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(BBC)   In 1996, a teenage black girl saved the life of a fat white redneck from a mob trying to kill his Nazi ass   (bbc.co.uk ) divider line
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2013-10-29 01:47:55 PM  
15 votes:
Can't get a better use of that tag than that.
2013-10-29 04:53:17 PM  
6 votes:

Sin_City_Superhero: ongbok: Sin_City_Superhero: "She put herself at physical risk to protect someone who, in my opinion, would not have done the same for her," he says. "Who does that in this world?"


That's one hell of an assumption you've got there. You have no idea how this man would've reacted, had the roles been reversed. For all you know, he might've done the exact same thing. That said, it was nice of her to save Andy Ried, like that.  Chief's fans everywhere would like to thank you...

For some reason I don't think a person who thinks Black people should be property and aren't equal to him would risk his own safety to save a black woman that was being beaten by a mob of people that thought like him. Call me crazy, but I don't think it would happen

sweetmelissa31: Considering he was at a rally to demonstrate his hate for blacks, Jews, etc. and he never even thanked her for saving him, the assumption seems to be a good one. If he can't say thank you, what makes you think he'd go into harm's way to help her?

Well, she was at a rally to protest against what this guy stood for, and she did the right thing any way. It is possible that, given a reversal of roles, he would've done the same thing.


She was there to protest against hate and intolerance, he was there to promote hate and intolerance. For some reason I think a person who is standing up against hate and intolerance would be more incline to stop someone, even a person they disliked, from getting beaten than a person who's belief system revolves around believing that certain people are less than him and should be killed because of it.
2013-10-29 04:20:42 PM  
5 votes:

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Why don't these rednecks racists ever fly the REAL Confederate flag?


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2013-10-29 04:18:30 PM  
4 votes:
news.bbcimg.co.uk

The truth behind what caused Chris Farley's death.

Kid Shelleen: macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?

Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps he was repentant and wanted to stand with the protestors as an act of bravery against "his kind."  I'd truly like to know more about him.  He was, after all, apparently standing peacefully with the protestors, not marching with the bad guys.


He was being a troll and got his ass kicked by a bunch of people who were tired of these racist assholes. In the 90's the Klan was known for holding rallies in cities where they knew they wouldn't be accepted and sending one of their more ignorant members out into the crowd to get a violent reaction from the crowd. They did this in several cities in the 90's, and there was even a Nightline segment about one of their rallies were one of their members that was sent out into the crowd to troll got his ass kicked, and after the other Klan members were watching the tape of it high fiveing and congratulating each other that they got the crowd to act violently.
2013-10-29 03:57:07 PM  
4 votes:
Amusing.

That whole...

"Let's react to what we think is a Nazi by behaving like a bunch of Nazis"

..thing never gets old.

See, OWS were far from the first group to do that.
2013-10-29 03:53:27 PM  
4 votes:
The Psycology behind the study of crowd mentality would place the mob lynching as a normal reaction, When everyone else does it, is okay.

So, under that pretense, would that mean that this woman was ill-adjusted? Because if that's the case, I want to see more ill-adjusted people.
2013-10-29 03:53:04 PM  
4 votes:
Oblig
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2013-10-29 02:07:04 PM  
4 votes:
And maybe beating someone down in a mob.  That's often kind of shiatty too.
2013-10-29 05:10:55 PM  
3 votes:

ongbok: Kid Shelleen: ongbok:
Kid Shelleen: macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?

Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps he was repentant and wanted to stand with the protestors as an act of bravery against "his kind."  I'd truly like to know more about him.  He was, after all, apparently standing peacefully with the protestors, not marching with the bad guys.

He was being a troll and got his ass kicked by a bunch of people who were tired of these racist assholes. In the 90's the Klan was known for holding rallies in cities where they knew they wouldn't be accepted and sending one of their more ignorant members out into the crowd to get a violent reaction from the crowd. They did this in several cities in the 90's, and there was even a Nightline segment about one of their rallies were one of their members that was sent out into the crowd to troll got his ass kicked, and after the other Klan members were watching the tape of it high fiveing and congratulating each other that they got the crowd to act violently.

