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2013-10-29 04:35:38 PM  
The man's shameless.
 
2013-10-29 04:46:07 PM  

gaslight: The man's shameless.


And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.
 
2013-10-29 04:47:07 PM  

Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.


Also a war criminal.
 
2013-10-29 04:48:02 PM  
What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that.

If your biggest concern was eliminating potential sources of weapons for terrorists, why is it that you shot some old Texas lawyer instead of Rumsfeld or yourself?
 
2013-10-29 04:51:12 PM  
why is this piece of human filth not sitting in a cell in the hague right now?
 
2013-10-29 05:25:32 PM  

SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK

 
2013-10-29 05:28:36 PM  

Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.


Not anymore. All he needed was the heart of an innocent young boy to restore his vigor.

I suppose that means his lifetime of heart troubles are behind him at last, and we can look forward to many more years of this Dick.

hurray
 
2013-10-29 05:40:50 PM  

nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK

 
2013-10-29 05:48:34 PM  

Chariset: And heartless.


No, we know he has a heart. A clogged, fat-filled heart that almost did the world some good in taking him out of it.
 
2013-10-29 06:17:13 PM  

hardinparamedic: Chariset: And heartless.

No, we know he has a heart. A clogged, fat-filled heart that almost did the world some good in taking him out of it.


HAD a heart.
 
2013-10-29 06:18:19 PM  
What a c*nt.
 
2013-10-29 06:33:26 PM  
America needed a man who wasn't some limp-wristed pantywaist. Compassion is for pussies. God bless Dick Cheney.
 
2013-10-29 07:21:54 PM  
disgusting
 
2013-10-29 07:40:34 PM  
Darth Cheney needs to get tossed down a Death Star power shaft.
 
2013-10-29 08:34:16 PM  
Maybe we should invade Israel to make sure THEY don't have nuclear weapons.

Who's with me?
 
2013-10-29 09:00:43 PM  
Christ what a Republican
 
2013-10-29 09:01:36 PM  
If only he had been a Democrat, they'd have crucified him ...
 
2013-10-29 09:08:53 PM  

hardinparamedic: Chariset: And heartless.

No, we know he has a heart. A clogged, fat-filled heart that almost did the world some good in taking him out of it.


You're behind the times. Cheney is currently shopping his new book, which is about his medical problems and his recent experience of having a heart transplant. As someone pointed out upthread, he probably has the heart of a 16 year old boy now.

I guess this means no more zombie Dick Cheney jokes, now that he has a pulse again.
 
2013-10-29 09:14:32 PM  
Die already you piece of shiat.
 
2013-10-29 09:17:46 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Maybe we should invade Israel to make sure THEY don't have nuclear weapons.

Who's with me?


cdn.meme.li
 
2013-10-29 09:20:40 PM  

exick: What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that.

If your biggest concern was eliminating potential sources of weapons for terrorists, why is it that you shot some old Texas lawyer instead of Rumsfeld or yourself?


Saddam wasn't exactly cozy with al Qaeda. There was no way they were getting ahold of his non-existent WMDs. Cheney's either being disingenuous or he's been drinking way too much of his own Kool-Aid.
 
2013-10-29 09:21:08 PM  
boskolives.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-29 09:21:25 PM  
I hope we remember this next time we're told, invade or we all die, and besides--trust me, I'm an oil man--we will loot all of their oil and everybody gets free gas.

But we won't.

Still angrier at my shiat-for-brains fellow citizens than Cheney.
 
2013-10-29 09:21:27 PM  
Dick Cheney makes me wish there were a Hell.
 
2013-10-29 09:22:26 PM  
If I was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in a just war, it would fark with me. But this cock is making quips about Iraq like it wasn't a farking travesty.

What's he doing going on book tours anyway? He has to have more money than he can spend for the rest of his short ass life. Sure he has a new heart but the rest of him is still 100.
 
2013-10-29 09:23:15 PM  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunking

Ordeal by water was associated with the witch hunts of the 16th and 17th centuries: an accused who sank was considered innocent, while floating indicated witchcraft.

Well, at least we know they weren't a witch -- but maybe they have started practicing witchcraft since we left, maybe we should invade again?
 
2013-10-29 09:23:26 PM  
And thanks to you - they also have about 500,000 fewer citizens and 50% less infrastructure now.
 
2013-10-29 09:24:08 PM  
They better install one of those huge toilet paper dispensers on his headstone when he dies, People will be lining up to take a dump on his grave, because spitting or pissing on it just isn't good enough!
 
2013-10-29 09:26:47 PM  
I bet his browser history features a Google search for "urine-resistant concrete coffin". Never too early to start planning ahead.
 
2013-10-29 09:27:26 PM  
And now Harry Whittington knows the chamber on Dick's shotgun is empty.
 
2013-10-29 09:29:56 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: What a c*nt.


fark off. coonts are awesome.
 
2013-10-29 09:31:33 PM  

Mugato: What's he doing going on book tours anyway?


Attempting to remain politically relevant / control the narrative of his administration's legacy.
 
2013-10-29 09:31:39 PM  
go fark yourself, mr. cheney.
 
2013-10-29 09:31:55 PM  
There haven't been five people who have done more damage to their own country than this guy, discounting Confederate traitors.
 
2013-10-29 09:32:11 PM  
I'm sure Darrell Issa is on the case.

Right?
 
2013-10-29 09:34:35 PM  
God damn....  I hate to say crap like this, but in a perfect world he'd be on trial and hung for what he's done to the world.
 
2013-10-29 09:34:58 PM  
I'm resisting the urge to say something that will make the RCMP visit my house... but Cheney dying a painful, degrading death here and now really wouldn't be as bad as what will happen, which is that history* will judge him as a powerful psychopath drenched in blood on a scale that mere dabblers like Dirlewanger and Mengele could only dream of.

* no, not American history.  Just the rest of us.
 
2013-10-29 09:35:13 PM  
Aw. Now I'm angry again.

And that makes me sad.
 
2013-10-29 09:35:45 PM  
Hey, save a slice of that blame pie for the 70% of Americans who couldn't be bothered to spend the five seconds necessary to realize the administration's claims simply didn't add up. Of course, you'll have trouble finding them... none of them admit it now.
 
2013-10-29 09:35:47 PM  
The reading comprehension around here is somewhere between Creationist Peter and Feral Peter.
 
2013-10-29 09:36:28 PM  

nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK

 
2013-10-29 09:36:41 PM  

gilgigamesh: Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.

Not anymore. All he needed was the heart of an innocent young boy to restore his vigor.

I suppose that means his lifetime of heart troubles are behind him at last, and we can look forward to many more years of this Dick.

hurray


If there is any justice in the world The Fates sent that heart his way to enable him to have the strength for a long, painful and ultimately unsuccessful battle with a particularly aggressive form of ass cancer.
 
2013-10-29 09:38:51 PM  
Dick "Dick" Cheney
 
2013-10-29 09:40:35 PM  

Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.


Actually, the tin man got a transplant.
 
2013-10-29 09:41:14 PM  
This guy is coming back as a toilet brush.
 
2013-10-29 09:42:51 PM  

cchris_39: The reading comprehension around here is somewhere between Creationist Peter and Feral Peter.


Please enlighten us, o wise one: which part of this quote are we misinterpreting?

"What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that."
 
2013-10-29 09:48:06 PM  

fusillade762: cchris_39: The reading comprehension around here is somewhere between Creationist Peter and Feral Peter.

Please enlighten us, o wise one: which part of this quote are we misinterpreting?

"What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that."


Even if you take Cheney's statement is the most positive light possible - that Saddam could have created a bomb, and he could have become friendly with al Qaeda, and he could have decided to part with the WMD's he had spent decades building by giving them to someone over whom he had no control, and who could have very well used them against Saddam himself - even if you assume that all of that is true, you still have to recognize one simple, incontrovertible fact:

We create thousands upon thousands of more terrorists and extremists by invading Iraq than we ever killed there.  The US invading Iraq was the greatest recruiting commercial for terrorists in the world since the Russians invaded Afghanistan.
 
2013-10-29 09:49:41 PM  

fusillade762: Please enlighten us, o wise one: which part of this quote are we misinterpreting?

"What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that."


Let's invade Canada and cross them off as a potential source as well.
 
2013-10-29 09:50:31 PM  

TheOmni: Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.

Also a war criminal.


Even George W Bush says that Dick is a killer.
 
2013-10-29 09:51:18 PM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN_vgTsRdjM,Download with AllDebridThere are few things that can actually cause me to tremble with anger. But there is no Hell that's hot enough for  sociopathic MFs like Cheney.


Never Forget!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN_vgTsRdjM
 
2013-10-29 09:56:58 PM  
Doesn't he have some friend to shoot in the face? Then make the friend apologize to him.

Maybe he's run out of friends.
 
2013-10-29 09:57:43 PM  
Hero tag?  How about a "flaming piece of shiat" tag?
 
2013-10-29 09:57:53 PM  

fusillade762: cchris_39: The reading comprehension around here is somewhere between Creationist Peter and Feral Peter.

Please enlighten us, o wise one: which part of this quote are we misinterpreting?

"What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that."


I read it more as Michael Corleone saying he has eliminated you as a threat. Just seems to be a better contextual fit.
 
2013-10-29 09:57:56 PM  

fusillade762: cchris_39: The reading comprehension around here is somewhere between Creationist Peter and Feral Peter.

Please enlighten us, o wise one: which part of this quote are we misinterpreting?

"What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that."


Iraq was never a threat to the US,  Al Qaeda was never in Iraq until we invaded!
Cheney was divvying up Iraq with the oil companies in secret meetings but yeah, it was all about WMD!
 
2013-10-29 09:59:30 PM  
simpsonswiki.com

Money well spent.
 
2013-10-29 10:00:10 PM  

FlashHarry: why is this piece of human filth not sitting in a cell in the hague right now?


His employee, also know as the Prime minister of Canada(Stephen Harper) protected his ass at the taxpayers expensive, while ignoring International law and the warrants out for jr and Cheney.

/Harboring a known fugitive from justice is a crime... only for peasants.
 
2013-10-29 10:00:43 PM  
Dick Cheney;  Still actively evil.

Joe Biden;  Not actively evil.

Let's see if the TEA Toddlers can tell the difference.
 
2013-10-29 10:01:43 PM  

Darth Macho: I bet his browser history features a Google search for "urine-resistant concrete coffin". Never too early to start planning ahead.


Lol. That took me a second to figure out. Nice one
 
2013-10-29 10:02:52 PM  
I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to "liberate" Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called "democracy" in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq's oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level-moral, strategic, military and economic-Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.

--Tomas Young, Iraq War Disabled Veteran
 
2013-10-29 10:03:04 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
"Thanks, Dick"

remindmagazine.files.wordpress.com
"Thanks, Dick"

nimg.sulekha.com
"Mrhhrks, Drrk"
 
2013-10-29 10:03:08 PM  
Also can't forget that Bush jr made his daddy so happy once he caught and hung that former CIA operative Saddam Hussein. Daddy failed to catch him, while he was defending that oil nation from loss of profits.

/Mubarak may become Dictator again too, as Israel did not like the new guy who was properly elected by the people of Egypt
 
2013-10-29 10:04:39 PM  

roadkillontheweb: They better install one of those huge toilet paper dispensers on his headstone when he dies, People will be lining up to take a dump on his grave, because spitting or pissing on it just isn't good enough!


Which would be a terrible thing to do. Have you no compassion? No consideration for others? Why would you advocate doing such an awful thing, knowing how all that crap would get all over the shoes of the tapdancers?
 
2013-10-29 10:06:20 PM  

GodsTumor: Al Qaeda was never in Iraq until we invaded!


To be fair, there were a handful of Al Qaeda affiliated groups in Iraq before the invasion - hiding up in the mountains, because if they'd shown their face in public Saddam Hussein would've killed them.
 
