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(BBC)   In 1996, a teenage black girl saved the life of a fat white redneck from a mob trying to kill his Nazi ass   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 135
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2013-10-29 01:47:55 PM
Can't get a better use of that tag than that.
 
2013-10-29 01:54:32 PM
l.wigflip.com

/Good story!
 
2013-10-29 02:01:28 PM
Ah, the ol' "You wear your X and I'll wear mine" shirt.  Not much better to identify an incredibly stupid, shiatty person.  Except maybe SS tattoos.
 
2013-10-29 02:07:04 PM
And maybe beating someone down in a mob.  That's often kind of shiatty too.
 
2013-10-29 02:17:53 PM
Wait, is that Andy Reid?
 
2013-10-29 03:09:07 PM
Hero tag well deserved.

/Reminds me NOT to wear a Pride T-shirt at my next KKK rally.
 
2013-10-29 03:37:30 PM

Relatively Obscure: And maybe beating someone down in a mob.  That's often kind of shiatty too.


Yeah, but on the other hand, he's a Nazi.
 
2013-10-29 03:46:02 PM

ggowins: Wait, is that Andy Reid?


Why else do you think he drafted Donovan McNabb?
 
2013-10-29 03:51:26 PM
She's a better person that me.  I would have popped open a beer and watched the beat down.
 
2013-10-29 03:52:01 PM
Well, this is a quicker trip from the front page of Reddit to the front page of Fark than one usually sees.
 
2013-10-29 03:52:17 PM
img2-2.timeinc.net
 
2013-10-29 03:52:58 PM
Is there any back story on the fatcist? Did his life change at all? Did he become a better person in any way, shape or form?
 
2013-10-29 03:53:04 PM
Oblig
i165.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-29 03:53:27 PM
The Psycology behind the study of crowd mentality would place the mob lynching as a normal reaction, When everyone else does it, is okay.

So, under that pretense, would that mean that this woman was ill-adjusted? Because if that's the case, I want to see more ill-adjusted people.
 
2013-10-29 03:54:16 PM
It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?
 
2013-10-29 03:54:17 PM
I'm waiting to hear how this will somehow be spun to make her the bad guy. Don't let me down Fark.
 
2013-10-29 03:54:20 PM

vygramul: Can't get a better use of that tag than that.


This.  She is a far better person than I.
 
2013-10-29 03:56:27 PM
Ah, I remember that.  The ones who got arrested for assault had some interesting "supporters," who posted placards all over town saying "No free speech for fascists!" (anyone to the right of Castro in their thinking).  (Their signs always included a demand of 40 hours pay for 30 hours work in the fine print, no matter what the subject du jour was.)

It was a confluence of jerks all the way around.
 
2013-10-29 03:56:48 PM
FTA: "Liberal, progressive and multicultural, Ann Arbor was an unusual place for the KKK to choose..."

Later: "There were shouts of 'Kill the Nazi' and the man began to run - but he was knocked to the ground. A group surrounded him, kicking him and hitting him with the wooden sticks of their placards."
 
2013-10-29 03:57:07 PM
Amusing.

That whole...

"Let's react to what we think is a Nazi by behaving like a bunch of Nazis"

..thing never gets old.

See, OWS were far from the first group to do that.
 
2013-10-29 03:57:33 PM
Brave woman. I hope I would have the same response. Glad her story has been told.
 
2013-10-29 03:57:41 PM
As I understand it, later on, she was approached by someone in a diner who thanked her for saving their father.
 
2013-10-29 03:58:35 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Ah, I remember that.  The ones who got arrested for assault had some interesting "supporters," who posted placards all over town saying "No free speech for fascists!" (anyone to the right of Castro in their thinking).  (Their signs always included a demand of 40 hours pay for 30 hours work in the fine print, no matter what the subject du jour was.)

It was a confluence of jerks all the way around.


Though I should say that this young lady's impulse to protect a guy--despite his being a jerk--is good.

Dang, I'm glad those annual "events" are over.  These nimrods would show up from way out of town once a year and it was nothing but trouble.
 
2013-10-29 03:58:57 PM

ggowins: Wait, is that Andy Reid?


That's Bill Swerski!

zembla.cementhorizon.com
 
2013-10-29 03:59:58 PM

rudemix: Is there any back story on the fatcist? Did his life change at all? Did he become a better person in any way, shape or form?


Well further down in the story it says that months later his son thanked her for saving his dad.
 
2013-10-29 04:00:07 PM

I Browse: I'm waiting to hear how this will somehow be spun to make her the bad guy. Don't let me down Fark.


Umm... Sorry, I'm out of snark.
 
2013-10-29 04:00:22 PM
In 1996, a fat teenage black girl saved the life of a fat white redneck from a fat mob trying to kill his fat  Nazi ass

fixed
 
2013-10-29 04:00:24 PM

hardinparamedic: Relatively Obscure: And maybe beating someone down in a mob.  That's often kind of shiatty too.

Yeah, but on the other hand, he's a Nazi.


Well, he's not EXACTLY a Nazi.  But he is an apparent shiathead, so I *get* it, yeah.  Still not necessarily what one SHOULD do, though, to beat him senseless.  But yes, all signs point to this dude being a world class piece of crap.
 
2013-10-29 04:01:15 PM

boog: FTA: "Liberal, progressive and multicultural, Ann Arbor was an unusual place for the KKK to choose..."

Later: "There were shouts of 'Kill the Nazi' and the man began to run - but he was knocked to the ground. A group surrounded him, kicking him and hitting him with the wooden sticks of their placards."


Again, mob mentality. You can be the most enlightened person ever, but a lot of times, when the majority reacts violently, you might, too.
 
2013-10-29 04:01:34 PM
weaponsman.com
 
2013-10-29 04:02:18 PM
Great find, though my misreading of this bit made me chuckle:

"That some in Ann Arbor have been heard grumbling that she should have left the man to his fate, only speaks of how far they have drifted from their own humanity. And of the crying need to get it back.
Keshia's choice was to affirm what they have lost.
Keshia's choice was human.
Keshia's choice was hope."

