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(The Raw Story)   Republicans are going to thank 900,000 U.S. veterans for their service by kicking them off food stamps on Friday   (rawstory.com) divider line 242
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2013-10-29 03:34:55 PM
We support our troops!*

*Offer not valid in contiguous 48 states, Alaska, Hawaii, or anywhere else because fark you, that's why!
 
2013-10-29 03:44:34 PM
"Cutting assistance to veterans is completely unacceptable," said Rep. Duckworth. "Congress needs to find ways to cut costs, but compromising our care to veterans is not one of them. We must honor those who served our country and continue to provide the benefits they need. I am hopeful that my colleagues can come together and right this wrong by reinstating funds to the SNAP program to help our veterans."

But it would have been ok if it was just normal people right?  God I hate the "I'm a veteran line".  Can't wait till I can run that line, well I can now but I don't think you should be able to claim veteran unless you actually retire from service.
 
2013-10-29 03:46:48 PM

TNel: "Cutting assistance to veterans is completely unacceptable," said Rep. Duckworth. "Congress needs to find ways to cut costs, but compromising our care to veterans is not one of them. We must honor those who served our country and continue to provide the benefits they need. I am hopeful that my colleagues can come together and right this wrong by reinstating funds to the SNAP program to help our veterans."

But it would have been ok if it was just normal people right?  God I hate the "I'm a veteran line".  Can't wait till I can run that line, well I can now but I don't think you should be able to claim veteran unless you actually retire from service.


How about if you've gotten a CIB or CAB?
 
2013-10-29 03:47:41 PM
"Cutting assistance to veterans is completely unacceptable," said Rep. Duckworth

... and all other poor people can eat cake?
 
2013-10-29 03:49:27 PM
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2013-10-29 03:55:10 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: [pbs.twimg.com image 451x427]


I am continually blown away by the number of people who come into Food Share who receive 14-16 dollars a MONTH on SNAP. I gotta believe it costs that much just for the overhead of generating the check.
 
2013-10-29 03:56:12 PM

mediablitz: Dusk-You-n-Me: [pbs.twimg.com image 451x427]

I am continually blown away by the number of people who come into Food Share who receive 14-16 dollars a MONTH on SNAP. I gotta believe it costs that much just for the overhead of generating the check.


You'd be surprised how much Ramen you can buy for that, and most states have it on a Card now, so it doesn't really cost anything.
 
2013-10-29 03:57:51 PM

Marcus Aurelius: "Cutting assistance to veterans is completely unacceptable," said Rep. Duckworth

... and all other poor people can eat cake?


Well, I would think that a higher debt of gratitude is owed a former member of the armed services than someone who has just successfully continued breathing for a few decades.

Don't you?
 
2013-10-29 03:58:17 PM

RedPhoenix122: How about if you've gotten a CIB or CAB?


I'm fine with CIB and CAB, I don't think someone that serves for 4 years AD or 6 years National Guard should be able to say they are a vet.  I think vets should be combat people and retired military if you are not either then you once served but not a vet.
 
2013-10-29 04:00:26 PM

TNel: RedPhoenix122: How about if you've gotten a CIB or CAB?

I'm fine with CIB and CAB, I don't think someone that serves for 4 years AD or 6 years National Guard should be able to say they are a vet.  I think vets should be combat people and retired military if you are not either then you once served but not a vet.


6 Years in the guard and you still can't claim being a vet.  At least not officially.
 
2013-10-29 04:02:33 PM
SNAP eligibility is limited to households with gross income of no more than 130% of the federal poverty guideline, but the majority of households have income well below the maximum: 83% of SNAP households have gross income at or below 100% of the poverty guideline ($19,530 for a family of 3 in 2013), and these households receive about 91% of all benefits. 61% of SNAP households have gross income at or below 75% of the poverty guideline ($14,648 for a family of 3 in 2013).

Not the place to look for money to save.
 
2013-10-29 04:02:35 PM

RedPhoenix122: 6 Years in the guard and you still can't claim being a vet. At least not officially.


Have someone I know that served 6 years full time but for some reason or another couldn't legally call himself a vet. I think he explained why, but I was too busy drinking to pay much attention
 
2013-10-29 04:02:57 PM

TNel: RedPhoenix122: How about if you've gotten a CIB or CAB?