2013-10-29 10:06:24 PM  

FlashHarry: why is this piece of human filth not sitting in a cell in the hague right now?


Along with every asshole who voted for him.
 
2013-10-29 10:06:34 PM  
someone should shoot that dude in the face.

by accident, of course.
 
2013-10-29 10:06:54 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: God damn....  I hate to say crap like this, but in a perfect world he'd be on trial and hung for what he's done to the world.


sheep snorter: Also can't forget that Bush jr made his daddy so happy once he caught and hung that former CIA operative Saddam Hussein.


hanged

/normally I don't grammar nazi, but twice in one thread...
//and fark Cheney. fark him in the neck.
 
2013-10-29 10:07:17 PM  

  New Iraq study estimates war-related deaths at 461,000



But according to wingnuts, trying to bring universal access to health care in the US is a thousand times more evil than this. ^
Chew on that for a minute.
 
2013-10-29 10:10:36 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: What a c*nt.


Don't you dare connect that man with such a lovely thing.
/Just sayin'
 
2013-10-29 10:15:08 PM  

Mithiwithi: GodsTumor: Al Qaeda was never in Iraq until we invaded!

To be fair, there were a handful of Al Qaeda affiliated groups in Iraq before the invasion - hiding up in the mountains, because if they'd shown their face in public Saddam Hussein would've killed them.


Agreed, and Saddam did have them under thumb.
 
2013-10-29 10:16:11 PM  
What was the US debt before invading a sovereign nation that didn't threaten the US? Five trillion or so?  Total cost $800 million per year, thousands of Americans killed, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed to prevent..what? A scud being launched against Isreal?  Post-traumatic stress disorder for the survivors. A local populace that wants us gone, which will create a theocratic shiate vacuum instead on f the secular Sunni regime Saddam had in place.

We got nothing out of the second Iraq war but killing people, including the Iraqi civilians we were ostensibly liberating.  Leaving Saddam was the best thing we could've done to Iraq.  The fight against al Qaeda was in Afghanistan. Unwinnable Afghanistan.
 
2013-10-29 10:16:27 PM  
We so badly need a [derp] tag.
 
2013-10-29 10:16:39 PM  
Yeah but 0bummer has a crappy website. BSAB.
 
2013-10-29 10:17:13 PM  

cc_rider: New Iraq study estimates war-related deaths at 461,000

But according to wingnuts, trying to bring universal access to health care in the US is a thousand times more evil than this. ^
Chew on that for a minute.


They're just Scary Mooselimbs.  No evil in killing them.
 
2013-10-29 10:17:29 PM  
I think Jules summed it up best: "The tyranny of evil men"
 
2013-10-29 10:18:36 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: God damn....  I hate to say crap like this, but in a perfect world he'd be on trial and hung for what he's done to the world.


In a perfect world his mother would have had an abortion.
 
2013-10-29 10:18:47 PM  
I was a freshman in high school when the invasion of Iraq happened. To date, three people I know are dead because of it - 2 killed in action, 1 killed by suicide.

Cheney should be damned grateful he has lifetime secret service protection because someone (not me, I don't condone violence against public officials) will be constantly planning to take a shot at him.
 
2013-10-29 10:21:11 PM  
Dick Cheney's FARK "Dead" thread is going to be quite a f*cking thing.
 
2013-10-29 10:23:07 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [25.media.tumblr.com image 493x447]
"Thanks, Dick"

[remindmagazine.files.wordpress.com image 500x247]
"Thanks, Dick"

[nimg.sulekha.com image 415x600]
"Mrhhrks, Drrk"


blog.gettyimages.com
 
2013-10-29 10:27:29 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I was a freshman in high school when the invasion of Iraq happened. To date, three people I know are dead because of it - 2 killed in action, 1 killed by suicide.

Cheney should be damned grateful he has lifetime secret service protection because someone (not me, I don't condone violence against public officials) will be constantly planning to take a shot at him.


A couple years ago, I took a road trip to see the memorial my old unit put up, from my last tour in Iraq.

img.photobucket.com

I'm not as angry about the war as I was, but Jesus Christ, it's like he's trying to be a smug asshole about it.
 
2013-10-29 10:28:47 PM  

jmr61: Die already you piece of shiat.

 
2013-10-29 10:29:26 PM  
once again, I hope he gets dick cancer
 
2013-10-29 10:32:55 PM  
I was a Navy combat aircrewman who served during desert storm. Dick Cheney should be forced to stand at the entrance of Arlington national cemetery on Veterans Day to apologize to the families of the sailors/soldiers/marines/guardsmen who died for a lie.
 
2013-10-29 10:35:55 PM  
Cheney is what happens when you give a serial killer political, economic, and military power.
 
2013-10-29 10:36:20 PM  
Karac:

We create thousands upon thousands of more terrorists and extremists by invading Iraq than we ever killed there.  The US invading Iraq was the greatest recruiting commercial for terrorists in the world since the Russians invaded Afghanistan.

The Soviet Union didn't invade Afghanistan.

There government of Afghanistan asked for the help of the Soviet Union.


Yeah, that government was "teh ebil" in the context of the cold war. But at least communists have this thing with universal free education, healthcare and building lots of infrastructure. And they don't differentiate between boys or girls.

Whatever came after the Soviet Union leaving has just been pure shiat for Afghanistan.
 
2013-10-29 10:36:42 PM  
Sgt Otter:

A couple years ago, I took a road trip to see the memorial my old unit put up, from my last tour in Iraq.

[img.photobucket.com image 800x450]

I'm not as angry about the war as I was, but Jesus Christ, it's like he's trying to be a smug asshole about it.


I salute you for service, good sir. It sucks that it had to be based on W Misses Daddy
 
2013-10-29 10:39:24 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Maybe we should invade Israel to make sure THEY don't have nuclear weapons.

Who's with me?


We know they have them.

/And I'm confident they'd use them if they felt like it.
 
2013-10-29 10:42:48 PM  
I feel like Chef here....

Children, don't enlist. That is all.
 
2013-10-29 10:45:43 PM  

Barfmaker: nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK

 
2013-10-29 10:46:17 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Sgt Otter:

A couple years ago, I took a road trip to see the memorial my old unit put up, from my last tour in Iraq.

[img.photobucket.com image 800x450]

I'm not as angry about the war as I was, but Jesus Christ, it's like he's trying to be a smug asshole about it.

I salute you for service, good sir. It sucks that it had to be based on W Misses Daddy


Yes,very much this. Thank you, Sgt. Otter and everyone else who served.

I just wish 'Muricans could finally learn their lesson and stop electing people who love power more than they love humanity.
 
2013-10-29 10:47:05 PM  
He used to be pretty cool back in the day.
Word to your mother.


1.bp.blogspot.com
I'm Dick Cheney, yes I'm the real Cheney
All you other Dick Cheneys are just imitating
 
2013-10-29 10:47:41 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [25.media.tumblr.com image 493x447]
"Thanks, Dick"

[remindmagazine.files.wordpress.com image 500x247]
"Thanks, Dick"

[nimg.sulekha.com image 415x600]
"Mrhhrks, Drrk"


You magnificent bastard.

/I'll take a window seat, thanks.
 
2013-10-29 10:48:34 PM  

TheOmni: Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.

Also a war criminal.


But other than that, he's an okay guy.

Well, he can't shoot for shiat, but he's okay.
 
2013-10-29 10:55:52 PM  
It may just be me, but between this story and the Kasich story the Hero story is getting abused to the point where it needs to be in a therapist's office pointing on the doll where fark touched it.
 
2013-10-29 10:56:11 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Yeah if only we could have had someone in there checking to see if their was WMDs without a full on war. Oh wait we did. We made it so he had to leave early and the Bush admin attacked him and discredited him.
 
2013-10-29 10:58:41 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: There haven't been five people who have done more damage to their own country than this guy, discounting Confederate traitors.


That's like saying Germany has had some poor leaders, discounting the ones who murdered an entire race.

The enslavers/constitution shreders are still at the top of the list of American villains. They died without honour.
 
2013-10-29 10:58:41 PM  

Corvus: [upload.wikimedia.org image 597x599]

Yeah if only we could have had someone in there checking to see if their was WMDs without a full on war. Oh wait we did. We made it so he had to leave early and the Bush admin attacked him and discredited him.


Oh and if you don't think it's true:

Senior U.S. officials ordered the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to investigate Blix to gather "sufficient ammunition to undermine" him so that the U.S. could start the invasion of Iraq. The U.S. officials were upset that the CIA did not uncover such information.[9] [10]
 
2013-10-29 11:00:19 PM  
And this guy hasn't been black bagged, thrown into a van, driven to an airport and flown to the Hague because?
 
2013-10-29 11:02:18 PM  

spawn73: Yeah, that government was "teh ebil" in the context of the cold war. But at least communists have this thing with universal free education, healthcare and building lots of infrastructure. And they don't differentiate between boys or girls.


You might want to inform the Chinese about that. . .
 
2013-10-29 11:05:23 PM  

spawn73: Karac:

We create thousands upon thousands of more terrorists and extremists by invading Iraq than we ever killed there.  The US invading Iraq was the greatest recruiting commercial for terrorists in the world since the Russians invaded Afghanistan.

The Soviet Union didn't invade Afghanistan.

There government of Afghanistan asked for the help of the Soviet Union.


Yeah, that government was "teh ebil" in the context of the cold war. But at least communists have this thing with universal free education, healthcare and building lots of infrastructure. And they don't differentiate between boys or girls.

Whatever came after the Soviet Union leaving has just been pure shiat for Afghanistan.


By that math we didn't invade Vietnam.
 
2013-10-29 11:05:58 PM  
Clinton, Gore, Carter, and George HW Bush all travel the world giving high-priced speeches and doing philanthropy. In three years Obama will be doing the same thing, and probably Joe Biden too.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/12/dick-cheney-cancels-toronto- tr ip-says-canada-is-too-dangerous/

Cheney is afraid to go to Canada.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/158334/avoiding-handcuffs-george-bush- ca ncels-swiss-trip-after-human-rights-groups-seek-arrest-#

W is afraid to go to Switzerland.

I'm sure that's gotta stick in their craws every time they see Bill dedicating a new hospital wing in Paris or Jimmy building houses and curing diseases in Africa.

(i wish the cartoonish afterlife hell these men claim to believe in actually existed)
 
2013-10-29 11:06:49 PM  
FACT: Dick Cheney enjoys a smoothie each morning made from peaches, strawberries, blueberries, a banana, greek yogurt, orphan tears, and a live puppy.
 
2013-10-29 11:06:50 PM  
Cock Cheney & his buddies made huge financial profits from the Iraq war, so as far as he's concerned it was totally worth all the blood spilled and lives ruined.
 
2013-10-29 11:07:17 PM  
It makes sense if you don't think about it too much.
 
2013-10-29 11:07:56 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Maybe we should invade Israel to make sure THEY don't have nuclear weapons.

Who's with me?


sounds good
perhaps invade them twice just to make sure
 
2013-10-29 11:14:14 PM  

bindlestiff2600: Marcus Aurelius: Maybe we should invade Israel to make sure THEY don't have nuclear weapons.

Who's with me?

sounds good
perhaps invade them twice just to make sure


i78.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-29 11:14:52 PM  

TheOmni: Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.

Also a war criminal.


at least he's consistent. more than a lot of you can say.
 
2013-10-29 11:16:36 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: God damn....  I hate to say crap like this, but in a perfect world he'd be on trial and hung for what he's done to the world.


We have to go after the real threats to our interests, like Snowden, before we worry about small fish like Cheney.
 
2013-10-29 11:20:16 PM  

Karac: fusillade762: cchris_39: The reading comprehension around here is somewhere between Creationist Peter and Feral Peter.