By Pulitzer Prize-winning commentator Leonard Pitts Jr. The Miami Herald, 29 June 1996

They're giving Pultizers to internet comments now?  I need to step up my game.
 
2013-10-29 04:02:51 PM
I'd never heard this story before. Thank you subby. That was certainly uplifting.

The hero tag is much deserved. I love what this girl did.
 
2013-10-29 04:05:24 PM
and that's the story of Pocohantas and John Smith!
 
2013-10-29 04:05:54 PM
And to this day, Fatty McGoosestep still has never even so much as said "Thanks".
 
2013-10-29 04:07:02 PM

number8: Well, this is a quicker trip from the front page of Reddit to the front page of Fark than one usually sees.


Be sure to keep track of that for us, will you?
 
2013-10-29 04:07:24 PM
I would have beat him myself. If you're dumb enough to willingly walk into enemy territory, you have to accept the consequences.
 
2013-10-29 04:08:39 PM

macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?


Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps he was repentant and wanted to stand with the protestors as an act of bravery against "his kind."  I'd truly like to know more about him.  He was, after all, apparently standing peacefully with the protestors, not marching with the bad guys.
 
2013-10-29 04:08:59 PM

macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?


well... they are all different groups/ethos/sentiments.

the confederate flag rages from bring back slavery to redneck dumbassery...  outside of racism, they probably want small government.

the SS thing is a little extreme, and is either nazi nostalgia, or some kind of neo-nazi non-sense.  outside of racism, they probably want fascism.

and then there's the ku klux klan... in addition to racism, they probably want some degree of socialism, or at least, some strong protectionist economic strategies, because they're predominately poor white people that don't like competition, and would rather have high tariffs so they don't have to compete with the rest of the world.

so, outside of the necessary racist component, you have very differing groups here.

/ i don't know much about racist groups, so it's possibly i just made all this up.  but, all for the purpose to say that a careful person would be reluctant to say it was clear... especially a person who could be sued for defamation.
 
2013-10-29 04:09:08 PM
I've never heard this story, very glad that I have now.  Hopefully there's more like her out there.
 
2013-10-29 04:09:53 PM

rudemix: Is there any back story on the fatcist? Did his life change at all? Did he become a better person in any way, shape or form?


He's now a Congressman from Kansas on speed dial from the Koch Brothers.  Look it up.
 
2013-10-29 04:11:00 PM
As much as we want to convince ourselves that we're civilized, with our lattes and Large Hadron Colliders, deep down we're just a bunch of jibbering, shiat-chucking animals who can be goaded into blind rage by lust, anger and other primitive motivators.

WHO WANTS TO fark?
 
2013-10-29 04:11:30 PM
This is also how Obama's parents met.
 
2013-10-29 04:11:50 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: In 1996, a fat teenage black girl saved the life of a fat white redneck from a fat mob trying to kill his fat  Nazi ass

fixed


Rule 348 invoked.

Original poster must now post pic of self for evaluation by community.
 
2013-10-29 04:12:02 PM
I remember this. I was in High School. In Ann Arbor. This was really big news 17 years ago. Why are we talking about it now?
 
2013-10-29 04:13:59 PM

macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?


Woah right there. I was told that flag is NOT about slavery NOR racism.

Nobody can tell me what it means, just "not slavery!!!!" or some generalized word like "heritage."
 
2013-10-29 04:14:59 PM

I Browse: I'm waiting to hear how this will somehow be spun to make her the bad guy. Don't let me down Fark.


Yeah, me too. Extra points if someone can bring Obama into it.
 
2013-10-29 04:18:26 PM

rugman11: Great find, though my misreading of this bit made me chuckle:

"That some in Ann Arbor have been heard grumbling that she should have left the man to his fate, only speaks of how far they have drifted from their own humanity. And of the crying need to get it back.
Keshia's choice was to affirm what they have lost.
Keshia's choice was human.
Keshia's choice was hope."
By Pulitzer Prize-winning commentator Leonard Pitts Jr. The Miami Herald, 29 June 1996

They're giving Pultizers to internet comments now?  I need to step up my game.


1996, dude. 1996.
 
2013-10-29 04:18:30 PM
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The truth behind what caused Chris Farley's death.

Kid Shelleen: macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?

Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps he was repentant and wanted to stand with the protestors as an act of bravery against "his kind."  I'd truly like to know more about him.  He was, after all, apparently standing peacefully with the protestors, not marching with the bad guys.


He was being a troll and got his ass kicked by a bunch of people who were tired of these racist assholes. In the 90's the Klan was known for holding rallies in cities where they knew they wouldn't be accepted and sending one of their more ignorant members out into the crowd to get a violent reaction from the crowd. They did this in several cities in the 90's, and there was even a Nightline segment about one of their rallies were one of their members that was sent out into the crowd to troll got his ass kicked, and after the other Klan members were watching the tape of it high fiveing and congratulating each other that they got the crowd to act violently.
 
2013-10-29 04:19:02 PM
Thomas has never heard from the man she saved

Ugh. Asshole doesn't even have the nerve to thank her.
 
2013-10-29 04:19:28 PM
Why don't these rednecks racists ever fly the REAL Confederate flag?
 
2013-10-29 04:19:44 PM

raanne: I remember this. I was in High School. In Ann Arbor. This was really big news 17 years ago. Why are we talking about it now?


Because some stories of courage and decency are inspiring enough to be re-told?


FTA:But Thomas, now in her 30s and living in Houston, Texas, does not. She prefers to concentrate on what more she can do in future, rather than what she has achieved in the past.
"I don't want to think that this is the best I could ever be. In life you are always striving to do better."


And maybe because it looks like she continues to humbly be a good person.

/thanks subby
 
2013-10-29 04:20:42 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Why don't these rednecks racists ever fly the REAL Confederate flag?


www.telecoms.com
 
2013-10-29 04:23:00 PM
Ain't that America. . .
 
2013-10-29 04:23:04 PM

Kid Shelleen: Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps he was repentant and wanted to stand with the protestors as an act of bravery against "his kind." I'd truly like to know more about him. He was, after all, apparently standing peacefully with the protestors, not marching with the bad guys.


