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(Wall Street Journal)   Adobe confirms that 38 million users accounts have been accessed by hackers. Biggest photoshop fail ever   (blogs.wsj.com) divider line 43
    More: Followup, Adobe, Brian Krebs, photoshop  
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1059 clicks; posted to Business » on 30 Oct 2013 at 1:24 AM (36 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-10-29 10:00:25 PM
cdn.lolzbook.com
 
2013-10-29 11:37:13 PM
There's no accounting for this.
 
2013-10-30 12:02:35 AM
Next Fark Photoshop contest:

Photoshop this hacked Photoshop account information
 
2013-10-30 01:12:43 AM
This is very anecdotal but based on my experience with Adobe Reader/Pro, Apple's refusal to put flash on its devices (due to bad design principles) and my experience working with a guy who used to work at Adobe...those guys really seem to have their heads up their asses.
 
2013-10-30 01:31:22 AM
Love how it's adobes bad and not the asshole hackers who do their best to ruin our lives.
 
2013-10-30 01:42:37 AM
Go ahead

/steal my credit information and ruin yourself
//you can only improve my credit rating, fools
 
2013-10-30 02:25:26 AM
Call the NSA.  They know who did it.
 
2013-10-30 02:42:14 AM
I would like to personally thank Adobe for going to SAAS.  I signed up for their discounted thing and trashed my license for master suite.  The good part?  I realized I don't need their shiatty, buggy, overblown, way too complicated for what it does software anymore.  Yeah, I paid more this year than I would have but I never have to buy anything from them ever again.
 
2013-10-30 03:57:34 AM
Let's make our products subscription based! What could go wrong?
 
2013-10-30 04:12:23 AM
You spend over $800 on Photoshop and you DESERVED to get hosed.
 
2013-10-30 04:32:58 AM
This is what terrifies me about "the cloud".
 
2013-10-30 05:25:23 AM
Thirty-eight million?  So, pretty much everyone who ever bought Adobe then?
 
2013-10-30 05:47:34 AM
Yep, use the farking cloud you proles.
 
2013-10-30 06:40:34 AM

tchau: Love how it's adobes bad and not the asshole hackers who do their best to ruin our lives.


Could be old school hacking where it's just about getting the info. Especially in light of the fact they went for source code, which really isn't worth anything. Now if they got all the source code and released it...that would be entertaining. Though really should aim higher, like Windows source code.

Phil Moskowitz: Yep, use the farking cloud you proles.


The cloud isn't the problem, bad security is the problem. Stuff on the cloud is just as secure as it is anywhere else if you do things right. Or you can do them how Adobe did it. Also given some of the source code was accessed, me thinks the account info wasn't on the cloud anyways.
 
2013-10-30 06:40:49 AM
Membership has its privileges.

/Get an account, be a pat of the club. Belong.
 
2013-10-30 06:41:16 AM

red5ish: Let's make our products subscription based! What could go wrong?


more people find out what an overly complicated POS it is?
 
2013-10-30 06:43:15 AM
Adobe is a company who's avarice has long needed to catch up with them.
 
2013-10-30 06:47:52 AM
THE CLOUD. Please, stop using those words. They have no real meaning.
 
2013-10-30 07:07:47 AM

tungub: THE CLOUD. Please, stop using those words. They have no real meaning.


God, I hate that phrase.
 
2013-10-30 07:45:47 AM

tchau: Love how it's adobes bad and not the asshole hackers who do their best to ruin our lives.


Oh look, an Adobe executive.
 
2013-10-30 07:57:22 AM
You are a software company you farkmooks; stop putting spyware in your goddamn products and there wouldn't be any PII to steal.
 
2013-10-30 08:24:52 AM
People still pay for Photoshop software?
 
2013-10-30 08:35:19 AM

aevorea: People still pay for Photoshop software?


Nope, now they just rent it.
 
2013-10-30 09:12:29 AM

genepool lifeboat: Nope, now they just rent it.


Last I checked, rentals aren't free. . .
 
2013-10-30 10:16:09 AM

TV's Vinnie: You spend over $800 on Photoshop and you DESERVED to get hosed.