Please enlighten us, o wise one: which part of this quote are we misinterpreting?

"What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that."

Even if you take Cheney's statement is the most positive light possible - that Saddam could have created a bomb, and he could have become friendly with al Qaeda, and he could have decided to part with the WMD's he had spent decades building by giving them to someone over whom he had no control, and who could have very well used them against Saddam himself - even if you assume that all of that is true, you still have to recognize one simple, incontrovertible fact:

We create thousands upon thousands of more terrorists and extremists by invading Iraq than we ever killed there.  The US invading Iraq was the greatest recruiting commercial for terrorists in the world since the Russians invaded Afghanistan.


This & I hope we learned from it- though I doubt it
 
2013-10-29 11:23:05 PM  

b2theory: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: There haven't been five people who have done more damage to their own country than this guy, discounting Confederate traitors.

That's like saying Germany has had some poor leaders, discounting the ones who murdered an entire race.

The enslavers/constitution shredders are still at the top of the list of American villains. They died without honour.


I can think of one man who would be very glad indeed to know that Cheney existed, namely, Benedict Arnold. "Now someone else's name can become synonymous with treason. Some has finally surpassed me."
 
2013-10-29 11:26:37 PM  

malaktaus: Satanic_Hamster: God damn....  I hate to say crap like this, but in a perfect world he'd be on trial and hung for what he's done to the world.

In a perfect world his mother would have had an abortion.


In a perfect world his *grandmother* would have had an abortion, just to make sure.
 
2013-10-29 11:28:39 PM  

cchris_39: fusillade762: cchris_39: The reading comprehension around here is somewhere between Creationist Peter and Feral Peter.

Please enlighten us, o wise one: which part of this quote are we misinterpreting?

"What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that."

I read it more as Michael Corleone saying he has eliminated you as a threat. Just seems to be a better contextual fit.


Wut? We lost thousands of our citizens, we killed hundreds of thousands of humans, we created thousands of radicals who now have reason to harm us, we spent trillions, we blew our first shot and trimming our deficit since WW2-

All that and you think of gangster movies? I am speechless
 
2013-10-29 11:28:39 PM  
So vote Republican?
 
2013-10-29 11:32:27 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: malaktaus: Satanic_Hamster: God damn....  I hate to say crap like this, but in a perfect world he'd be on trial and hung for what he's done to the world.

In a perfect world his mother would have had an abortion.

In a perfect world his *grandmother* would have had an abortion, just to make sure.


Just imagine how different things would be if only Clayton Williams hadn't told that less-than-ten-second joke in 1990. Texas would have to have done without their best governor in recent memory, but think how much better off the USA and world would be today.
 
2013-10-29 11:34:18 PM  
Mambo Bananapatch: ...in a perfect world...

i0.wp.com
 
2013-10-29 11:36:30 PM  

Flappyhead: And this guy hasn't been black bagged, thrown into a van, driven to an airport and flown to the Hague because?


Because neither Iraq nor the USA is a state party to the ICC. AFAIK either the alleged offender must be a citizen of a ratified state party, or the crime must have taken place in a ratified state party.

Anyway, he should be rolled up into a carpet and dumped into the East River.
 
2013-10-29 11:37:18 PM  
The fact that dick cheney is still alive is a tragedy.  He should have been aborted.
 
2013-10-29 11:39:13 PM  
This is a guinea worm (Dracunculus medinensis):

www.malevolentdesign.org

D. medinensis is a parasite which has been reported in humans, dogs, cats, horses, cattle, and other animals in Africa and Asia. It enters a host by way of host ingestion of stagnant water contaminated with copepods (water fleas) infested with guinea worm larvae. The adult worm grows within the host and eventually moves downwards, usually to the lower leg, through the subcutaneous tissues it leads to intense pain localized to its path of travel. The painful, burning sensation experienced by infected people has led to the disease being called "the fiery serpent". Other symptoms include fever, nausea, and vomiting. Once a Guinea worm begins emerging, the first step is to do a controlled submersion of the affected area in a bucket of water. This causes the worm to discharge many of its larva, making it less infectious. The water is then discarded on the ground far away from any water source. Submersion results in subjective relief of the burning sensation and makes subsequent extraction of the worm easier. To extract the worm, a person must wrap the live worm around a piece of gauze or a stick. The process can be long, taking anywhere from hours to months. It is of great importance not to break the worm when pulling it out. Broken worms have a tendency to putrefy or petrify. Putrefaction leads to the skin sloughing off around the worm. Petrification is a problem if the worm is in a joint or wrapped around a vein or other important area.

Dick Cheney is the only person who ever lived who actually deserves guinea worms. Sadly, they are repulsed by him and will have nothing to do with him.
 
2013-10-29 11:41:44 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Maybe we should invade Israel to make sure THEY don't have nuclear weapons.

Who's with me?


Best Korea has chemical AND nuclear weapons. Definite possession of WMDs. We KNOW they've got them. Hell, they even brag that they've got them. No U.N. inspectors necessary. Why don't we invade NK and get rid of those WMDs?
 
2013-10-29 11:43:56 PM  

cchris_39: I feel like Chef here....

Children, don't enlist. That is all.


You insult the bull's reading comprehension, you get the horns.
 
2013-10-29 11:45:51 PM  

nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK


That sums up the rant I was about to type.
 
2013-10-29 11:49:47 PM  

The Why Not Guy: Hey, save a slice of that blame pie for the 70% of Americans who couldn't be bothered to spend the five seconds necessary to realize the administration's claims simply didn't add up. Of course, you'll have trouble finding them... none of them admit it now.


And each and every Tea Party supporter will claim to have been one of the "Good Germans" when their smoke clears to reveal the burned out wreckage of this once-proud, former world power.
 
2013-10-29 11:50:50 PM  
"Chopping off Cheney's head worth it because now we know he's not an immortal hell-beast escaped from the hoary netherworld."

That makes as much sense as the headline.
 
2013-10-29 11:52:02 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-29 11:59:21 PM  
I remember photoshopping this when Cheney went to some big funeral.

growlersoftware.com

And the corollary was to photoshop him at a packers game

growlersoftware.com
 
2013-10-30 12:02:33 AM  

Fark Me To Tears: Marcus Aurelius: Maybe we should invade Israel to make sure THEY don't have nuclear weapons.

Who's with me?

Best Korea has chemical AND nuclear weapons. Definite possession of WMDs. We KNOW they've got them. Hell, they even brag that they've got them. No U.N. inspectors necessary. Why don't we invade NK and get rid of those WMDs?


Same reason we know that Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et al knew for a fact prior to the invasion that Iraq did not have WMDs: invading a nation that really does have WMDs would be insane.


BMulligan: Dick Cheney is the only person who ever lived who actually deserves guinea worms. Sadly, they are repulsed by him and will have nothing to do with him.


Guinea worms would be way too soft of a punishment for him. That other parasite that enters through the urethra I honestly can't imagine a sufficient punishment. The worst imagined versions of the Christian Hell and Lake of Fire, or any other religion's worst afterlife punishment, don't even come remotely close to sufficing.

Over a million horribly dead (and millions more likely to die) in a vain attempt to satisfy his greed. The greatest nation in history looted and gutted in a vain attempt to satisfy his greed.

SHUT UP COCK CHENEY, YOU DICK!!
 
2013-10-30 12:09:13 AM  

Fark Me To Tears: Marcus Aurelius: Maybe we should invade Israel to make sure THEY don't have nuclear weapons.

Who's with me?

Best Korea has chemical AND nuclear weapons. Definite possession of WMDs. We KNOW they've got them. Hell, they even brag that they've got them. No U.N. inspectors necessary. Why don't we invade NK and get rid of those WMDs?


What, are you crazy? They have WMDs! It would be nuts to attack them. I can't imagine why other countries would try to make WMDs of their own, after what happened to Iraq and what didn't happen to North Korea. Wait a second...
 
2013-10-30 12:18:24 AM  

SilentStrider: Darth Cheney needs to get tossed down a Death Star power shaft.


He is all that you see. He is all that want him to be.
 
2013-10-30 12:22:03 AM  
Remember when the US belligerently attacked another nation so a few already rich people could get more rich?

Those were good times.  I'm sure glad we did that.  I can think of more than a few ways my life is much better for it.
 
2013-10-30 12:28:12 AM  

BMulligan: This is a guinea worm (Dracunculus medinensis):

[www.malevolentdesign.org image 300x273]

D. medinensis is a parasite which has been reported in humans, dogs, cats, horses, cattle, and other animals in Africa and Asia. It enters a host by way of host ingestion of stagnant water contaminated with copepods (water fleas) infested with guinea worm larvae. The adult worm grows within the host and eventually moves downwards, usually to the lower leg, through the subcutaneous tissues it leads to intense pain localized to its path of travel. The painful, burning sensation experienced by infected people has led to the disease being called "the fiery serpent". Other symptoms include fever, nausea, and vomiting. Once a Guinea worm begins emerging, the first step is to do a controlled submersion of the affected area in a bucket of water. This causes the worm to discharge many of its larva, making it less infectious. The water is then discarded on the ground far away from any water source. Submersion results in subjective relief of the burning sensation and makes subsequent extraction of the worm easier. To extract the worm, a person must wrap the live worm around a piece of gauze or a stick. The process can be long, taking anywhere from hours to months. It is of great importance not to break the worm when pulling it out. Broken worms have a tendency to putrefy or petrify. Putrefaction leads to the skin sloughing off around the worm. Petrification is a problem if the worm is in a joint or wrapped around a vein or other important area.

Dick Cheney is the only person who ever lived who actually deserves guinea worms. Sadly, they are repulsed by him and will have nothing to do with him.


The true irony of your statement?

The Carter Foundation, created by that best-of-all-ex-Presidents, one James Earl Carter, has virtually eliminated the Guinea worm in Africa, with an annual infection rate of under 500 last year down from over 2 million when they began 20 years ago. The antithesis of Cheney has nearly eliminated the one thing Cheney deserves more than anything else...
 
2013-10-30 12:28:58 AM  

TheOmni: Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.

Also a war criminal.


We don't know for sure. Let's have congress send Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney to the Hague and have an international court determine whether they are war criminals or not. If they are not guilty everyone agrees to stop ragging on them, seriously all stop, on the other hand if found guilty they will be hanged until death. Sounds fair?
 
2013-10-30 12:29:23 AM  
Unfortunately, this shameless f*ck will die happy and content he was right. On the other hand he will likely be reincarnated as something lower than a cockroach.
 
2013-10-30 12:30:08 AM  

Mugato: If I was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in a just war, it would fark with me. But this cock is making quips about Iraq like it wasn't a farking travesty.

What's he doing going on book tours anyway? He has to have more money than he can spend for the rest of his short ass life. Sure he has a new heart but the rest of him is still 100.


Pimping his daughter as the "future of the Republican party".
 
2013-10-30 12:33:21 AM  
Man, I used to think I disliked Cheney but after reading this thread I feel like I am forcibly defaulted to be his fan club president.

Is it a war crime to be amazingly wrong about how you can change the world via force?

Now, torturing people to gain intell...that is getting there.
 
2013-10-30 12:43:46 AM  
Sometimes I wish I were a Christian and could take comfort in the belief that Dick Cheney will burn in hell for all eternity. What a despicable farking coont.
 
2013-10-30 12:44:42 AM  

nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK

 
2013-10-30 12:45:59 AM  

Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.


and a war criminal
 
2013-10-30 12:46:14 AM  
I wonder if shiatting on his grave will be a felony. Because if it's only a misdemeanor, I can see a lot of people chancing it.
 
2013-10-30 12:46:24 AM  
In the unlikely event there is a Hell, they're having a section remodeled for him and W., where they get carpet bombed to death, hourly, for the rest of eternity.
 