Maybe, but that would at least still leave him a complete moron. You'd think somebody "repentant" would be smart enough to not only cover the tattoo, but to also not intentionally wear a t-shirt with such negative racial connotations to a rally full of racists.

I mean, what, it was laundry day and the guy just didn't have any other shirts?
 
2013-10-29 04:23:08 PM

mutterfark: Because some stories of courage and decency are inspiring enough to be re-told?


I don't disagree. I just literally meant what was the reason for retelling this specific story? I remember it well, it got a lot of press. I was just wondering if there was something related that caused it to pop back up. No arguments that its a great story worth retelling from me though.
 
2013-10-29 04:24:34 PM
"She put herself at physical risk to protect someone who, in my opinion, would not have done the same for her," he says. "Who does that in this world?"


That's one hell of an assumption you've got there. You have no idea how this man would've reacted, had the roles been reversed. For all you know, he might've done the exact same thing. That said, it was nice of her to save Andy Ried, like that.  Chief's fans everywhere would like to thank you...
 
2013-10-29 04:25:14 PM
ongbok:
Kid Shelleen: macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?

Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps he was repentant and wanted to stand with the protestors as an act of bravery against "his kind."  I'd truly like to know more about him.  He was, after all, apparently standing peacefully with the protestors, not marching with the bad guys.

He was being a troll and got his ass kicked by a bunch of people who were tired of these racist assholes. In the 90's the Klan was known for holding rallies in cities where they knew they wouldn't be accepted and sending one of their more ignorant members out into the crowd to get a violent reaction from the crowd. They did this in several cities in the 90's, and there was even a Nightline segment about one of their rallies were one of their members that was sent out into the crowd to troll got his ass kicked, and after the other Klan members were watching the tape of it high fiveing and congratulating each other that they got the crowd to act violently.


OK, I can see that,  I remember Skokie, as well, and that was the '70s.  Still, I'd like to know more about him.  Did this affect his outlook?  Was his assumed racism solidified by the mob attacking him or did he see the light thanks to the nice woman in the article?  Even bigots can be capable of introspection.
 
2013-10-29 04:27:12 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: "She put herself at physical risk to protect someone who, in my opinion, would not have done the same for her," he says. "Who does that in this world?"


That's one hell of an assumption you've got there. You have no idea how this man would've reacted, had the roles been reversed. For all you know, he might've done the exact same thing. That said, it was nice of her to save Andy Ried, like that.  Chief's fans everywhere would like to thank you...


For some reason I don't think a person who thinks Black people should be property and aren't equal to him would risk his own safety to save a black woman that was being beaten by a mob of people that thought like him. Call me crazy, but I don't think it would happen
 
2013-10-29 04:27:36 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: "She put herself at physical risk to protect someone who, in my opinion, would not have done the same for her," he says. "Who does that in this world?"

That's one hell of an assumption you've got there. You have no idea how this man would've reacted, had the roles been reversed. For all you know, he might've done the exact same thing. That said, it was nice of her to save Andy Ried, like that.  Chief's fans everywhere would like to thank you...


Considering he was at a rally to demonstrate his hate for blacks, Jews, etc. and he never even thanked her for saving him, the assumption seems to be a good one. If he can't say thank you, what makes you think he'd go into harm's way to help her?
 
2013-10-29 04:28:50 PM

ongbok: He was being a troll and got his ass kicked by a bunch of people who were tired of these racist assholes. In the 90's the Klan was known for holding rallies in cities where they knew they wouldn't be accepted and sending one of their more ignorant members out into the crowd to get a violent reaction from the crowd. They did this in several cities in the 90's, and there was even a Nightline segment about one of their rallies were one of their members that was sent out into the crowd to troll got his ass kicked, and after the other Klan members were watching the tape of it high fiveing and congratulating each other that they got the crowd to act violently.


Still, in some degree he proved them guilty of the exact same behavior of prejudging other based on their appearance.

He still deserved his ass whipped for being a troll, I'm just saying he got what he wanted
 
2013-10-29 04:28:58 PM

raanne: mutterfark: Because some stories of courage and decency are inspiring enough to be re-told?

I don't disagree. I just literally meant what was the reason for retelling this specific story? I remember it well, it got a lot of press. I was just wondering if there was something related that caused it to pop back up. No arguments that its a great story worth retelling from me though.


Dunno.  It was in the BBC Features and Analysis section on my phone, which is usually where all the stories I want to read end up.   Maybe the person who kept the picture for 17 years contacted the BBC, maybe someone stumbled across the photo and decided to do a what happened after story, (shrug).

But I live here now, and I didn't in 96, and it was a great story to read.  Something to keep in mind if I ever get put into a situation like that.  I'd hope I wouldn't go with Angry Mob.
 
2013-10-29 04:29:34 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks something looks a little "off", in this picture? It looks like it's staged, or something. It looks like the redneck guy is trying to look like he's running, but the people behind him don't look like they're chasing someone. Maybe it's just me, but it looks odd, for some reason.
 
2013-10-29 04:29:55 PM

skozlaw: Kid Shelleen: Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps he was repentant and wanted to stand with the protestors as an act of bravery against "his kind." I'd truly like to know more about him. He was, after all, apparently standing peacefully with the protestors, not marching with the bad guys.

Maybe, but that would at least still leave him a complete moron. You'd think somebody "repentant" would be smart enough to not only cover the tattoo, but to also not intentionally wear a t-shirt with such negative racial connotations to a rally full of racists.

I mean, what, it was laundry day and the guy just didn't have any other shirts?


Well, the point is, I don't know.  I'm not trying to be obtuse - he probably at least was a racist and Nazi, but people are complicated.  And I'm curious.
 
2013-10-29 04:30:35 PM
And really we do still live in a world where there is rampant racism and judgement all the way around our culture. Why hell even at places like Hooters they still make the black waitresses wear the same stockings, and I realize this is bad but some part of my inner self likes that because when they bring me food it takes me back to owning land and people.
 