OK, I can see that,  I remember Skokie, as well, and that was the '70s.  Still, I'd like to know more about him.  Did this affect his outlook?  Was his assumed racism solidified by the mob attacking him or did he see the light thanks to the nice woman in the article?  Even bigots can be capable of introspection.

If he was dumb enough to go into that crowd wearing that stuff, blatantly throwing racism in their faces knowing he was probably going to take a bad beating, then he wasn't smart enough to change his ways. Think about it, he was the one that was so farking dumb that the rest of the group felt that he could be sacrificed and thought nothing of it. Hell this guy probably would say he was doing his part to get the race war started.


I am thinking about it. I'm just not willing to fully commit to your conclusions. And no, he didn't deserve an ass-whipping. Even if he hurled insults, he didn't do anything to deserve violence levelled against him. That's kind of the point of the article.
2013-10-29 04:27:36 PM  
3 votes:

Sin_City_Superhero: "She put herself at physical risk to protect someone who, in my opinion, would not have done the same for her," he says. "Who does that in this world?"

That's one hell of an assumption you've got there. You have no idea how this man would've reacted, had the roles been reversed. For all you know, he might've done the exact same thing. That said, it was nice of her to save Andy Ried, like that.  Chief's fans everywhere would like to thank you...


Considering he was at a rally to demonstrate his hate for blacks, Jews, etc. and he never even thanked her for saving him, the assumption seems to be a good one. If he can't say thank you, what makes you think he'd go into harm's way to help her?
2013-10-29 04:27:12 PM  
3 votes:

Sin_City_Superhero: "She put herself at physical risk to protect someone who, in my opinion, would not have done the same for her," he says. "Who does that in this world?"


That's one hell of an assumption you've got there. You have no idea how this man would've reacted, had the roles been reversed. For all you know, he might've done the exact same thing. That said, it was nice of her to save Andy Ried, like that.  Chief's fans everywhere would like to thank you...


For some reason I don't think a person who thinks Black people should be property and aren't equal to him would risk his own safety to save a black woman that was being beaten by a mob of people that thought like him. Call me crazy, but I don't think it would happen
2013-10-29 03:54:16 PM  
3 votes:
It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?
2013-10-29 03:52:01 PM  
3 votes:
Well, this is a quicker trip from the front page of Reddit to the front page of Fark than one usually sees.
2013-10-29 03:09:07 PM  
3 votes:
Hero tag well deserved.

/Reminds me NOT to wear a Pride T-shirt at my next KKK rally.
2013-10-29 05:28:55 PM  
2 votes:

SirEattonHogg: She's a better person that me.  I would have popped open a beer and watched the beat down.


Honestly, I can't be sure what I would have done either.  I'd be tempted to call the police, put on "Yakkity Sax" / Benny Hill theme (whatever it's called) and watch things unfold while drinking beer as well.

raanne: I remember this. I was in High School. In Ann Arbor. This was really big news 17 years ago. Why are we talking about it now?


Because this was just published in the BBC and I never heard of it until now?  As the article said, this was just submitted to the BBC as an example of great/unusual acts of kindness.

Sidenote:  Surprising number of people expressing some...  Resentment of this tale of a black person acting as a good human being.  I wonder why that is?
2013-10-29 05:20:00 PM  
2 votes:

IdBeCrazyIf: ongbok: He was being a troll and got his ass kicked by a bunch of people who were tired of these racist assholes. In the 90's the Klan was known for holding rallies in cities where they knew they wouldn't be accepted and sending one of their more ignorant members out into the crowd to get a violent reaction from the crowd. They did this in several cities in the 90's, and there was even a Nightline segment about one of their rallies were one of their members that was sent out into the crowd to troll got his ass kicked, and after the other Klan members were watching the tape of it high fiveing and congratulating each other that they got the crowd to act violently.

Still, in some degree he proved them guilty of the exact same behavior of prejudging other based on their appearance.