2013-10-30 12:50:55 AM  

Tax Boy: TheOmni: Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.

Also a war criminal.

Even George W Bush says that Dick is a killer.


What would he know.  He has Alzheimer's.

http://www.globemagazine.com/story/975
 
2013-10-30 12:55:49 AM  

TommyDeuce: TV's Vinnie: [25.media.tumblr.com image 493x447]
"Thanks, Dick"

[remindmagazine.files.wordpress.com image 500x247]
"Thanks, Dick"

[nimg.sulekha.com image 415x600]
"Mrhhrks, Drrk"

[blog.gettyimages.com image 660x424]


Dammit, is it getting dusty in here?
 
2013-10-30 01:24:21 AM  
On the plus side, I got a bunch of cool AAFES pogs out of it.

spacebison.com
 
2013-10-30 01:31:03 AM  
I guess when it isn't your friends and family dying, all the wars seem worthwhile.
 
2013-10-30 01:36:39 AM  

nocturnal001: Man, I used to think I disliked Cheney but after reading this thread I feel like I am forcibly defaulted to be his fan club president.

Is it a war crime to be amazingly wrong about how you can change the world via force?

Now, torturing people to gain intell...that is getting there.


Except he wasn't going in for ideological, spreading-democracy reasons--he and Bush were going in to prevent a 'smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud'.

In other words? They lied.
 
2013-10-30 01:58:17 AM  

gilgigamesh: Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.

Not anymore. All he needed was the heart of an innocent young boy to restore his vigor.

I suppose that means his lifetime of heart troubles are behind him at last, and we can look forward to many more years of this Dick.

hurray


His old heart was never destroyed. Don't you see? He replaced it because he knows that if we kill his old heart we kill him.

But be warned. There must always be a Dick Cheney. If you choose to stab his old heart, you will take up his mantle. There. Must. Always. Be...
 
2013-10-30 02:01:15 AM  

whither_apophis: Marcus Aurelius: Maybe we should invade Israel to make sure THEY don't have nuclear weapons.

Who's with me?

We know they have them.

/And I'm confident they'd use them if they felt like it.


Or if we invaded them.
 
2013-10-30 02:05:37 AM  

Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.


By the 80s, he and Rumsfeld had reputations as the coldest of the cold warriors.
 
2013-10-30 02:11:52 AM  

nocturnal001: Is it a war crime to be amazingly wrong about how you can change the world via force?


That's pretty much exactly what the Nazis did wrong, so yeah.
 
2013-10-30 03:02:24 AM  

AnonAmbientLight: gilgigamesh: Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.

Not anymore. All he needed was the heart of an innocent young boy to restore his vigor.

I suppose that means his lifetime of heart troubles are behind him at last, and we can look forward to many more years of this Dick.

hurray

His old heart was never destroyed. Don't you see? He replaced it because he knows that if we kill his old heart we kill him.

But be warned. There must always be a Dick Cheney. If you choose to stab his old heart, you will take up his mantle. There. Must. Always. Be...


If there isn't a Dick Cheney, the Teabaggers lose control and destroy the world?  Seems like he's not controlling them well anyway.
 
2013-10-30 03:17:19 AM  
This is the kind of person who, in centuries past, would have started "disappearing" citizenry who were as vocal in their opposition to the war as many on the left were on the run-up to the absolute farkup that was the new gulf war. And would have done it with a smile.
 
2013-10-30 03:18:59 AM  

TheOmni: Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.

Also a war criminal.


We need to trick him over the border.  The second he does, he gets a one-way ticket to The Hague.

/or so I've read
 
2013-10-30 03:33:12 AM  
Will there be a national holiday when Dick Cheney dies? A day of remembrance and celebration?
 
2013-10-30 03:41:46 AM  

red5ish: Will there be a national holiday when Dick Cheney dies? A day of remembrance and celebration?


International, I think.  I just hope he doesn't die a free man.
 
2013-10-30 04:59:59 AM  

PsiChick: nocturnal001: Man, I used to think I disliked Cheney but after reading this thread I feel like I am forcibly defaulted to be his fan club president.

Is it a war crime to be amazingly wrong about how you can change the world via force?

Now, torturing people to gain intell...that is getting there.

Except he wasn't going in for ideological, spreading-democracy reasons--he and Bush were going in to prevent a 'smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud'.

In other words? They lied.


I'm still not convinced that W was in on the lie.
 
2013-10-30 05:10:17 AM  

BMulligan: This is a guinea worm (Dracunculus medinensis):

[www.malevolentdesign.org image 300x273]

Dick Cheney is the only person who ever lived who actually deserves guinea worms. Sadly, they are repulsed by him and will have nothing to do with him.


QFT. I wish you hadn't posted the picture tho, it makes my feet itchy.

/evil worm is evil, kill it with fire (the sun works too)
 
2013-10-30 05:29:40 AM  
This guy should turn even the hardcore religious into atheists.
 
2013-10-30 05:32:11 AM  

sendtodave: PsiChick: nocturnal001: Man, I used to think I disliked Cheney but after reading this thread I feel like I am forcibly defaulted to be his fan club president.

Is it a war crime to be amazingly wrong about how you can change the world via force?

Now, torturing people to gain intell...that is getting there.

Except he wasn't going in for ideological, spreading-democracy reasons--he and Bush were going in to prevent a 'smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud'.

In other words? They lied.

I'm still not convinced that W was in on the lie.


you mean the fella looking under furniture in his office for wmd's

In that presentation http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?pid=1336">David Corn of The Nation reported:
Bush notes he spends "a lot of time on the phone listening to our European allies." Then we see a photo of him on the phone with a finger in his ear. But at one point, Bush showed a photo of himself looking for something out a window in the Oval Office, and he said, "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere." The audience laughed. I grimaced. But that wasn't the end of it. After a few more slides, there was a shot of Bush looking under furniture in the Oval Office. "Nope," he said. "No weapons over there." More laughter. Then another picture of Bush searching in his office: "Maybe under here." Laughter again.

so either evil in deed or evil in heart - send im off with cheny
 
2013-10-30 06:20:14 AM  

Phil Moskowitz: This guy should turn even the hardcore religious into atheists.


Tip of the iceberg, so to speak.
 
2013-10-30 06:53:45 AM  
Shameless asshole...
 
2013-10-30 07:02:17 AM  

sheep snorter: Mubarak may become Dictator again too, as Israel did not like the new guy who was properly elected by the people of Egypt


Yes! Israel used the powerful Jew Magic(tm) to make all those thousands march the streets against the Islamic Brotherhood once they made it quite clear how they want to run the country.
It wasn't pissed off Egyptians at Morsi for failing live up to the revolution, it was Israel! and nothing spells out 'democracy and freedom' like a fundamentalist islamic theocracy.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-30 07:07:03 AM  

Kibbler: I hope we remember this next time we're told, invade or we all die, and besides--trust me, I'm an oil man--we will loot all of their oil and everybody gets free gas.

But we won't.

Still angrier at my shiat-for-brains fellow citizens than Cheney.


And you should be - the last 60 years of U.S. foreign policy have been pure bullshiat.
Blaming Bush or Obama or any of the Presidents who have chosen the cowardly path of regurgitating that stale policy is fair enough - but not especially helpful.
We need a real revolution in foreign policy, and I don't see anybody on the horizon in either party who is likely to change it right now. We need to get more and worse bloody noses until we learn, I guess - it seems a shame.
If it took a black man in the White House for Cletus of the Trailer Park to figure out that unappreciated imperialism as foreign policy sucks - then so be it.
 
2013-10-30 07:12:43 AM  

Mambo Bananapatch: Flappyhead: And this guy hasn't been black bagged, thrown into a van, driven to an airport and flown to the Hague because?

Because neither Iraq nor the USA is a state party to the ICC. AFAIK either the alleged offender must be a citizen of a ratified state party, or the crime must have taken place in a ratified state party.

Anyway, he should be rolled up into a carpet and dumped into the East River.


IANAInternationalCriminalL, but I think also relevant is that it would be fairly difficult to establish jurisdiction even if the USA was a state-party, because it's not clear he directed specific war crimes during the war (jus in bello), and while the ICC theoretically has jurisdiction over the crime of aggression (jus ad bellum - legality of going to war in the first place), that's contingent on them working out a definition of aggression which they haven't done yet (I think there was a conference a year ago to work on this, but don't know the outcome).

Maybe on a torture charge?
 
2013-10-30 07:17:38 AM  

TappingTheVein: Yes! Israel used the powerful Jew Magic(tm) ...


* Waves hand *
In a Yiddish accent, "You will not charge me retail."
 
2013-10-30 07:17:49 AM  
And he allegedly made a good chunk of cash delivering that knowledge. What's not to like?
 
2013-10-30 07:20:02 AM  
thumbs.imagekind.com
 
2013-10-30 07:23:06 AM  
I'm curious after he passes away how many people will road trip to piss on his grave.
 
2013-10-30 07:24:38 AM  
Dementia is setting in, this is sloppy.
 
2013-10-30 07:25:33 AM  

You Are All Sheep: I'm curious after he passes away how many people will road trip to piss on his grave.


They better install good drainage.
 
2013-10-30 07:32:24 AM  
He had a heart transplant recently right?

Can you imgine the horror of a parent... finding out that your child has died, and his or her heart went to Dick Cheney..
 
2013-10-30 07:33:07 AM  
I think Canada still has laws about absorbing the souls of orphans so I don't know how he's going to cope on his trip. One a day keeps Ba'al away.
 
2013-10-30 07:37:00 AM  

Corvus: [upload.wikimedia.org image 597x599]

Yeah if only we could have had someone in there checking to see if their was WMDs without a full on war. Oh wait we did. We made it so he had to leave early and the Bush admin attacked him and discredited him.


Ding Ding Ding Ding! This is the correct and only answer.  We could have reached the conclusion that Iraq did not have any WMDs or WMD programs if we allowed the inspections to continue for as long as the inspectors in Iraq wished to continue.  And it would not have cost us $2T and half a million lives.  What a choad.
 
2013-10-30 07:43:50 AM  
I honestly cannot name one living person who disgusts me more than this criminal piece of shiat.

The lives wasted. For folly.

Go to hell, Dick. Go to hell and burn.

/hopes there's a hell
 
2013-10-30 07:46:58 AM  
One down, 195 nations to go...
 
2013-10-30 07:47:15 AM  
The Saddam regime, the Russians and the Democrats all coordinated to move Saddam's massive WMD arsenal out of Iraq and into Syria with Russian truck convoys in the days before the invasion. Everyone was happy about that at the time, especially Bush, since it would make things safer for the troops.
 
2013-10-30 07:48:56 AM  
Die in a white-hot nuclear fusion powered fire, Dick, you dick.

/and take Dubya, Rummy, Wolfie and the rest of the cabal with you as well.
 
2013-10-30 07:51:45 AM  
Either I've perfected my ignore list or not a single person has come out defending Cheney. That's just unbelievable. This is Fark, even child molesting priests get a token defense.
 
2013-10-30 08:00:11 AM  
preacherontheplaza.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-30 08:01:55 AM  

Teaser: [preacherontheplaza.files.wordpress.com image 300x405]


What is that?
 
2013-10-30 08:06:06 AM  
Dick Cheney emerges from his fortress to remind us what competent cocksuckers look like. We now return you to Ted Cruz's grandstanding.
 
2013-10-30 08:13:54 AM  

Noam Chimpsky: The Saddam regime, the Russians and the Democrats all coordinated to move Saddam's massive WMD arsenal out of Iraq and into Syria with Russian truck convoys in the days before the invasion. Everyone was happy about that at the time, especially Bush, since it would make things safer for the troops.


Elvis was there too. Plus Molly Ringworm.
 