2013-10-29 04:31:12 PM

Kid Shelleen: ongbok:
Kid Shelleen: macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?

Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps he was repentant and wanted to stand with the protestors as an act of bravery against "his kind."  I'd truly like to know more about him.  He was, after all, apparently standing peacefully with the protestors, not marching with the bad guys.

He was being a troll and got his ass kicked by a bunch of people who were tired of these racist assholes. In the 90's the Klan was known for holding rallies in cities where they knew they wouldn't be accepted and sending one of their more ignorant members out into the crowd to get a violent reaction from the crowd. They did this in several cities in the 90's, and there was even a Nightline segment about one of their rallies were one of their members that was sent out into the crowd to troll got his ass kicked, and after the other Klan members were watching the tape of it high fiveing and congratulating each other that they got the crowd to act violently.

OK, I can see that,  I remember Skokie, as well, and that was the '70s.  Still, I'd like to know more about him.  Did this affect his outlook?  Was his assumed racism solidified by the mob attacking him or did he see the light thanks to the nice woman in the article?  Even bigots can be capable of introspection.


If he was dumb enough to go into that crowd wearing that stuff, blatantly throwing racism in their faces knowing he was probably going to take a bad beating, then he wasn't smart enough to change his ways. Think about it, he was the one that was so farking dumb that the rest of the group felt that he could be sacrificed and thought nothing of it. Hell this guy probably would say he was doing his part to get the race war started.
 
2013-10-29 04:31:15 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: Am I the only one that thinks something looks a little "off", in this picture? It looks like it's staged, or something. It looks like the redneck guy is trying to look like he's running, but the people behind him don't look like they're chasing someone. Maybe it's just me, but it looks odd, for some reason.


Fat people are like tractors, they take time to build up the needed torque before getting into gear
 
2013-10-29 04:37:59 PM

ongbok: Sin_City_Superhero: "She put herself at physical risk to protect someone who, in my opinion, would not have done the same for her," he says. "Who does that in this world?"


That's one hell of an assumption you've got there. You have no idea how this man would've reacted, had the roles been reversed. For all you know, he might've done the exact same thing. That said, it was nice of her to save Andy Ried, like that.  Chief's fans everywhere would like to thank you...

For some reason I don't think a person who thinks Black people should be property and aren't equal to him would risk his own safety to save a black woman that was being beaten by a mob of people that thought like him. Call me crazy, but I don't think it would happen


sweetmelissa31: Considering he was at a rally to demonstrate his hate for blacks, Jews, etc. and he never even thanked her for saving him, the assumption seems to be a good one. If he can't say thank you, what makes you think he'd go into harm's way to help her?


Well, she was at a rally to protest against what this guy stood for, and she did the right thing any way. It is possible that, given a reversal of roles, he would've done the same thing.
 
2013-10-29 04:39:17 PM

raanne: mutterfark: Because some stories of courage and decency are inspiring enough to be re-told?

I don't disagree. I just literally meant what was the reason for retelling this specific story? I remember it well, it got a lot of press. I was just wondering if there was something related that caused it to pop back up. No arguments that its a great story worth retelling from me though.


Ah, I should have just said I hadn't heard the story before without the "snark". Oh well, that's one of the reasons why I like Fark so much, old news for some is still news for others. Cheers! :)
 
2013-10-29 04:43:28 PM
pute kisses like a man:
and then there's the ku klux klan... in addition to racism, they probably want some degree of socialism, or at least, some strong protectionist economic strategies, because they're predominately poor white people that don't like competition, and would rather have high tariffs so they don't have to compete with the rest of the world..

From anything I've been able to gather, which is limited, the hard core racist/nationalist pretty much think that the only reasons they're not succeeding is because the (people they don't like) are preventing them with one unfair tactic or another, and if they would just get out of the way of hard working (whatever thing they are) folk, everything would be fine. So really not Socialism.
 
2013-10-29 04:43:38 PM
maybe its hard to run after all the goosestepping
 
2013-10-29 04:46:17 PM
In 1996

It's not news, it's Fark.combecause it happened nearly 20 years ago.
 
Bf+
2013-10-29 04:46:52 PM

vygramul: Can't get a better use of that tag than that.


I'd have to disagree.
Perfectly appropriate tag for this story, don't get me wrong, but "can't get better"?
I mean, what if the guy, I dunno, wasn't a Nazi... you know?
 
2013-10-29 04:48:13 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: raanne: mutterfark: Because some stories of courage and decency are inspiring enough to be re-told?

I don't disagree. I just literally meant what was the reason for retelling this specific story? I remember it well, it got a lot of press. I was just wondering if there was something related that caused it to pop back up. No arguments that its a great story worth retelling from me though.

Dunno.  It was in the BBC Features and Analysis section on my phone, which is usually where all the stories I want to read end up.   Maybe the person who kept the picture for 17 years contacted the BBC, maybe someone stumbled across the photo and decided to do a what happened after story, (shrug).

But I live here now, and I didn't in 96, and it was a great story to read.  Something to keep in mind if I ever get put into a situation like that.  I'd hope I wouldn't go with Angry Mob.


That.
FTA: Teri Gunderson, who now lives in Oaxaca, Mexico, emailed BBC News Magazine about her respect for Keshia Thomas when we published a series about kindness earlier this month
 
2013-10-29 04:48:51 PM

CygnusDarius: The Psycology behind the study of crowd mentality would place the mob lynching as a normal reaction, When everyone else does it, is okay.

So, under that pretense, would that mean that this woman was ill-adjusted? Because if that's the case, I want to see more ill-adjusted people.


She isn't a sheople.
 
2013-10-29 04:49:28 PM

kg2095: She isn't a sheople.


So why when we shave her does she turn pink?
 
2013-10-29 04:50:24 PM

sweetmelissa31: Thomas has never heard from the man she saved

Ugh. Asshole doesn't even have the nerve to thank her.


No, but his son did, and that goes to prove that even an asshole can have a decent kid...
 
2013-10-29 04:53:17 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: ongbok: Sin_City_Superhero: "She put herself at physical risk to protect someone who, in my opinion, would not have done the same for her," he says. "Who does that in this world?"