I'm fine with CIB and CAB, I don't think someone that serves for 4 years AD or 6 years National Guard should be able to say they are a vet.  I think vets should be combat people and retired military if you are not either then you once served but not a vet.


Which is why I always refer to myself, if someone asks, as "prior service Air Force." I didn't serve in theater and didn't do 20. I'm not a veteran.
 
2013-10-29 04:04:30 PM
Soltz questioned why Republicans in Congress are so "hell-bent" on hurting people in need.

It's part of their ongoing narrative, duh. They wouldn't be in need if there were no social safety net. They could just stand on street corners with signs like every other hard working Republican.
 
2013-10-29 04:05:01 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: RedPhoenix122: 6 Years in the guard and you still can't claim being a vet. At least not officially.

Have someone I know that served 6 years full time but for some reason or another couldn't legally call himself a vet. I think he explained why, but I was too busy drinking to pay much attention


Not eligible for V.A. benefits or G.I. bill pretty much means you're not a veteran.
 
2013-10-29 04:07:50 PM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Which is why I always refer to myself, if someone asks, as "prior service Air Force." I didn't serve in theater and didn't do 20. I'm not a veteran.


Active duty? I was AD AF for 6 years and consider myself a veteran. I don't believe calling yourself a veteran relies on you retiring after 20.
 
2013-10-29 04:10:46 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Which is why I always refer to myself, if someone asks, as "prior service Air Force." I didn't serve in theater and didn't do 20. I'm not a veteran.

Active duty? I was AD AF for 6 years and consider myself a veteran. I don't believe calling yourself a veteran relies on you retiring after 20.


I was AD. But a single enlistment (because I couldn't crosstrain to another job that I really wanted, so I got out to go into private sector) does not a vet make, especially if they have not served in theater.

If I served in theater and perhaps had an element of danger with my job, I might consider it. But I was stuck in Texas and Idaho for my 4.
 
2013-10-29 04:12:57 PM

RedPhoenix122: The Stealth Hippopotamus: RedPhoenix122: 6 Years in the guard and you still can't claim being a vet. At least not officially.

Have someone I know that served 6 years full time but for some reason or another couldn't legally call himself a vet. I think he explained why, but I was too busy drinking to pay much attention

Not eligible for V.A. benefits or G.I. bill pretty much means you're not a veteran.


Most likely got the ol' Big Chicken Dinner*.

*Bad Conduct Discharge
 
2013-10-29 04:13:00 PM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Which is why I always refer to myself, if someone asks, as "prior service Air Force." I didn't serve in theater and didn't do 20. I'm not a veteran.

Active duty? I was AD AF for 6 years and consider myself a veteran. I don't believe calling yourself a veteran relies on you retiring after 20.

I was AD. But a single enlistment (because I couldn't crosstrain to another job that I really wanted, so I got out to go into private sector) does not a vet make, especially if they have not served in theater.

If I served in theater and perhaps had an element of danger with my job, I might consider it. But I was stuck in Texas and Idaho for my 4.


I did 6 years in the Guard, but in an infantry unit, deployed to Iraq in 2009, and have my C.I.B.  I think I've earned it.
 
2013-10-29 04:14:34 PM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: But a single enlistment (because I couldn't crosstrain to another job that I really wanted, so I got out to go into private sector) does not a vet make, especially if they have not served in theater.


I have never heard this from anyone but you. If you served and were honorably discharged you are a veteran. IMO in theater has nothing to do with it. I was never in danger or shot at, but that was part of the point of joining the AF. I got the education benefits, and still check the box for veteran when it shows up on applications.
 
2013-10-29 04:15:02 PM
Just like they don't care about babies after they are born, Republicans don't care about vets after their service is over.

/BSABSVR
 
2013-10-29 04:15:35 PM
Republican values:

Rep. Stephen Fincher (R-TN)  has receive $3.5 million in farm subsidies

thinkprogress.org

...he thinks it's outrageous for poor families to get $120/mo. for food.
 
2013-10-29 04:19:25 PM
I'll take my seven years in the Navy and the Veterans' day discounts that come with it, thank you very much.