2013-10-30 08:33:15 AM  
You know, if there were a hell, I think Dick Cheney would burn in it for eternity, but that isn't even remotely close to what he said.
 
2013-10-30 08:33:51 AM  

Heliovdrake: He had a heart transplant recently right?

Can you imgine the horror of a parent... finding out that your child has died, and his or her heart went to Dick Cheney..


About half of my family would weep tears of pure, heavenly joy at the prospect.

/perhaps moreso if that child was me
 
2013-10-30 08:41:09 AM  
Wonder where Syria got their WMDs from....  roads, trucks, close proximity to Iraq... hmmmm....
 
2013-10-30 08:41:50 AM  
I read this article (except for the book quote) in Arlo Guthrie's voice, with "Alice's Restaurant" playing in the background.  It made it marginally less depressing.
 
2013-10-30 08:42:16 AM  
Just noticed this went green at 9:11 last night.


Well played modmins. Well played indeed.
 
2013-10-30 08:46:50 AM  
hydra-media.cursecdn.com

Cheney's missing original heart?
 
2013-10-30 08:47:17 AM  

Sgt Otter: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I was a freshman in high school when the invasion of Iraq happened. To date, three people I know are dead because of it - 2 killed in action, 1 killed by suicide.

Cheney should be damned grateful he has lifetime secret service protection because someone (not me, I don't condone violence against public officials) will be constantly planning to take a shot at him.

A couple years ago, I took a road trip to see the memorial my old unit put up, from my last tour in Iraq.

[img.photobucket.com image 800x450]

I'm not as angry about the war as I was, but Jesus Christ, it's like he's trying to be a smug asshole about it.


Thank you for your service.
 
2013-10-30 08:49:04 AM  

OlderGuy: Wonder where Syria got their WMDs from....  roads, trucks, close proximity to Iraq... hmmmm....


Yep, no possible way they could have manufactured their own.

Also, you've got to be a special kind of idiot to say "Saddam moved all his weapons to Syria" in an attempt to justify the invasion of Iraq.
 
2013-10-30 08:49:25 AM  

syrynxx: What was the US debt before invading a sovereign nation that didn't threaten the US? Five trillion or so?


Don't forget that we were "allegedly" in a surplus and set to pay off that debt in 10 years.  Given that we are now $16T in the hole (and granted not ALL of it was spent on war), the awesometacular Bush years only cost us about $20T in debt.
 
2013-10-30 08:50:27 AM  
It's great that the media keeps giving him a soapbox to bloviate from, when in reality he should be spending his retirement in a federal prison.
 
2013-10-30 08:50:38 AM  

Noam Chimpsky: The Saddam regime, the Russians and the Democrats all coordinated to move Saddam's massive WMD arsenal out of Iraq and into Syria with Russian truck convoys in the days before the invasion. Everyone was happy about that at the time, especially Bush, since it would make things safer for the troops.


Well, whaddya know... conservative humor *does* exist. Good one!
 
2013-10-30 08:51:12 AM  
 
2013-10-30 08:52:20 AM  

fusillade762: exick: What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that.

If your biggest concern was eliminating potential sources of weapons for terrorists, why is it that you shot some old Texas lawyer instead of Rumsfeld or yourself?

Saddam wasn't exactly cozy with al Qaeda. There was no way they were getting ahold of his non-existent WMDs. Cheney's either being disingenuous or he's been drinking way too much of his own Kool-Aid.


Talk about "learning the lessons of 9/11" -- the biggest lesson should have been that non-state actors are a threat.  We've successfully deterred established state actors like Iraq for decades, but we didn't realize that organizations like al-Qaeda can be a threat and cannot be deterred because of their fluid nature.

Instead, I hear Richard Perle get interviewed on the anniversary of 9/11 on NPR and tell the interviewer that the biggest lesson of 9/11 was the threat from WMDs.  Even though AQ successfully attacked multiple American targets without using any WMDs.  And so we attack Iraq, even though they're no threat to us because we've kicked their asses so many times already.
 
2013-10-30 08:52:49 AM  

OlderGuy: Wonder where Syria got their WMDs from....  roads, trucks, close proximity to Iraq... hmmmm....


just asking questions.

/study it out
 
2013-10-30 08:56:54 AM  

Arkanaut: Instead, I hear Richard Perle get interviewed on the anniversary of 9/11 on NPR and tell the interviewer that the biggest lesson of 9/11 was the threat from WMDs.


*quadruple facepalm*

I'm not sure these people were actually around during the past decade. Cryogenics? Time travel? Alternate dimension? It's the only way I can explain the utter ignorance of everything that happened.
 
2013-10-30 08:59:40 AM  

qorkfiend: Arkanaut: Instead, I hear Richard Perle get interviewed on the anniversary of 9/11 on NPR and tell the interviewer that the biggest lesson of 9/11 was the threat from WMDs.

*quadruple facepalm*

I'm not sure these people were actually around during the past decade. Cryogenics? Time travel? Alternate dimension? It's the only way I can explain the utter ignorance of everything that happened.


Naah, just a lethal dose of that special something that makes Republicans the unique and insufferable assholes that they are--Cognitive Dissonance.
 
2013-10-30 09:01:58 AM  

Wessoman: qorkfiend: Arkanaut: Instead, I hear Richard Perle get interviewed on the anniversary of 9/11 on NPR and tell the interviewer that the biggest lesson of 9/11 was the threat from WMDs.

*quadruple facepalm*

I'm not sure these people were actually around during the past decade. Cryogenics? Time travel? Alternate dimension? It's the only way I can explain the utter ignorance of everything that happened.

Naah, just a lethal dose of that special something that makes Republicans the unique and insufferable assholes that they are--Cognitive Dissonance.


Hah. We only wish it was a lethal dose.
 
2013-10-30 09:04:13 AM  
TommyDeuce:

[blog.gettyimages.com image 660x424]

img.fark.net

I want to buy the house across from Dick Cheney, paint it white, then project this image on the front of my house 24/7 . Under it I will rotate quotes from Dick Cheney.

* We will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.
* I think they're in  the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency.
* If we had to do it over again  we would do exactly the same thing.
* His regime has had high-level contacts with al Qaeda going back a decade and has provided training to al Qaeda terrorists.
* I had other priorities in the 60's than military service   - Dick Cheney
* We now know that Saddam [Hussein] has resumed his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons.
 
2013-10-30 09:06:46 AM  

SpectroBoy: I want to buy the house across from Dick Cheney


He lives in Jackson Hole Wyoming, I can give you the address but have to warn you. Expensive neighborhood.
 
2013-10-30 09:09:19 AM  

monoski: SpectroBoy: I want to buy the house across from Dick Cheney

He lives in Jackson Hole Wyoming, I can give you the address but have to warn you. Expensive neighborhood.


His house in McLean VA is also in a pretty expensive neighborhood. Couldn't really see the house across the street from it either.
 
2013-10-30 09:10:24 AM  

Wadded Beef: This guy is coming back as a toilet brush.


Nah.... if karma, reincarnation, and some sort of intelligence after death are real then he'll come back and see it from the THEIR perspective.  Then once that life is over he'll remember both and be forced to remember he caused all that suffering for eternity.  THAT's punishment, to not simply KNOW what you did but to understand it.
 
2013-10-30 09:10:24 AM  
humor.beecy.net
 
2013-10-30 09:13:07 AM  
5000 dead troops say you're welcome
 
2013-10-30 09:17:35 AM  
but yet he is still a better choice to run the country than any other republican candidate for president.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-30 09:20:06 AM  
His face makes me sick.  Exchanging dead soldiers for money is as evil as it gets.
 
2013-10-30 09:20:51 AM  

Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.


Anybody who can go out hunting, shoot his buddy in the face, and then get that buddy to publicly apologize for getting in the way of his birdshot is a special type of asshole...
 
2013-10-30 09:23:23 AM  

Headso: but yet he is still a better choice to run the country than any other republican candidate for president.


Oh. my. god.

You're right.

Just let that sink in for a while.
 
2013-10-30 09:28:20 AM  
Dick and Donald planned this for a really long time.....
 
2013-10-30 09:29:54 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: Dick and Donald planned this for a really long time.....


Dangit.

Try this again...
www.weeklystandard.com
 
2013-10-30 09:30:37 AM  

nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK


nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK


nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK


nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK


nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK


nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK


nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK
 
2013-10-30 09:32:33 AM  

cc_rider: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN_vgTsRdjM,Download with AllDebridThere are few things that can actually cause me to tremble with anger. But there is no Hell that's hot enough for  sociopathic MFs like Cheney.


Never Forget!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN_vgTsRdjM


Nice... I'm not sure that the whole 'all the found was a plaque that said Peace on Earth' applies to Iraq in any way, but that video was well done and covered all of the cast of A-holes perfectly.
 
2013-10-30 09:34:09 AM  

pueblonative: spawn73: Yeah, that government was "teh ebil" in the context of the cold war. But at least communists have this thing with universal free education, healthcare and building lots of infrastructure. And they don't differentiate between boys or girls.

You might want to inform the Chinese about that. . .


Hah yeah.
 
2013-10-30 09:35:05 AM  

Headso: but yet he is still a better choice to run the country than any other republican candidate for president.


Oh, God...I think I'm going to be sick.
The worst part? The Democrats will run Hillary, who is unpalatable to many of us who were paying attention in the 90's, or if she doesn't run, a Kerry clone. I live in Ohio, so I don't get the luxury of voting my conscience; I'm forced to vote for the Democrat. Christ, I wish I were blissfully ignorant about politics.
 
2013-10-30 09:35:34 AM  

b2theory: spawn73: Karac:

We create thousands upon thousands of more terrorists and extremists by invading Iraq than we ever killed there.  The US invading Iraq was the greatest recruiting commercial for terrorists in the world since the Russians invaded Afghanistan.

The Soviet Union didn't invade Afghanistan.

There government of Afghanistan asked for the help of the Soviet Union.


Yeah, that government was "teh ebil" in the context of the cold war. But at least communists have this thing with universal free education, healthcare and building lots of infrastructure. And they don't differentiate between boys or girls.

Whatever came after the Soviet Union leaving has just been pure shiat for Afghanistan.

By that math we didn't invade Vietnam.


Which is probably why noone ever claims USA did.
 
2013-10-30 09:36:29 AM  

clkeagle: And thanks to you - they also have about 500,000 fewer citizens and 50% less infrastructure now.


Yeah, remember the weekly "progress reports" from Iraq? The ones that would mention a road being reopened, a school being built, refineries being brought up to speed? They almost always ended up being 'back up to prewar levels'. Occasionally, they went beyond 'prewar levels', but usually, it was either just back to what it had been before we broke the place, or "Still not there yet."...
 
2013-10-30 09:46:50 AM  

nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK


So you are saying your mother loves Dick Cheney?

/Had to go there.
 
2013-10-30 09:48:10 AM  
Let me chime in and add...

Dick Cheney, you are a dirty butthole..
 
2013-10-30 09:48:55 AM  

Prophet of Loss: You Are All Sheep: I'm curious after he passes away how many people will road trip to piss on his grave.

They better install good drainage.



There will be so much urine around Cheney's grave, a lifeguard will be needed.
 
2013-10-30 09:52:39 AM  

Kibbler: Still angrier at my shiat-for-brains fellow citizens than Cheney.


This. Who is the greater fool, the fool or the one who follows him?
 
2013-10-30 09:55:58 AM  
You know what I think, Dick? I think you're an evil man. I think this is a shakedown. It's nothing but a Goddamn screw-job. I think you took Nathan Jr.
 
2013-10-30 09:57:48 AM  

Mikey1969: clkeagle: And thanks to you - they also have about 500,000 fewer citizens and 50% less infrastructure now.

