still small in total output, is still seeing *very* strong growth.

While of course it will incur the wrath of the xkcd's interpolation cartoon, the math of solar's year-over-year growth for the past 4 years, roughly doubling every year, it would take 8 more years to become the nation's top source of electric power. While I know that manufacturing and installation couldn't keep up at that rate of growth, it is an interesting note.
 
2013-10-31 02:58:42 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: Intrepid00: Nope

Maybe this will help.

37% of electricity in the United States is produced by coal

and/so electric cars are currently the only cars that use energy produced by coal

until I convert mine to Bio-Kingsford. (Yes, I am aware charcoal and coal aren't the same thing.)


But are you aware that charcoal and coal aren't the same thing?
/in the spirit of Paul, I thought I would plagiarize
 
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