That's one hell of an assumption you've got there. You have no idea how this man would've reacted, had the roles been reversed. For all you know, he might've done the exact same thing. That said, it was nice of her to save Andy Ried, like that.  Chief's fans everywhere would like to thank you...

For some reason I don't think a person who thinks Black people should be property and aren't equal to him would risk his own safety to save a black woman that was being beaten by a mob of people that thought like him. Call me crazy, but I don't think it would happen

sweetmelissa31: Considering he was at a rally to demonstrate his hate for blacks, Jews, etc. and he never even thanked her for saving him, the assumption seems to be a good one. If he can't say thank you, what makes you think he'd go into harm's way to help her?

Well, she was at a rally to protest against what this guy stood for, and she did the right thing any way. It is possible that, given a reversal of roles, he would've done the same thing.


She was there to protest against hate and intolerance, he was there to promote hate and intolerance. For some reason I think a person who is standing up against hate and intolerance would be more incline to stop someone, even a person they disliked, from getting beaten than a person who's belief system revolves around believing that certain people are less than him and should be killed because of it.
 
2013-10-29 04:59:50 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: [img.fark.net image 464x464]

Am I the only one that thinks something looks a little "off", in this picture? It looks like it's staged, or something. It looks like the redneck guy is trying to look like he's running, but the people behind him don't look like they're chasing someone. Maybe it's just me, but it looks odd, for some reason.


Looks to me like he's sort of fast walking, hopping into the start of a jog, while they're shooing him off and some are getting excited.

I suspect he hurls back in insult sometime after this and the mob kicks into gear.
 
2013-10-29 05:09:02 PM
img.fark.net

clarksvillewtf.com

/shenanigans.
 
2013-10-29 05:10:55 PM

ongbok: Kid Shelleen: ongbok:
Kid Shelleen: macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?

Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps he was repentant and wanted to stand with the protestors as an act of bravery against "his kind."  I'd truly like to know more about him.  He was, after all, apparently standing peacefully with the protestors, not marching with the bad guys.

He was being a troll and got his ass kicked by a bunch of people who were tired of these racist assholes. In the 90's the Klan was known for holding rallies in cities where they knew they wouldn't be accepted and sending one of their more ignorant members out into the crowd to get a violent reaction from the crowd. They did this in several cities in the 90's, and there was even a Nightline segment about one of their rallies were one of their members that was sent out into the crowd to troll got his ass kicked, and after the other Klan members were watching the tape of it high fiveing and congratulating each other that they got the crowd to act violently.

OK, I can see that,  I remember Skokie, as well, and that was the '70s.  Still, I'd like to know more about him.  Did this affect his outlook?  Was his assumed racism solidified by the mob attacking him or did he see the light thanks to the nice woman in the article?  Even bigots can be capable of introspection.

If he was dumb enough to go into that crowd wearing that stuff, blatantly throwing racism in their faces knowing he was probably going to take a bad beating, then he wasn't smart enough to change his ways. Think about it, he was the one that was so farking dumb that the rest of the group felt that he could be sacrificed and thought nothing of it. Hell this guy probably would say he was doing his part to get the race war started.


I am thinking about it. I'm just not willing to fully commit to your conclusions. And no, he didn't deserve an ass-whipping. Even if he hurled insults, he didn't do anything to deserve violence levelled against him. That's kind of the point of the article.
 
2013-10-29 05:14:44 PM

sweetmelissa31: Thomas has never heard from the man she saved

Ugh. Asshole doesn't even have the nerve to thank her.


Dude probably shot himself later that night due to his white power failing him.

/out farking standing on the girl's part
//I hope I can be that brave when the time comes
///likely, I'd have just sat back, watched the ass kicking, and then acted appropriately horrified later
 
2013-10-29 05:16:30 PM
Keshia Thomas was 18 when the Ku Klux Klan,

Wait, which one are they?

the white supremacist organisation, held a rally in her home town in Michigan.

Oh, that one. Okay, I got it. Proceed.
 
2013-10-29 05:20:00 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: ongbok: He was being a troll and got his ass kicked by a bunch of people who were tired of these racist assholes. In the 90's the Klan was known for holding rallies in cities where they knew they wouldn't be accepted and sending one of their more ignorant members out into the crowd to get a violent reaction from the crowd. They did this in several cities in the 90's, and there was even a Nightline segment about one of their rallies were one of their members that was sent out into the crowd to troll got his ass kicked, and after the other Klan members were watching the tape of it high fiveing and congratulating each other that they got the crowd to act violently.

Still, in some degree he proved them guilty of the exact same behavior of prejudging other based on their appearance.

He still deserved his ass whipped for being a troll, I'm just saying he got what he wanted


There's a difference between judging somebody by the way they conduct themselves in public, such as wearing a confederate flag and having Nazi tattoos,  and judging someone because of the skin-color that their ancestors passed down.
 
2013-10-29 05:28:55 PM

SirEattonHogg: She's a better person that me.  I would have popped open a beer and watched the beat down.


Honestly, I can't be sure what I would have done either.  I'd be tempted to call the police, put on "Yakkity Sax" / Benny Hill theme (whatever it's called) and watch things unfold while drinking beer as well.

raanne: I remember this. I was in High School. In Ann Arbor. This was really big news 17 years ago. Why are we talking about it now?


Because this was just published in the BBC and I never heard of it until now?  As the article said, this was just submitted to the BBC as an example of great/unusual acts of kindness.

Sidenote:  Surprising number of people expressing some...  Resentment of this tale of a black person acting as a good human being.  I wonder why that is?
 
2013-10-29 05:33:11 PM

ongbok: Sin_City_Superhero: ongbok: Sin_City_Superhero: "She put herself at physical risk to protect someone who, in my opinion, would not have done the same for her," he says. "Who does that in this world?"


That's one hell of an assumption you've got there. You have no idea how this man would've reacted, had the roles been reversed. For all you know, he might've done the exact same thing. That said, it was nice of her to save Andy Ried, like that.  Chief's fans everywhere would like to thank you...