I am assuming this is the creative cloud customers not the instal base since they do not have our finical info. Creative Cloud is a serious FU and money grab to Adobe's base customers and if I can manage it I never plan on upgrading again.

/Bought CS6 so I could hold out as long as humanly possible to upgrade to CC
//Stand alone Photoshop is around $600, so $800+ would be a hosing I agree
 
2013-10-30 10:42:28 AM
Do adobe customers have any money left to steal after paying for the software every year?
 
2013-10-30 11:06:26 AM
Got my letter in the mail two weeks ago.  I've been notified of potential security breaches before, and they've always been along the lines of "keep an eye on your accounts, and maybe change your password.  With this one, it was "change your passwords, watch every account you have with similar passwords, and sign up for this free year of credit monitoring because this could be really bad..."

That said, as a photographer and video producer who uses Production Premium and Lightroom all day long, I love the Cloud based service.  I've never gone in for all of the publishing tools and web tools because it wasn't my bag.  But now that I have access to all of them, I'm finding them very useful and fun to try out.  I also got the intro price of $29.99/mo for the first year, so it's totally worth it to me.  Even at $60/mo it's going to be worth it.  That's two days worth of billing for me to have the latest software instantly.  I suppose if you're not making money on it, it's pricey, but as a guy who upgraded every year anyway, I'm pretty happy with the model.

Now if only we could get Apple to un-hose Final Cut X and make it useable again...
 
2013-10-30 11:57:48 AM
I've sold my Adobe stock and invested in MS Paint instead.
 
2013-10-30 12:05:40 PM
Once again demonstrating the benefits of software piracy; no accounts to breach.
 
2013-10-30 12:49:22 PM
Did they nag the people every 30 minutes to upgrade to the latest hack?
 
2013-10-30 01:10:18 PM
open source photoshop and its free!

http://www.gimp.org/
 
2013-10-30 01:37:23 PM
WhyteRaven74 : The cloud isn't the problem, bad security is the problem. Stuff on the cloud is just as secure as it is anywhere else if you do things right

If it's on a network, it's not secure ... the only question is, how insecure is it

// you want security, build a box that never touches the network ... then install an older version of photoshop. Voilla, secure photoshop :P
 
2013-10-30 04:56:24 PM
Ironically, got a credit fraud notification today.  Possibly because of the Adobe stuff (it usually takes ~30 days after a breach to get hit, at least in my experience), possibly from some stuff over the last couple of days.  We'll see.  Anyway, card's been cancelled and now I get to play the whack-a-mole game with autopayments.
 
2013-10-30 05:08:25 PM

sheep snorter: open source photoshop and its free!

http://www.gimp.org/


more of an open source Illustrator, actually. And yes, there is a HUGE difference.
 
2013-10-30 05:20:04 PM
my bank called all three of the numbers they have for me and sent an email. "It has come to our attention that your Chase debit card ending in XXXX may have been compromised by an unknown third party unrelated to Chase. For your security, we will send you a new debit card with a different number."

talking to the girl in customer service was less than helpful about where the damage may (or may not) have come from. in any case nothing got taken, netflix no longer has my debit card (yeah i know) nor does anyone else online.

when i pay bills online i don't have the site remember the info nor do i have FF remember it. so far in many years online i've been ok.
 
2013-10-30 07:47:18 PM
Cheeseface: more of an open source Illustrator, actually. And yes, there is a HUGE difference.

GIMP focuses on raster images, which puts it on the photoshop side of the fence.

Inkscape or Xara are closer to illustrator.
 
2013-10-30 07:50:37 PM
Curious: when i pay bills online i don't have the site remember the info nor do i have FF remember it. so far in many years online i've been ok.

When I pay bills online, I have my bank's billpay system send a paper check to the other company.
 
2013-10-30 10:03:02 PM

sheep snorter: open source photoshop and its free!

http://www.gimp.org/


Photoshop may take 3 terabytes of RAM to open a 1 pixel image, but at least it actually works.
 
2013-10-31 12:16:39 AM

MrEricSir: sheep snorter: open source photoshop and its free!

http://www.gimp.org/

Photoshop may take 3 terabytes of RAM to open a 1 pixel image, but at least it actually works.