Yeah, remember the weekly "progress reports" from Iraq? The ones that would mention a road being reopened, a school being built, refineries being brought up to speed? They almost always ended up being 'back up to prewar levels'. Occasionally, they went beyond 'prewar levels', but usually, it was either just back to what it had been before we broke the place, or "Still not there yet."...


That's because, prewar, Iraq was a pretty damn advanced country. At least, the parts in and around Baghdad were. It's not Afghanistan.

As far as Dick Cheney goes... Christ, what an asshole.
 
2013-10-30 10:05:13 AM  
If something made your family billions of dollars wouldn't you think it was worth it? Sure lots of dead soldiers...but whatever. Billions!
 
2013-10-30 10:06:26 AM  

OlderGuy: Wonder where Syria got their WMDs from....  roads, trucks, close proximity to Iraq... hmmmm....


It's almost November.
 
2013-10-30 10:06:33 AM  

Gonz: Mikey1969: clkeagle: And thanks to you - they also have about 500,000 fewer citizens and 50% less infrastructure now.

Yeah, remember the weekly "progress reports" from Iraq? The ones that would mention a road being reopened, a school being built, refineries being brought up to speed? They almost always ended up being 'back up to prewar levels'. Occasionally, they went beyond 'prewar levels', but usually, it was either just back to what it had been before we broke the place, or "Still not there yet."...

That's because, prewar, Iraq was a pretty damn advanced country. At least, the parts in and around Baghdad were. It's not Afghanistan.

As far as Dick Cheney goes... Christ, what an asshole.


Well, my point was that we were going there to "improve" the place and supposedly make things better for everyone...
 
2013-10-30 10:06:59 AM  

CheatCommando: Kibbler: Still angrier at my shiat-for-brains fellow citizens than Cheney.

This. Who is the greater fool, the fool or the one who follows him?


The Fool is always the greater fool, that's why so many lesser fools follow him.
There is only one Great Fool... And many, many lesser fools.
 
2013-10-30 10:08:43 AM  

Fail in Human Form: Nah.... if karma, reincarnation, and some sort of intelligence after death are real then he'll come back and see it from the THEIR perspective.  Then once that life is over he'll remember both and be forced to remember he caused all that suffering for eternity.  THAT's punishment, to not simply KNOW what you did but to understand it.


You're thinking reincarnation has to work in linear time. The best outcome is that Cheney is reincarnated as every single one of the people who suffered from his decisions. I wish the universe worked that way.

/buddhist
//doesn't believe in reincarnation
 
2013-10-30 10:10:51 AM  

Mikey1969: Gonz: Mikey1969: clkeagle: And thanks to you - they also have about 500,000 fewer citizens and 50% less infrastructure now.

Yeah, remember the weekly "progress reports" from Iraq? The ones that would mention a road being reopened, a school being built, refineries being brought up to speed? They almost always ended up being 'back up to prewar levels'. Occasionally, they went beyond 'prewar levels', but usually, it was either just back to what it had been before we broke the place, or "Still not there yet."...

That's because, prewar, Iraq was a pretty damn advanced country. At least, the parts in and around Baghdad were. It's not Afghanistan.

As far as Dick Cheney goes... Christ, what an asshole.

Well, my point was that we were going there to "improve" the place and supposedly make things better for everyone...


Yes, it was all a lie, we know that now. Most of us knew it then. Your point is obsolete, or a dead horse beater, because the truth has always been evident- Evil men made billions off our gullible, xenophobic, selfish and sick society.
 
2013-10-30 10:14:16 AM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Fail in Human Form: Nah.... if karma, reincarnation, and some sort of intelligence after death are real then he'll come back and see it from the THEIR perspective.  Then once that life is over he'll remember both and be forced to remember he caused all that suffering for eternity.  THAT's punishment, to not simply KNOW what you did but to understand it.

You're thinking reincarnation has to work in linear time. The best outcome is that Cheney is reincarnated as every single one of the people who suffered from his decisions. I wish the universe worked that way.

/buddhist
//doesn't believe in reincarnation


For Karma to work with Dick Cheney, another planet must spring to life, with birds chirping, kitties meowing and babies laughing... And good times for all! In order to even out his black mark on the world.

/buddhist
/who cares
 
2013-10-30 10:18:06 AM  

LarryDan43: If something made your family billions of dollars wouldn't you think it was worth it? Sure lots of dead soldiers...but whatever. Billions!


Reminds me of a scene near the end of the movie "A Man for All Seasons", right after a witness by the name of Richard Rich gave false testimony to convict Sir Thomas More of treason:

Thomas More: There is one question I would like to ask the witness.
That's a chain of office you're wearing.
(to the judge) May I see it?


[More looks at the chain around Rich's neck]

Thomas More: The Red Dragon. What's this?
Court Judge: Sir Richard is appointed Attorney General for Wales.
Thomas More: Why, Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his
soul for the whole world. But for Wales?


Considering the fact that Cheney is totally bereft of a soul, the question of choice between billions of dollars and dead soldiers would have never entered his thought processes.
 
2013-10-30 10:18:57 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Hey, save a slice of that blame pie for the 70% of Americans who couldn't be bothered to spend the five seconds necessary to realize the administration's claims simply didn't add up. Of course, you'll have trouble finding them... none of them admit it now.


In the eternal war between logic and emotion, emotion wonthat battle with horrifying and disasterous results.
 
2013-10-30 10:19:47 AM  
www.blackbookmag.com

Well, you can't argue with that kind of logic.
 
2013-10-30 10:24:20 AM  

TopoGigo: Headso: but yet he is still a better choice to run the country than any other republican candidate for president.

Oh, God...I think I'm going to be sick.
The worst part? The Democrats will run Hillary, who is unpalatable to many of us who were paying attention in the 90's, or if she doesn't run, a Kerry clone. I live in Ohio, so I don't get the luxury of voting my conscience; I'm forced to vote for the Democrat. Christ, I wish I were blissfully ignorant about politics.


I get that age and her being a Clinton are factors for some people, but those things aside, what makes her a bad candidate?
 
2013-10-30 10:25:03 AM  

BMulligan: This is a guinea worm (Dracunculus medinensis):

[www.malevolentdesign.org image 300x273]

D. medinensis is a parasite which has been reported in humans, dogs, cats, horses, cattle, and other animals in Africa and Asia. It enters a host by way of host ingestion of stagnant water contaminated with copepods (water fleas) infested with guinea worm larvae. The adult worm grows within the host and eventually moves downwards, usually to the lower leg, through the subcutaneous tissues it leads to intense pain localized to its path of travel. The painful, burning sensation experienced by infected people has led to the disease being called "the fiery serpent". Other symptoms include fever, nausea, and vomiting. Once a Guinea worm begins emerging, the first step is to do a controlled submersion of the affected area in a bucket of water. This causes the worm to discharge many of its larva, making it less infectious. The water is then discarded on the ground far away from any water source. Submersion results in subjective relief of the burning sensation and makes subsequent extraction of the worm easier. To extract the worm, a person must wrap the live worm around a piece of gauze or a stick. The process can be long, taking anywhere from hours to months. It is of great importance not to break the worm when pulling it out. Broken worms have a tendency to putrefy or petrify. Putrefaction leads to the skin sloughing off around the worm. Petrification is a problem if the worm is in a joint or wrapped around a vein or other important area.

Dick Cheney is the only person who ever lived who actually deserves guinea worms. Sadly, they are repulsed by him and will have nothing to do with him.


And who's been working for the last 3 decades to ensure that neither Cheney nor anyone else has to endure such an agonizing experience?

i.imgur.com
This guy.
 
2013-10-30 10:25:26 AM  
Why hasn't this man died yet?  If there is a god, obviously he/she/it has a very sick sense of humor.
 
2013-10-30 10:26:59 AM  

bwilson27: Your point is obsolete, or a dead horse beater,


Well, it's a damned good thing that I hadn't been talking to you anyway, isn't it?
 
2013-10-30 10:28:37 AM  

verbaltoxin: TopoGigo: Headso: but yet he is still a better choice to run the country than any other republican candidate for president.

Oh, God...I think I'm going to be sick.
The worst part? The Democrats will run Hillary, who is unpalatable to many of us who were paying attention in the 90's, or if she doesn't run, a Kerry clone. I live in Ohio, so I don't get the luxury of voting my conscience; I'm forced to vote for the Democrat. Christ, I wish I were blissfully ignorant about politics.

I get that age and her being a Clinton are factors for some people, but those things aside, what makes her a bad candidate?


None, people have just heard that she's supposed to be a bad candidate, I have yet to hear an explanation to the "I'm a lefty but I hate Hillary" thing.
 
2013-10-30 10:32:24 AM  
lh4.googleusercontent.com

What Cheney needs is a penance stare so he can begin to
imagine  the pain and suffering he has brought to this world.
 
2013-10-30 10:33:05 AM  

verbaltoxin: TopoGigo: Headso: but yet he is still a better choice to run the country than any other republican candidate for president.

Oh, God...I think I'm going to be sick.
The worst part? The Democrats will run Hillary, who is unpalatable to many of us who were paying attention in the 90's, or if she doesn't run, a Kerry clone. I live in Ohio, so I don't get the luxury of voting my conscience; I'm forced to vote for the Democrat. Christ, I wish I were blissfully ignorant about politics.

I get that age and her being a Clinton are factors for some people, but those things aside, what makes her a bad candidate?


Dynasty! It will be like having a king ruling us all for centuries! Her husband was president so ANYONE named Clinton should be barred from the presidency forever because of royal families! No more Bushes, Clintons, Obamas!
 
2013-10-30 10:36:01 AM  

SpectroBoy: [lh4.googleusercontent.com image 382x382]

What Cheney needs is a penance stare so he can begin to
imagine  the pain and suffering he has brought to this world.



The penance stare only works on people that HAVE a soul.
 
2013-10-30 10:36:07 AM  

Mikey1969: verbaltoxin: TopoGigo: Headso: but yet he is still a better choice to run the country than any other republican candidate for president.

Oh, God...I think I'm going to be sick.
The worst part? The Democrats will run Hillary, who is unpalatable to many of us who were paying attention in the 90's, or if she doesn't run, a Kerry clone. I live in Ohio, so I don't get the luxury of voting my conscience; I'm forced to vote for the Democrat. Christ, I wish I were blissfully ignorant about politics.

I get that age and her being a Clinton are factors for some people, but those things aside, what makes her a bad candidate?

None, people have just heard that she's supposed to be a bad candidate, I have yet to hear an explanation to the "I'm a lefty but I hate Hillary" thing.


It can't be memories of the 90s because that decade was pretty awesome, economically speaking.
 
2013-10-30 10:44:16 AM  

verbaltoxin: It can't be memories of the 90s because that decade was pretty awesome, economically speaking.


I can't really think of anything she did but be First Lady... Basically, I think Ann Coulter screamed "Hillary Sucks" louder than everyone said "Wait, what?", so she won...
 
2013-10-30 10:57:25 AM  
fusillade762:

Saddam wasn't exactly cozy with al Qaeda. There was no way they were getting ahold of his non-existent WMDs. Cheney's either being disingenuous or he's been drinking way too much of his own Kool-Aid.

Six of one, half-dozen of the other.  Saddam's had business with terrorist groups, half-assed patronage similar to the funding we provide terrorist groups that attack Iranian authorities.  Which is not what Dick was implying (disingenuous) and he has managed to convince himself that WMD nonsense was possible.

He's even convinced himself that the war paid for itself and the national debt is because of unions and welfare, and if we just did away with social spending everything would self-correct.
 
2013-10-30 11:02:43 AM  

NeverDrunk23: verbaltoxin: TopoGigo: Headso: but yet he is still a better choice to run the country than any other republican candidate for president.

