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(Fox News)   New Mexico school thinks it's perfectly acceptable to put kids in cages   (foxnews.com) divider line 38
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2013-10-29 11:46:39 PM
Meh. Expected this:

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Leaving dissatisfied.
 
2013-10-29 11:47:53 PM
Catron County is seriously the middle of nowhere, it's awesome. They are very rural and they get some weather, so I bet the kids like the bus stop huts for more than ducking just wolves.
 
2013-10-29 11:54:18 PM
Isn't that what we've been doing with public schools for the past 60+ years?

If we really cared about education, the children's school day wouldn't start until after lunchtime.  You can't engage a child until they are awake and aware.

But what we really care about is day care for mommy and daddy to allow them to devote their energies to scraping by on a measly $100k a year.  Or in most cases a hell of a lot less.
 
2013-10-30 12:01:44 AM
That'll teach them
 
2013-10-30 12:03:59 AM

DanZero: That'll teach them


Most assuredly.
 
2013-10-30 12:54:53 AM
Go on...

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2013-10-30 01:04:14 AM
If it's not it should be
 
2013-10-30 01:38:09 AM
The cages are unnecessary and are part of a larger "anti-government" fear held by some in the Southwest, according to Eva Sargent, director of Southwest programs for Defenders of Wildlife.
"There's been absolutely zero, nada, zilch attacks on humans by wolves in the Southwest, so I think these cages are a reaction to a non-problem," Sargent said. "For some people, it's a political ploy to bring attention to other things. A lot of the fear stirred up by these kid cages, at the base of it, is an anti-government fear and the wolves are standing in for that."


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"This situation exemplifies a problem with the Endangered Species Act - the interests of wild animals are sometimes placed above the interests of real people," Spady told FoxNews.com. "Kid cages give context to the extreme nature of environmental policies that seek to change human behaviors in order to return ecosystems to something from a bygone era."


there you have it folks. Big government "extreme environmental policies" means ranchers can't kill endangered species therefor we need to protect kids from a nonexistent threat as a way to scare people into agreeing with us.
 
2013-10-30 01:57:24 AM

log_jammin: The cages are unnecessary and are part of a larger "anti-government" fear held by some in the Southwest, according to Eva Sargent, director of Southwest programs for Defenders of Wildlife.
"There's been absolutely zero, nada, zilch attacks on humans by wolves in the Southwest, so I think these cages are a reaction to a non-problem," Sargent said. "For some people, it's a political ploy to bring attention to other things. A lot of the fear stirred up by these kid cages, at the base of it, is an anti-government fear and the wolves are standing in for that."


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"This situation exemplifies a problem with the Endangered Species Act - the interests of wild animals are sometimes placed above the interests of real people," Spady told FoxNews.com. "Kid cages give context to the extreme nature of environmental policies that seek to change human behaviors in order to return ecosystems to something from a bygone era."

there you have it folks. Big government "extreme environmental policies" means ranchers can't kill endangered species therefor we need to protect kids from a nonexistent threat as a way to scare people into agreeing with us.


I drove through there a few weekends ago and saw a couple anti-wolf billboards, I try to keep an open mind about it and see both sides. But the bus stop safety cages have been their for a decade so I don't see any use in complaining about them now, the level of danger was much less understood at the time.
 
2013-10-30 02:14:42 AM

violentsalvation: the level of danger was much less understood at the time.


It's still not understood by many, and that fact is being exploited by some apparently.
 
2013-10-30 02:34:12 AM
What, there's something wrong with putting kids in cages?  Why didn't anyone tell m.... wait, I'll be right back.
 
2013-10-30 03:50:22 AM
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I like to think he was speaking english here.
 
2013-10-30 03:51:01 AM

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I like to think he was speaking english here.


farking shiat. Wrong thread.
 
2013-10-30 03:59:38 AM
Well if you know of a better way to keep the meat tender I'd like to hear it.
 
2013-10-30 04:03:00 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: Well if you know of a better way to keep the meat tender I'd like to hear it.


Two tethers on a space station would do the trick. Also, something something 3D printing.

/Ducks, runs out of thread
 
2013-10-30 04:10:52 AM
It's better to have the cages, and not need them; then need the cages, and not have them.

And, wolves aren't the only predator out there. Bears, coyotes, mountain lions, Al Gore and Bobcats would be happy to feed on kids. Plus, it doubles as a rain shelter/make-out spot.

/ this isn't about big government; this is more about peace of mind.
 
2013-10-30 04:17:04 AM
This seems like an issue that would have been more easily solved with leg irons....
 
2013-10-30 04:23:32 AM

TopoGigo: Quantum Apostrophe: Well if you know of a better way to keep the meat tender I'd like to hear it.

Two tethers on a space station would do the trick. Also, something something 3D printing.

/Ducks, runs out of thread


For the Speeeecieeeeeees!
 
2013-10-30 04:29:25 AM
I thought we had to do anything we could for the children.  You know, if it saves even one child's life it's worth it.

Besides, what the f*ck do wolves bring to the table?  It's not like we have an abundance of little girls in red riding hoods running around the US.
 
2013-10-30 05:12:17 AM

log_jammin: violentsalvation: the level of danger was much less understood at the time.