Of course, I went places and did things.  If I flew a desk or got to drive home every night for those years I might think differently.  The military, large though it may seem, is a very small chunk of society and actually volunteering to serve is an abnormal level of commitment to the country.  It isn't the only way, of course, but it isn't at all odd that our country wants to take care of veterans.
 
2013-10-29 04:19:33 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Which is why I always refer to myself, if someone asks, as "prior service Air Force." I didn't serve in theater and didn't do 20. I'm not a veteran.

Active duty? I was AD AF for 6 years and consider myself a veteran. I don't believe calling yourself a veteran relies on you retiring after 20.


There are various veteran statuses.  I served 8 years in weapons maintenance, used almost all of my GI Bill, participated in combat operations from the safety of a stateside base, qualify for VA loans, etc....but I still don't refer to myself as a veteran - no way.  On paper I'm a non-combat veteran.

Now, as far as the chAir Force goes, I am a veteran of the Great Pinochle Battle of '97......(the Flight Chief won...but I performed admirably).
 
2013-10-29 04:22:31 PM

UberDave: On paper I'm a non-combat veteran.


If this is an option on whatever form/app/paper I'm looking at I check it. Sometimes there's not that fine of a resolution to it. If the question is veteran yes or no, I'm checking veteran.
 
2013-10-29 04:27:59 PM
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2013-10-29 04:38:31 PM
4 years on submarines should count as 8 years service. My 2 years in school before going to my boat should count for 3 months.
 
2013-10-29 04:51:18 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Republican values:

Rep. Stephen Fincher (R-TN)  has receive $3.5 million in farm subsidies

[thinkprogress.org image 300x224]

...he thinks it's outrageous for poor families to get $120/mo. for food.


But, like Marcus Bachmann and his Medicaid funds, it's perfectly fine when THEY do it.

craignelsondidanyonehelpme.jpg
 
2013-10-29 05:14:55 PM
That's going to be an awfully large Thank You card.
 
2013-10-29 05:17:38 PM

Marcus Aurelius: "Cutting assistance to veterans is completely unacceptable," said Rep. Duckworth

... and all other poor people can eat cake?


Cake mix is cheap!

/Foods that keep you alive and healthy are expensive.
//This is a massive coincidence and is in no way a predicted result of skewed agricultural subsidies.
 
2013-10-29 05:21:43 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: UberDave: On paper I'm a non-combat veteran.

If this is an option on whatever form/app/paper I'm looking at I check it. Sometimes there's not that fine of a resolution to it. If the question is veteran yes or no, I'm checking veteran.


I filled out something recently that had like five veteran options and I didn't meet the criteria for a single one - I can't for the life of me remember that it was..(wasn't anything government related).  But I was told, back in the day, if it says "veteran" and doesn't break it down further than that, then you check it.  They basically want to know if you were ever on active duty and the questioning entity needs to know more than that, they will specify.
 
2013-10-29 05:22:56 PM
Trolls absolutely swarmed the ACA threads earlier today. Let's hear what they have to say about this.
 
2013-10-29 05:25:12 PM

TNel: I don't think you should be able to claim veteran unless you actually retire from service.


Really?
I don't think you should claim veteran unless you serve in combat.

I served for 4 years, because I love my country.
Lifers serve for 20+ to get a pension.
 
2013-10-29 05:27:39 PM

Marcus Aurelius: "Cutting assistance to veterans is completely unacceptable," said Rep. Duckworth

... and all other poor people can eat cake?


Sometimes you have to play politics. Particularly when the side opposing food stamps tries to pose as the patriotic and veteran loving side.
 
2013-10-29 05:28:12 PM
Support the troops by making them dependant on goverment? That's exactly the kind of socialism that they fought and died to protect are great country against!
 
2013-10-29 05:28:28 PM
Like unborn fetuses, the shelf life of a veteran/soldier has a window of use. Once past that window they give fark-all about them.
 
2013-10-29 05:29:42 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Marcus Aurelius: "Cutting assistance to veterans is completely unacceptable," said Rep. Duckworth

... and all other poor people can eat cake?