He still deserved his ass whipped for being a troll, I'm just saying he got what he wanted


There's a difference between judging somebody by the way they conduct themselves in public, such as wearing a confederate flag and having Nazi tattoos,  and judging someone because of the skin-color that their ancestors passed down.
2013-10-29 04:08:39 PM  
2 votes:

macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?


Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps he was repentant and wanted to stand with the protestors as an act of bravery against "his kind."  I'd truly like to know more about him.  He was, after all, apparently standing peacefully with the protestors, not marching with the bad guys.
2013-10-29 04:05:54 PM  
2 votes:
And to this day, Fatty McGoosestep still has never even so much as said "Thanks".
2013-10-29 04:02:51 PM  
2 votes:
I'd never heard this story before. Thank you subby. That was certainly uplifting.

The hero tag is much deserved. I love what this girl did.
2013-10-29 03:57:33 PM  
2 votes:
Brave woman. I hope I would have the same response. Glad her story has been told.
2013-10-29 03:54:20 PM  
2 votes:

vygramul: Can't get a better use of that tag than that.


This.  She is a far better person than I.
2013-10-29 02:01:28 PM  
2 votes:
Ah, the ol' "You wear your X and I'll wear mine" shirt.  Not much better to identify an incredibly stupid, shiatty person.  Except maybe SS tattoos.
2013-10-29 01:54:32 PM  
2 votes:
l.wigflip.com

/Good story!
2013-10-30 09:26:46 AM  
1 vote:

Clemkadidlefark: vygramul: Clemkadidlefark: 1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)

Yes. People know that. They also know it was conservatives.


I'll go with this one.

Okay, while the Union, under the sway of this new progressive party known as Republicans was killing it's way to the South to free the slaves and end slavery ..

.. the Union was simultaneously eradicating indigenous American populations in the West. Ethnic cleansing on a wholesale level. And as soon the Union's war to end slavery ground down the Union began killing the Native people everywhere they could find them. And if they weren't killed outright, they were forced into squalor that would have made Nazis recoil.

Democrats and slavery
Republicans and ethnic cleansing

What do these have in common?


150 years of additional historical context?
2013-10-29 08:56:03 PM  
1 vote:
And about 5 times in the past month, there have been numerous cases of blacks attacking people, while actually saying things like "we just wanted to kill a cracker," that never make the news, and rarely ever even get greenlighted on Fark.

But Trayvon.
2013-10-29 06:11:58 PM  
1 vote:

Clemkadidlefark: 1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)


Democrats and Republicans swapped hats a long ass time ago, you should really get with the program.  Lincoln would not stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting the republican nomination these days.  Probably not the democratic one either, but that's mostly because he keeps hiding in the bushes every time a plane flies by.
2013-10-29 06:01:33 PM  
1 vote:
Wow.

Awesome article, Subby. Thanks!
2013-10-29 05:52:49 PM  
1 vote:

Clemkadidlefark: 1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)


Yup. And within twenty years, the Republican party turned its back on them, and then in the early to mid-twentieth century, the Democratic party slowly started to embrace the growing civil rights movement. Disgusted racist southern Democrats left the party, formed the Dixiecrat party, failed miserably, and then the Republicans came up with The Southern Strategy. And here we are.
2013-10-29 05:44:25 PM  
1 vote:
IdBeCrazyIf: Still, in some degree he proved them guilty of the exact same behavior of prejudging other based on their appearance.

I call bullshiat. The aspects of his appearance by which he was being judged were entirely under his control. Equating judging someone negatively because of the color of their skin with judging someone negatively because they have actively chosen to project an image with negative connotations is just plain stupid.
2013-10-29 04:46:17 PM  
1 vote:
In 1996

It's not news, it's Fark.combecause it happened nearly 20 years ago.
2013-10-29 04:43:28 PM  
1 vote:
pute kisses like a man:
and then there's the ku klux klan... in addition to racism, they probably want some degree of socialism, or at least, some strong protectionist economic strategies, because they're predominately poor white people that don't like competition, and would rather have high tariffs so they don't have to compete with the rest of the world..