For some reason I don't think a person who thinks Black people should be property and aren't equal to him would risk his own safety to save a black woman that was being beaten by a mob of people that thought like him. Call me crazy, but I don't think it would happen

sweetmelissa31: Considering he was at a rally to demonstrate his hate for blacks, Jews, etc. and he never even thanked her for saving him, the assumption seems to be a good one. If he can't say thank you, what makes you think he'd go into harm's way to help her?

Well, she was at a rally to protest against what this guy stood for, and she did the right thing any way. It is possible that, given a reversal of roles, he would've done the same thing.

She was there to protest against hate and intolerance, he was there to promote hate and intolerance. For some reason I think a person who is standing up against hate and intolerance would be more incline to stop someone, even a person they disliked, from getting beaten than a person who's belief system revolves around believing that certain people are less than him and should be killed because of it.


That's probably one of the best and most wholehearted statements I have ever heard from anyone in the last 30 years or so.

/stop it
//this is Fark.
 
2013-10-29 05:33:43 PM

macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?


Maybe he was undercover?
 
2013-10-29 05:38:24 PM

kerrigand: a person who's belief system revolves around believing that certain people are less than him and should be killed because of it.


Not arguing with anything you've said. I just wanted to pull out this quote to point out that it could be used to describe a lot of religious people (from various religions, no less).
 
2013-10-29 05:40:59 PM

ongbok: Sin_City_Superhero: ongbok: Sin_City_Superhero: "She put herself at physical risk to protect someone who, in my opinion, would not have done the same for her," he says. "Who does that in this world?"


That's one hell of an assumption you've got there. You have no idea how this man would've reacted, had the roles been reversed. For all you know, he might've done the exact same thing. That said, it was nice of her to save Andy Ried, like that.  Chief's fans everywhere would like to thank you...

For some reason I don't think a person who thinks Black people should be property and aren't equal to him would risk his own safety to save a black woman that was being beaten by a mob of people that thought like him. Call me crazy, but I don't think it would happen

sweetmelissa31: Considering he was at a rally to demonstrate his hate for blacks, Jews, etc. and he never even thanked her for saving him, the assumption seems to be a good one. If he can't say thank you, what makes you think he'd go into harm's way to help her?

Well, she was at a rally to protest against what this guy stood for, and she did the right thing any way. It is possible that, given a reversal of roles, he would've done the same thing.

She was there to protest against hate and intolerance, he was there to promote hate and intolerance. For some reason I think a person who is standing up against hate and intolerance would be more incline to stop someone, even a person they disliked, from getting beaten than a person who's belief system revolves around believing that certain people are less than him and should be killed because of it.


And with that, I would say, you really know how to bring a thread to a halt.

/Done in this one
//Can't argue with that
//if you do, well, there's a tag waiting for you
 
2013-10-29 05:44:25 PM
IdBeCrazyIf: Still, in some degree he proved them guilty of the exact same behavior of prejudging other based on their appearance.

I call bullshiat. The aspects of his appearance by which he was being judged were entirely under his control. Equating judging someone negatively because of the color of their skin with judging someone negatively because they have actively chosen to project an image with negative connotations is just plain stupid.
 
2013-10-29 05:46:09 PM
1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)
 
2013-10-29 05:52:39 PM

Clemkadidlefark: 1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)


Yes. People know that. They also know it was conservatives.
 
2013-10-29 05:52:49 PM

Clemkadidlefark: 1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)


Yup. And within twenty years, the Republican party turned its back on them, and then in the early to mid-twentieth century, the Democratic party slowly started to embrace the growing civil rights movement. Disgusted racist southern Democrats left the party, formed the Dixiecrat party, failed miserably, and then the Republicans came up with The Southern Strategy. And here we are.
 
2013-10-29 05:54:56 PM
What bravery. Oh no, what's this? It seems to be getting a bit dusty in here...
 
2013-10-29 05:54:58 PM

scottydoesntknow: /Good story!


Well your meme is really confusing since the lynch mob behind him were the only racists that day.
 
2013-10-29 05:56:14 PM
Teri Gunderson, who was bringing up her two adopted mixed-race daughters in Iowa at the time,

The true hero of the story.
Seriously though, why does she get paragraphs in this story? Thomas is the hero, not this random broad.
 
2013-10-29 06:01:33 PM
Wow.

Awesome article, Subby. Thanks!
 
2013-10-29 06:03:52 PM

I Browse: I'm waiting to hear how this will somehow be spun to make her the bad guy. Don't let me down Fark.



Well, I was thinking she was a hero like everyone else, but then I found out he was from Illinois.
 
2013-10-29 06:04:15 PM

strathmeyer: scottydoesntknow: /Good story!

Well your meme is really confusing since the lynch mob behind him were the only racists that day.


So what race were they discriminating against? Stupid asshole isn't a race.
 
2013-10-29 06:05:14 PM

h0tsauce: Clemkadidlefark: 1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)

Yup. And within twenty years, the Republican party turned its back on them, and then in the early to mid-twentieth century, the Democratic party slowly started to embrace the growing civil rights movement. Disgusted racist southern Democrats left the party, formed the Dixiecrat party, failed miserably, and then the Republicans came up with The Southern Strategy. And here we are.


No and in the same way that you backassdwards your earlier statement.

h0tsauce: IdBeCrazyIf: Still, in some degree he proved them guilty of the exact same behavior of prejudging other based on their appearance.

I call bullshiat. The aspects of his appearance by which he was being judged were entirely under his control. Equating judging someone negatively because of the color of their skin with judging someone negatively because they have actively chosen to project an image with negative connotations is just plain stupid.



 I'll give you time to rethink those. They just don't mesh for some reason......
 
2013-10-29 06:06:36 PM

strathmeyer: scottydoesntknow: /Good story!

Well your meme is really confusing since the lynch mob behind him were the only racists that day.


The predominately white crowd behind him?
 
2013-10-29 06:11:58 PM

Clemkadidlefark: 1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)


Democrats and Republicans swapped hats a long ass time ago, you should really get with the program.  Lincoln would not stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting the republican nomination these days.  Probably not the democratic one either, but that's mostly because he keeps hiding in the bushes every time a plane flies by.
 