So does GIMP. It just works differently. There's stuff I can't do easily with Photoshop that I can with GIMP, and there's also definitely stuff GIMP won't do for me. Sometimes, I process an image with both. Currently running CS4. It's good enough for what I want to do, will run on my current OS, and fark paying Adobe another cent.
 
2013-10-31 12:58:31 AM

forgotmydamnusername: MrEricSir: sheep snorter: open source photoshop and its free!

http://www.gimp.org/

Photoshop may take 3 terabytes of RAM to open a 1 pixel image, but at least it actually works.

So does GIMP. It just works differently. There's stuff I can't do easily with Photoshop that I can with GIMP, and there's also definitely stuff GIMP won't do for me. Sometimes, I process an image with both. Currently running CS4. It's good enough for what I want to do, will run on my current OS, and fark paying Adobe another cent.


Sure, there's a few things that are easier in Gimp than Photoshop, I can't argue with that. But Gimp's past few versions have been very unstable (particularly on Mac and Windows) and the new features are half-assed at best. And yes, Gimp finally has single window mode, but it's a bullshiat implementation.

Hate to say it, but GTK3 scared away all the good Gnome application developers.
 
2013-10-31 01:29:17 AM
forgotmydamnusername : So does GIMP. It just works differently. There's stuff I can't do easily with Photoshop that I can with GIMP, and there's also definitely stuff GIMP won't do for me.

I'm with you.

IIRC, there were something like 16 core developers and 60 something or so contributors to gimp (who basically do this in their free time).

VS whatever sized software team is working on photoshop.

So granted, the GIMP team isn't going to put in anything like content aware fill anytime soon (who knows how many hundreds of thousands of dollars in development time Adobe spent to develop that).

// But given the size of the GIMP development team and the nature of open source development, I'm surprised that they've stuffed as much functionality into it as they have. I mean shiat, it's free and it has a decent amount of functionality.
 
2013-10-31 01:54:49 AM
I still haven't forgiven Adobe for buying out Ares Software including FontChameleon and related products (FontMonger, FontMinder, FonFiddler, FontHopper, etc.), just to shelve them because their own font technologies couldn't compete against them. They even bought out existing stocks from stores and did everything they could to wipe out the memory that this technology ever existed.

FontChameleon was friggin' awesomesauce. This, mind you, was available in the early 1990s, for both Mac OS and Windows 3.x/9#. Adobe did incorporate Chameleon Fonts technology into PostScript 3 printers as "PostScript Type 14" fonts, but did so only for compression purposes (a Chameleon Font with the full ANSI character set averaged about 2kB vs. ~40kB for equivalent PostScript Type 1 or TrueType fonts ― this was important indeed in the days of 32MB maximum hard drive partitions, computers with only 1GB or so of RAM, and software delivered on floppy diskettes), but took no advantage of the more awesome capabilities.
 
2013-10-31 02:33:31 AM

MrEricSir: forgotmydamnusername: MrEricSir: sheep snorter: open source photoshop and its free!

http://www.gimp.org/

Photoshop may take 3 terabytes of RAM to open a 1 pixel image, but at least it actually works.

So does GIMP. It just works differently. There's stuff I can't do easily with Photoshop that I can with GIMP, and there's also definitely stuff GIMP won't do for me. Sometimes, I process an image with both. Currently running CS4. It's good enough for what I want to do, will run on my current OS, and fark paying Adobe another cent.

Sure, there's a few things that are easier in Gimp than Photoshop, I can't argue with that. But Gimp's past few versions have been very unstable (particularly on Mac and Windows) and the new features are half-assed at best. And yes, Gimp finally has single window mode, but it's a bullshiat implementation.

Hate to say it, but GTK3 scared away all the good Gnome application developers.


My experience running GIMP on OSX is that it crashes, but quite rarely. I wouldn't describe that as "very unstable". I can live with that. I remember a few years ago, when the BSOD appearing on a Windows machine's monitor was a daily occurrence when you did damn near anything at all, and the Mac puking up that little bomb icon was very nearly as frequent. Compared to that, GIMP is slicker than snot. Of course, I'm using a slightly older GIMP version that runs under X11, rather than natively in OSX. That could be the difference, I dunno. I just never thought the supposed improvements in the newer versions seemed important enough to bother downloading them.
 
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