Oh, God...I think I'm going to be sick.
The worst part? The Democrats will run Hillary, who is unpalatable to many of us who were paying attention in the 90's, or if she doesn't run, a Kerry clone. I live in Ohio, so I don't get the luxury of voting my conscience; I'm forced to vote for the Democrat. Christ, I wish I were blissfully ignorant about politics.

I get that age and her being a Clinton are factors for some people, but those things aside, what makes her a bad candidate?

Dynasty! It will be like having a king ruling us all for centuries! Her husband was president so ANYONE named Clinton should be barred from the presidency forever because of royal families! No more Bushes, Clintons, Obamas!


Best part is that there's only one family in that list that has had more than one family member elected president. Might as well scream "No more Nixons, Trumans, or Eisenhowers!"
 
2013-10-30 11:04:38 AM  

Rann Xerox: SpectroBoy: [lh4.googleusercontent.com image 382x382]

What Cheney needs is a penance stare so he can begin to
imagine  the pain and suffering he has brought to this world.


The penance stare only works on people that HAVE a soul.


If he lacks a soul then I guess he doesn't deserve punishment.

I happen to believe he has one. A small black withered soul that he has suppressed for decades, but a soul.
 
2013-10-30 11:05:47 AM  

vicepresidents.com

 
2013-10-30 11:10:25 AM  

www.carlsontoons.com

i190.photobucket.com

 
2013-10-30 11:11:34 AM  

verbaltoxin: None, people have just heard that she's supposed to be a bad candidate, I have yet to hear an explanation to the "I'm a lefty but I hate Hillary" thing.


I like Hillary quite a bit. I just don't think she'd be a good President. She's smart, she's hard working, she's thorough and she's tough. She was a fine Senator and a very good Secretary of State. I would put her on the Supreme Court in a heartbeat. But she doesn't have the vision or the ability to inspire that a President needs.

So it's not about hating Hillary. It's about realizing that she and the Presidency aren't the best match.
 
2013-10-30 11:15:27 AM  

verbaltoxin: Mikey1969: verbaltoxin: TopoGigo: Headso: but yet he is still a better choice to run the country than any other republican candidate for president.

Oh, God...I think I'm going to be sick.
The worst part? The Democrats will run Hillary, who is unpalatable to many of us who were paying attention in the 90's, or if she doesn't run, a Kerry clone. I live in Ohio, so I don't get the luxury of voting my conscience; I'm forced to vote for the Democrat. Christ, I wish I were blissfully ignorant about politics.

I get that age and her being a Clinton are factors for some people, but those things aside, what makes her a bad candidate?

None, people have just heard that she's supposed to be a bad candidate, I have yet to hear an explanation to the "I'm a lefty but I hate Hillary" thing.

It can't be memories of the 90s because that decade was pretty awesome, economically speaking.


Well, it's not bad memories of the 90's. I rather liked Bill as president, all things considered. There was plenty of sh*t he did that I didn't like, but you'll have that with any president.

Hillary isn't a bad candidate, necessarily, as she'd probably win, but she enrages conservatives so much that she might blow the downticket with their turnout. That's not really my concern, though. My concern is that I think she'd be a bad president.

I think she'd reward the party faithful with patronage positions, just like W. did, and we can ill afford incompetent ass-kissers in the executive branch again. I also think she'd bring on board another corporate shill for VP. Biden's bad enough, but imagine if we got someone with Gore's political chops who owed as much to Wall Street and Wilmington as Uncle Joe. The nascent CFPB would be murdered, or at least gelded, in its infancy.

I also think she's a radical in all the wrong ways. I'd love to have a radical like Sanders in the White House*, but she's more of a radical like Bloomberg, IMO. I fear she'd spend her capital fighting all the wrong fights, and alienate independent voters the way the GOP's war on vagina has for them.

*Not Sanders himself, probably, but someone like him.

She'll fight for gun control, but not fairer taxes. She'll fight for union bosses' power and rights, but not for union workers' rights. She won't fight for a higher minimum wage, but she might fight for some token Social Security fix, like a 1% raise in the cap or some crap like that. If she fights for immigration reform, it will be in a manner that will benefit corporations more than either the immigrants or the native workers in danger of being replaced. I feel that she'd fight for nearly the exact opposite of all the things Fark loves Elizabeth Warren for, but somehow, Fark still loves Hillary. I know her tenure as Secretary of State has shined the hell out of her image, but surely we can think back far enough to remember what an entitled harpy she was in the '08 primaries.

Mostly, though, she's old. Not old in body, but old in spirit. I don't want another administration fighting yesterday's battles with yesterday's sensibilities. The true beauty of the Clinton and Obama presidencies was the youth of them. George W. should have had the same vigor, but he brought Nixon and Reagan's offal in with him. We're in the midst of a culture war in this country, and have been for the last 60 years. I, for one, don't want to be led by a general from 20+ years ago. I don't want my representative to fight the battles of Watergate and Murphy Brown.

In short, I don't want the Democratic version of George W. Bush's presidency. I want someone who will fight for the working poor. I want someone who knows who the "middle class" truly are in this country, and that they're less of a "middle class" than they are a small, landed gentry. I want someone who knows that the people we assume are "middle class" in this country are nothing but the working poor, many of us living beyond our means through credit. I want someone who will push hard for marriage equality, who will push for demilitarization of the police, who will punch the NSA, the TSA, and Homeland Security hard in the nose and put them in their place. Hillary is none of these things. Elizabeth Warren is most of these things. There has to be some budding rock star out in the states who could be all of these things. I feel like I've seen some lesbian governor who I'd love to vote for, but damned if I can remember her name.

On the plus side, it would be funny as hell to see her constantly kick Boner and McTurtle's asses back and forth across the Senate/House floors. If there's one thing she'd be good for, it's putting the goddamned Tea Party monster in its sniveling grave for good.
 
2013-10-30 11:18:02 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to "liberate" Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called "democracy" in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq's oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level-moral, strategic, military and economic-Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.

--Tomas Young, Iraq War Disabled Veteran


Goddamn, that put it perfectly. I bolded the most important part, for emphasis.

Dick Cheney will never be forgiven. Not in 1,000 years.
 
2013-10-30 11:21:41 AM  

The Why Not Guy: verbaltoxin: None, people have just heard that she's supposed to be a bad candidate, I have yet to hear an explanation to the "I'm a lefty but I hate Hillary" thing.

I like Hillary quite a bit. I just don't think she'd be a good President. She's smart, she's hard working, she's thorough and she's tough.


She was a fine Senator

I didn't think she was a good Senator, but she wasn't my Senator so I'll defer to New Yorkers on that.

and a very good Secretary of State.

Agreed.

I would put her on the Supreme Court in a heartbeat.

Sure, why not, but she'd never, ever be confirmed.

But she doesn't have the vision or the ability to inspire that a President needs.

She has the vision, just not the vision that I want to see in there.
She had the ability to inspire 20 years ago. She was no small part of Bill's popularity. She really hurt him in the midterms, though. Conservatives hated her worse than they hate Obama, and they came out in droves in off-year elections because of it.

So it's not about hating Hillary. It's about realizing that she and the Presidency aren't the best match.

It's a little of both for me, honestly.
 
2013-10-30 12:01:38 PM  
 And the Right loves this soulless monster.
 
2013-10-30 12:06:22 PM  

HypnozombieX: And the Right loves this soulless monster.


Not any more. It's hard to find anybody who admits to liking him.
 
2013-10-30 01:16:43 PM  
I farking hate Dick Cheney so much. Just die already!
 
2013-10-30 01:50:38 PM  

sendtodave: PsiChick: nocturnal001: Man, I used to think I disliked Cheney but after reading this thread I feel like I am forcibly defaulted to be his fan club president.

Is it a war crime to be amazingly wrong about how you can change the world via force?

Now, torturing people to gain intell...that is getting there.

Except he wasn't going in for ideological, spreading-democracy reasons--he and Bush were going in to prevent a 'smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud'.

In other words? They lied.

I'm still not convinced that W was in on the lie.


Eh, me either--the guy seems dumber than a box of rocks--but it's also possible he had some grasp that he was lying and didn't care because he honestly viewed them brown furriners as ebul, too. That's for a court of law to decide at the end of the day, or should be in a just world.
 
2013-10-30 02:04:37 PM  

Mikey1969: None, people have just heard that she's supposed to be a bad candidate, I have yet to hear an explanation to the "I'm a lefty but I hate Hillary" thing.


I'll answer that.

I am a lifelong Democrat and I oppose Hillary running in 2016. When John McCain rain in 2004, one of the reasons I opposed him was that I considered him to be too old to endure the stresses of the office. Hillary Clinton will only be a year or two younger in 2016 than McCain was in 2004. Since I can't justify "it's different because she's a Democrat" I have to oppose her run for that office.
 
2013-10-30 02:14:11 PM  

Fail in Human Form: if karma, reincarnation, and some sort of intelligence after death are real then he'll come back and see it from the THEIR perspective


If the concept of  karma is real at all then it would have to be in the afterlife because it sure as fark doesn't exist in this one. And people who say that karma is real in this life farking annoy me. Of course a drug dealer who kills people will probably get killed or arrested. That's not karma. There are way too many evil people who profit from their evil and way too many good people who get farked for "karma" to exist.
 
2013-10-30 02:18:55 PM  

Mugato: Fail in Human Form: if karma, reincarnation, and some sort of intelligence after death are real then he'll come back and see it from the THEIR perspective

If the concept of  karma is real at all then it would have to be in the afterlife because it sure as fark doesn't exist in this one. And people who say that karma is real in this life farking annoy me. Of course a drug dealer who kills people will probably get killed or arrested. That's not karma. There are way too many evil people who profit from their evil and way too many good people who get farked for "karma" to exist.


"What goes around, comes around" is more or less true. It's an excellent idea to live your life as if karma were real. Actually believing it, though, is stupid.
 
2013-10-30 02:24:37 PM  

Mugato: If the concept of  karma is real at all then it would have to be in the afterlife because it sure as fark doesn't exist in this one. And people who say that karma is real in this life farking annoy me. Of course a drug dealer who kills people will probably get killed or arrested. That's not karma. There are way too many evil people who profit from their evil and way too many good people who get farked for "karma" to exist.


Karma, when you remove all the woo the hippies added to our western concept of the word, is simply cause and effect. The word literally means "action" or "cause" and is distinct from the "fruit of karma" or the effect. That's it, no magic, no cosmic force of justice, just cause and effect.

Bad shiat* happens because people do bad shiat. If you do bad shiat, then you're contributing to the bad shiat in the world and increasing the chances that bad shiat will happen to you.

/this is distinct from random but unpleasant shiat*
 
2013-10-30 02:46:24 PM  

krackpipe: Noam Chimpsky: The Saddam regime, the Russians and the Democrats all coordinated to move Saddam's massive WMD arsenal out of Iraq and into Syria with Russian truck convoys in the days before the invasion. Everyone was happy about that at the time, especially Bush, since it would make things safer for the troops.

Elvis was there too. Plus Molly Ringworm.


The interesting thing is that Assad has no reason to cover up the WMD transfer any longer except that it might embarrass their Russian allies. It would devestate the Democrats though. Probably destroy them for good.
 
2013-10-30 02:50:29 PM  

TopoGigo: "What goes around, comes around" is more or less true. It's an excellent idea to live your life as if karma were real. Actually believing it, though, is stupid.


I follow this premise because I'm not a dick. However, I don't pretend that evil people always get their comeuppance. Because they don't. Nor do good people get what they deserve. Karma is bullshiat.
 
2013-10-30 03:01:40 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Mikey1969: None, people have just heard that she's supposed to be a bad candidate, I have yet to hear an explanation to the "I'm a lefty but I hate Hillary" thing.

I'll answer that.