2013-10-29 06:13:50 PM

MagSeven: strathmeyer: scottydoesntknow: /Good story!

Well your meme is really confusing since the lynch mob behind him were the only racists that day.

The predominately white crowd behind him?


Liberal White Guilt racists. The worst racist ever!
 
2013-10-29 06:37:57 PM

Rezurok: Clemkadidlefark: 1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)

Democrats and Republicans swapped hats a long ass time ago, you should really get with the program.  Lincoln would not stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting the republican nomination these days.  Probably not the democratic one either, but that's mostly because he keeps hiding in the bushes every time a plane flies by.


"AUGHHH!  IRON BIRD!!"
/thanks, D. Letterman
 
2013-10-29 06:41:39 PM

ongbok: MagSeven: strathmeyer: scottydoesntknow: /Good story!

Well your meme is really confusing since the lynch mob behind him were the only racists that day.

The predominately white crowd behind him?

Liberal White Guilt racists. The worst racist ever!


Your trolling now. That's unbecoming.
 
2013-10-29 06:42:16 PM
My forebears have been called rednecks since the 1640's. To the best of my knowledge, none have ever owned another man. Much too downtrodden for that. As a matter of fact, they're Melungeons, one of the first tri-racial isolate groups in this great big melting pot. They married outside their race.
Why is this guy automatically a redneck? It's Ann Arbor, not Ypsitucky. He could just as easily be a fat polack.
 
2013-10-29 06:57:42 PM
Thomas has never heard from the man she saved, but she did once meet a member of his family. Months later, someone came up to her in a coffee shop and said thanks. "What for?" she asked. "That was my dad," the young man replied.

Well, maybe her bravery couldn't convince the racist victim to change his ways, but it sounds like she changed his son.
 
2013-10-29 07:02:59 PM

vygramul: Clemkadidlefark: 1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)

Yes. People know that. They also know it was conservatives.



I'll go with this one.

Okay, while the Union, under the sway of this new progressive party known as Republicans was killing it's way to the South to free the slaves and end slavery ..

.. the Union was simultaneously eradicating indigenous American populations in the West. Ethnic cleansing on a wholesale level. And as soon the Union's war to end slavery ground down the Union began killing the Native people everywhere they could find them. And if they weren't killed outright, they were forced into squalor that would have made Nazis recoil.

Democrats and slavery
Republicans and ethnic cleansing

What do these have in common?
 
2013-10-29 07:03:07 PM
Liberal, progressive and multicultural


Perpetuate the myth. *closes article*

Also, why is it so goddamn hard to type in non italics after using them?
 
2013-10-29 07:15:15 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-29 07:21:47 PM

boyvoyeur: Keshia Thomas was 18 when the Ku Klux Klan,

Wait, which one are they?

the white supremacist organisation, held a rally in her home town in Michigan.

Oh, that one. Okay, I got it. Proceed.


Keep in mind, this was written by a British news organization on a British news web site.
 
2013-10-29 07:24:21 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Why don't these rednecks racists ever fly the REAL Confederate flag?


Hey now, don't conflate us honest rednecks with racists. Rednecks are not all racists, or even poor or uneducated. Bigot.
 
2013-10-29 07:29:23 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: kerrigand: a person who's belief system revolves around believing that certain people are less than him and should be killed because of it.

Not arguing with anything you've said. I just wanted to pull out this quote to point out that it could be used to describe a lot of religious people (from various religions, no less).


Or half of fark's politics tab, a fair number of people in fat bashing threads, and just about every damn person on fark that uses redneck as a derogatory term.
 
2013-10-29 07:32:07 PM

wellreadneck: My forebears have been called rednecks since the 1640's. To the best of my knowledge, none have ever owned another man. Much too downtrodden for that. As a matter of fact, they're Melungeons, one of the first tri-racial isolate groups in this great big melting pot. They married outside their race.
Why is this guy automatically a redneck? It's Ann Arbor, not Ypsitucky. He could just as easily be a fat polack.


You, I like you.
 
2013-10-29 07:34:12 PM
Weird to see black and white photos of this still. Dwyer blew his brains back in 1987 and that caused the AP to always use color.
 
2013-10-29 07:50:51 PM

mutterfark: raanne: mutterfark: Because some stories of courage and decency are inspiring enough to be re-told?

I don't disagree. I just literally meant what was the reason for retelling this specific story? I remember it well, it got a lot of press. I was just wondering if there was something related that caused it to pop back up. No arguments that its a great story worth retelling from me though.

Ah, I should have just said I hadn't heard the story before without the "snark". Oh well, that's one of the reasons why I like Fark so much, old news for some is still news for others. Cheers! :)


No problems. I realized how it sounded after I sent it.
 
2013-10-29 08:10:07 PM

hugram: Oblig
[i165.photobucket.com image 639x385]


http://www.snopes.com/photos/medical/klaner.asp
 
2013-10-29 08:14:00 PM

SirEattonHogg: She's a better person that me.  I would have popped open a beer and watched the beat down.


hardinparamedic: Yeah, but on the other hand, he's a Nazi.


rudemix: Is there any back story on the fatcist? Did his life change at all? Did he become a better person in any way, shape or form?


Relatively Obscure: Well, he's not EXACTLY a Nazi. But he is an apparent shiathead, so I *get* it, yeah. Still not necessarily what one SHOULD do, though, to beat him senseless. But yes, all signs point to this dude being a world class piece of crap.


How Liberal, progressive and multicultural of you fine folk.

Please, do go on with your normal comments on Teabaggers.
 
2013-10-29 08:17:15 PM
As the venom took hold and the feeling in her limbs faded, she managed to look back at him.
"Why did you do that?" she asked.  "Now we'll both die."
"Look, biatch," he replied, "you knew I was a scorpion."
 
2013-10-29 08:23:41 PM

Clemkadidlefark: 1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)


You do know that sniffing spray paint is bad for you, right?
 