Well, I would think that a higher debt of gratitude is owed a former member of the armed services than someone who has just successfully continued breathing for a few decades.

Don't you?


Unless we're going to go to a "Service guarantees Citizenship, would you like to know more?" system then the financial debt of gratitude should be limited to specifically veterens related items.
 
2013-10-29 05:31:42 PM
Those bastard republicans.

Just cause they have control of the House, Senate and Presidency they think they can control everything!!!  Pffftt!!!  Jerks!!!

/Yeah I know Congress controls the purse strings, blah blah blah
 
2013-10-29 05:33:15 PM
But they just fought so hard to get the WWII memorial reopened! I think they deserve a break.
 
2013-10-29 05:33:57 PM

TNel: "Cutting assistance to veterans is completely unacceptable," said Rep. Duckworth. "Congress needs to find ways to cut costs, but compromising our care to veterans is not one of them. We must honor those who served our country and continue to provide the benefits they need. I am hopeful that my colleagues can come together and right this wrong by reinstating funds to the SNAP program to help our veterans."

But it would have been ok if it was just normal people right?  God I hate the "I'm a veteran line".  Can't wait till I can run that line, well I can now but I don't think you should be able to claim veteran unless you actually retire from service.


Well, active service troops will also be hit by this. Our enlisted men and women do not make a ton of money, and a number of them have spouses and children. Many of those living in the United States receive food stamps and WIC. I cut to food stamps jeopardizes the families of our troops, and people worried about their families do not always concentrate on the job. Way to screw over national security, guys.

/and screw over many other working poor and their kids
 
2013-10-29 05:36:46 PM
From this

wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net

to this

www.halliburtonwatch.org

Give the vets or their survivors a six figure check and one huge apology. And never let it happen again.
 
2013-10-29 05:37:46 PM

Without Fail: TNel: I don't think you should be able to claim veteran unless you actually retire from service.

Really?
I don't think you should claim veteran unless you serve in combat.

I served for 4 years, because I love my country.
Lifers serve for 20+ to get a pension.


NYC agrees with you re: veteran's discount for property taxes. I did 20, no combat, so no discount.

C'est la vie!
 
2013-10-29 05:37:59 PM
Meh, I respect what our armed services have done for the nation.  I also respect what americorps has done for our inner cities and our nation.   Service comes in many forms.   and BOTH of those groups chose to do what they do/did, as we all do.  Read the contract, were you promised that you would be "special" after your service was completed?   No then quit whining about your status as a veteran or not-a-veteran.
 
2013-10-29 05:40:04 PM
the important thing here is that Veterans have 24 hour access to WWII memorials at all times.  making sure they can feed their families is socialisms!  access to memorials in D.C. is a patriotic duty tho.
 
2013-10-29 05:40:45 PM
 You may not have been in danger, you may not have served in a war, but there was no guarantee of that when you signed up, so I think you earned the status.
 
2013-10-29 05:40:56 PM
That's okay, libs are seeing to it that Americans don't have healthcare.

/See the system does work.
 
2013-10-29 05:42:48 PM

rudemix: Like unborn fetuses, the shelf life of a veteran/soldier has a window of use. Once past that window they give fark-all about them.


That is a hell of a way to put but pretty much correct.
 
2013-10-29 05:43:12 PM
What the fark does it matter if they're veterans or not?
Americans don't do this to other Americans.

/Unless the ones doing it have southern accents.
 
2013-10-29 05:43:42 PM

Phony_Soldier: That's okay, libs are seeing to it that Americans don't have healthcare.

/See the system does work.


LOLWUT?

/At least you don't claim to have actually served.
 
2013-10-29 05:45:06 PM

Soup4Bonnie: SNAP eligibility is limited to households with gross income of no more than 130% of the federal poverty guideline, but the majority of households have income well below the maximum: 83% of SNAP households have gross income at or below 100% of the poverty guideline ($19,530 for a family of 3 in 2013), and these households receive about 91% of all benefits. 61% of SNAP households have gross income at or below 75% of the poverty guideline ($14,648 for a family of 3 in 2013).

Not the place to look for money to save.


Why the hell not? Do you have any idea how little those people contribute to political campaigns?
 
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