From anything I've been able to gather, which is limited, the hard core racist/nationalist pretty much think that the only reasons they're not succeeding is because the (people they don't like) are preventing them with one unfair tactic or another, and if they would just get out of the way of hard working (whatever thing they are) folk, everything would be fine. So really not Socialism.
2013-10-29 04:31:15 PM  
1 vote:

Sin_City_Superhero: Am I the only one that thinks something looks a little "off", in this picture? It looks like it's staged, or something. It looks like the redneck guy is trying to look like he's running, but the people behind him don't look like they're chasing someone. Maybe it's just me, but it looks odd, for some reason.


Fat people are like tractors, they take time to build up the needed torque before getting into gear
2013-10-29 04:29:34 PM  
1 vote:
img.fark.net

Am I the only one that thinks something looks a little "off", in this picture? It looks like it's staged, or something. It looks like the redneck guy is trying to look like he's running, but the people behind him don't look like they're chasing someone. Maybe it's just me, but it looks odd, for some reason.
2013-10-29 04:23:08 PM  
1 vote:

mutterfark: Because some stories of courage and decency are inspiring enough to be re-told?


I don't disagree. I just literally meant what was the reason for retelling this specific story? I remember it well, it got a lot of press. I was just wondering if there was something related that caused it to pop back up. No arguments that its a great story worth retelling from me though.
2013-10-29 04:19:44 PM  
1 vote:

raanne: I remember this. I was in High School. In Ann Arbor. This was really big news 17 years ago. Why are we talking about it now?


Because some stories of courage and decency are inspiring enough to be re-told?


FTA:But Thomas, now in her 30s and living in Houston, Texas, does not. She prefers to concentrate on what more she can do in future, rather than what she has achieved in the past.
"I don't want to think that this is the best I could ever be. In life you are always striving to do better."


And maybe because it looks like she continues to humbly be a good person.

/thanks subby
2013-10-29 04:11:50 PM  
1 vote:

Old_Chief_Scott: In 1996, a fat teenage black girl saved the life of a fat white redneck from a fat mob trying to kill his fat  Nazi ass

fixed


Rule 348 invoked.

Original poster must now post pic of self for evaluation by community.
2013-10-29 04:09:08 PM  
1 vote:
I've never heard this story, very glad that I have now.  Hopefully there's more like her out there.
2013-10-29 04:07:24 PM  
1 vote:
I would have beat him myself. If you're dumb enough to willingly walk into enemy territory, you have to accept the consequences.
2013-10-29 04:01:15 PM  
1 vote:

boog: FTA: "Liberal, progressive and multicultural, Ann Arbor was an unusual place for the KKK to choose..."

Later: "There were shouts of 'Kill the Nazi' and the man began to run - but he was knocked to the ground. A group surrounded him, kicking him and hitting him with the wooden sticks of their placards."


Again, mob mentality. You can be the most enlightened person ever, but a lot of times, when the majority reacts violently, you might, too.
2013-10-29 03:59:58 PM  
1 vote:

rudemix: Is there any back story on the fatcist? Did his life change at all? Did he become a better person in any way, shape or form?


Well further down in the story it says that months later his son thanked her for saving his dad.
2013-10-29 03:57:41 PM  
1 vote:
As I understand it, later on, she was approached by someone in a diner who thanked her for saving their father.
2013-10-29 03:56:48 PM  
1 vote:
FTA: "Liberal, progressive and multicultural, Ann Arbor was an unusual place for the KKK to choose..."

Later: "There were shouts of 'Kill the Nazi' and the man began to run - but he was knocked to the ground. A group surrounded him, kicking him and hitting him with the wooden sticks of their placards."
2013-10-29 03:56:27 PM  
1 vote:
Ah, I remember that.  The ones who got arrested for assault had some interesting "supporters," who posted placards all over town saying "No free speech for fascists!" (anyone to the right of Castro in their thinking).  (Their signs always included a demand of 40 hours pay for 30 hours work in the fine print, no matter what the subject du jour was.)

It was a confluence of jerks all the way around.
2013-10-29 03:52:58 PM  
1 vote:
Is there any back story on the fatcist? Did his life change at all? Did he become a better person in any way, shape or form?
 
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