2013-10-29 08:50:46 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: And really we do still live in a world where there is rampant racism and judgement all the way around our culture. Why hell even at places like Hooters they still make the black waitresses wear the same stockings, and I realize this is bad but some part of my inner self likes that because when they bring me food it takes me back to owning land and people.


So... Exactly how old are you? Owning people hasn't been a thing since 1863 (or 1865, technically).
 
2013-10-29 08:56:03 PM
And about 5 times in the past month, there have been numerous cases of blacks attacking people, while actually saying things like "we just wanted to kill a cracker," that never make the news, and rarely ever even get greenlighted on Fark.

But Trayvon.
 
2013-10-29 09:03:33 PM

topcon: And about 5 times in the past month, there have been numerous cases of blacks attacking people, while actually saying things like "we just wanted to kill a cracker," that never make the news, and rarely ever even get greenlighted on Fark.

But Trayvon.


Lighten up, Francis.
i18.photobucket.com
You'll get over it.
 
2013-10-29 09:11:25 PM

jso2897: topcon: And about 5 times in the past month, there have been numerous cases of blacks attacking people, while actually saying things like "we just wanted to kill a cracker," that never make the news, and rarely ever even get greenlighted on Fark.

But Trayvon.

Lighten up, Francis.

You'll get over it.


That bastard, it was share size.
 
2013-10-29 09:19:40 PM

jso2897: topcon: And about 5 times in the past month, there have been numerous cases of blacks attacking people, while actually saying things like "we just wanted to kill a cracker," that never make the news, and rarely ever even get greenlighted on Fark.

But Trayvon.

Lighten up, Francis.
[i18.photobucket.com image 620x465]
You'll get over it.


Is there a specific name for purple drank made with cost-cutter candy?
 
2013-10-29 10:49:37 PM
Combustion:
Nobody can tell me what it means, just "not slavery!!!!" or some generalized word like "heritage."

Come on, man. It means heritage. And tradition. It means a traditional heritage -- of racism and slavery.

I was surprised to learn recently that the Confederacy had several flags, and that one wasn't one of them. Also that one of the Confederacy's flags is called the "stars and bars", and that flag doesn't look anything like the one we're talking about here.

The flag that that fatcist is wearing was the flag of some Confederate military units. It was pretty obscure until the mid-twentieth century civil rights era, when white Southern, uh . . . what's the term? Cracker-ass bigots? Let's just say folks who opposed the civil rights movement. Anyway, those folks dug up that flag and started adding it to state flags. Next thing you know, it's on The Dukes of Hazzard. And in The Onion.
 
2013-10-29 11:38:11 PM
Staged, duh
 
2013-10-29 11:43:32 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: [img.fark.net image 464x464]

Am I the only one that thinks something looks a little "off", in this picture? It looks like it's staged, or something. It looks like the redneck guy is trying to look like he's running, but the people behind him don't look like they're chasing someone. Maybe it's just me, but it looks odd, for some reason.


none of them really look like running is their thing.
 
2013-10-30 12:26:38 AM

Kid Shelleen: macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?

Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps he was repentant and wanted to stand with the protestors as an act of bravery against "his kind."  I'd truly like to know more about him.  He was, after all, apparently standing peacefully with the protestors, not marching with the bad guys.


Yes, and very cleverly wore a Confederate shirt and boldly bared his Nazi tattoo for all to show he was a remorseful man. Clever man that guy.
 
2013-10-30 12:44:50 AM
How mighty white of her...
 
2013-10-30 01:04:46 AM

macadamnut: It was unclear whether the man was a Ku Klux Klan supporter, but to the anti-KKK protesters, his clothes and tattoos represented exactly what they had come to resist. The Confederate flag he wore was for them a symbol of hatred and racism, while the SS tattoo on his arm pointed to a belief in white supremacy, or worse.

What was unclear about it?



Well, it looks like there's some statement containing 'you wear' on the top of the shirt, it could possibly have been meant ironically(though unlikely).  The SS could have been the result of drunk friends or even something else entirely(though again, unlikely).  Sufficient doubt that a lynch mob isn't a good idea.  Not that it's a good idea in the case anyways - we want the moral high ground; don't give the racists any points they can harp on.

IdBeCrazyIf: Fat people are like tractors, they take time to build up the needed torque before getting into gear


That and it takes mobs a bit of time to work their nerve up(it has to be done collectively; nobody wants to be <i>first</i>) to really attack.

That and, well, running was maybe a mistake - triggers chase instincts.
 
2013-10-30 09:26:46 AM

Clemkadidlefark: vygramul: Clemkadidlefark: 1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)

Yes. People know that. They also know it was conservatives.


I'll go with this one.

Okay, while the Union, under the sway of this new progressive party known as Republicans was killing it's way to the South to free the slaves and end slavery ..

.. the Union was simultaneously eradicating indigenous American populations in the West. Ethnic cleansing on a wholesale level. And as soon the Union's war to end slavery ground down the Union began killing the Native people everywhere they could find them. And if they weren't killed outright, they were forced into squalor that would have made Nazis recoil.

Democrats and slavery
Republicans and ethnic cleansing

What do these have in common?


150 years of additional historical context?
 
2013-10-30 10:13:57 AM
Not sure what benefit to mankind was served by alllowing a piece of shiat neo-nazi klansman to remain breathing.
 
2013-10-30 10:16:09 AM

Clemkadidlefark: 1. You do know the Klan was started by, funded by and approved by the Democrat Party. You do know that, right?
2. You do know the Klan - meaning the Democrat Party - lynched hundreds of blacks following the Civil War. Right?
3. You do remember that it was the Republican Party that, essentially, won the war to end slavery and free blacks to become Citizens?

(wait for it. you know it's coming in the comments)


So I and apparently a number of other people totally missed what you did there with that parenthetical expression.
 
2013-10-30 10:21:51 AM

kregh99: Not sure what benefit to mankind was served by alllowing a piece of shiat neo-nazi klansman to remain breathing.


Think about it this way; one more solid Republican voter was saved that day.
 
2013-10-30 10:30:40 AM
One man's heroic tag is another man's dumbass tag.
 
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