It's still not understood by many, and that fact is being exploited by some apparently.


For that matter, consider the contextual differences between calling them 'cages' as opposed to 'animal resistant shelters'.  The kids aren't locked in them, there doesn't appear to be any measures TO be able to lock them shut, but can easily provide at least some shelter from more than just wolves or other animals - rain, wind, sun, etc...
 
2013-10-30 05:13:45 AM
Children should always be caged when not leashed & muzzled. And remember, intimate massage is "bad touch," but whipping them with a belt is perfectly okay. Like Jesus said, little children should suffer.

Boy am I hung over. Will somebody please death-panel me?
 
2013-10-30 05:15:40 AM
But how do they keep bums from pooping in those shelters?

Who remembers phone booths?
 
2013-10-30 05:31:13 AM
A dingo ate my baby!
 
2013-10-30 05:52:07 AM

The One True TheDavid: But how do they keep bums from pooping in those shelters?

Who remembers phone booths?


It's so remote that they probably have more illegal aliens than 'bums', and even then not very often.
 
2013-10-30 05:56:31 AM
American kids are spoiled with their fancy bus shelters and buses.

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2013-10-30 06:04:31 AM
"Mexican gray wolves, a subspecies of the gray wolf, are the most endangered type of wolf in the world"

According to Wikipedia, "an estimated 340 Mexican wolves survive in 49 facilities in the United States and Mexico" and "In 2007, the US Fish and Wildlife Service estimated that there were 300 red wolves remaining in the world, with 207 of those in captivity"
 
2013-10-30 06:05:17 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Isn't that what we've been doing with public schools for the past 60+ years?

If we really cared about education, the children's school day wouldn't start until after lunchtime.  You can't engage a child until they are awake and aware.

But what we really care about is day care for mommy and daddy to allow them to devote their energies to scraping by on a measly $100k a year.  Or in most cases a hell of a lot less.


Came here to say this. What more need be said?
 
2013-10-30 06:06:32 AM

iheartscotch: It's better to have the cages, and not need them; then need the cages, and not have them.

And, wolves aren't the only predator out there. Bears, coyotes, mountain lions, Al Gore and Bobcats would be happy to feed on kids. Plus, it doubles as a rain shelter/make-out spot.

/ this isn't about big government; this is more about peace of mind.


Meh, if Fox News was really outraged they would have found a way to sneak some (D)a after the names in the article.
 
2013-10-30 06:13:01 AM

iheartscotch: It's better to have the cages, and not need them; then need the cages, and not have them.

And, wolves aren't the only predator out there. Bears, coyotes, mountain lions, Al Gore and Bobcats would be happy to feed on kids. Plus, it doubles as a rain shelter/make-out spot.

/ this isn't about big government; this is more about peace of mind.


You forgot Manbearpig...The worst of them all...
 
2013-10-30 06:15:54 AM

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: "Mexican gray wolves, a subspecies of the gray wolf, are the most endangered type of wolf in the world"

According to Wikipedia, "an estimated 340 Mexican wolves survive in 49 facilities in the United States and Mexico" and "In 2007, the US Fish and Wildlife Service estimated that there were 300 red wolves remaining in the world, with 207 of those in captivity"


so that's what furry romance novels look like
 
2013-10-30 06:39:28 AM
The shelters have been in place for about a decade.

meh. non-story now
 
2013-10-30 06:51:09 AM

Molavian: I thought we had to do anything we could for the children.  You know, if it saves even one child's life it's worth it.


Well, all we need now are some highly publicized wolf-on-child massacres, then we can get some common sense cage legislation. Let's cross our fingers!
 
2013-10-30 08:05:00 AM

maram500: Marcus Aurelius: Isn't that what we've been doing with public schools for the past 60+ years?

If we really cared about education, the children's school day wouldn't start until after lunchtime.  You can't engage a child until they are awake and aware.

But what we really care about is day care for mommy and daddy to allow them to devote their energies to scraping by on a measly $100k a year.  Or in most cases a hell of a lot less.

Came here to say this. What more need be said?


Something along the lines of "put down the bong"...
 
2013-10-30 09:20:40 AM
"...An estimated 75 Mexican wolves now remain in Arizona and New Mexico."

"Ranchers are opposed to the extension, and claim that the wolves, which prey on livestock but have not been known to attack humans in the area, should be hunted."

It seems that in this part of rural New Mexico they still think it's the 1850s, except for the pickup trucks and the flat screen TVs
 
2013-10-30 09:46:51 AM
We have those here. We call them wind shelters, not "cages". But here they still have a way to close and block the wind. Useful when you have -30 days.
 
2013-10-30 10:34:28 AM
They obviously didn't read the instruction manual.

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2013-10-30 10:37:44 AM

Marcus Aurelius: If we really cared about education, the children's school day wouldn't start until after lunchtime.  You can't engage a child until they are awake and aware.


WTF?  You sound like your biorhythms are off
 
2013-10-30 07:33:18 PM
Catron County. It's the Florida of New Mexico. 'Nuff said.

(And then there's Valencia County -- which I guess would be the South Carolina of New Mexico. Those folks just aren't right, either.)
 
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