I am a lifelong Democrat and I oppose Hillary running in 2016. When John McCain rain in 2004, one of the reasons I opposed him was that I considered him to be too old to endure the stresses of the office. Hillary Clinton will only be a year or two younger in 2016 than McCain was in 2004. Since I can't justify "it's different because she's a Democrat" I have to oppose her run for that office.


That's the most coherent reason anyone has given, I don' think age is the factor it used to be, but at least you'e not saying something about her looks, which is about as far as most of them get.
 
2013-10-30 03:22:22 PM  

Mikey1969: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Mikey1969: None, people have just heard that she's supposed to be a bad candidate, I have yet to hear an explanation to the "I'm a lefty but I hate Hillary" thing.

I'll answer that.

I am a lifelong Democrat and I oppose Hillary running in 2016. When John McCain rain in 2004, one of the reasons I opposed him was that I considered him to be too old to endure the stresses of the office. Hillary Clinton will only be a year or two younger in 2016 than McCain was in 2004. Since I can't justify "it's different because she's a Democrat" I have to oppose her run for that office.

That's the most coherent reason anyone has given, I don' think age is the factor it used to be, but at least you'e not saying something about her looks, which is about as far as most of them get.


Even though physical age isn't my problem with her, I get it. Presidentin' is a taxing job. Just look how it aged Bush Sr., W, and Obama. Interestingly, blowjobs must help, since Bill didn't seem to fare as badly.
 
2013-10-30 03:26:57 PM  

TopoGigo: Even though physical age isn't my problem with her, I get it. Presidentin' is a taxing job. Just look how it aged Bush Sr., W, and Obama. Interestingly, blowjobs must help, since Bill didn't seem to fare as badly.


Bill was pretty young to start with and, yeah, regular "relaxation" breaks probably helped.
 
2013-10-30 03:36:53 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: TopoGigo: Even though physical age isn't my problem with her, I get it. Presidentin' is a taxing job. Just look how it aged Bush Sr., W, and Obama. Interestingly, blowjobs must help, since Bill didn't seem to fare as badly.

Bill was pretty young to start with and, yeah, regular "relaxation" breaks probably helped.


Obama was only a year older, and he's not even done yet. Interestingly, Reagan didn't age that badly, either. I've heard stories about Nancy...
 
2013-10-30 04:49:54 PM  
Very much worth it. You think you want Chamberlain, who was a pussy, but in reality you need a dick. You need a person like Churchill.
And that's why Dick Cheney is a hero.
Now there is not a single country in the world who would either attack us directly or sponsor some asshole terrorist group to do it for them... Because we are the strongest, and we have the biggest army in the world and we got the drive, resolve and conviction and power to raise the Old Glory across the country when we are attacked and three thousand plus people die and go into the hell-hole ourselves, not just to punish the terrorist squads but to declare onto the entire world:

YOU ASSHOLES! YOU TOOK DOWN TWO OF OUR BUILDINGS? WE WILL TAKE DOWN TWO OF YOUR COUNTRIES! TRY AGAIN, MOTHERFARKERS!

And that's the greatest point we can ever make.
 
2013-10-30 04:53:50 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: TheShavingofOccam123: I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to "liberate" Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called "democracy" in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq's oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level-moral, strategic, military and economic-Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.

--Tomas Young, Iraq War Disabled Veteran

Was not that the dude who can't make up his mind if he wants to live or die?
 
2013-10-30 04:55:39 PM  

TheOmni: Chariset: gaslight: The man's shameless.

And heartless.  Void of compassion.  Lacking in conscience.

Also a war criminal.


I know. He absolutely is. Just like these assholes Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Patton and McArthur for killing so many innocent German Children. REMEMBER THE DRESDEN BOMBING!!!! FOreVER!11
 
2013-10-30 04:58:20 PM  

nekom: SHUT UP DICK CHENEY, YOU COCK


retards going absolute nutz.
Hey Nekom, at least he is a cock, and not like a sleezy biatch pussy like you. (I can see you crying as you read it...)
 
2013-10-30 05:01:02 PM  

fusillade762: exick: What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that.

If your biggest concern was eliminating potential sources of weapons for terrorists, why is it that you shot some old Texas lawyer instead of Rumsfeld or yourself?

Saddam wasn't exactly cozy with al Qaeda. There was no way they were getting ahold of his non-existent WMDs. Cheney's either being disingenuous or he's been drinking way too much of his own Kool-Aid.


Smart dude first smart argument.
This was not just about Al Qaeda. It was about the Baath ultra-nationalist pan-Arabian ideology throughout the Middle East, which was the cause, the Qaeda was simply a symptom of the same problem that took on Islamic cause.
 
2013-10-30 05:04:13 PM  

Karac: 2: cchris_39: The reading comprehension around here is somewhere between Creationist Peter and Feral Peter.

Please enlighten us, o wise one: which part of this quote are we misinterpreting?

"What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that."

Even if you take Cheney's statement is the most positive light possible - that Saddam could have created a bomb, and he could have become friendly with al Qaeda, and he could have decided to part with the WMD's he had spent decades building by giving them to someone over whom he had no control, and who could have very well used them against Saddam himself - even if you assume that all of that is true, you still have to recognize one simple, incontrovertible fact:

We create thousands upon thousands of more terrorists and extremists by invading Iraq than we ever killed there. The US invading Iraq was the greatest recruiting commercial for terrorists in the world since the Russians invaded Afghanistan.


Wrong logic. Yes we do create potential discontent among the population and some might take up weapons among them. But not on the scale it is claimed (naturally) and noone would be foolish enough to attack us ever again, given the repercussions. Think about it, do you really think Greenpeace would ever touch another Russian arctic platform?
 
2013-10-30 05:07:40 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [25.media.tumblr.com image 493x447]
"Thanks, Dick"

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"Thanks, Dick"

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"Mrhhrks, Drrk"


You know, a thought just occurred to me. We have a volunteer army (that means we employ mercenaries, strictly speaking). If they did not want to serve there are two possible options:
1. Don't sign up
2. If you signed up -- refuse to go. OC might be against the law and you might spend time in military prison and dishonorably discharged but at least your honorand your healthwould both be saved.
 
2013-10-30 05:16:56 PM  

sage254: You know, a thought just occurred to me. We have a volunteer army (that means we employ mercenaries, strictly speaking). If they did not want to serve there are two possible options:
1. Don't sign up
2. If you signed up -- refuse to go. OC might be against the law and you might spend time in military prison and dishonorably discharged but at least your honorand your healthwould both be saved.


i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-10-30 05:57:28 PM  

TopoGigo: Mikey1969: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Mikey1969: None, people have just heard that she's supposed to be a bad candidate, I have yet to hear an explanation to the "I'm a lefty but I hate Hillary" thing.

I'll answer that.

I am a lifelong Democrat and I oppose Hillary running in 2016. When John McCain rain in 2004, one of the reasons I opposed him was that I considered him to be too old to endure the stresses of the office. Hillary Clinton will only be a year or two younger in 2016 than McCain was in 2004. Since I can't justify "it's different because she's a Democrat" I have to oppose her run for that office.

That's the most coherent reason anyone has given, I don' think age is the factor it used to be, but at least you'e not saying something about her looks, which is about as far as most of them get.

Even though physical age isn't my problem with her, I get it. Presidentin' is a taxing job. Just look how it aged Bush Sr., W, and Obama. Interestingly, blowjobs must help, since Bill didn't seem to fare as badly.


Don't forget Carter. He aged visibly almost as much in just those four years as he has in all the time since then.

That said, don't forget that women age better than men do, all else being equal. Longer lifespan and overall better health in the latter stages thereof. So one year younger for Hillary is a bit more than one year health-wise.

That said, genetics counts too, and remember that John McCain's mother Roberta is still alive (she's 101!).

That said, he had already twice been afflicted with melanoma, far and away the deadliest of the skin cancers. My reason for opposing McCain in 2004 was this fact (not so much his age, given his mother) combined with "his" choice for Vice President whom I could not in good conscience allow to get anywhere near the Red Phone / Nuclear Football ― not given her Third Wave of the Holy Spirit aka "Joel's Army" religious beliefs (force the horrific End Times prophecies to come true by any means necessary, to facilitate the Second Coming).

My reason to oppose Hillary is her surname. While not a Clinton by blood, she's still a Clinton, and we shouldn't have dynasties in this country (Adams, Roosevelt, and Bush were more than enough of that). If she won two terms, then seven of nine consecutive terms, for a total of 28 out of 36 years, would have only two surnames (Bush and Clinton).
 
2013-10-30 09:39:13 PM  

ace in your face: I farking hate Dick Cheney so much. Just die already!


I don't want that SOB to die..I want him to suffer for a while first...I want that conniving, immoral,
self serving, shatbag to feel actual pain, like the poor bastards (on both sides) did before they
died.  But I want that cretin, that blood whore, to suffer for a while before we can finally stick
his putrid remains in a hole for the children of those that died or were horribly maimed to come
along and piss all over.. He wanted that war, he wanted it probably more than any one of the psychotic egomaniacs floating around D.C. high on their own farts. That monster wanted to keep that Nixonian psychotic warmongering going. He wanted that blood money flowing and oil prices high.And he got it.
 
2013-10-30 10:25:04 PM  

Wessoman: qorkfiend: Arkanaut: Instead, I hear Richard Perle get interviewed on the anniversary of 9/11 on NPR and tell the interviewer that the biggest lesson of 9/11 was the threat from WMDs.

*quadruple facepalm*

I'm not sure these people were actually around during the past decade. Cryogenics? Time travel? Alternate dimension? It's the only way I can explain the utter ignorance of everything that happened.

Naah, just a lethal dose of that special something that makes Republicans the unique and insufferable assholes that they are--Cognitive Dissonance.




I refuse to give in on this one, descriptivists be damned; it's doublethink dammit! Only people with properly functioning brains suffer cognitive dissonance.
 
2013-10-31 01:52:46 AM  

sage254: Very much worth it. You think you want Chamberlain, who was a pussy, but in reality you need a dick. You need a person like Churchill.
And that's why Dick Cheney is a hero.
Now there is not a single country in the world who would either attack us directly or sponsor some asshole terrorist group to do it for them... Because we are the strongest, and we have the biggest army in the world and we got the drive, resolve and conviction and power to raise the Old Glory across the country when we are attacked and three thousand plus people die and go into the hell-hole ourselves, not just to punish the terrorist squads but to declare onto the entire world:

YOU ASSHOLES! YOU TOOK DOWN TWO OF OUR BUILDINGS? WE WILL TAKE DOWN TWO OF YOUR COUNTRIES! TRY AGAIN, MOTHERFARKERS!

And that's the greatest point we can ever make.


You can join Dick Cheney in Hell.
 
2013-10-31 05:43:14 AM  

Alphax: sage254: Very much worth it. You think you want Chamberlain, who was a pussy, but in reality you need a dick. You need a person like Churchill.
And that's why Dick Cheney is a hero.
Now there is not a single country in the world who would either attack us directly or sponsor some asshole terrorist group to do it for them... Because we are the strongest, and we have the biggest army in the world and we got the drive, resolve and conviction and power to raise the Old Glory across the country when we are attacked and three thousand plus people die and go into the hell-hole ourselves, not just to punish the terrorist squads but to declare onto the entire world:

YOU ASSHOLES! YOU TOOK DOWN TWO OF OUR BUILDINGS? WE WILL TAKE DOWN TWO OF YOUR COUNTRIES! TRY AGAIN, MOTHERFARKERS!

And that's the greatest point we can ever make.

You can join Dick Cheney in Hell.


He's like the baby Free Republic and Youtube comments would have together.  It's almost adorable.
 
2013-10-31 05:54:24 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: He's like the baby Free Republic and Youtube comments would have together.  It's almost adorable.


A baby named Damion?
 
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